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D&D Court: Bonus Cases - Perfect Greg and The Poutine Faux Pas (Patreon)

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2026-06-12 01:53:09
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Dungeon Court is STILL in session! Join Justices Murphy, Axford, Tanner and Bailiff Jake as they pass judgement on your trials at the table!

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Sound Mixing and Editing by Trevor Lyon

Dungeon Court Theme Song by Sam Weiller

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Parma Jorts

Need Roll Dolls in the shop

clerby

2 week paid vacation 😭😭

Paul C

What an ominous thumbnail

Fridge

incredible thumb nail omg

Gabrielle

NOTES APP APOLOGY IM ROLLING

LowlyWorm

Yet another scrape with the Peanuts fandom? Snoopy nation will not be pleased

austinoxner

There must be another energy drink episode coming or something. Main and Short Rest a mere handful of hours apart 2 weeks in a row? Murph is a damn machine. Keep grinding city pigeon.

John EldenRing

As a loyal Peanuts fan, I am appalled you’re even paying him for the vacation.

Kellyd

To all the non-peanuts fans accepting Caldwell's apology in these comments, it's not yours to accept!!!

Peregrine

I don’t know if I can support you anymore unless you disavow Caldwell

Pizza Greg

*busts down the door and starts slangin dough*DID SOMEBODY SAY PIZZA GREG??? oh... Prefect Greg? My Bad Everyone!

Bray

Lmao

clerby

lyndon being johnson, why are they called disco fries?

Mythseal

RIP in peace Cadwell, we will miss you.

Spencer Bloom

I wanna smoke the shit that made Lyndon B Johnson.

Katherine

Disaster capitalism by wizards of the coast already exists— it’s called “filthy rich: the 3-D game of capitalism.” it’s a deck building game where you’re playing as business owners trying to get customers and placing signs over one another. post campaign finale we played a round thinking it would be a quick and fun way to wind down……. smash cut to three hours later we were having an early morning hours collective psychosis experience. my party’s review: “that was an unforgettable night, i’m glad we played it, and you are never allowed to bring that game over again” should I send it to the P.O. box?

Katherine

yes it is actually by wizards of the coast pre 2000 (leaving it vague cause I know yall love to guess a year)

Peregrine

Please bring Kylo back 🙏

Nudd

I understand the debate over the dragon turtle's steam breath going around a corner, I've run into that myself while DMing. There are specific spells like legacy Fireball (which I thought for sure Murph was going to read) that specify that their area of effect spreads around corners, while others like breath weapons don't say as much. Does that mean that areas of effect only have that property if mentioned in the rules text? When a spell says it spreads around corners, does that mean taking cover does nothing? I feel like I've ruled it differently depending on circumstance: enclosed spaces are more dangerous for explosions than sparse cover in open areas, for example. I also often give cover bonuses like Caldwell suggested if the players/enemies are specifically taking cover in preparation for a spell or effect.

austinoxner

Yeah! If you dont fuck with the Lil folks, get the heck outta here. Posers.

Ripley Stardust Love

I have some context for the poutine discussion. For my credentials, i have lived in Ottawa Ontario for 14 years and have been to our annual Poutine Fest upwards of 10 times. It is absolutely reasonable for a poutine night to have variety while staying within the cheese curd and gravy landscape. The variety with Poutine is the toppings, in this way you could consider it a pizza-type food. The majority of options at poutine restraunts come with different toppings still with a fry,gravy,curd base. Now, it is also possible for the gravy or curd to be replaced but it is less common than you may think. All this being said, who tf would be upset about tex mex fries, thats delicious

LowlyWorm

As a snoopy nation member I’m offended but respect your opinion (notes app apology wouldn’t hurt though)

Mila Janus

Deeply enjoy Murphs vibes this ep

Walker Thurman

Prices of the Apocalypse is what I’ll call the campaign I’m already writing where there is a cabal of CEOs who like Emily said are disaster capitalists

Sjsharks93

I don't think I've ever boo'd in my car like I just did for the god machine

Walker Thurman

If you go to a dinner party and bring a whole different meal that’s crazy. If you go to what is essentially a potluck, being asked to bring toppings for fries, bringing different toppings than everyone else is just participating. The idea of poutine makes me physically ill to the point that if that was the theme of the night I simply could not attend, but if you like having all your food mixed together already I feel like “poutine + taco meat” might be something.

Parma Jun

Lyndon being Johnson, it's 100% on the hosts for having a specific food theme for their disguised housewarming party and getting shitty about any variation on it. UNGENEROUS read but they seem like the kinda person who'd get snotty if someone stated a food allergy.

Walker Thurman

Dinosaur mixed bag SHOULD include an earlier episode but you have to watch it first to build/renew the affection for the characters

HeyYeah

I love honestly the DM who wasted 3 months of their players time because the solution was that there was no solution. I genuinely wish there were more DND games that had no resolution and were just like pessimistic and nihilistic, that's awesome sincerely

Grombotron

What’s upsetting to me about the dragon turtle, is that I think even with real world physics they’re safe. Steam would form a plume as it entered the larger room from the hallway

ak

RUN

JazzSnackers

PUGS IN BLANKETS WAS *RIGHT* THERE GUYS

Halfacre

LBJ = Little Bailiff Jake?

Emma Line Tagø

Living in a non English-speaking country, I thought Peppermint Patty was a mascot for a Peppermint hard candy, and imagined a m&m-style mascot, but with a red+white swirled Peppermint instead of the m&m. This episode made me finally curious enough to google what she actually looks like, and I was pretty disappointed. But I hereby offer the nightmare Peppermint version of an m&m mascot to the naddpod nightmareverse

Verdigree

The way Fireball works is you fire like a magic bullet that detonates when it his the targeted space, and it definitely clarifies it does go around corners, if Fireball sets the precedent for how AoE works, that Dragon Turtle is even more in the clear

Thefindingmoon

For what it’s worth, area of effect is the rule and its point of origin to point of target to compare. If you are around a corner, from point of origin you have total cover and the area is not included. Submitter is right

Driftwood747

Take curly boys, add jellyxbbq sauce = pug fries

Bransy330

All Lyndons Being Johnson, I think the LBJ ='d Little Balif Jork

Thomas Jager

Not all fries with toppings are poutine! Fries can be delicious with lots of stuff on top, but if you don't have curds and gravy, that's not poutine. It's an offence with some place advertises poutine, and then tops it with grated mozzarella.

Frank

LBJ, Lowly Bailiff Jake

BurtMcKraken

Look, Michael Being Jordan this is a great episode.

Mr. Dude Sky

Whenever they get into the minutia of the rules it’s just so damn frustrating. The rules aren’t that ambiguous you guys just refuse to read or remember the very thing you read. There are some spells that can get around cover through point of origin or listed in their descriptions like fireball where it specifically says it goes around corners. Breath attacks don’t follow that rule unless otherwise stated. It’s like they are purposefully not reading or remembering a thing they are saying. I don’t get how they are getting worse at DnD over time. This episode was so frustrating I had to stop halfway. The gang can’t be this stupid can they? How have they made it this far being so ignorant of what they do.

Charlie Brown’s Best Friend

Charlie and I were getting steamed but the pleasant surprise of Caldwell’s apology was enough to placate his rage

An_Armed_Bear

I'm always blown away by how much bs submitters put up with. Being strung along by that god machine stuff for 3 months? I'd have had enoughafter a couple weeks. Or the number of questions that talk about shitty combats or arguments that last hours.

Ben Delahay

Murph, fireball explicitly spreads around corners. So, it would work exactly like this cone scenario if the point they chose was the visible end of the hallway. Can we get the notepad apology?

Tori

as a montrealer even I think "poutine" as a theme for a housewarming party is absurd. you can only eat so much. its really salty and rich.

Ben Delahay

The person that deserved to be sentenced was Wizards of the Coast. They sent a faulty airplane part (this encounter) for this plane (this module) that the pilot (the DM) had to fly unknowingly dooming their passengers and themselves. They’re not to blame for the vague rulings and poorly designed map. They didn’t build the broken plane they only flew it.

Jaylin

As a fellow New Jerseyan I got heated right along with Murph on the disco fries case. I see you and hear you my dude

Aidan Boyle

Alternatively, since fireball explicitly states that it goes around corners, that implies that AoE's don't by default. Exception that proves the rule.

Amyyyy

I'm gonna get a Nintenda' 😆

LoggyDoggy

I’m loving that they never figured out LBJ was lowly bailiff Jake

chris Mcgrew

Two crew!!!! Pig tails is the only name choice for caldwells idea, I threw my hands up in frustration on the sales flr and now i cant wear a beanie anymore😄

Amy Bergeron

I am Québécoise, and Emily's comments about not wanting to roll dice with gravy on your hands confused me... We eat poutine with forks up here. Are y'all eating poutine with your bare hands?? Also I understood LBJ to be little baby Jake, no? (Though Linden Being Johnson is very excellent; my first DnD character was a fighter named Linden!)

Amy Bergeron

Yooo fellow Montrealer, what's up!!

petron

I was thinking Slinky Dogs like the toy story character

Nate P

As a Canadian, saying that you can do anything but curds on poutine feels like blasphemy. You can call it whatever, but without curds that ain't poutine.

Kellyd

I've resigned myself to believing in my heart that anything that goes on for "hours" is a fully made up story or submitted by a younger listener prone to more exaggeration. I've literally never even heard about a live, face to face argument lasting for more than 10 minutes absolute max. A group of adults are not sitting and watching while 2 of their friends are screaming at each other for longer than 12 seconds

AgedGouda

See, Caldwell getting cancelled? I could’ve seen that coming. But Perfect Greg? That stings. THAT one hurt. You hate to see it.

🐧lost penguin familiar

I work at a burger restaraunt called Bo&Vine and we simply call those Fry Piles. Fries + cheese, parm, bacon. whatever else we have. create your own pile.

Clever Innuendo

Is this incredibly quiet for anyone else?

Jillian of Vanaheim

First rule of D&D, no girlfriends (or similar) just watching the game. They play or they leave. 😂 Unmonitored GFs skulking around is just asking for trouble. Suddenly you are having a dinner party and not playing D&D.

Lauren

The notepad apology is spending me

Clever Innuendo

In defense of the first question, nearly every "cloud" spell says it wraps around corners. The Steam breath doesn't specifically say that, but I could totally get why they thought it would apply.

Pizzapie_420

I am happy to hear that Caldwell is finally taking accountability for his actions.

Clever Innuendo

I like the context of the second question was essentially the host saying "I'm having a Pizza Party!... make sure you bring your own pizza!" And then getting mad when someone brought a type of pizza they don't like.

Sourdoe Starter

all i could think about was the super mario show sloppy party

Alexander Mullarkey

Moved to BC from the states recently, Americans go in with hands on most french fry based dishes.

Nina

if you're gonna be Lyndon you GOTTA be Johnson 😂

Sam

I expect a notes app apology

P Newcomer

Is Jake hypermobile?

El Jefe

The fact that they couldn’t put together that “LBJ” = Lowly Bailiff Jake, just makes me think that they need a dozen more Ls in there to figure it out. He hasn’t had a singly Lowly in a whiiiiiiile.

Mystery Soup

Beautiful Madoka reference Caldwell <3

YourAnimeDad

Same dude really brought me back to one of the worst tables I've been at

Evan

That said, when presented with a vague gray area rules situation, why would you choose to resolve it in the way that results in an immediate unsatisfying TPK and ends the campaign? It feels like if a DM is presented with a faulty scenario like this they still bear some responsibility if they choose to handle it in the worst way possible.

Ben Delahay

You can’t predict the dice, and the module was built in a way that set up the TPK to happen. Not the fault of a new DM.

sjmokey

I believe hotdog fries are called salchipapas

Stations & Starships

Just last weekend on vacation I went to the best poutine place in Vancouver B.C., La Belle Patate, and they had crazy toppings for their menu like 60 different varieties... so yea that's just how it be. Also little weiners in the middle of curly fries is such a damn good idea it should be real, i will make them for my kids, and Curly Boys is THE name is too good.

Benjamin Krawchuk

Dude I've never been so appalled by their discussion around a case. They need to write a notepad apology ASAP

Evan

When 8BBC Kylo Ren was mentioned I flashed back through the years like the food critic in Ratatouille

Val

Rest in Peanuts

Val

WOAH WOAH WOAH

Leomund's Tiny Nut

PLEASE!!! Dinosaurs final episode! No matter what I think Jake will make Murph upset.

A. Lee. S

Poutine is poutine. “Bring a variety of gravies and cheeses” is weird. Should have been “being extra stuff to go on top of the poutine." Having said that “stuff on fries night” sounds incredible. 😝😅 All text above is said in jest. I do not reflect the opinions of all Canadians. Take only as prescribed.

Wil Kauffman

Pugs in a blanket was right there, and I am gonna need a notepad apology on that

Pip

I would have assumed that these magic area of effect rules would also cover the breath weapon cone: Every area of effect has a point of origin, a location from which the spell's energy erupts. The rules for each shape specify how you position its point of origin. Typically, a point of origin is a point in space, but some spells have an area whose origin is a creature or an object. A spell's effect expands in straight lines from the point of origin. If no unblocked straight line extends from the point of origin to a location within the area of effect, that location isn't included in the spell's area. To block one of these imaginary lines, an obstruction must provide total cover.

AXWH

Lowly Bailiff Jonk

Xanian Jamfalcon

I'm upset but I know time will close all wounds. Forgiven but not forgotten.

Kris Barnes

As a Canadian, I feel I must speak up on this poutine issue. Anyone who wants to host a poutine party must be from Canada, so they must have either had Smoke’s Poutine or been to La Banquise in Montreal. Both of those places serve poutine covered in stuff like various meats, vegetables, sauces etc. They also have Tex Mex poutines which is literally what this guy wrote but on top of poutine. A poutine party where you bring different cheeses and gravies is itself pretty weird. Some fast food places in Canada do different gravies, like Popeyes does a Cajun gravy for their poutine, but normally you just see the one type of gravy and cheese curds. Really the party should’ve been “hey poutine party bring your own toppings and we supply the fries, gravy, and curds”. The girlfriend being mad about the guy bringing Tex Mex stuff is being way too inflexible and quite frankly a bit asinine.

Oliver Gullikson

as a montrealer, the submitter is the only one who did poutine night right, cheese curds are the only option and i would fuck up a tex mex poutine

Zarroc

Is this the Sloppy Party they were talking about in the Super Mario Brothers Super Show??

Kris Barnes

Caldwell don’t apologize for the Madoka Magica reference. That resonated with many of us

Frogndog

I find great comfort in knowing that Caldwell retains custody of the talking Kylo Ren figure

Camden Jones

Lyndon being Johnson, “frank fries” or “French franks” was right there

bloopy2

Look at the rules for cone area of effect! I believe it says the spell/ability needs to explicitly say it goes around corners to count?

Brother Fern

A fry pile with Gouda, ham, and popcorn chicken sounds like it would hit the spot right about now

Brother Fern

Yall ever do mushrooms on poutine? I just feel they go so well with a gravy

Oliver Gullikson

mushrooms on poutine my beloved ❤️❤️❤️ it used to be my go to 2am drunk food when i lived near a late-night poutine spot

xatlern

I would like to add Halal Snack Pack to the list of Fry-based slop meals. It's so good if y'all haven't experienced it.

S Bekkum (edited)

Comment edits

2026-09-05 07:00 I love Puella and Sailor Moon. Everyone else should write an apology for bot getting Caldwell’s reference!
2026-06-13 03:24 I love Puella and Sailor Moon. Everyone else should write an apology for not getting Caldwell’s reference!

I love Puella and Sailor Moon. Everyone else should write an apology for not getting Caldwell’s reference!

Serious goose (certified gamer)

He only took a minute from writing it before posting? It feels like he didn’t genuinely take time to reflect

Benjamin Korynta

Yo Axford I dont know where to post this but your music is so wonderful, thank you for sharing with all of us

Mary Colligan

Emily and Caldwell! I wanted to let you know that, while listening to this episode with my father who suffers from late stage Alzheimer’s, he laughed every time he heard either of you laughing! Something about your laugh brought some joy into his limited world and it was really nice to see him laugh again, even if he didn’t know why he was laughing! Thank you for your contagious laughter! ❤️

Ian

Them saying note pad ? apology instead of note apps apology is making me feel completely insane

Grass

This is absolutely the funniest thing I’ve ever seen

Libbortea

I love when Caldwell makes an anime reference that no one else knows

Jeremy Chartrand

French Canadian here: Poutine often comes with MANY different toppings, including Tex Mex style. Pulled pork is also good.

Brian McAree Murphy

If it doesn't say goes around corners then you really have to give the benefit of the doubt to the players. To do anything else is aiming for a gotcha, the rules don't say it one way or another so any choice you make is purely to be vindictive or not. Even using real world logic, the steam would go around the corner and be focused out the door of the next room. It would not immediately spread out into a cone again, and any actual spread would lose a lot of energy.

Brian McAree Murphy

You can't predict dice, you can however own bad decisions. When the rules are a grey area you can choose to be vindictive or not. The roll may not be your responsibility, but asking for it is. No rule forced the DM to make the cone go around corners (and other comments have explained it in fact does not). So the DM had to actively choose to potentially kill their party when it was completely reasonable for it not to work.

Katy Tacik

There's a resto in Montreal called La Banquise where you can get onion rings or jalapeño poppers on your poutine. Of COURSE you can have tex mex poutine!!

Smiththebat

Naw. Dragon Turtle DM was absolutely within his rights. It’s buttoned up. It could go either way but it’s absolutely fair what they did. I firmly believe SOME real world physics can play a part in D&D because it often just naturally informs how we are creative. There has to be SOME rules to magic; it goes both ways just like when Murph exclaims that magic can’t go through walls therefore it wouldn’t go around a corner. Why though? Just like you can ask why the steam WOULDN’T curl around the corner and still within the 60’ cone.

Smiththebat

If you throw a fire ball to the end of a hallway where there are people hiding around the corner, I’M SORRY but the people around the corner are getting hit. It’s not about the fire going through the wall. Mopey, my guy, take the tiny L here. It’s not the same as just standing behind a wall and “spamming fireballs through the wall”.

Smiththebat

Murph is sitting on a pile of tiny L’s this ep. It’s not Disco Fries slander to say that Poutine can only be made with cheese curds. Thats like saying it’s slander on Tails to say that Sonic is the fastest creature in the land. Also ya’ll neeeed to go to Montreal because all the different fry toppings you mentioned EXIST as different Poutines. Except it WILL be Cheese curds because that makes it poutine. Also poutine house parties are relatively common in Canada, your lack of cultural sensitivity is honestly… sooo Mopey of you.

Smiththebat

Hard disagree. Steam would go around the corners. There has to be SOME logic or everything just feels arbitrary. Give them a bonus to the dex save and move on. If you got rid of the corner the players would be in the AOE, so the ruling isn’t that the steam forms a new cone it’s that this SCALDING HOT GAS is rushing around the corner and it IS going to cause some damage. I’ll even add in an edit that if the corner they ran around isn’t one in a tight hallway and into a room that’s deep-ish then sure, they can take zero damage! Players definitely shouldn’t take the full brunt either way, though.

MitchySlaps

It was bothering me that I couldn’t tell if they didn’t get the meaning or if they were just rolling with their bit for the sake of it

YourAnimeDad

Lyndon Being Johnson is now cannon event

Wojtek

"Martin Luther style" from Caldwell knocked the wind out of me

Colin Maclellan

Curly tail dog, pugs and LBJ (lowly bailiff jake) come on yall lol

Vilaykham Sukhaseum

I'm a poutine régulière supremacist but there are so many variations and some of them are very popular, too! If you go to a local casse-croute over here in Montreal, their poutine menu can go up to 10 items! We also have a poutine festival that's also a competition (I think there was a pho poutine once and a Khao poon poutine). This also reminded me of that God damn Omnikrom song, Danse La Poutine.

Cory

I'm really sad that I didn't get to see a live show before Murph got banned from entering Canada.

BeepBoopMahGoo

There's plenty of different poutines available! My personal favourite one is this turkey dinner one a place I was visiting had where there was like turkey, stuffing, and cranberry sauce on top of the gravy, cheese, and fries. It was the best one I ever had! But I still gotta ban Murph from Canada for besmirching poutine's good name

Nudd

Good points all around. I think best outcome would be for the DM to see that this is a TPK if they rule corner cover does nothing, and find a compromise that keeps the stakes alive without outright killing the party instantly. I understand the need for logic and consequences, but a TPK from an ambush in a dungeon is rough. I looked at the stat block for dragon turtles and was reminded that it's a CON save for the breath, so RAW cover does nothing if the DM says it acts like real-world vapor and spreads around the corner. Still, there are a lot of ways this could have not been a TPK: The DM could say that the forceful jet of steam initially rushes past the party, but rebounds and fills the room with hot vapor. You could use the Extreme Heat rules from the DMG, accelerating the timeline from one hour to one round as long as the party stays in the room. Stacking levels of exhaustion rapidly is often more tense than rolling death saves in my experience. Alternatively, you could give the players a turn in combat before the spreading steam reaches them, treating it as a lingering AOE like Cloudkill that pressures them to think on their feet to escape. There are also consequences aside from a TPK that can keep a campaign interesting if the party is still knocked out due to bad luck. The party gets captured by cultists, important items get stolen while they're knocked out, one party member makes a brave sacrifice, ect. It's easy to say in retrospect, though. A DM running their first module probably couldn't think of a way to avoid this outcome. Coming up with creative solutions on the spot to avoid killing your friends when the book says they're doomed is a learned skill. Dungeon Court can serve as a cautionary tale for new DMs in cases like this.

Vilaykham Sukhaseum

After Getting Into the Comments, it seems that it brought out a lot of Montrealers 😆

Fxd Gear Queer

If you don't otherwise have buy-in from the table, it's reasonable and fair expectation for puzzles and quests to be solvable, especially if you keep placing clues. If walking away is the only valid interaction, the game becomes self defeating, as demonstrated in this case. The players learned their lesson and left the table. I do think a "guys, we should just go" solution is feasible, and could be narratively interesting. However, it needs to be well crafted and prepped, slowly but surely guiding the players to the realization. Basically the dm ruined the players' narrative O without consent. Which would be fine if everyone knew it was on the table and agreed, but obviously that was not the case.

HeyYeah

These are all very big non arguments that are predicated upon the other players having fun as the sole metric of what's cool and awesome. Sometimes something isn't fun and is still really cool

Fxd Gear Queer

Another DM that should just write a damn novel. If there is only one correct outcome, and your collaborators' thoughts and actions have zero influence what are you even doing?

The Wizard Stream

On the note of hot dog fries perhaps we should all consider salchipapas!! Latin food with hot dog, fries, ketchup, mayo, and limes

Balnor’s Best Friend - Steve

I’m writing it in my good jokes book. But really, I had to pause and rewind there twice from laughing so hard

Balnor’s Best Friend - Steve

Some of us millennials used to write notes on Notepad in Window 98/XP/Vista I call the notes app “notepad” all the time too, it’s boomer Pooh behavior and I’ll be writing my apology shortly.

Luke B

Im pretty sure big Snoop is what the guy who wrote "From Crook To Cook" is called

StingRhae

What's up, fellow Oregonian? Fry piles slap 💚!

Shania Vold

Hi Naddpod as someone from Wisconsin I just need to say there are MANY different flavors of cheese curds

A$

Omg yes the movie Dinosaur 😭

tre blessing

honestly in my head right away, it was Little Baby James 🤣

DemonLordSparda

We demand a notes app apology from the Supreme Crit.

Aidan Smith

Very funny listening to the disco fry story while working my job as a fry cook, literally plating a poutine as it was brought up. And I’d like to submit falafel fries: sumac salad (red onion, sumac, oregano, cucumbers, red wine vinegar, olive oil), lemon tahini sauce, tzatziki, falafel, peperoncini. It’s a delightful combo

Charlie W

speaking on the poutine issue: I would say gravy would’ve solved the situation a little bit bc I do think poutine needs gravy to be poutine however they are putting EVERYTHINGGG in poutine these days so anything is fair game. Popular chain is known for its shawarma poutine

JAMES MEDINA

Oh shit it’s Perfect Greg!

Tyler Whorff

Let's shit in data centers together 🫡🤝

Tyler Whorff

Last episode of dinosaurs 🦖🦕

Nate P

100% there are 3 core components (curds, gravy, and fries) the rest is customizable. I had a maple bacon poutine once and it was amazing

Nate P

That got me too, who eats poutine with their hands?

Nate P

In my opinion there are 3 core components: the curds, gravy, and fries of some kind. From there you can add whatever.

sorennn

Lmaooo love this

Smiththebat

Absolutely a compromise should be made. I’m not even necessarily saying that I would have ruled the way DM did as I think it was pretty agressive… but whatever I decided it would have been whatever we thought was most fun and fitting, I know that for sure.

FactChucker

5th Edition actually deals with this issue pretty well. Pg. 251 of the 2014 DMs Guide. Basically, draw straight lines between the point of origin and all the corners of the square the target is standing in. Depending on whether none or some of those lines of attack bypass the obstacle, you get total or partial cover. Since this is theater of the mind, I would have been inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to the players and rule they had total cover and took no damage.

FactChucker

Also I think the Extreme Heat idea is clever and a good way to raise the stakes. Though it seems like the stakes were already pretty high.

Kaidan C

Caldwell is straight up wrong, the booming voice thing is indeed in the 2014 rules But all is forgiven if you don’t actually spend the rare mixed bag I so look forward to on the fucking Dinosaurs 🦕 🦖 finale

Frank K

Re: The steam breath around the corner thing. Per the rules, anything that does "go around corners" will clearly state that it does so, for instance, the "Cloudkill" spell specifically states that it goes around corners. If it doesn't state that it does, then it does not.

gittan

naddpod is soooo back (they NEVER left) (just really loved this episode)

Richa W

there was a little slot for a new vocal tic in my brain i didn't know about, and "lyndon bein' johnson" slammed into there and is lodged permanently

Baron Bullywug

My take on the AOE steam issue: Law school made me a better DM in exactly one way: A contract law principle is that ambiguity in a contract favors the person that did not draft it. I have interpreted this to mean that ambiguous dnd rules should generally favor positive outcomes for the players.

Baron Bullywug

more accurately: ambiguity should favor whatever outcome will be more fun for the players (which may or may not be "positve" depending on what your group finds fun)

Zeon Liberation

Thank you Murph for standing up for disco fries.

Blue Bee

That dragon turtle case is so annoying, I hate 5e "natural language" rules so much, thanks so much Mike Mearles

Ayn Like Ryan

Them completely missing that LBJ stands for Lowly Bailiff Jake absolutely sent me

Helencopter

Murph going for the fireball example is so funny when that's one of the spells that EXPLICITLY says that it goes around corners

Helen✨

Never apologize for a Madoka Magica reference!!

Roy Prishkulnik

I know I was screaming (internally lol) "please just read it to the end, it literally solves this case"

CommodoreBlue

Asada fries are far superior to either disco fries or poutine. Hell, shawarma fries are a better option than disco fries.

Kingzley Sparkman

My biggest thing for that fry cheese gravy case (forgot what they called it) is why the boyfriend decided to play DND for their housewarming party when his gf doesn't play. I kinda suspect the real issue for the night wasn't the food

Hemingwhyy

Hot dogs on fries is Salchipulpos y papas is Mexican street food! They cut the hot dogs to look like lil octopus. Delicious.

Gh.stF.ssil

Me: Roll a D20 until you get me a good number. Chat GPT: Rolling a d20… 🎲 4 — not great. 🎲 11 — acceptable, but we can do better. 🎲 7 — nope. 🎲 16 — pretty solid. 🎲 18 — now we’re talking. 🎲 20 — natural 20. We’re stopping here. Your good number is 20. Critical success. ✨ Me: Hell yeah. Chat GPT: You find the hidden lever, disarm the trap, convince the guard to help you, and somehow still have enough movement left to loot the room. 🎲 Natural 20. Today’s random luck has been officially allocated to you. Use it wisely. 😄 I should have been rolling dice like this for years.

Logan Carpenter

Talking on “some problems hero’s can’t solve”. My DnD group is currently doing an Eberron campaign, with our first major arc in a massive metropolis. Involving political intrigue, the city council infiltrated by shape shifting bugs, a corrupt police force, and the cogs trying to right the wrongs in the city ultimately having dark ulterior motives as well. Our DM made it abundantly clear the city sucks, the people suck, you can absolutely stay and try to solve all of the problems, but in the grand scheme of things there are no aspirations of setting sights on anywhere outside the city. The party after a time came to the conclusion “let’s get the fuck out of here, this is hell”

Logan Carpenter

Our last encounter in this city involved a factory that had employed “slave labor” (employees signed life contracts that they would work 18 hour days 7 days a week being magically enhanced to withstand the burden of the workload as their bodies literally rot without killing them, in exchange their families can live comfortably). Naturally the paladin had an issue with this and initiated combat with the owner (A massive mimic that was the managers office). Upon defeating the mimic the life contracts were all voided and all the workers immediately died, and 2 of the families were killed via “insurance measures” the factory had taken to ensure obedience. This last encounter only further solidified, the parties decision to leave the city.

Bunny 🩷

I can’t believe we missed pugs in a blanket!

Amy Bergeron

We need to get together to make a PowerPoint for the crew to argue that they should come here for a show yeah? 🥹 I'm sure they would do well in terms of sales, but other arguments include aspects of cultural and economic importance here that I think they would enjoy: poutine, wrestling, video games, bars, coffee, music & comedy...

Amy Bergeron

Thank you for the answer, that is B A N A N A S

Clotilde

Mentioning the adam driver doll from 8BBC was the best apology Caldwell could've given 🙏😔

Robert

Lyndon Being Johnson, I thought

Cory

We take disparagements of poutine seriously up here!

Swordmaster of Ginaz

Re: God Machine I think a lot of DMs should just write a book instead of running campaigns

Axle

Yeah, like the people who haul out a physics textbook are in the wrong, but so are the people who overcompensate with “well it’s a fantasy world it doesn’t need rules.” The rules of a world give a foundation for creativity, problem solving, and stakes. Idk maybe I’m just kinda tired of how often it feels like DMs get criticized for not making the 100% perfect decision in the spur of the moment. DMing is hard enough already, like yeah the steam DM coulda given them advantage, but that’s easy to think of when you’re a group of people spending minutes talking amongst eachother, rather than someone currently juggling notes and encounters and stat blocks. Feels like when you’re being given notes on an improv scene and someone says “well you coulda said this it woulda been funnier” rather than give you a broader constructive note.

Smiththebat

100% agree! I think this call could have gone either way. In a different comment I said how I would probably rule based on how far away the opposite wall is from the end of the hallway. If it’s a T-shaped three way junction a the and the hallways are all the same width then for sure the steam would go around. If the hallway lead into a deep room then maybe they’re safe… I dunno, I don’t think it’s that deep either way and DM’s thinking in the moment should be given more leeway for wonky decisions. As long as they’re willing to compromise or take constructive criticism!

Hashtaggles

It has to be (L)ittle (B)oy (J)ake right?

Jackson Hurley

Halal Snack Pack for sloppy fry night that is all 🍟 🌯

Kork Horf

LBJ=Lebron James

Aaron Chang

You would target the corner you can see and if the radius of fireball hits them from the side then it would "bypass" cover

Erik Boudreault

MURPH FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS READ THE NEXT SENTANCE OF FIREBALLLLL 🤣🤣

nandrusin

Damn the Kylo ren doll is a throwback!!

Scallopfrito

The perfect name for the curly boys is spudfuckers

Heather Johnson

LBJ has to be a little baby jake throwback

Big Dolphin Naturals

Lyndon Being Johnson or Lowly Bailiff Jake, the world may never know

Summer Tribe

typically I'm lenient on players but you run into two problems 1) the game is already far more and much harder worker for the DM 2) DnD 5e has terrible editing and tons of broken spells. a lot of newer DMs simply can't allow the ambiguity of spells like Mirage Arcane to be used to turn an entire countryside into magma, it just undermines too much. obviously tables have to communicate with each other but somebody is still going to be sore about their expectations being subverted

Baron Bullywug

5e is great at the player entry level and woefully underwritten as a DMs tool. Things like spelljammer make you wonder why it was published at all with the amount of work it gives to the DM.

Summer Tribe

this reads like the 2024 rules, am I correct?

Summer Tribe

a lot of the rules are quite ambiguous (there's a reason SAC exists, errata exists, and there are still disagreements between the designers about things like where you are when you're mounted), but I agree with you nonetheless. it gets tiresome when they just can't be fucked to finish reading a spell description

Summer Tribe

I really gotta disagree that it's good at the player entry level, I mean I don't think any new player understood the stealth rules since they're essentially edited out over 3 separate chapters for some reason. it's like fine at best, 3.5 was easier to get into (illustrated diagrams of play as well as written out scenarios detailing it, why don't we have examples in 5e?????). the one thing 5e does best for new players is be popular enough to find a playgroup. There are tons of lightweight systems out there that I really think new TTRPG players should be playing instead. But i do agree that DMs tools are the most wanting. Most of 5e's modules are so lacking in detail that I wonder why they even bother writing a book more than 30 pages (other than money). Trying to run Strixhaven: Curriculum of Chaos is rough, I don't know why it's so beyond them to write adventures that are more of a plug and play experience

a big squid

coming to these a few weeks late but commenting as a Montrealer, while yes cheese curds are the official cheese for a classic poutine, i have made a poutine with any cheese or gravy on hand. the soul of a poutine is the elements, not the vessels they take. plus like every novelty poutine shop sells varieties with different toppings piled on top of the cheese/gravy, so tex mex poutine is absolutely real and valid. Also bring NADDPOD to Montreal so emily can have poutine!!!!

vrtx

Fellow MTL-er here! There’s def a few poutine options (check out the menu from Chez Claudette near laurier!), but tex mex sounds amazing! PS I really want them to come too! Maybe Just for Laughs could get them in!