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Study 022 - The Sea and Little Fishes - Part 1 (Patreon)

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2022-12-15 18:32:02
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2022-12-18 20:04:13
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Join us as we dive into The Sea and Little Fishes by Terry Pratchett!

Special thanks to reader Rachel Lackey of Rachel Watches Star Trek!

Next up: More Sea, More Fishes!

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Victor Badger

I love Pterry and all of his books. Super stoked for this episode!

Mark McGranaghan

Appreciating the choice of short story - Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg get my vote for the two best characters in all of Pratchett :) (a tough call to have to make!)

Sludgecrawler

Very happy for you to find Pratchett and that you find it good ❤️

Background Noise Comic

I LOVE Harrison Bergeron! I used to read it to my kids. Very relevant to today’s societal struggles with inclusiveness.

Matthew Alderman

Not Mr. Terry Pratchett—SIR Terry Pratchett, OBE. Signed, Sir Matthew Alderman, KM, KHS

HRPrice

*busts through the wall, kool aid man style* Heck yeah Pratchett time! I found Pratchett early- whole chunks of my brain are made up of Discworld quotes, phrases and ideas. For non-Discworld Pratchett books, let me throw out a recommendation for Only You Can Save Mankind. It’s a YA book, it’s rooted in a very specific era of computer games, but it’s extremely good. Apparently someone out there agrees with me, because someone made a stage musical out of it? I’ve never listened to it, but it’s existence delights me.

Drix

Absolutely psyched that you guys are not only covering Pratchett, but also gave me a new story set within Discworld. I've read almost all the books, but I was so happy to find another Witches' story like this. A fun anecdote about him: When he was knighted, he was disappointed he did not get a sword. So naturally, he bought a forge, learned how to smith, dug up metal from a meteorite, blended it with iron, and made himself his own starmetal sword to make up the difference. I discovered his work when I was in middle school, and I learned about his death waiting for track and field practice in high school. He's one of my favorite authors of all time, and has undoubtedly influenced how I view the world, and certainly added fuel to the furnace that is my love of puns. I certainly wouldn't mind more Pratchett throughout the rest of the month. Pretty please, for Hogswatch?

Victor Badger

So I found Pratchett accidentally, forgetting to mail in the card for the Sci Fi book club (it was like Colombia House-if you want to feel old, try finding a teenager and explain Colombia House to them, all of it is absolutely alien). It was Witches Abroad, featuring Nanny and Granny, and I fell in love with Terry Pratchett. His work landed in my hands at exactly the right time, and helped me to grow into a better person than I truly could have been. It was great to hear how much you enjoyed this, and I truly hope to hear more of his work on the show.

Victor Badger

Also, most of the reason people advise skipping the first two books is because they are very much pastiches, poking fun at such show favorites as Conan and Lovecraft, as well as Farfhd and the Grey Mouser, and Dragonriders of Pern. This is not remotely what the books become in relatively short order. I ride hard for Small Gods as a starting point, mainly because it's a great book and stands alone. Plus it was probably the book that saved me from becoming an insufferable jagoff.

DreamingofRoses

If y’all like these characters, you should read the Tiffany Aching set of Discworld books next, (The Wee Free Men, A Hat Full of Sky, Wintersmith, and I Shall Wear Midnight) it’s all about witches. You also get to see one of the instances of Granny Weatherwax’s bee borrowing in one of them.

Steve

The first two books are very different, but with your wealth of background, I'd read them first. You get the same kind of humour but the comment is aimed at Fantasy rather than society in general. Bizarrely I heard the first of these serialised in Women's Hour on Radio 4 in 1983.

Bret Kramer

The fact that he can be covered by the show, because he ate’nt ate’nt dead, still breaks my heart a little.

Jason Thompson

Hey, random story suggestion: PLEAAASE cover “Lynne Foster is Dead”! A frickin’ wild Weird Tales 1930s pseudo-trans fantasy story!

Aaron Gullison

Signed up to hear this story. Let me tell you now, if you cover all his works, you may as well change this podcast to "Strange Studies of Pratchett stories".

Lord Rancid

When I was barely in my teens I thought "Nail it to the counter Mr. Ferguson and damn those Cheesemongers" was the funiest thing I'd ever read... Though TP came up with many more thought provoking, not to mention sensical lines throughout the years (a very well quoted one being “Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it.”) that cheesmonger line is never far from my thoughts....

Henrik Arborén

As is so often the case Reality surpasses myth...or in this case I should probably say Myth surpasses fiction. The mytheme of the world being supported on the backs of four elephants, themselves resting on the back of a turtle occurs in Hindu mythology, Chinese mythology, and the mythologies of the indigenous peoples of the Americas. Thanks for a lovely show. I should go read me some Pratchett 😊 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Turtle

MortalGlare

Getting to hear you guys fall in love with Pratchett and his style of comedy i s just absolutly fantastic, it is a shame you'll probably never do one of the full novels because I would 100% listen to you guys read through the entire series!

Ben Gilbert

I read Hogfather first and then the rest of the books in chronological order. The first few books are fine. They are parodies of popular fantasy stories including nods to Robert Howard and Lovecraft. The later books are parodies of real life in a fantasy setting.

Hayden Orr

Great episode fellas, I’ve been on the edge of reading Pratchett for a while now and listening to this episode has pushed me over the edge……of discworld! Time to buy 41 books in one go. Also, I can’t remember if you guys have addressed it before since you reference it so often, but would you consider doing a bonus ep over the whole league of extraordinary gentlemen series? I recently re-read it all after Kevin O’Neil’s passing and was reminded of how damn good it is, and I’d love to hear your guys thoughts on it since it’s actually finished.

The Spider Incident

I love Pratchett, and it's an absolute delight to listen to you two discover his writing and react to your first Pratchett story. Rachael was a perfect choice of reader. It would be great to hear you cover the other Pratchett story you referred to for the last one of the month. Also I think the title refers to being a big fish in a small pond. I haven't read this story though, so I'll be finding out with you next week!

Adequately Excellent Entertainment

I recall when I first started dating this one guy in the mid-1990’s, he discovered I had not read any Dysk World or many comic books and decided to “see to my education”. He gave me a BOX of Dysk World books and compilations of Cerberus (of all things). When I got to “Equal Rites” said that he thought I would really like Granny Weatherwax because I was “a lot like her”… I WAS SO INSULTED. I concluded that Granny was a cool person to read about, and the kind of person that to know them personally is to respect them but to not like them very much. I wanted to be like Nanny Ogg particularly after that business in Wintersmith with the onions. (Not because everybody says that Nanny is the Witch who is truly the most powerful.) Ultimately, my favorite Dysk World character is… Sir Terry Pratchet. As all the good lines in any Dysk World story is in the narration. (Though The Nac Mac Feegle come a very close second.)

Banned Library

I absolutely love Sir Terry and that y'all are covering him. On his video game love, one of my favorite quotes of his was about the game Doom: "Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil... prayer, fasting, good works and so on. Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun. Eat leaden death, demon..."

Fred Kiesche

Yes, I know there's no mention of Dean in this episode, just making sure tradition is observed.

Cat Wilson

When are you gonna read The Gentle Earth?

James Duffy

So pleased to hear DW covered. I read them over and over in my youth and would constantly laugh out loud. You can still play the old DW PC point and click game online through your browser.

Colm Kearns

As someone who love's Pratchett's work enough to have done a podcast running the gamut of the entire Discworld series, it was with some trepidation that I approached this episode. It's like introducing two friends to one another and worrying they won't get along! But I was delighted Chad and Chris enjoyed the story, and found their fresh perspective on characters I'm so familiar with quite enlightening.

Tomas Rawlings

Re other authors featured on this podcast playing games, it is well known that August Derleth was a huge fan of Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries.

Jeremy Impson

Here I sit, crying in a Wegmans grocery store, initially in sadness because I still miss Sir Terry, secondly in happiness because it sounds like you two are about to be converted, and finally in comfort reading every one else's comments, being reminded that I'm not the only one who loves his work.

Jim Cannon

So a friend of mine loaned me his copy of <i>The Colour of Magic</i> because he was a huge Pratchett fan and I read it and I did not become a huge Pratchett fan. I found it very much what Chad said he feared this short story would be - "Douglas Adams lite" - and while I enjoy tv shows and films Douglas Adams was involved with, I never much cared for his prose. So the first Discworld novel never moved me and I never felt compelled to seek more out. But damn, Skippy, lines from this short story had me laughing out loud. Rachel's reading of the exchange between the farmer and his kid killed me. Maybe I need to try an audiobook? I don't know. I'm certainly not interested in diving into 41 novels, but I think I can more easily see why people love this guy's work, if its more of the quality of the short story.

Sludgecrawler

For those with no time for reading they are currently releasing new versions of the audiobooks with some big names attached. I like the old readers but am interested to see what Andy Serkis and Bill Nighy will bring to it.

Shadavid

One of the notable things to me about Sir Terry Pratchett's books was he came across as a small 'c' conservative author (warning: I am using a UK term- some translation may be necessary to your culture) who liked people. It's a humour that is generous rather than condemning.

Shadavid

I miss the possibilities his death denies us. Granny Weatherwax versus Lord Vetinari- the two forces in Discworld who cannot be defeated. The fruition of Vetinari's masterplan- which may only exist in my head- but c'mon he was never going to leave the city to cruel, entitled idiots who think they should rule. It's a world that lives in the books and haunts the minds of their many devoted readers.

Bryce Perry

Guys...the apples are Nanny Oggs. Because there's no Granny Smith on the disc.

Alex Beal

Just adding my voice to the excitement that you're covering Sir TP here (and my sadness that he's eligible to be covered). As others have mentioned his first discworld novels are more parody and as his writing improves and Discworld becomes its own thing it becomes much more genuine and the satire is aimed at our own world. I do always cringe a little when I see people talk about the beginning of things and they say "the first few books/episodes/seasons aren't great but it gets better!". Almost everything gets better as it goes on, and I think it's unfair to compare the beginning of something to the current state. One example that jumps to mind is The Dresden Files (which I think Chris has read). Yes, the first few books are rough compared to the 10th, 11th, etc, but the first book was certainly enough to get me to pick up the rest of the series and presumably it was for most of the other readers as well. I think it's very easy to see the flaws in earlier works and forget the good parts, because as the creator(s) improve their craft the good parts get better and the flaws are generally smoothed over. All that to say, you should read all 41 of those books, and if you want to start a new podcast around Discworld (you guys aren't busy, right?) I'll happily sign up!

Mark McGranaghan

One of the nice things about Discworld is that there are so many places you can jump in, and still come away with a great story (even if you don’t get all the references, cameos, etc.) I think the reading order for my first read through was largely dictated by what & when I found in charity shops and the local library, to be honest

Psuke Bariah

My first Pratchett book was Mort and my favorite remains Wyrd Sisters, a retelling of Macbeth. It had, to my mind, the funniest scene I've ever read in fiction, with the Fool and Greebo. I think you ought to start with the first two books - they are loving parody/pastiche, and Rincewind and Twoflower are fantastic characters. Not to mention it's where we first learn of the Librarian. And once you've read more of Pratchett and reread Good Omens,you will know who wrote what, their different styles fully shine through. One thing I do love about the witches series is that they are all reimaginings of famous stories/plays/what have you, and it is fun watching his version play out.

Sweatin' to the Great Oldies

I have been stubbornly (and stupidly) resistant to reading Pratchett for decades. I suppose this might be the thing that gets me to reconsider. It really does sound like y'all are having a ball.

Thunk

I want to be there when the boys discover The Luggage

Richard Maier Art

Thanks for reading my comment. If I saved Chad from reading "The Colour of Magic" as his introduction to Pratchett, my work here is done. I think you would have had a much different impression of his work had you started there. As others have pointed out, the early work was more pastiche, whereas the later books were more satire.