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Bonus 44 - What We've Learned (Patreon)

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2022-06-30 20:37:14
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2024-09-20 23:43:07
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Join us for a freewheeling chat about the last thirteen years and thoughts on the new / pretty much the same show!

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superkeaton

If our dear author is right and all of human existence is a cosmic joke, then I think that you boys tell it beautifully. You make me laugh, shudder, and sometimes a little tearful. Thank you for all your hard work, and here's to many more episodes to comes!

Resident Stevil

Hey good show, but your most controversial for me at least. I figured there was no way you weren't Rush fans - at least through Hemispheres. And I got to say I'm with historian Robert Caro over you guys: power doesn't corrupt; power reveals. Otherwise, good job. I guess... ;)

Jim Bassett

Great conversation, really looking forward to the "new" show. Many of the stories you've covered I had never heard of, and probably wouldn't have been exposed to otherwise (despite being a sci-fi/fantasy reader). Ramsey Campbell is one example; I have half a dozen of his novels/collections on my stack to read. Also, some of what you talked about toward the end hit home, but also helped. "meandering around through life" particularly, as well as just the idea of not having it figured out (or ever being able to). As I've mentioned before, I'm dealing with a divorce after 28 years and am in my mid-50s. I *thought* I knew who I was, what I was doing, etc. Not everything has changed, but definitely a very big part of my life has, and it's thrown me for the proverbial "loop". But this podcast is just piece of a whole tapestry of support I have - therapist, friends, books/TV shows/movies, a few activities. I'm behind in a lot of my podcast listening (up to 6 months) but I'm current with you guys. Love discovering and reading all the short stories and especially your discussion of them. So, glad you are continuing the podcast, I'm really looking forward to the new direction and new stories. Thanks!

Rob Gillie

I'm really looking forward to the new show and wherever you go next (Peggy March singing "I Will Follow Him" in the background of this comment). I never thought about you guys doing Dune, but I have to say I'm intrigued. Asimov and Clarke will definitely be fun. But! I wanted to tell you that you might want to take a look at this anthology I just finished reading this weekend -- The Future Is Female! edited by Lisa Yaszek, put out by the Library of America, 25 short stories published from 1928 to 1969. Our dear old friend Jirel of Joiry is there in "Black God's Kiss", and there are stories by Joanna Russ and James Tiptree, Jr. and Margaret St. Clair, all of whom you've talked about before. There's a Leigh Brackett story in there that's just so good. Also? Since you've done C.L. Moore and Henry Kuttner, how about a story they wrote together? "Vintage Season" by "Lawrence O'Donnell" -- it's got time tourism, impending doom, screwed-up relationships, the only future art form that's ever felt real to me, sheer pettiness and stupidity -- and it's beautifully written to boot. You might like it. But, seriously, whatever you two end up talking about, I'm there for it. See me shiver with antici … pation.

Mary Kate Jenkins

Oh my god! The “goth kid in the grocery store” is a perfect expression. I’m a knitter and I love knitting these big, dramatic, flowing shawls where the model in the photo is standing on a windswept cliff in Scotland. In reality, I have nowhere to wear these things so whenever I see a beautiful pattern like this and I fall in love with it, I literally think “how dumb will I look wearing this in Jewel?” and that sort of becomes my litmus test for whether or not I should follow through.

Tomas Rawlings

Can't wait for a newer person joining in new Strange Stories thing, saying, "You guys do weird fiction, you should check out this writer, HP Lovecraft, have you heard of him?" Lol

Lord Rancid

Definitely get the Alice Sheldon/James Tiptree Jnr. "Screw-fly Solution" episode back up and maybe pair it with a new episode on one of her other stories? I recommend the "Her Smoke Rose Up Forever" collection... Really excited where the show is going guys... Much as I love Lovecraft, the best thing about your show for me has been that introduction to new(old) authors, genres and narrative vistas. You guys have made me buy so many books over the last couple of years since I found your podcast! Still got plenty of space on my book shelves though, so bring 'em on :)

Jeppe Mulich

A few past episodes that might be good to put up in the new feed (in addition to the Night Wire and Notebook Found in a Deserted House): O Ugly Bird! The Girl With the Hungry Eyes The Screwfly Solution The Street That Wasn't There

Ben Gilbert

Put the episode with Chris singing Wuthering Heights on the new feed. All it lacks is Chris wearing a red dress.

Grahm Eberhardt

If I may suggest an author for the upcoming Strange Stories... Robert Sheckley is one of my favorites who flies under the radar. He wrote a TON of sci-fi short stories through the 60's and 70's, most of which are excellent. They're often funny, approaching a Douglas Adams vibe. Check him out.

Karl Haikara

The Night Ocean and The Hospice I think you should put on the new feed

UltharMeow

In addition to the suggestions above, I think adding your coverage of I Am Legend would be a good inclusion in the new feed. That was an excellent collection of shows.

Josh Culpepper

I just wanted to thank you guys for the last 13 years. I have been listening since the Lovecraft days and it was my love for his stories that brought me to your show. About once a year I will go back and start the feed over from the beginning. Part of that is because I love the stories but more than that I do it because I feel like I am hanging out with my friends. I'm excited to see where you take the show!

Robert Curtin

Ah yes, power corrupts, and All Hail the Omniscient Chris Lackey

Karlandos

Its so weird. Listening to the episode i was contemplating if you guys would ever consider covering Dune and here Chris just comes right out with it. I realize it’s not everyone’s cup of tea and the sequels and prequels illicit their feelings in that regard but for someone like me it’s a story that makes me want to read the book cover to cover and influences my particular tastes and aesthetic in sci-fi. Also, have you guys considered just covering stories straight out of a given edition of weird tales? perhaps as a way to go over the history of when that particular magazine and stories were printed as well as going over some of the lesser known short stories of weird tales.

Tomas Rawlings

Suggested stories for the feed: the multi part Call of Cthulhu because you just have too. Also Dracula with Kenneth Hitte was ace. In terms of stories to take on; are you still only doing dead authors?

Drix

Man, I imagine its gonna be real tough to narrow down some episodes for the new feed to showcase. Just browsing through the comments I've agreed with pretty much every suggestion. That being said I'll still try and kick a few out there. I'm quite partial to Caterpillars by E.F. Benson, and The Upper Berth by F. Marion Crawford(ass handed to them by a ghost!) Also, pretty much any Bierce story would be cool since he's just so great. I feel like you just have to include Lair of the White Worm, for two reasons. One, it showcases how you guys can still carry a show when the story turns out to be a dud, which while infrequent does happen occasionally. Two, the abject defeat and hatred in your voices is fantastic. It's hilarious, and I find myself revisiting that episode more often than I should. Looking forward to the next iteration of the show guys, I'll be here all the way through.

Steve

It's been a sweet ride and we've left West of Arkham where the hills rise wild, and moved onto the freeway and shifted gears. I'm very much looking forward it. If you're taking requests, I'd like to see some J.G. Ballard.

Ryan Thomas

The reading by Heather of Charlotte Perkins Gilman's The Yellow Wallpaper I LOOOOOVED. Please include that. Or not. Either way, I'm sticking with you.

Ryan Thomas

Gentlemen, you have helped lead listeners through a wonderful journey. Your podcast has encountered many forks in the road, whether choosing where to turn after finishing Lovecraft's last tale, or deciding a path after the coverage of authors he referenced petered out. Each time, the long-standing friendship you share, the humor, the caring, the love of Dean (I love Dean!), it makes for fantastic travel companions. Here is another fork. Let's do it.

Харитонский Виталий

Dear Chris and Chad, I have been your devout listener since six or seven years ago. You supported me through fun and tough times. Right now I (along with my country, Ukraine) am going through the toughest times in my life. And once again your humor and cosmic horror supports me. It was nice to hear your retrospective as it also gave me a retrospective on how I grew along with you. 13 more years of Strange Studies of Strange Stories and then 13 again!

Adequately Excellent Entertainment

Oh please, do Roald Dahl! Do it ALL. I read so much of his stuff as a kid. My Mom bought them for me and I was always of the opinion that she had made some kind of mistake because it seemed like I shouldn’t be reading this stuff. I’m pretty sure I suggested Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator to you at some point in the past, which is certifiably BANANAS weird fiction IIRC. Speaking of Rod Sterling and Twilight Zone, did you watch the Jordan Peele Twilight Zone? Doing one or more bonus episodes, comparing the classic and Peele versions of particular episodes might be fun. In particular, Peele’s TZ episode about Standup Comedians starring Kumail Nanjiani hit me super hard for reasons too sad to burden y’all with. So I’m interested in other people’s take on it.

Eric Sroka

I’ve been listening for 9 or 10 years at this point, and I have far too many good memories to narrow down favorites. I’ve also been lucky enough to meet both of you at Necronomicon and I like to think that you’re my kind of people. The whole community as well. Thanks for all the laughs, the inspiration, and yes, being a respite from all the craziness in the real world. I’m ride or die, let’s go another 13 years!

CarcharodonMegs

Hi guys! I wanted to reflect on how much this podcast and means to me. I remember very vividly the story of one of you getting scared by a pigeon and dropping your big gulp and laughing hysterically at that which kept me sane while I was in a toxic relationship. I also freaking loved The Willows episode because of the discourse between you too. So yes, I came for the Lovecraft and lead me to expand into lots of different authors, but your insights/conversations, etc, kept me coming back and I think it's awesome the direction the podcast is going. Love y'all and thank you for existing!

Aaron La Vene

Y’all are just amazing. I hope u know that. Imposter syndrome or not yall really do hit the marks. Even just shooting the shit y’all always feel like people I would love to just drink some beers with. Should make a Patreon level for that lmao. Y’all will always be fun to listen to no matter what y’all decide to cover because it’s y’all. And ur listeners at this point aren’t here for the stories. Even this episode where you are just having a conversation you truly make it feel effortless and that we are in the conversation with you. Albeit weird lurkers at the table who don’t add in any input r whatsoever. But hey we’re there with ya

Aaron La Vene

Also I’m convinced phantasm was supposed to be the prequel to dune. The end game was sending bodies into some desert world (Arakas?) along with all the other references. Less stealthy Hunter seeker, the OG bene gesserit, this was the beginning of their plan…. It’s really quite obvious when you think about it.

Andrew Brown

Team thanks for everything! I believe one of the most important things that artists should do is change. How many artists produce work that people demand and live and that later is clear just isn’t very good. A reminder about why “genre” work is so important. The older I’ve gotten I’ve realized how empty and pointless “literature”. Remember what Tony Hillerman said about “literature”. These obscure works are the ones that have staying power. And need to be discussed and analyzed.

Andrew Brown

Also please reach out to Appendix N podcast, they have been undergoing much the same transformation

Mark Brett

Thanks for over a decade of great listening, gentlemen! Weird fiction is my favorite thing in the world, so I'll miss the tight focus on it. But I like other stuff, too, and you guys have more than earned my trust that you'll continue to find interesting things to talk about. So good luck with the new show! I'll be here to listen.

Mark Brett

In terms of old episodes that might be good to use on the new feed... I know you said you don't want to go into multi-part episodes, but I think having at least one full-length example of it would be good, to show how you tackle that sort of thing. My vote would probably be Dracula. But if you're going to include some of the actual Lovecraft stuff, Call of Cthulhu or Charles Dexter Ward would also be great hooks for new listeners. Otherwise, here's my suggestions: The Hospice Fondly Fahrenheit A Very Old Man With Enormous Wings A Rose for Emily

Robert Reineke

I'll join with everyone else in giving thanks for 13 terrific years. The second phase of the show really opened up some new horizons.

Robert Reineke

For the upcoming phase, I'd recommend The Aleph by Jorge Luis Borges. If nothing else it has plenty of satirical humor about literary pretensions that you should have fun with.

Aidan McSweeney

Hey! Nice episode, I have a recommendation for a short story in the new/ mostly the same show. It’s “Think Like a Dinosaur” by James Patrick Kelly, it’s a teleportation story that deals with a really fascinating moral dilemma, definitely a science fiction story that goes beyond space adventure into the headliner stuff, would love to hear your tales. Thanks!

Jim Cannon

I have tried to read Dune three times and failed each time. I've come to believe there are two kinds of people in the world: Tolkien People and Herbert People, and I am very definitely a Tolkien person. Anecdotal evidence supports my thesis as most of the Dune people I know can't stand Middle-Earth, barring the one "unicorn" I've met. So it would be interesting to listen to you guys tackle it - I might finally get through it, so long as you do the heavy lifting. Similarly, other than <i>The Colour of Magic</i>, I haven't read any Pratchett. He seemed like the fantasy Douglas Adams, and nothing wrong with him, but I guess I didn't get the devoted following that Pratchett has. So I'd be curious to see what you guys cover and how Pratchett shakes out with the patented HPLLPC treatment.

Josh Bell

For old episodes to add to the new feed I’d like to suggest The Yellow Wallpaper. Fantastic story, great reading and pretty strange as well as being an absolute stone cold classic.

Michael Packer

With the new feed, will the old material still be available in some form? Every so often, I'll go back to episode 1 and start through the catalog. You know... for fun!

Pete Williams

As a recent example, I held off on listening to the I Am Legend episodes till I'd read it. I finally sat down on Sunday to read the first section and ended up devouring the whole thing. I don't know if I'd ever have got to it were it not for the show.

G. Monaldo

Nothing gets stranger than.... the Human Chair. Maybe you should put that one back in there. 💺

Eldritch Scerry

No doubt you timed it in part, but it’s crazy that you’re at the end of June, 2022, and you wrapped your coverage of Lovecraft at the end of June, 2012. Looking forward to 3.0 of your show. Personally I love some of the early 2.0 shows as you redefined for the first time: The Upper Berth, The Mark of the Beast, The Spook House, and The Story of the Inexperienced Ghost. Classics.

Jake

The Great Old Ones have evolved into "Strange Studies" podcast!? Has it been more than a decade of such strangeness? My how time flies on the little wings of Cthulhu. Congrats, and thanks for all the strangeness. I'd like to recommend a short story for the podcast. "Divided by Infinity." By Robert Charles Wilson. The author is alive and well, however. Must we wait ghoulishly until they kick the bucket to celebrate their work? If not chosen, I'd certainly recommend this short to the fans here. It shook me up.

Mooncubus

It's such a strange feeling saying goodbye to the HP Lovecraft Literary Podcast. Your show has pretty much been a constant companion throughout my entire adult life. It was one of the first podcasts I ever listened to and opened so many doors for me to other podcasts, so many great stories, and has frequently inspired me to write and create various different things, and just generally has influenced my life quite heavily. I just want to thank you for all these years and am looking forward to what the new show will bring. I love you guys. If you want to add any of the longer stories to the new feed, Candide and the Time Machine are two that come to my mind. You guys tend to reference them a lot, especially the latter, and they fit the more broad theme. Also they're just really great stories/shows.