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First off, I wanna apologize to y’all for the art lull lately. June (and May, tbh), were STUPID hectic months for me, and I was often at a loss to find the time and energy to sit down and draw properly. I let June slip right through my fingers without making even a crumb of pride art! 😔 I absolutely should’ve communicated my predicament to y’all, and for that I am sorry. Thanks for sticking around, all. 💗 Fortunately, I’ve made efforts to free up a lot more time for drawing, so here’s to productive days ahead.🥂

Sun’s out means guns out, and fortunately for Iggy, Florida is an open carry state! >:D Unfortunately for everyone else, the glare off their pale undercooked cave dweller skin will surely blind any and all onlookers

I’m kinda ambivalent to Hazbin Hotel and it’s odd pacing decisions, but I am, uh. Genuinely embarrassed how much real estate this stupid tv bastard takes up in my head. Looking at his fuckass design makes me so angery (a supposed modern day tech CEO wearing a top hat, bow tie, coat tails, and big 80s shoulder pads, what??) yet also lights up my autistic brain like a christmas tree. Forgive me father I just might make fanart

Iggy comes out! 🌈 …Again! I tell ya, this recent revelation has been a very freeing one. I’ve always been pretty apathetic about things like romance/datin’/babymakin’, and always found other people odd for making such a big deal out of it. Still, whenever I’ve been approached by a compatible partner, I’ve gone along with it because 1.) I figured that was just what one is supposed to do, and 2.) I liked the person a lot and wished to make them happy, even if it meant contorting myself to better meet their wants and needs. It only recently occurred to me that this is probably not the way typical people go about relationships, and after quite a lot of reading, my label clicked into place. Ya boi is ace! >:D

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Rumpeltyltskyn

Latest Mandela effect just dropped boys, swear you’ve been ace for years

Amanda Stidham

Welcome to the ACE family. We have cookies instead of sex and romance

Calypso

I feel ya! As someone on the ace spectrum, it felt SO good and validating to discover there's a bunch of people out there like me and I am part of that 'normal'. Do you think you might be aro as well?

BraveFoal

Welcome to the ace fam! I had a similar realization in college, when I realized that maybe all the tv shows and movies and romance novels weren’t wildly exaggerating and most people really do want to fuck kind of frequently. I then realized I’d literally never had the urge or really understood why anyone would want to participate in that particular activity (in a non-judgmental way, ya’ll do you and don’t let my yuck your yum). A little bit of googling later and I decided that I was, in fact, probably ace.

lopoddity

Lmao! I think I might’ve been unintentionally putting out ace vibes, considering there's quite a number of aro/ace folk in my audience

lopoddity

In high school, a guy friend of mine tried to kiss me at a school dance, and my kneejerk reaction was to dodge it, matrix-style. And I thought I was being the normal one! More embarrassingly, I remember yet another high school incident where a friend shyly said she had a crush on me, to which my dumb, oblivious ass went "haha, gross", then went back to futzing around on my flip phone. 😖 I 1000% didn't mean to be mean! I genuinely thought she was joking! Because why would anybody ever have a crush on anybody? It took me YEARS to figure out what a dick I'd been! 😭

BraveFoal

I’m sure they forgive you. Everyone’s kind of shitty to one degree or another when they’re young. Mostly unintentionally. I know I’d never sleep again if I let all the things I didn’t mean in a mean way haunt me. Maybe that’s why I’m an insomniac 😳

lopoddity

I'm not sure, tbh. My past self would definitely say they've been in love, but looking back I have no idea how much of my feelings were me just saying/doing what I felt was expected. It's very possible that the warm fuzzies I felt were just a sorta vindicated happiness at being the object of somebody's eye. It's nice to feel chosen and wanted, that feeling can even be addicting. Is that love? What seperates romantic love from platonic love? How does one know that they're in love? I know the cliches from songs and rom-coms (rapid heartbeat, fluttery stomach, etc), but do people actually feel those things irl? I have loved (and love) people very deeply, but more in a "I want to be your most important person/keep you as my most important person" kinda way, not a "I want flowers and chocolate and smooching and sappy wedding vows" kinda way. Is that romantic love? I have no idea!

Gleeman and Artist

One of us! One of us! I'm demisexual. I remember you making pony PB demisexual and I was really excited to see the representation in your art. The autistic brain worms latched on to Hazbin for me to. I think most of the pacing issues stem from Amazon not giving Vivzie enough episodes to do what she wants. They're not nearly as bad in Helluva Boss. :/

Smoldering-ashes

I kind of relate to be honest, as a demi/aspec person who still chews on the idea of sexual art not because it gets my rocks off but because of ~*character building *~ also omfg patreon mobile commenting is A MESS and I’ve accidentally prematurely submitted this comment like 4 times. Truly though we love ya and really don’t mind the lull! Life happens

Rheanna

checking in as a fellow aro-ace audience member who… oddly also thought you’d already come out as ace. Oops?? It makes me think of that scene from Friends where I think somebody was having a baby or started dating and they announced it to the rest of the group and everybody cheered and then went “We already knew that :’D” 🤣

Rumpeltyltskyn

I’m not even ace I just genuinely thought Lop talked about it at some point!

Rumpeltyltskyn

Not to jump in randomly but I just wanted to answer: the heart racing, butterflies, etc. that people describe are real sensations! They’re just the kind of thing usually experienced early in relationships (you’ll usually hear it more with crushes or in the “honeymoon phase”) and usually goes away after a while. It’s not necessarily “love” itself as much as excitement. I’d say it builds toward love (the more content, comfortable feeling that comes later) or a symptom of the early exciting stage of a new relationship.

Jay Martinez

Ace gang, WELCOME FRIEND!!!!! 🖤🩶🤍💜

ElementInfusion

Congrats on figuring yerself out further. It’s always a weird trip to have something click in your mind… I didn’t reach ‘oh… Aromantic is my thing’ til my late 30’s. I had multiple relationships over the course of my teenage and twenties years, and all were nice while they lasted, but I just never really felt that drive or NEED for partner that’s presumably most people have. But also still have full drive libido to deal with. Pansexual Aromantic is a weird ass combination.

Royce and Royce

Okay but what if I forget it’s Art Fight for five minutes and draw Iggy with his tail stripes as the ace flag colors

Calypso

Everyone is different. I've had crushes but they're few and far between. Don't think k I've ever felt butterflies. I'm 29, in a committed relationship now and still occasionally confused on whether I "feel" certain things the same way as others or if something is "correct", but I know I love my partner and I'm learning about myself along the way.

All-Seeing Portrait

Congrats on coming out and no worries about the wait! I figured you were just busy. Also I think it’s very funny that i have multiple friends with neutral to negative opinions on Hazbin Hotel who have proceeded to get OBSESSED obsessed with Vox. And now the cycle continues. What are they putting in that TV

Nyka

Welcome to the ace community!🖤🩶🤍💜Definitely relate to the "I want to be your most important person" as a confusing way to relate to people having crushes. I never really felt the urge to smooch or hold hands or touch people, I was just fixated on wanting to be really really good friends. Then I started dating my partner and I KNOW I am deeply in love with them. That's not a feeling you accident yourself into. For us autistic folks (especially since we're both ace), we don't always know if we love each other the conventional way, but if it works for us, then it works :3

Robo87

HELL YEAH BOI 💜 🖤 🩶 I am *obsessed* with Vox. There are definitely some issues with the show (as with Helluva Boss and do not get me started on my loathing of Stolas) but goddamn if that toxic bisexual tv edge lord villain doesn’t have me in a death grip

LezzyBug

Oh damn, nice gun show! X3c Also welcome to the fixating over a TV head man club (for me, it's Tenna from Deltarune WOOF)

lopoddity

Oh I could write a whole ass novel about the storytelling issues within Hazbin Hotel and Hrlluva Boss. I used to prefer Helluva, but then the Stolas/Blitz romance took over the plot and Iiii kinda lost interest. The writing with Stolas is so frustrating, he could be SUCH a complex, compelling character if the story would stop trying to frame him as a poor helpless soft gay woobie with no agency and just let him be shitty. Flaws make characters interesting! The one time Blitz calls him out for being a selfish condescending classist sex pest, Stolas' response is to cry, and then the show proceeds to frame Blitz as the unjustified aggressor. Like...c'mon. Still! Helluva and Hazbin are both that unfortunate mix of both really good and really bad, and that's a dangerous combo. An inconsistent show will hook it's claws into you far deeper than a good or mediocre show, because it hooks you with it's hype moments and makes you critique it's weaker parts. Hazbin's wack ass writing choices have me gnawing on the bars of my cage. I haven't been this hyperfixated on something in years!

Lammergayier

Hello fellow ace! 🖤🩶🤍💜 Love this community, it's a super accepting place to be ;v; I've bouced around on the ace spectrum quite a lot throughout the course of my transition, it's been quite a journey! I've gone (not necessarily in order) from repulsed to grey to demi to wondering if I was even ace at all, and back again more times than I can count. Transition made things both clearer And more confusing at the same time (they were NOT kidding about the libido increase that happens when you start testosterone. Though in my experience it evens out after a while) and nowadays I generally say that I sit comfortably on the "favorable" end of the spectrum. I enjoy sex as a fun bonding activity™ when the opportunity arises, but rarely do I feel the attraction aspect. It's really cool how many different experiences encompass this spectrum!

DorkRaptor

As a fellow ace, I welcome you! It’s a very accepting group, plus we make the best garlic bread. Truly though, I’m happy for you, that’s a huge revelation and a great self-discovery

MyLittleRosie

This is so real. Love Iggy for this…didn’t know this character’s name was Iggy. I have a trans character named Iggy too! ALSO I have this weird fascination with Stolas from Helluva. I agree that Vivzy’s writing is…interesting but her characters outside of canon are very cool 😎

DragonCookies

Eyyy join the fellow triple A club! As a fellow ace/adhd/autistic (working on getting diagnosed on the last one but I’m def in the ‘pretty dang sure’ category) we welcome you! I greatly enjoy living vicariously through my fav characters navigating romance and parenting over actually doing it myself

Toadboss Ida

Welcome to the ace club from a aro/ace mother of two kids. Never understood attraction and hornyness but hubby is my best friend and I like to make him happy and yeah I love him but it took a while for me to figure it out. Love take a loooong time for me to develop so having kids was wierd. I took care of them ofc but that instinctive motherly love was not there. I felt more love towards my husband seeing him love the baby than the baby itself. I think it took 6 months if not more for me to establish that kind of bond to my kids. Sorry for rambling. I just think it’s fascinating to reflect on being so dysfunctional regarding sex and romance and somehow get it to work anyway 😅

SnakesNSnoodles

Congrats on coming out!!! Welcome to the ace party lol

AsTheJayFlies

jay eaton’s exact stance on project hail mary. interesting but just disappointing enough w the worldbuilding to live annoyingly rent free in their brain when they have a graphic novel to finish drawing

HM Newton

As someone who is prob on the aroace spectrum I've given the whole 'what is romantic love??' question a lot of thought recently. Personally the closest I've come to finding something of an answer was when I had a discussion with a friend who used to think he was ace and realized he wasn't. As he put it, "If it --feels-- correct labeling your feelings as romantic, then it's romantic. If it --feels-- incorrect to, then it's probably not!" He compared it to how you define a friend--if it feels appropriate to call someone your friend, then they're a friend of yours. But if it doesn't feel right, then they're not. Emotions and social frameworks are highly subjective, and like with anything it's up to the individual to see what label or lack thereof works best for them. Two people could even be feeling similar emotions, with one labeling those feelings romantic and the other not, and both of those perspectives are 'valid.'

Lourenzo Dasilva

Vox really embodies the phrase "The worst person you know made a good point". Everything he said about Charlie was true, she was such a dumbass this season

Nyka

I'm here for that essay, your rants are always engaging and fun to read! You've got such a good grasp on character motivations. I can't stop listening to the hazbin soundtrack, even though the show itself is,,,, fine lol

Saba Saeidi

the hazbin tism takes another - *holds a hand out to you* we've been waiting for you

lopoddity

Well you're in luck, I may have some Hazbin doodles/notes/rants incoming >:)

Robo87

It’s so funny my bestie and I will like meticulously tear apart plot points, over shipping, character flaws (Charlie is an altruist narcissist I will die on that hill), and general bitching on how 8 episodes just isn’t enough for the plot or characters…yet we love it. It’s currently our favorite shows. Our favorite things about them? “The vibes”, and “what could have been”

Robo87

One of us, one of us

SmilesPerHour

Aww proud of you Lop/Iggy! Love shouldn’t have to mean hugs and kisses and babies, it can be whatever you want it to be. Be proud, be you! We like you just the way you are

lopoddity

Charlie is less a character and more an underwritten naive moron with a grating amount of toxic positivity and moralism that kinda remind me of a like, an evangelical bible camp youth pastor. But that's not her fault- literally EVERY woman in both of Viv's shows are bafflingly underwritten and neglected by the story at large, and are mostly defined by their relationships with the men of the cast. :( Well except Vaggie, who is defined by her relationship with Charlie. A romance between the daughter of the devil and a fallen exorcist angel should NOT be as boring as it is in the show. So many of Viv's women have such incredible potential to be interesting, but they constantly get sidelined so the males can get more screentime. For example, why does Lucifer's introductory episode focus on his relationship with Alastor, as opposed to Charlie...? Their dynamic is so underexplored that it makes their big sappy reconciliation song feel almost comedically unearned. But! I digress. Charlie's kind of a mess in canon, but I do adore the way fans write and draw her. She is absolutely bursting at the seams with potential, and I'd very much like to know why she is the way that she is (doggedly insistent on helping literal murderers and other sinners), why she came to believe sinners could be saved, how her parents influenced her growing up, what she really thinks about her girlfriend having slaughtered so many of her people (also why did we not get a scene of Lucifer and Vaggi connecting over both being fallen angels? They're literally the only two of their kind!!). Idk how much of this will ever be explored, but a gal can dream. I like Charlie okay, I just wish there was more to her. And that she gets a weird psychosexual situationship with Velvette, since Alastor and Angel have one with Vox and Valentino. For god's sake PLEASE give Velvette something to do besides stare at her phone in every scene!

Robo87

I am chomping at the bit for more Velvette. It’s been heavily implied (practically confirmed) in the finale that she was a witch in her mortal life and I want that explored so badly!!! And not just another “she’s a serial killer” back story like they did with Vox. Idk have her be a wise woman that was betrayed during the witch hunts or something more interesting then “muhaha witch evil poisoned villagers for fun” The wasted potential of Vox NOT being a tv evangelist and instead being like a pre-modern influencer/tv cult/serial killer I’ll never be over We’re in HELL! let’s explore sin and all the shades of grey of it! So far the “big bad” seems to be murder and every main overlord was some sort of serial killer. Let’s get beyond that. Why couldn’t have Vox not killed a single person himself but brainwashed his followers into killing themselves? Or robbed an elderly couple blind because he talked them into joining his cult and the price of that is *everything*. He can still be an evil or sinful person without even physically hurting anyone I *wanted* to love Vaggie/Charlie but omg Vaggie has absolutely no life beyond being the Perfect Supporting Girlfriend, cleaning up Charlie’s messes, and being her emotional support dog. She imprinted on Charlie the second they met. She has no friends, goals or ambitions, or anything that doesn’t revolve around Charlie. I wouldn’t like that in a heterosexual relationship and I don’t like it now

Robo87

Funnily enough, my friend and I also had the conversation about Charlie/Vel!!! Ngl I’m into it lol I really liked Charlie the first season, and went into the second as low key fan of hers After staring at the screen in horror during her speed run to redemption and bulldozing Angel into agreeing to her poorly thought out plan…I changed my mind pretty quick lol Manic episode or not she went past boundaries that were set a long time ago, put her friends in danger in a desperate attempt to prove to everyone she was right, and then later exploded on Vaggie and Lucifer for trying to help her. And I feel like that was sort of brushed under the rug too? Idk I’m with you I love the potential of Charlie and what the fans do with her, but she needs a little redemption herself next season

Must Love Frogs

You can adore a property that’s imperfect. I’ve had to accept that, despite my nostalgic drooling over 80s TMNT, the animation was bad. Just so bad. Most everything about that show was bad, and yet it inspired me greatly at the time, so it did its job. And let’s talk for just a second about TADC. For the most part it’s really interesting, when it’s not focused on Jax and his will they won’t they relationship with being horrible. Which is nearly all the time. Just when other characters are starting to connect and make genuine progress, they have to remember that Jax might want to talk to them (he doesn’t). And not for nothin’, over in Hazbin land, Charlie is the most inconsistent protagonist ever…and yet I still want her to succeed. Also I would fuck Carmilla. With due respect for whose page I’m on, I don’t share the ace and/or aro qualifications. Anyway, apologies for the late reply, I’ve been busy being a randy old butch.

Robo87

I consider myself a sapphic asexual and I would fuck Carmilla from here to Mexico