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Alright, let's have the Love House clear up this disagreement.

Is the move that the Snake Guy did, diving over the line to block the line judge's view, cheating or not? Adam and I had very different thoughts about this...

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Volleyball Couple Reaction to Haikyu!! OVA 4: "The Path of the Ball"

Professional volleyball player and World Champion Sarah Pavan shares her love of Haikyu!! with her husband/coach and former volleyball athlete, Adam. Edited by: Lydia Xu Source Materials: "The Path of the Ball." Haikyu: 4th Season. Writ. Taku Kishimoto, Dir. Masako Satō, Sentai Filmworks, 2020. ☆ SUBSCRIBE ☆ http://youtube.com/c/SarahPavanVolleyball?sub_confirmation=1 ↓ WATCH NEXT ↓ HAIKYU!! REACTION PLAYLIST!: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLphzTUGYzuZIZqWcWC4ANuJNw-mGxECHf HAIKYU!! ANALYSIS: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLphzTUGYzuZK3g8txM2ROtNDTn6WkHTQS ORIGINAL PATH OF THE BALL REACTION: https://youtu.be/tQ1EA3e9kZs WATCH MORE ANIME WITH ME: youtube.com/@UCEl2bW3KPG5t326im2aV1AQ ☆ FOLLOW ME AT: ☆ Patreon: http://patreon.com/SarahPavan Blog: http://sarahpavan.com Instagram: http://instagram.com/sarah_pavan TikTok: http://tiktok.com/@sarah_pavan Facebook: http://facebook.com/SarahPavanOfficial Twitter: http://twitter.com/SarahPavan ✧ ✧ ✧ ✧ ✧ Sarah Pavan is a Canadian beach volleyball Olympian and World Champion. She is the 3-time FIVB World Tour Best Blocker, and one half of 2019’s Most Outstanding Team. Before playing beach volleyball, Sarah Pavan was one of the world’s top indoor volleyball players. She had an impressive professional career in Italy, Brazil, South Korea, and China, and represented the Canadian Indoor National Team. On this channel, Sarah shares everything you want to know about volleyball, from beginner skills all the way to the more advanced levels. You can find volleyball drills, how-to skill technique, sport-specific strength and conditioning exercises, strategy, and more. This is a great place to learn about volleyball from someone who has played at the highest levels in the world, both indoor and on the sand.

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Lixien

I think they are. They're taking advantage of the rules, period. The point of this team was always: "yeah they do some dirty stuff, but they still got there because they are skillful" in the manga, Kuroo defends them when they were being badmouthed by other people for playing dirty.

AustinMyB

Ok I'm only partway through but I'm crying laughing rn at ya'll roasting the random guy in the crowd who's foot got stepped on. Ya'll gotta chill on him 😂 Regarding your question on Nohebi...well for me its hard to answer. I come from a basketball background, a sport which has a much different view on fouls and infractions and such that the refs may or may not see. There was this opponent center in our district man I swear he was always throwing elbows and catching our guys, made me bleed once when I caught one on the temple tryna steal the ball. And a lot of the times refs would miss it or deem it marginal and all the time he would deny throwing any intentional bows EVER( like cmon dude)it was very frustrating. But other then that great guy, respectful skilled in everything else on the court, great athlete I didn't hate him. I even talked with him and his family after a game a couple times, good folk. I think he may genuinely just seen it as a way to win never trying to be malicious, so he didn't think it was intentional. At the end of the day my mentality was the score at the end is the answer to any and all questions or gripes so I put my head down and focused on trying to win. I gotta say I don't dislike Suguru(snake guy) either he has a tenacity and dedication to winning. Now am I nominating him for any sportsmanship awards heck no. He's no sweetheart but what I can say is I think he loves volleyball. So I think I'm leaning a bit more Adams way here.

Lauren

I'm Team Adam for this. It's not breaking the rules so it's not cheating. Is it in the spirit of fair play? No. But the same could be said on Sarah's example. Everyone's got their own line somewhere which is why we have rules because people don't agree on the subjective. I used to fence and the admonishment my coach used to give that stuck with me is "get good enough that every point you score is so clean that there's never a debate". Instead of relying on someone else's bottom line to align with my bottom line, rely on overwhelming skill.

AnNaNN

In the manga Kuroo defends Nohebi when audience bad mouthing them, both teams, especially the captains, respects each others and are good rivals/friends. I really hope you guys can read the manga of this match, it shows way more about Nekoma and Nohebi

Ayan

that comparison between kuroo and oikawa's cockiness is interesting because i think it's more about their leadership styles as opposed to cockiness. yeah, oikawa would never get chummy with his competition but it wouldn't be simply because he wants to gatekeep his technique but also out of consideration for his own team's odds later down the line. sure, he didn't help out kageyama back in middle school but that's because he had hang-ups about kageyama specifically. i highly doubt he spent his time at seijoh blowing off yahaba and the other setters on the bench if they asked him for tips to improve. his cockiness for the most part is just an act because of how insecure he truly is, but having him act that way can be seen as an extension of his leadership as it gives confidence to his teammates and freaks out the competition so it's all good. kuroo's cockiness is also more of an act just because he finds riling other people up funny. however, kuroo without a doubt is the most emotionally intelligent captain in the entire series. i'm glad sarah mentioned how zen shibayama is and how he has that breathing technique down, because in a scene from the manga that they cut in the anime, kuroo is the one to remind him he needs to breath! but his leadership and people skills extend beyond his own team or even volleyball. kenma never had a friend until kuroo came along, and as we briefly see in season 1 when we meet nekoma for the first time, spent months and years to make the team more comfortable for kenma and center around him. and he managed to do it in a way where the whole team was just cool with it! i mean look at how much they all love kenma haha. he also spent the training camp getting through to tsukki, a feat not even daichi could accomplish. truly, if you were to rewatch or reread the series with a close eye it becomes clear how no other captain comes close to him in leadership skills, he's beyond amazing. when it comes to true, unabashed cockiness though, i can't wait to see how adam is gonna react to a certain character in the future lol

Who Really Cares

I don't think Oikawa would specifically not teach/help younger players so that he could beat them later. He had insecurity issues in middle school with Kageyama and so didn't wanna teach him, but that's an isolated thing. I mean, he even gave Kageyama advice in season 2 (begrudgingly, yes, but still lol). The difference in Kuroo's and Oikawa's cockiness, I think, boils down to Oikawa's being born out of insecurity, and Kuroo's being born out of confidence - but not cockiness - and also more laidback. Almost humourous, not that he's not joking about it; Idk how to put it.

Bogdan Narušavičius

Whatever is not forbidden cannot be considered cheating by definition.

detmetrius demarcus bartolomew james III jr

i still think oikawa giving advice to kageyama(someone he truly considers better than him in skill) giving him insight of wisdom says alot considering all kageyama is really behind in. is the experience that oikawa has. kuro and oikawa's cockiness r different. i think oikawa's stems from insecurity n he tries to hide it with cockiness while kuro is just a confident dude thats more laid back hes a tease, he likes eliciting emotions outta people. Kuro wants to have fun while the sport lasts. Oikawa considers volleyball his life. their approaches are different

JVG

Oikawa loves the game as much as any IMO, and I disagree with the assessment that he isn’t as much of a team player (plenty of evidence to suggest his team love and respect him as much as Kuroo and his teammates). I would say Oikawa is far more competitive and less empathetic to people outside of his team unlike Kuroo, who seems to excel with other members. Also, they have the yearly camp meet-ups with other schools which probably help that side of their social skills. Just my take!

Esquirebob

I simply cannot wait til next week

riddle

I never read the manga, so I'm not sure if this was ever shown or talked about there, and to any manga-readers here, feel free to let me know as long as it isn't a spoiler for anything beyond the first movie. But from the anime, I never got the impression that Oikawa was the type of teammate who wouldn't give tips to his juniors if they needed help learning something. From what we saw in the anime, he wants everybody on his team to be strong and pushes them when he can (like with Kindaichi). Apart from the flashback where Oikawa was having a panic attack when Kageyama went to ask him to teach him how to serve, I kinda took his little antics to be playful and not aggressive based on the tone of his voice. I assumed that their relationship when they were teammates was similar to when in high school, Kageyama went to him for advice when Hinata wanted to learn how to do the freak quick with his eyes open. Where Kageyama would go to him for advice and Oikawa would initially say something like "no I'm not helping you!" but then help him anyway after being asked again (this is my headcanon btw if it wasnt clear). And I feel like this was probably exclusive to just them two and not the rest of his team. The two seem to have a lot of respect for each other so I don't think their relationship was as bad as you guys think it was.

riddle

I am not a volleyball player so I don't know the game the way someone who actually plays the game does. But I find this type of thing to be dirty as well.. I would consider it cheating because I feel like this is more of an integrity type of thing on the player's part rather than a ref simply missing something ? He knows it's in but he's calling it out and blocking the view knowing he wouldn't be able to reach it. He's actively doing something to change the outcome, so to me that's cheating, and I would be really annoyed by that.

Julia

Guys stop making so many long comments, it's taking a while to read and like them all....

Layla123

Yeah, Oikawa pushing Kindaichi and also urging Makki to improve his serve, pushing Kunimi to play to his strengths, taking it as a personal challenge to make Mad Dog score - I also feel like he really does want his team to succeed. I love that S2 bonus scene because it shows that Seijoh knows what Oikawa really feels beneath all that bluster, and they treat him in a way that matches his playfulness. He unfortunately never really got the chance to experience that with Kageyama in middle school, but as you pointed out he doesn't completely push Kageyama away or give him the wrong advice when it comes to Hinata.