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Feedback 044 - Barbie and Hot Frankenstein (Patreon)

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We're examining your comments on January's sci-fi shows!

And if you need a revisit, here's our coverage on Wuthering Heights.

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It's a Ghost.

I'm totally of the same mind as you guys regarding Wuthering Heights being a love story. It's not. I remember reading it in 12th grade and being told that it was a great love story and me thinking, "Ugh!" But then almost immediately upon reading it I noticed its weirdness, absolutely loved it, and did not find it to be a love story at all. I read it again when I was in my mid 30s and still loved it, even though I still didn't find it to be a love story at all. I think people who find it a love story are maybe the same people who enjoy romantic comedies or movies that are supposed to be love stories, but I just see them as being about couples with dysfunctional relationships where their highs are high but their lows are low. But unlike a lot of those movies, I don't see where Emily Brontë ever indicated that the book was supposed to be a love story. Instead, it's clear to me that it's a very unique, strange story about cruelty, obsession, and dysfunctional relationships between all the different characters. So when I saw the recent trailer for the movie, which I thought looked stunning, I again thought, "Ugh," when the trailer claimed that it was the greatest love story. I'm hoping that again, I'll check it out and be like, "This is definitely not a love story, and I love it."

The Spider Incident

"I'm so excited...and I'm sure it will disappoint" is actually how I feel about every new Star Trek series or movie. (I say this not as someone who hates Trek, but as someone who loves it very much...and has seen literally every episode and knows that you just can't set your expectations too high!) :P Chris, I disagree that it's an evolutionary screw-up that we bond so strongly with our pets, on multiple levels. 1) Our ability to connect so strongly with others has been incredibly important for our survival as a species, and the strong connections we can form with other animals is a byproduct of this; take away our ability to connect so well with pets, and you impact our ability to connect with each other. 2) Forming strong bonds with pets has been shown to be very valuable for our own mental and physical health. 3) Even if you want to argue these points (and I'm sure there are good arguments to be made against them) not all behaviors must necessarily be explained by natural selection. Some traits or behaviors emerge because they're connected to genes that have more directly affect an individual's ability to reproduce.

Mandy Reznor (She/It)

Following The Spider Incident's post, our highly developed bonding instinct is not a mistake—we are FAR from the only example of interspecies mutualism, just the most versatile. Spiders domesticate frogs to eat vermin which endanger their eggs, ants domesticate aphids to milk them, etc. etc. The only thing that sets us apart is that we aren't instinctively encoded to bond with one, *specific* other species. We want to bond with nearly any damn thing. Couple this with our capacity for abstract, creative thought and you have the foundation of the human experience. Family, friendship, pets, culture, religion, philosophy—so much of it is ultimately born from "I want a good relationship with [blank]" or "What is my relationship to [blank]?" or "Can I *have* a relationship with [blank]?" Souls, spirits, Gods, aliens—hopes and expectations for all ultimately derive from our indefatigable urge to find new things to be friends with. Hell, we even bond with *objects.* And regardless of the rationality of the thing, feeling an emotional bond to an object or a living thing or an ecosystem or a hypothetical future thing we encounter tends to make you more mindful of its wellbeing than indifference would. I say our urge to bond is to our longterm benefit, even if we look at it in a strictly mechanistic, evolutionary way.

Steve the Kreeper

Suggestion for an episode; Winged Death by H. P. Lovecraft and Hazel Heald

It's a Ghost.

Speaking of robots and dogs, the robots in Interstellar actually reminded me a lot of K9 from Doctor Who (except blockier and with fully-human voices). K9 is great and fully devoted to the Doctor, but I'm not sure how he would function on his own for an extended period of time. I think he needs someone to serve and to give him orders from time to time.

Newk

Fun fact time! When August 6th was mentioned it made me think about unveiling the story behind my handle so here it is. I was born on August 9th and I was married on August 6th. The days Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed by little boy and fatman respectively. I have since been divorced and am happily remarried but the monicer has stuck. It's one of those your screen name slowly becomes your real name situations. And I lived happily ever after so far. The end.

Science Doctor, PhD

Oh man, you and me both Chris (r/t Wuthering Heights). We watched "Send Help" in the theaters the other day and they played the Wuthering Heights trailer and it was so over the top leaning into the "romance" angle that I was SURE that it must be a stealth parody or something. Or like a deconstruction of the gothic romance. But, from what I've heard, that is not the case. Probably the most damning criticism I've heard is that the sex scenes are boring. Call-forward to my post for the 9 Lives post, but my poor wife got to hear me go on and on about that, and then when Chris commented on it I had to play it for her so she knew I was not the only person like this (whether or not that's a good thing). Anyway, the important thing is I'm a very good husband who has a very awesome wife. Her having to deal with my frequent, unsolicited thoughts about random fiction is just my cross to bear...

Science Doctor, PhD

Yea. I had never read the book until it came up on this podcast and I, like Chris if I recall, had a really hard time just getting through it because I found all the characters to either be awful, or stupid, or both. Personally I think folks who view it as a love story, largely, have not read the book (or not for a long time) and maybe have just seen the adaptations... But maybe that's just self-preservation on my part. Like, I can see the "extreme highs ans low" being something that, in fiction at least, feels romantic. They have so much passion! Even soething like Twilight, I can sort of get the "Yea, he is possessive, but that's just because he is so in love with me..." angle. I don't agree with those points, I just "get" why some people, in fiction, would feel they are romantic stories. But I mean, Heathcliff hangs somebody's dog... He kidnaps and assaults a woman, forces her to marry him, steals her family's resources, then continues to abuse her... He abuses his son... I honestly don't see where people get "Oh man, so romantic..." from that.

It's a Ghost.

I find passion, especially in stories, can be very romantic as long as the couple also treats each other well. I think what I can get behind or at least respect is, "He's poor or somehow different from me, yet I am I obsessed with him and love him so much that I cannot live without him!!! Also we have our disagreements and arguments at times, but he treats me with respect, loves me, and supports me, and I also love, respect, and support him." Which is to say, I love Wuthering Heights, but again, I don’t see how it's a love story 🙂

The Lonely Sand Person

To be fair, the "blackmail AI" story was so poorly reported on in general news media that I wouldn't blame you for thinking a chatbot figured out how to commit murder.

ChiveOnOCM

I vote for a Collection that includes ever time “meow” is uttered.

margarks

My first real comment after listening for over a decade, but I had to respond to Chris's Wuthering Heights comments because I had the exact same reaction! I saw the trailer and thought, "Greatest love story ever told?!?!" All those people were horrible! None of them knew how to love! I even double checked myself wondering if I was thinking of the wrong Bronte story. I went back to the old episodes , saw that it was Wuthering Heights that you reviewed and was like nope, I was right. Love story my a**.