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Study 010 - One Other (Patreon)

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2022-09-15 21:05:57
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2026-06
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Silver John makes his return in the Manly Wade Wellman story One Other!

Next up: The Bicentennial Man 

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Darth Vegan

Is this story available in any Kindle books?

Nathan Adam

Listening to this episode, it finally occurred to me that Silver John's a Bard in the D&D sense. Now I know what my next character will be... Also, when will Chad's Silver John album drop?

Eldritch Scerry

Was that a B-side from Neil Young that ended the show? Love the folk stuff that comes from North America, no matter the geography. Ya know, Mark Twain cut a chapter from Huck Finn that was a ghost story, and put it into Life on the Mississippi. So it’s his “Dracula’s Guest” and it’s pretty great for the 19th century lore. Check it out.

Adequately Excellent Entertainment

If you like this guy you might also like Mad Amos Malone by Alan Dean Foster. He’s a mountain man and very like John Silver in that he tends to out wit supernatural threats even though he has his own magic. It’s been like 20 years since I read it, but I remember I really enjoyed that book. Even if you don’t enjoy it yourself, you might enjoy how I got my copy of Mad Amos Malone… You see, I was an extra on an episode of the Clueless TV show, parts of which took place at a science-fiction convention. At one point I was in the background doing a bit where I was pretending to shoplift books from a booth selling paperbacks. When I got home I realized there were four books still in my backpack, Mad Amos Malone and the complete “Illuminatus!” trilogy. Again, I’m going to reiterate, this was on a The set of a TV show and not an actual convention. I will accidentally steal paperback books from Paramount Studios and then Not feel bad about it later because they were super cheap on craft services while making fun of a subculture I belong to (a bowl of stale Fun-ions is not better than nothing at all), but not an actual booth at an actual convention. Anyway, if you’re ever watching the Episode “Mercy Date” you will know me by my poorly bleached hair, my “Return to the Forbidden Planet” shirt, and my leather backpack of Ill-gotten gains. Later in the episode, I’m dressed like a pirate, that was the day I was almost run over by a minivan in which 7 of 9 was riding shotgun.

Alan Ricks

Small comment, I don’t think its so much just think Dolly Parton and the Carters, its more think Appalachian Folk like Berzilla Wallin and Doug Wallin. Its a combination of British folk ballads and hymns especially Scottish ones and African folk musics like very early blues. Its essentially the precursor of bluegrass, country music, rock n roll, RnB, etc etc. The Smithsonian Folkways album “Classic Mountain Songs” will give you a good idea of what it sounds like on some of the tracks. Highlights for what I mean are Omie Wise and O Death which will put you right in the mood.

Brittany King

Can we pretty please ::bats eyelashes:: get a Silver John month? Silverjohntember (still workshopping that one...)?

Alec

I wonder if all this talk of soap bubbles expanding and popping is a reference to the Hubble Expansion and the hypothesis that a Great Rip could occur? Not sure if this was published before that stuff was popularized.

Corey Wittig

It was a special treat to hear your kind words, guys. (I really appreciate your work and have been with ya a long time now.) I have literally only ever suggested Manly Wade stories for the show, which is embarrassing, but not too bad since you both like ‘em. John is such a likable character! (Reminds me of Raylon from Justified costarring Patton!) The stories scratch a real competency porn itch for me—John never seems to be on the ropes. Also, there is something comforting about a bunch of stories with such a weird and freaky bunch of creatures but where the hero doesn’t go insane or turn into a frog. I also love the writing. A total change of pace from lots of the genre—slow and lyrical like I imagine john’s gait to be. Remember, old Manly beat Tennessee Williams in a short story contest at one point (find your booze money elsewhere, Tenny!). Thanks again, boyos. Pittsburgh misses you, Chris.

Ben Gilbert

Audible has a multi-volume collection of Wellman’s stories. The volume with all of the Silver John stories is “Owls Hoot in the Daytime”.

Matt Heerdt

I love this series and would really like to see you guys cover The Old Gods Waken - the first Silver John novel. I’m reading it now and you’d love it. There’s one point where they meet a new character and Wellman seems like he’s doing a stereotype but turns it on it’s head. I literally laughed and said “ya got me, Manly, ya got me!”

Ben Gilbert

I think the stories take place mainly in the mountains of western North Carolina.

Runninghead

Possibly not the right thread for this but just wanted to register my vote for "Ghost of a radioactive ware-wolf" merch.

Mounty of Madness

Oh wow, I enjoyed all your Silver John episodes, but never read one myself. It never occurred to me that they are set at that specific time, I always placed them half a century earlier in my mind.

Jeppe Mulich

A new Manly Wade Wellman episode is always a treat. The Silver John stories are great. It's such a neat and unusual flavor of folk horror.

Jerome Arnold

The paranormal investigator reference at the end put me in mind of Blackwood's John Silence. "A Psychical Invasion" and "The Nemesis of Fire" were mentioned long ago when covering the not-so-liked "The Camp of the Dog". Any room for one of those stories in the future?

Tom Král

what's the book Chad talks about that he read?

Ledge

Chad, your musical stylings are magic!

Exanimus

Without feeding AI countless human-created images, would it be able to generate what it does? No! Take that, robots!

Steve

I have no desire to stop Fifer. I want to see how far he goes.

Rick Hound

I also agree that Silver John is my favorite paranormal detective next to the modern types like Meme Oshino and John Taylor. PS I always imagine Fifer in an alternate soap bubble where he cosplays as Silver John singing away to all to hear.

Steve

Are you turning into the folksy wisdom show? Can we have your peach cobbler recipe, God willing and the creek don't rise?

Jim Cannon

I still think Hellboy is the best paranormal investigator, even if he doesn't investigate much as such and mostly punches. Don't get me wrong, Silver John is straight up awesome, but monsters fighting monsters is basically my favorite genre of fiction.

Jim Cannon

Also, One Other sounds like a Fachan, a beastie from Scottish folklore with one arm and one leg, but only one eye. I quite like the two eyes of this monster, it suggests a possible symmetry... as if its other half is still in that other dimension.

Sludgecrawler

Silver John is climbing a mountain; why is he climbing a mountain?

Darth Pseudonym

One Other with its one hand and one leg sounds a lot like a couple of mythological creatures, specifically the arabic nasnas and the gaelic fachan.

Ben Gilbert

Wellman also has a supernatural detective called John Thunstone in a series of short stories and novels. They’re worth checking out

Erik Sieurin

The first time I read some Silver John stories, nothing in them directly indicated to me that they take place in the second half of the 20th century to me; that John is a veteran from Korea, etc. The language and the setting made me think it took place in the 19th century...

Jeremy Impson

Chad and Chris, I really enjoyed the multimedia nature of this episode!

ESTY

Anybody worried about artists being put out of work by AI, is not familiar with the term “client notes”

Stacey Cahan

Chad's vision of the way Silver John fights One Other put me in mind of a very specific Yngwie Malmsteen album cover (Trilogy)

Cat Wilson

The part about the root being pulled and another world below is straight out of Iroquois and Huron oral creation myths about a woman that falls from the sky. A version of this is told in Paul Goble’s Star Boy.

Forrest Rush

Where is the Silver John Netflix series (that gets cancelled after one season) with narration by one Chad Fifer?

Matthew Bizzell

Hey Chris and Chad, English doctor and sucker for butter here, With Chad thinking there could have been a sexual origin for "ridden hard and put away wet," I just wanted to clear up "balls to the wall." It comes from early pilots going flat out, full speed; the lever that dictated speed (which had a knob on the top) was pushed forward to the "wall" of the cockpit. Just thought that this was prudent to get out of the way... I also wanted to bring up a game/line of miniatures that fit into the Silver John milieu: The game is called Fearsome Wilderness and there are printable minis made available by Liquid Artifacts. I backed it on Kickstarter a while back and enjoy looking at my agropelter, ball-tailed cat, and hidebehind. I can't speak to the game itself, but the minis are the correct level of disconcerting.

Aaron Eskenazi

Recently watched the Movie Screamers, a nice B- Sci-Fi movie that I was surprised to recognize as based on the Philip K. Dick story Second Variety one which I think you would both love and which would be great for the new podcast.

Hayden Orr

Loved the story guys, it’s always a treat to hear Chad speak in an accent that reminds me of home! I live in north Georgia on what is essentially the border of Georgia and North Carolina, and we’re nestled right in the foot hills of the Appalachias up here. I had never actually heard of Manly Wade Wellman until the Hellboy story “The Crooked Man” which leans heavily on Appalachian folklore and utilizes a character that’s a pastiche of John the Balladeer. After reading it and finding out about this author who so often utilizes folklore from my neck of the woods I tried to get a hold of his work but so many of his books are out of print it’s been difficult! So it’s been great hearing you guys cover some of his stories!

Richard Haussmann

There are are a couple of MWW short story collections and the first Silver John novel on Audible that are free as part of the Audible subscription. It is a shame the others aren't properly in print or collected. With e-books, there's just no excuse (except, you know, lawyers).

Robert D.

Chad, Josh’s AI paintings is clearly a cry for help. This is a man desperately in need of ice cream! Seriously though, I experimented a bit with trying to get one of those AI:a to paint One Other. No luck. The problem is probably that those AI:s are fully based on pre-existing art, so they are fundamentally noncreative? They can only remix stuff that already exists. Of course, what is creativity really? Getting influences from existing art and mixing it up a bit takes you a long way. Now I’m thinking about Data in TNG and his attempts to get creative…

Rasmus Juul

In Wellmans story O Ugly Bird John Silver is looking for the bottomless pool as well. If there a connection between his stories?