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SUFFERING / DIFFERENT BEAST [UNEDITED] (Patreon)

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2024-07-04 12:01:00
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2025-10-27 17:50:03
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Emsiron

SUNDER THAGA

Lyann Wolfgang

The first thing I noticed is how there's no viola; like, ayo that's not Penelope, and the fact it's almost acapella really gives you the hint that something's off. And I love that it feels odd but it's honestly such a bop lol What a genius way to make a song about sirens trying to drown you

Liz Lilliman

Omg I was awake passed 12 UK time and didn't realize. I think this is another god. Don't want to say who in case I'm wrong but I've heard one of the tunes in the 1st saga.

Liz Lilliman

He could of walked or ridden a good majority but Ithaca is a smallish (not too small but not big) island so they would of been a sea fairing nation probably and therefore would have ships but probably not enough livestock to travel the numbers and distance between Ithaca and troy.

Michelle Schaefer

Suffering: The reaction after "The things I do for you" had me laughing like crazy. Also you picking up on the "mermaid like whispers" in the literal siren song makes me so happy. Sir, don't hate on Prophet Caspar. True prophet. Let's start a religion, right now. "So that's the ugly ocean bitch!" - nice quote You hear the piano of Athena because Odysseus is being a Warrior of the Mind. The choir theory makes sense with what you know but it's not a godly choir but the other sirens. Also "He will chase you high and low, so find a place he'd never go. The one way you'll get home is sailing where he's scared to go. The lair of Scylla." is the same melody as "He will burn your house and home and find you wherever you go. The gods will make him know. This is the will of the gods." in The Horse and Infant. I hadn't made the connection to Polyphemus but damn that's true.

Liz Lilliman

Was just checking one thing as I remembered it from 20+ years ago when I did classical studies at school. In the book odysseus instructs the crew to tie him to the mast and for them to plug their ears with beeswax as Odysseus wants to hear their song.

Dorothy Rosenberg

Hate to bring this up again, but you have just made another correct prediction.

Michelle Schaefer

Different Beast: That whole first part, the realisation of going from "What's going on?" to "Damn Odysseus!" was very relatable. Polites would be so heartbroken seeing him like this. "Where'd they get beeswax from?" Candles? Maybe? But I had that same question Loved the explanation of the Siren's voices not sounding smooth. Makes loads of sense!

Doriima

I guess no danger motif because Odysseus never feels like there is any danger.

Kathrine0114

This Odysseus honestly scares me. 😅 Cause if he just killed the sirens, okay, yeah, fair enough. But "cut off their tails, throw them back in the water, let them drown"? Dude that is HORRIFYING. Cruel. He really said Ruthless Monster, huh. O-O The way you can hear them screaming...

draeonic 🪼

Super cruel, but also kind of dumb. How does he know for sure they'll drown without their tails? What if he's just maimed and pissed off more monsters?

draeonic 🪼

Casper's prophecy is a part-time thing. Sometimes we get super specific accidental predictions, sometimes it's Wet Hades or Lady Poseidon :D

Kathrine0114

Yeah, but isn’t that almost worse? Cause they might not even die. They might be forever stuck laying on the bottom of the ocean floor, unable to move, hunt, anything. If they don’t drown, they will starve. Reminds me of throwing sharks back into the water after cutting off their fins, cause they need to swim to filter the air into their gills (or something like that), so if they cannot swim they drown. Which is just…😬 Also, this will probably ALSO piss Poseidon off😅

MsPurpleDancer

they can't swim without their tails. Maybe the tails are the only fish part of them and the other half is human? Similar to how dolphins have to come up for air every once in a while.

TheBookWyrm

I was SO confused at first during the first song 😂 It was so different from what I was expecting, but I think the first two songs did a really good job of opening the new saga and being engaging. I did think it was interesting that Jorge chose to use the modern interpretation of sirens- as you might remember from Percy Jackson, Greek sirens are more like harpies than mermaids. Thanks for being so dedicated and getting these out so fast!

Justin Fralin

Demon King Ody is that guy... damn.

Colin Fontenot

Ithaca is an island so Odysseus has to sail to get home.

Jacob Minger

I think it’s hilarious how Jorge told us all that the sirens wouldn’t be in Epic. That LIAR 🤥 LOL

Minimal

THUNDER SAGA THUNDER SAGA THUNDER SAGA I also told Mortius this, but you know how you reacted to gigi’s animatics for the first two songs of the Troy Saga and the last song of the Underworld Saga, literally starting off and ending Act 1 with her? And how you’ve expressed wanting to end Act 2 with gigi? Well, why not also start off Act 2 with gigi as well because she is immediately working on an animatic for both Suffering and Different Beast in one video! Just saying for when you finally react to animatics with Mortius :D

draeonic 🪼

??? Humans can swim tho? how does them only having a (possibly) human half mean they'll just drown?

MsPurpleDancer

that and there was only women singing the penelope part at the beginning. Normally it's a male emsemble or Ody singing it. There's also the electric tones in the beginning as well. Jorge said that if it's more electric or synth-like, the more godlike or mythical the creature is, which is what we heard with the other gods and Circe.

MsPurpleDancer

Humans can swim with both arms and legs. There's also the fact of maybe the sirens won't know how to swim with just their arms, like how people who have amputations have to learn though physical therapy. Most likely their sirens won't leave long enough to learn and would eventually get fatigued and drown anyway. Plus the cut sirens are leaking blood into the water, this is from the livestream, so it will attract predators. So they would even die by drowning or by predators attracted to their blood.

Ryan Ratchford

The mad man has done it again! You've said ANOTHER future saga song title as you speak hahaha

MildlyPerturbed

Anna Lea is both the sirens and Penelope!

MildlyPerturbed

Troy was thought to be near Turkey, whereas Ithaca was in Greece. A normal trip by water would have taken two weeks. They could have gone by land, but imagine if Poseidon sent a stampede of Horses after him haha (since Poseidon is also the god of Horses and Earthquakes).

MildlyPerturbed

There’s no violas for Penelope! I knew it couldn’t be her since they weren’t in suffering.

Malie AgentKR

I’M CRYING, CALLING SCYLLA THE UGLY OCEAN B*TCH 😭 Ruthless…ness *laugh track* Also, saying it’s Poseidon trying to get him in the water makes me want an animatic of some kind where Poseidon puts on a beautiful flowing wig and starts singing to imitate Penelope and lure Odysseus in (the effectiveness of the disguise is up to interpretation 😆)

jayden_arsonew

I FUCKING LOVE SUFFERING IVE LOVED IT SINCE 2021 THERES A SNIPPET AND HE NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT AGAIN I THOUGHT HE CUT IT AAAAAAHHHHH

jayden_arsonew

Annas voice is so gorgeous shes gotta be my favourite, sorry polites lol

jayden_arsonew

the melody at the beginning is penelopes motif, and theres no danger motif bc ody knows hes in danger, at least thats how i interpreted it

AstralAegis

So, in the original Odyssey, Circe is the one that tells him the way home, not the sirens. Therefore he has the foresight to prepare beeswax. For Epic, I imagine this is just handwaved as ship supplies they have on hand.

Jason Ringhofer

“These sirens saying get in the water” Meanwhile me: *Internally freaking out*

Ash Nelson

Ithica was an island though, so they would have had to travel by boat at some point sadly. Would have been so close but so far.

MildlyPerturbed

Oh it completely slipped my mind that Ithaca is on an Island. Regardless it would have been faster by ship than land anyway

Hootie

Same Jason, same xD

Darkendreign

thundersagathundersagathundersagathundersaga... :D

EepLeep

I personally think that the danger motif isn't in these songs because Odysseus is the danger

Lmb111514

I was thinking for like making candles or something or just the only wax they had on hand...

AstralAegis

He is the one who knocks

Mager

My prophecies are vague, but you can get in the water

Felicity McDonald

Your expressions during your first listen through of Different Beast were utterly hilarious and very relatable 😂

Felicity McDonald

Also I had the same question about the beeswax, but someone told me that apparently beeswax was often used in ancient times to waterproof ships, so I guess they would've have extra on board!

Jeremy Phillips

It's sad that he didn't watch the livestream, the videos/text information on screen was very pivotal in understanding some of the minor details happening in the scenes...

MildlyPerturbed

Has Mortius reacted to the Thunder Saga yet? I can't seem to find his reaction, and I'm already an Ediety Knot tier on his patreon.

draeonic 🪼

It is absolutely possible to keep yourselves from drowning for a time with only arms, we don't know siren biology and predators weren't mentioned. Admittedly their chances for survival with a cut tail are low, but that's still not one I would take. Especially right after an entire act dedicated to how leaving an opponent maimed but alive was a very bad idea indeed

Felicity McDonald

I listened to the audio early too (I'm Australian so I had access to it a full 12 hours before the stream began) but I then also joined the livestream, and I'm glad I did both honestly

Oceanna Denham

I just realize that in the beginning of Different Beasts, the shot like noise is exactly like the one in the beginning of Polyphemus when they shot the sheep

Oceanna Denham

I realize that in Different Beasts, when the crew sings "Woah Odysseus", it's almost or exactly the same as when they sang "Woah" in the background of Remember Them if you listen closely

William Watson

They should have cuz apparently this crew is always starving! They do know you can eat fish, right?!

Jayie

Even if they don’t drown, or just straight-up bleed out from having half their dang body cut off, they’d be pretty helpless without their tails to propel in the water I’d assume. Then again, magic rules, who the hell knows. XD