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Song Demo: Early Days (Patreon)

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Hey gang, due to your positive response to some previous demos (and insightful feedback!) I've decided to most more "rougher" stuff on here. This one I wrote a while back. I think this one has a more cohesive feel/lyric combo than my usual "sad lyrics upbeat vibe" approach. A bit copy-pastey as song demos often are, but I think you'll get the gist!


Lyrics:

I heard you met

Someone new, shit

Wish I could forget

Late night calls and

Shake those walls, then

Do it all again

I don't know why I can't accept it

I don't know why I can't move on

I am ok, but I regret it

Are you sure that it's him you want?


II: Does he make you feel

Like I made you feel

In the early days, early days

Does he make you laugh

Like I made you laugh

In the early days, early days :II


He's your type, true

Swiped you right too

I'm so glad for you

Feel so lame, I

Hear your name, lie

Say I'm flying high


(Pre)


(Chorus)


I don't really wanna kno-o-ow

I don't really wanna kno-o-ow

Cuz no matter what you sa-a-ay

It will fucking hurt me


(Curse)

Comments

Calize

I mean it’s you singing so I’ll listen to it on repeat but it’s not my thing… I feel like it’s not uptempo but it also doesn’t feel ballad-y enough? It might just be the production

Helga 🦊

I can’t listen now but reading the lyrics itself made me to be very eager to check this demo as soon as I can 😁

Ave Castruita

I like the not so usual phrasing (?)... It kinda makes you pay attention. Lyrics not my fav but that's just me.

Airyckah Lane

The “I don’t really wanna know” that you have listed as chorus.. bridge maybe… I feel like that would be amazing if started the way you have it but then build in intensity and layers before it drops off And other than the annunciation switching from chopped off and slurred.. like you’re still learning the song (which you probably are)… this was head bobbing worth… even my daughter liked it.

Carol Caires

Interesting. IMO, these lyrics and melodies would fit very well in kinda of a angry, pop punk-y arrangement. Like what Louis Tomlinson did on his latest album, for example. Do you have any plans on doing something along these lines?

Cas

I like the vibe and quiet thoughtfulness. Melody isn't too memorable to me. Phil Collins double chorus sounds a little bit lazy but maybe you will make the repeat a bit more amped up in the production. Also appreciate the typo that says "curse" instead of chorus in the final chorus :D

Franceska

Absolutely love the vibe, the lyrics and your singing

Melinda Young

Has a lot of potential. I like it.

CK DeP

I really dig this song Joel, even though when you said it was from awhile back it sounds so amazing, loving those vocals , beats, etc and your swearing lol hehehe. Really enjoy the storytelling. Is this going to be up on Spotify or on ur EP or just leave it on here on Patreon? Btws, how's your EP coming along, can you maybe give us a hint on when it's coming out? Maybe also what gives can we expect form this EP? Is it going to be more emotional, energetic or chill vibes? @Roomie

Dannielle O'Neill

#SadBoyHours 🥺😢 For real though, I think the vibe matches the lyrics well. I like this a lot bc it's just your voice without all the effects and such. More raw and personal. It just feels more authentic. Don't mess with that, please. If I had anything to say in the "don't love it"... The "swipe right" makes me cringe a little. Probably the boomer in me, but that kinda stuff feels like it won't age well. The "I don't really want to know" section is a little too samey. Not totally on the nose, just maybe a shift between the first and the "say" would keep me interested there. All of that said, I DO like most of it. Would love to see where that would go.

CK DeP
>>101396845

I was just thinking the same thing haha I was like what , was that part of the lyrics of him saying the word "curse" haha possibly an typo lol

CK DeP
>>101396400

I feel the same way too! I can relate to most lyrics of this song and such.🙂👍💗

Sugary Magnolia

I LOVE IT! I really like simpler arrangements without too much filler. "Does he make you feel, like I made you feel.... etc" absolutely love that melody. One listen and it's pleasantly stuck in my head. Not every song needs to be full of layers and synth and other effects. Simplicity can be beautiful. I'd love to hear this one finished - it would definitely end up on repeat! More variety equals a well-rounded album you can listen to without skipping songs. Really loving this one, Joel, thanks for sharing it!

Hayley

Hmm, to be honest I wasn't sure at first... The first verse is a bit 'stoppy-starty' (copy-pastey?) The lyrics are great 👍🏼 but I'm not sure how well that melody works tbh... The further into the song you get the better it flows so maybe that first part just needs cleaning up a bit..? That 'I don't want to know' part is very you- like, that's my boii! Love the overall vibe and the lyrics are very relatable. Definitely would like to hear more of this one xx

Becky Lorion

Lots of potential and I like the change up here. Like you said, you usually do lyrics that are on the sadder side but with upbeat groovy music. This would be great as just a straight up sad song though, we all need to indulge ourselves in that once and a while!

emy

Agree that the chorus is instantly memorable. I love that pattern in the low percussion. The melodic shapes are so similar between the pre-chorus and the chorus, maybe there’s an opportunity for some variation in there? If not melody, maybe phrase length. A few longer phrases leading up to the chorus might make a cool build? maybe you already have bigbrain production thoughts for how you'd vary those sections. Thanks for posting rough stuff for us, it’s very cool to hear 😎 ETA: Even though it’s a nice rhyme, I tripped over “feel so lame". The whole song paints a picture of what the singer’s going through in realizing this awful stuff - and the feeling that comes across is so much stronger than lame, it’s a gut punch, to me lame doesn’t do the moment justice. …I guess I wonder if it might be worth sacrificing the rhyme. ps. sorry so long, I'll try to limit my comments to "👍" on the next one, lol

Mari

👏 This 👏 is 👏 what 👏 I'm 👏 talking 👏 about 👏 I'm hella vibing with this one. I think it could maybe be a little faster, vocally? (I know I'm totally Goldilocks-ing you rn 🐻🥣) It feels a bit slow with the singing. I don't know if I'm making sense, but it feels like it could flow better if you figure out the rhythm with the lyrics. I definitely am on team less is more with the vocals and love the rawness of your voice in this one 💛

Hayley
>>101398243

Also wanted to add that I'm not usually a fan of swearing in songs (not that I'm offended, I mean, I have a real dirty mouth myself) I just feel like it can 'cheapen' a song a bit but these swears are justified and totally work in this one 😉

Hayley
>>101396845

I thought it was a cross between Chorus and Verse. Either that or Joel was just going to go on a huge sweary rant 😂

Cas
>>101396845

He would have written that out tho. He isn't coy with the swears!

CK DeP

Even tho you say that it's (copy- pastey) type of vibes I love this tho idc what the vibes are, this song feels right to me coz I've been there (if you can relate with bad relationships or so) so in this situation of this song contexts " it'll Fucking hurt me" that lyric line hurts me also I can relate it and can feel that emotion in your voice when you singing/saying it. And "I am ok ,but I regret it , does he feel like I made you feel make u laugh, like I made u laugh , I don't why can't accept it ,I don't know why I can't move on" - all related to my "bad relationships in past" also sometimes with family when I sometimes I argue with my parents about something usually stupid lol Or even some of my friends too but mostly my "past bad relationships" Overall I can definitely agree with this song the mostest out of your songs , it hits harder and hurts more than other for me imo coz of my own personal experiences or perspectives, etc. Thanks sm for sharing these amazing demos, etc with us Joel Will this song be only on here on Patreon or on Spotify or on ur EP? @Roomie

loonylovesgood

Well, I like the chorus. I’m not yet sure about the verses or the bridge, but I’ll be interested to see where it goes.

loonylovesgood
>>101398243

Yeah, the verse is odd to me. It’s just maybe not my style. I do like the chorus, though!

Annelies

My heart almost broke when I read the lyrics, (before I listened to the song). I love the chorus, but I'm not convinced of the verses yet. I think some dynamics are missing in the verses to create the right vibe for me, but that may be because of the early stage of song 😉

xtina 🖤

I love it. Chorus and ending are already stuck in my head in a good way :). Only critique is maybe speed up the tempo a little bit to be a little less sleepy, but it’s great! You have so many good ones- I know ya said EP but do you think you have enough for a full album? Or do you think EP first then some singles?

Sarah

I like this a lot! I like that there aren't so many high notes in comparison to what you've shared before.

Clair (Teampanda)

I really like this it's something a lot of people can relate to. The "I don't wanna know" is hella catchy and could easily be put towards the beginning of the song as a lead in to the verse. The tinder swipe right is clever but needs something more extra to go in the verse with it. Just making things up..... "Our future wasn't bright so, You found someone else to swipe right, He's your type and I can tell by the way he looks at you, That you have no regrets but I do. It's kinda lame when all I hear is your name, I need to move on, Find a better me so I can forget you. I don't know maybe I'm wrong but they just need padding without being too samey and I'm no expert just a thought. X

Bookdragon 43

Love this song!! Feeling all the emotions in this song.💓👏👍

Jessi

I'm getting a mid 2000s pop punk feel from this, and I'm getting major nostalgic vibes from it that I'm not hating. I'm liking the stripped down-ness of it and interested to see what you would do with this going forward.

Melanie Y

I really like the slower vibe of this song...

BellatrixBerghult

Can I be completely honest? When you use the 2 curse words, they literally don't fit. They sound off... Just my humble opinion as a lover of music ,and a crazy fan of a certain dude named Joel 🙂

Lianne Conroy

I usually have to listen to a song a few times before I like it but this song I actually really liked this the first time. We all know Joel loves his gang vocals but I really like it just simple one vocal on this song it sounds really good and I love the pronunciations. It's a demo so it obviously need some production stuff but I really love it

Helga 🦊
>>101396298

I’ve listened to the song couple times and here are the things that I definitely like: simple (not layered or with lots of high notes) singing but very emotional at the same time (it just sets the vibe of the song to me and helps me feel it aka makes it relatable for me), 1st verse and “does he make you feel…” part. Things that I didn’t like are 2nd verse (lyrics wise), and “shit”, “fucking” (not fitting the vibe imho). Overall I’d like to see this demo to become the finished song and I think I may add it to my playlist of favourites. Thank you for sharing and taking time to read the comment.

Magdalena Slodczyk

Ig I'll be in the contrary and say that I'm not really vibing that much to this one. Not sure what it is exactly tho 🤔 Definitely "fucking" at the end kinda ruins the *chill* vibe of still sad song. Pure melody wise it seems good, I could probably vibe to it at late nights or something. But when it comes to lyrics I'm totally not into such "love hurts" type of songs (especially pop) and they just turn me into a grumpy, edgy teenager 😅 Ig it's just too specific to me and I can't really resonate with it (and I might be also tired of all the love/breakup songs there are, sorry 🙏) But I am still curious how it could sound like, when finished.

Andrea mills

I fucking love it Joel. Very catchy.

Jen 🦙

I like that it's chill with relatable lyrics, definitely could see myself switching it on in the background after a long day. I would need to be in a certain mood to actively seek it out though but that's just down to personal preference and I'm still intrigued to see where you would want to take the song next! 🙂

CK DeP

I'm literally hooked on this song , idc what anyone says lol haha I mean yeah I get people have their own opinions & etc. But I feel like this one really speaks to me & I actually can relate to it. I'm also thinking of doing a mini cover to this song if that's okay with you Joel. I loving those synthy vibes , beats. Was this all programmed into ur PC or was/is their any actual instruments used in it. Also I just noticed that what's that tiny sound effect at the very end when the song ends there's this sound (hard to even explain it, please tell me I'm not going crazy and other people can hear it too) , what is that noises/sounds at the very end of song like almost as a staticky sound or something lol On another note alot of the lyrics I can really relate to/with & I can feel it very well, very moving , touching for me imo. Some of lyrics that are touching, feel the mostest and can relate to - "does he make u laugh, like I made u laugh, I'm so glad for you, I don't why I can't move on , I am ok , are you sure it's him u want, I don't really knoww Coz no matter what u say, it'll fuckin hurt me!" Amazing job as always Joel! Is this going to become an single or is it going to be on ur EP or Spotify or something or just be only on here on Patreon? @Roomie

CK DeP

What's the chords to this song? I wanna learn how to play it on my keyboard, Guitar & Ukulele. @Roomie

JustSomeJK

Very heartbreaking lyrics and loved hearing your voice like that. I have mentioned this before on some of my cringy simpy comments on some of your YT videos, that u have the kind of a voice that makes u feel the lyrics and that's still true. I think the swipe to right part is clever. I have never been in Tinder, but what I have understood is that it's mostly one night f...stand market, so that makes the lyrics even more sad in a way, if the girl wasted something good because of some possibly not lasting tinder thing... Also makes the brain think about the scenarios behind the story.. or maybe I just have silly overthinking brain that reads too much into things 😅 Anyways, I don't mind the shit and the fucking hurts...I think those fit the mood of the song and kinda reveals the feelings behind the song. Then I have a weird opinion, that u can print to a toilet paper and wipe ur butt with 😁 I kinda liked the lyrics and the music separately 🫣 😅 That music I could use to relax and slow down the heart rate (kinda could use that kind of an instrumental version right now 🤪) and I like the lyrics for dwelling on the sad moments.. But like u said rougher stuff that's unfinished, so I'm looking forward to hearing what kind of stuff u would do to this song and what it ends up sounding like when u are done with it, if that's what u are planning on doing 😊 I hope u are ok and that your family member is doing better 🙂💙

Karmas05

Love it, really love your voice 😍

CK DeP

Does anyone know what the chords to this song is/are? I wanna learn this song on my keyboard, Guitar, Ukelele. & what's the BPM patterns & key signatures? @Roomie

Alle Engdahl

Experiencing second hand heartbreak 💔

Maya

Really love your voice in the chorus.

Brandt

Such a Warm and Cozy song, even with sad lyrics.

x0_Kristin_0x
>>101469533

It's a demo. So no. Just meant for you to enjoy a sneaky listen of something he has up his sleeve.

x0_Kristin_0x

I'm concerned about how much the lyrics in these demo's tell the story of my life.. Lmao.

SpyroShurtagul

This is really nice <3 I'm glad that you are feeling good about our reactions to your demos. Seriously I love hearing your songs. All of them! And this is super nice. Really sad..... But really nice ^_^

Jessistache_73

This one has some powerful lyrics! Very raw and full of pain. The concept reminds me of a song I heard on the radio a lot during the summer I think (can't remember who it's by or even the title lol); I think that speaks to how relatable this song is! If I had to critique it, I would say that the music doesn't seem to fit. Maybe that was intentional. Regardless, this could really shape up to be a compelling song!

Gayle

Powerful, Joel the passion...it grabs and holds. Thank you, I want to say more, but all I feel comfortable saying is I feel your pain. I have been there and done that, for real. I appreciate the clean presentation, again the whole package floats, lit(I guess is better for you to understand). Love this and the vibe for all that you have let us hear. I'll keep saying this, you are incredible and I do love this beautiful music. Please, keep it coming.😘😘😘

PhantomFidget

* Cool Early Days Noises * 🐺🐾