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Tortle Tank: Tortle Tank Continued (Patreon)

Published:
2022-08-05 21:30:42
Edited:
2023-05-26 19:53:39
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2026-06
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The Tortles are still in The Tank! The Wise Tortles plus shellebrity guest Jasper William Cartwright (3 Black Halflings) continue to review your homebrew pitches! And also we can't stop chuck-checking.

Production and Editing by Trevor Lyon

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Lilybet Gates

Omg yesssss ss Stormlight reference!!!

Jackson Roth

"Shellooooo, is it meeeee you're lookin for" my favorite line of 2023 🤣

Ben

STORMLIGHT ARCHIVE MENTIONED RAAAAA 🔥🔥🔥

Blue Bee

Emily bringing up star wars 5e in this ep just made me sad that they didn't use Starfinder for Starstruck Odyssey again

EggBilly

Using your offspring as a bartering system is insane. I love it.

Ro Si

Cowabunga it is

Declan Konesky

I think the reason I like the simpler systems so much is that you just simply don't need to roll for good roleplay. Like if you're rolling it's dangerous. I kind of always hated moments that someone says they do something so obvious and dms then require a roll. As a game it's more about player intelligence than character intelligence Pathfinder is a nice alternative to 3.5 also. It streamlined that. But B/X is probably the best. Everything up through 2e is pretty similar when you leave off the optional rules.

Mattie Honda

AHHHHHHHHHHHthanksforreadingmine<3HHHHHHHHHHH

BassToad

The thing Jasper mentioned (using different abilities for skills checks) is in the Players Hand Book. It's a variant rule but it does exist!

Anthony Abreu

Boy would I love to hear Murph and the others talk more about stormlight archive or the cosmere in general Also that episode was dope as hell. I always think of a single comment i think worth sharing and forget how weird it looks to see a loose comment requesting something with no reference to what they heard...

Alex W

I accept my fate in the hostile takeover, I hope that I don’t get slowly pushed out over time. Also shout out Three Body Problem, great book! It’s where I learned about the three body problem and got super interested in it

Allan Levy

We still need that critter country update though!!

thiswayjose

Loved the person who just pitched a fully new game. Loved it.

Solomon Korringa

Can’t you already sub skill bases for your proficiencies if it makes sense (eg. str intimidation)? I could be wrong but I thought this was already in the rules. Love the content!

Mama Hot Tomato

Jake, I accept your offer to replace you as CEO of HeadGum. Have the keys to the company scooter on your - sorry, my - desk by 9 am EST on Monday.

Steven S

The skill redux reminds me of how Elder Scrolls games went from having 8 attributes and 27 skills in Morrowind to 21 skills in Oblivion to no attributes and 18 skills in Skyrim. The simpler system is more approachable for new players but a bit of flavor or personality is lost when you give up the complexity

Steven S

Is it the one by Cixin Liu? I'm about to check out the audiobook for it

Travis Perkins

yeah something like advanced 5e or 5.5 would be a welcome change

Dorothy Cooper

Yeah I was coming here to say that isn't even homebrew it's a rule variant for exactly the reason they mentioned

Garrett Morrow

Not every Barbarian has low Charisma!

Janaga

Yup, it is in the Ability Checks section of phb chapter 7: Using Ability Scores as a variant rule. In fact the exact situation they brought up of a barbarian using Str for intimidation is one of the examples given

NoShitSherlock

For the Adrenaline shot homebrew, that HP boost has GOTTA scale imo. I like to think back to any fight I've seen from any dnd show with PC's above level 10 where 20hp wouldn't be enough. Other than that, I'm fully ripping the "Decaying Death Saves" thing...

Nour

I think having the DM give inspiration and/or advantage in certain situations can help with the lack of nuance in 5e's skill checks! If your barbarian has low charisma but is in a situation where they should be someone people listen to, the DM giving you a d8 of inspiration can really boost your roll and account for that situational exception.

J. Marshall Smith

I definitely feel the desire for more variety in attributes. In the game I wrote there are 9 different attributes and the stuff that Charisma is burdened with in D&D is covered by Charm, Cunning, Spirit, and Threat.

Decker Ames

Humming your own outros made me chortle😂

Randy

Jake and Jasper are Drift Compatible confirmed

The Diced Apple

This is awesome. Love the turtle tank. Jasper is a real cool turdude

Matthew Nardozza

I second Pathfinder, if you want to recapture the feel of 3.5 but with a LOT of the little dead levels and wonky rules streamlined. Now If you wanna get a really crunchy game, look at some d% games, like the Fallout PnP.

aiyana graham art

I think the cover your party member mechanic would also make more sense if its something everyone can have as opposed to just the barbarian/fighter. otherwise, like they were saying, it makes more sense to use the sw5e

Brian Tatosky

Another awesome concept that could probably be a podcast all on its own. Thanks NADDPOD crew

DT

I’m pretty sure the DMs guide says that players can use an alternative stat for a roll. I think the example given is a barbarian using strength for an intimidation. It is addressed in the guide RAW. Edit: it is actually the PHB page 175.

Bent Vent

If you want to go to 3.5, you really, really ought to just head over to Pathfinder. It's a rebalanced (and still supported) offshoot of 3.5 that had its heyday when 4e shat the bed. It has all the crunch of 3.5, but fixes most of the WILDLY broken combos (look up "locate city nuke"). It's lovingly referred to as "D&D 3.75" and is definitely, DEFINITELY a cleaner player and DM experience.

Unloved

AD&D 2nd ed had an add-on called skills and powers I think that actually split the main stats into 2 sub stats. So for charisma it was split into looks and personality. One could be higher than the other, so you could be beautiful in looks but very poor in talking to people. It was interesting

Ted Orbach

Would love to hear y'all play 3.5! I have always wanted to try it out so that might push me over the edge

Lorne Mintz

I await the recipe to Balnor’s Tuna Sandwich.

Summer Tribe

not only is it in the PHB but it's used in at least Wild Beyond the Witchlight. there's a wis (stealth) check for hiding. I hate that people don't use variant skill checks. or tool checks at all it seems

Summer Tribe

it just reminds me of using other systems

Summer Tribe

god I miss ADnD attribute charts, tho Open Doors on the strength chart sort of implied every door in the world is the exact same

Garga Lenoir

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, if they want to keep things crunchy like 3.5 Pathfinder is the way to go.

Declan Konesky

It really is a great system. I just don't know that as a game I could go back to it. Everytime I look into playing again I just get a little nauseous. At least there is (or was) a good online SRD for it so you never needed books

Declan Konesky

I should also revise my previous statement about 'best' bc truly I believe 5e is actually the best edition of DND. It's hackable easy enough to make it deadly, just remove death saves, etc and has all the benefits of modern game design to actually make it not a slog like older editions or too whatever it is about Old School that ppl don't like. I also love that 5e doubles dice for crits and not static numbers. The static number bonuses for these editions are too ridiculous. The crit fishing. The skill bonuses you auto get for having one rank in a skill. I DO miss prestige classes but I love that 5e made the popular ones into solid archetypes. I just hate they nerfed the ones I loved like Horizon Walker or the ranger rogue skirmisher build. That said. If ppl are interested in AD&D, B/X, BECMI, or any OSR style I just love Old School Essentials advanced bc it puts the AD&D flavor and some of the other options in line w B/X. And to last ditch pitch it all is that the selling point of OSR style games is that the answers are not necessarily on your sheet. Magic items give you special abilities and flavor as opposed to a skill/build tree. Lastly. I do miss theorycrafting 3.5 characters for the heck of it

Will J

Loved the Stormlight shout!! Woo!!!

Peter S.

PSA: swapping abilities for skills check is not homebrew, it’s in the players handbook. I also hope naddpod won’t switch to 3.5, I played it and I remember it overly complicated, it’d be hard to follow. Complexity usually caters for lack of creativity of the table, which clearly isn’t a problem for the podcast!

Andrew

Pathfinder 2e!!!! It’s 3.5 with refinements and balance updats

Tegan J Gaming

Loved the SW5e shout outs in this episode guys!

Nathaniel Thomas

I think I remember reading something about a new "tragedy bard" subclass that has a last stand feature

Vie.

Y'all should play pathfinder, absolutely nuts on skills feats and customization and CRUNCH

A Tiny Living Room

It's been mentioned that swapping abilities for skills is RAW, but also if you want a bit more nuance (like the Moonshine / Crick example) just give proficiency to specific checks when it makes sense. If they have proficiency perhaps double it for that check. So for the Moonshine example you could give her proficiency in persuasion (or even expertise) and swap Wisdom for Charisma (if say she's using her understanding of the world or something)

Gearbox

Is the weather table even homebrew? I feel like I've seen a chart about it in the DMG, and it's certainly already a part of the "Tomb of Annihilation" module.