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SCORIGAMI, PART 3 OF 4. (Patreon)

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It's Jon again! Alex and I have another episode of Scorigami ready for you. We'll drop this episode in YouTube in late September, but y'all get exclusive early access today. (If you need to catch up: Part 1 is here, and Part 2 is here.)

Across nearly an hour of split-screen madness, we'll relive the entire history of the NFL's two-point conversion era with some help from special guest Mina Kimes. We'll also pay tribute to the modern heroes of scorigami: Bobby Hebert, Dwayne Rudd, Trey Junkin, Jeris Pendleton, and Nathan Peterman, the five best and most famous football players of all time.

We'll be back early next month with a super-duper-special series finale that will examine the future of scorigami and venture into the great unknown. That's what football fans crave: the great unknown.

As always, thanks to each and every one of you for subscribing. If you're new here, be sure to look around. Seth and Ryan have a very fun new podcast called Phys Ed. I've also got a four-part documentary series, Fool Time, that will remain a Patreon exclusive until the end of the year. Enjoy!

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Boreal Tempest

I can't tell you how much this is going to improve my C-tier Monday.

Dr. Katz

Just in time for my lunch break

Stan Beal

Mina Kimes? Hellll yeeeaahhh

CJ

I never understood why they didn't take Hunt up on the 2 point conversion rule sooner. In situations of 14-6 it makes tying the game an option instead of having awkward one point deficits, and tie games are inherently more interesting to spectators

CJ

Wait, you're not going to address the first and only 11-8 game in NFL history, where Belichick had Browns holder Tom Tupa run the ball in for a completely unnecessary 8-0 lead? That game is Scorigami catnip. Maybe you'll circle back to it by the end in which case I'll delete

Dr. Katz

Mina Kimes showing up in Dorktown is the crossover we all needed.

Assigned Conor At Birth

EXCLUSIVE: Reactions from Around the NFL After Analyst Mina Kimes Implies Human Civilization Will Collapse Soon

Fox Doucette

That naysaying about the 2-point conversion in 1994 reminds me of NBA writers saying the same thing about the 3-point shot in 1979. Admittedly, it took basketball a lot longer to catch on to the idea, but it still looks terribly dinosaur-ish in hindsight.

CJ

Can't believe the Tetris Cannon went from an offhand observation in the first Scorigami video to a structure worthy of an elegiac "In the Clouds" needle drop 🫡

arceus's microphone

"I know way more about football than NFL players do" is a phrase that'd be utterly insufferable if uttered by anyone except the Secret Base crew

Dr. Katz

Dan Orlovsky wonders if anyone will still talk about him running out of the endzone on the post-apocalypse

Fox Doucette

I love that both the Heidi Game AND the Butt Fumble were both Scorigami. The Football Gods are clearly fans of Tex Avery cartoons and want to manifest them in the world of sports.

Isaac Howard

the worst part of being a chargers fan is knowing my team played a part in the destruction of the tetris cannon

Secret Base

someday i'd like to do something on the very early history of the NBA three, it was so funny. if i recall its usage was extremely low in year 1 and somehow even lower in year 2 because everybody hated it -jon

John Marvin

Was born and raised in New Hampshire and started levitating out of my chair when the Old Man came out of nowhere

Secret Base

mina's the best. we talked for about an hour, she had so much interesting stuff to say that cutting it down to a few minutes was really tough -jon

CJ

One more Scorigami fact I'm surprised didn't come up: the Packers and Vikings came together for two Tie Scorigami, 26-26 and 29-29, in the span of five years. I was hoping they were the last two Tieigami to happen to date, but the Panthers and Bengals went 37-37 in between those two

Daniel Groh

Finally, the birthday gift I was actually waiting for.

Sour Boi

didnt have the old man of the mountain in a jon bois project on my bingo card, but love hearing the icon of my home state getting its story told, albeit briefly, in the perfectly bittersweet way it deserves. ya'll never cease to impress.

CJ

I knew about it from the state quarter, and I knew it collapsed in recent years, but I didn't realize it collapsed so long ago. I think I confused it with some other iconic geographic feature that crumbled in the last decade or so. Always does make me a little wistful

alex

did not escape our attention! in fact in the 21st century, the minnesota vikings of minnesota -- who play all of their home games in minnesota -- have multiple scorigamic wins in wisconsin, multiple scorigamic ties in wisconsin...and 0 scorigamic wins in minnesota -alex

Kiaayo

Mina's obviously wrong about when the last NFL season will be, we all know that it's got at least 15,700 seasons left in it.

John Dees

“Take a stand for what's right. Raise a ruckus and make a change. You may not always be popular, but you'll be part of something larger and bigger and greater than yourself. Besides, making history is extremely cool.” -Samuel L. Jackson (likely talking about the destruction of the Tetris cannon)

Matthew Glidden

I am here for all of this, especially the "matriculate" nod. Superb.

Fox Doucette

If you're going to do that, you might as well throw in the inaugural 1967-68 ABA season, which, like the AFL and the 2-point conversion, was the progenitor of the 3-pointer. And, in one of those "it's so far ahead of its time it borders on silly", the team that took and made the most threes in that season, the Pittsburgh Pipers (over 10 a game as a team, making 30.8 percent of them), ended up winning the ABA championship, one of those things I like to think a high school-aged Mike D'Antoni somehow noticed and kept close to his heart.

CJ

Happy birthday 🎂

Batti1358

And dislike the Jets

Blue Weber

So pumped to see Mina Kimes in here!

Breadski

I hate being reminded about how in the 98 NFC Championship Minnesota had 2 timeouts and 30 seconds left in regulation but decided to take a knee and lose the game in overtime. However... I love the Browns being the Browns and losing games in Browns fashion.

Jamin Dabkowski

I will always treasure Pete Carroll and that era of Seahawks football when, truly, anything was possible.

Samuel Brown

This just makes me want a broadcast booth with Jon and Mina for one or more games a season

Fox Doucette

Mina is so enjoyable to watch that I also want her paired with Clara Morris for another Secret Base crossover, covering a WNBA game. I would watch the WNBA if that happened.

Troy W

As an extremely biased life-long USC fan, Pete is the Chosen One of Scorigami. He has the perfect combination of competitive spirit, defensive expertise, and lack of anal-retentive perfectionism to create large numbers of blowouts where exactly one weird thing happens. Maybe it's a bunch of penalties, maybe a safety, maybe it's a few missed extra points, maybe it's letting the opponent get a sad two-point conversion. Even before Scorigami existed, you'd look at the 2007 Rose Bowl (USC 32 Michigan 19) and think "It's almost like he does this on purpose."

Brandon Perez

The tease of the 2014 Super Bowl in the earlier videos was so exciting and then it actually happening was even better.

JohnnyTikitavi

I love that the “what the helmet” game is Jon’s fav What a crazy game

GayGay Bleday

WOWEE ZOWEE, Mina has knows Pavement ball.

MathTeacherGuy

The 2013 NFL season was the only time I watched much pro football with my dad. He was in the hospital being treated for cancer, and I was most available to visit on Sunday evenings. Neither of us had ever really had a favorite team, but we both enjoyed Peyton Manning's play with the Broncos that season. As the season closed, my dad's cancer prognosis was excellent. But right about the time the Super Bowl slate was finalized as Seahawks and Broncos, we found out that the cancer was back and terminal. He was hospitalized again the day before the Super Bowl, and I thought it'd be nice to enjoy watching one last football game with him at the hospital, but then he was discharged to go on hospice a little before the game. So I stopped by the old family home, and my brother and I turned on the TV just in time to see that ridiculous first play. My dad got back from the hospital during the second quarter, walked downstairs, watched a minute or two of the game, and said something like "I don't want to watch this." and left. He died a few days later, and I have not watched a single minute of a Super Bowl since. Never would have guessed that my most memorable Super Bowl was also historic, in a bizarre way that my dad would have appreciated and that I certainly do.

Nicholas Poer

If someone can get a 39-9 on the board we'll have a Tetris gun with the bullets firing on the 8 point row (a 27-8 would also help space them out more like the original cannon). Can't wait for Scorigami v3 in 2040 (just before civilization collapses) to learn how the Jets ruin that one too.

Gray K.

You're maybe thinking of the Punta Ventana landmark in Guayanilla, Puerto Rico, which was destroyed by an earthquake in January 2020

Mitch Okun

1983 Glee Club? Someone wanna fill me in on the joke?

Colm

sounds incredibly fake but the old man of the mountain quarter appeared in my washer today, rubbed almost completely flat along the line from the chin to nose to forehead. I had never taken any notice of these quarters until today.

Erich Granahan

Crazy… last night I was literally looking up videos of The Old Man on the Mountain collapse… and it’s mentioned on this video… Great work as always!

Harrison Hodges

There was an Almost Scorigami in 2021 and it burns me up a little that we didn't get it. Raiders Chargers in the final week are tied at 32 going into OT, and they can both make the play-offs only with a tie. The Raiders kick a FG in overtime to win instead of running out the clock, we miss out on 32-32, and a terrible Steelers team (my guys yay) make it in instead of the Chargers. Made everyone feel a little bad, truly the opposite of the Chiefs Rams game from 2018.

47rohin

In the very same year the Tetris cannon died, NES Tetris would witness its first "rebirth" screen after a marathon game of Tetris looped through all 255 levels back to level 0 (technically the loop point was level 19 but who's counting). Tetris died so Tetris could be reborn, however disparate those instances were

nywatt

we will never forget you, tetris cannon o7

Thomas Beuster

In the first part of the series, there was a team called the "Washington glee club", but it was unrelated to the commanders, and Jon and Alex don't want to use the old name for the commanders because it's a slur

Russet Burbank

Glad we got a song named "Cubic" in there to celebrate this collection of green cubes

Dantem

I need the Playlist for this episode

Mike Peluso

An underrated scorigami game: Eagles beat the 49ers 40-8 in 1994. AKA the Charlie Garner game. AKA the game where Young and Seifert yelled at each other on the sidelines. The 49ers would lose one more game the entire year.

Secret Base

believe it or not we actually had a whole segment written out for that game / sideline blowup but had to cut it for time. we could probably fill another couple of hours with fun stories we left on the cutting room floor -jon

Mike Peluso

That's awesome. Tough break that it didn't make the cut. Would have been a perfect place for Herschel Walker's music, too! (He scored the TD in that game that effectively ended Young's day)

yeggog

This will probably be of interest to nobody but here goes. I knew at least one of the Tetris cannon's bullets had been wiped out last season, but somehow I didn't know the Tetris piece itself was gone. How is this possible? How didn't I find out about it, every time a Scorigami happens it comes across my Twitter feed, I like to look at the board and the replies to the tweet, how did I miss the most recent one which happens to have forever reshaped the board? Well, dear viewer, I hail from the land of the guy who slipped on a banana peel out his third-story apartment window and proceeded to walk right back in, Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh just so happened to become the home of the winter edition of the speedrunning marathon Games Done Quick in 2024, and I decided, yeah sure, I'll go, it's here after all. It came back this year and it took place in the first full week of January. The final full day just so happened to be the day the Tetris piece died. I missed it because I was at GDQ! Fun fact, I know I'm not the only Jon Bois enjoyer who went to AGDQ 2025, because, if any of you watched the Bois/BobbyBroccoli-inspired video about the Minnesota Twins playoff losing streak, the guy who made that video actually does graphics work for GDQ and was there this year! Crazy world. In the past few months my work put on a Tetris tournament. It was fun, the guy who won it was the guy who organized it which is kinda lame when that happens but whatever. By the end of it it became clear that a particular strategy was really powerful, where the player does 2 combo T-Spins in a row and it ends up sending a ton of garbage to the other player. This technique, surely well known to people who are versed in competitive 1v1 Tetris which I was not, is called the "DT Cannon". I heard that term so dang much in the closing weeks of the tournament that, watching this video, every time Jon mentioned the Tetris cannon on the Scorigami board, I immediately thought of the DT Cannon instead. It helps that the piece on the board happened to be a T piece. Oh and that guy who organized the tournament and won? Yeah, he also does work for GDQ, and is at every one of their in-person events. None of this was relevant to anything but it appeals to the strange associative ways my mind works and against my better judgement I wanted to share, I apologize for the catastrophic waste of time reading this comment was.

Michael Makar

Nah this is cool, tons of little coincidences. Life imitating art or something to that effect.

Ben Sweetser

How does Jon keep getting away with this? I’m bummed about a Tetris cannon in a video about scorigami… the phrase Tetris cannon didn’t even mean anything to me an hour ago

Mitch Okun

Ah yes, that makes sense. Thank you.

Ben Sweetser

Also NH resident here, loved the side story of the Old Man on the Mountain!

Steve Timko

Checking in as ANOTHER Yinzer who missed that game because of attending GDQ. I was wondering why I couldn't remember that game!

theMasochistGamer

I very much enjoy the running gag of referring to Washington's football team as the Washington Glee Club (see the chart of teams to score 500+ points through 2018)

Richard Angle

And that one game they lost was the regular season finale where they rested a bunch of starters.

john fiorello

What is eternal scorigami? I can’t find any mention of it anywhere

Fox Doucette

It's a Scorigami that has never been duplicated since it was first achieved. Mentioned in episode 1 of this series.

roljamas

Any chance to hear about that Browns Chiefs 2002 game in detail is always worth taking, the unofficial birth of the Dick Vermeil-era Chiefs: All Offense, No Defense.

Anthony

sounds like Alex called Nathan Peterman "Peterson" at ~46:32

alex

aw dangit i was sure there was no way this could be true -- i literally figured i'd be more likely to mispronounce my own last name than nate peterman's! yet sure enough you are indeed correct, i somehow flubbed that -alex

Edward Tischler

man, I was pretty stoked when the tetris cannon and its bullets got shot down. I watched and celebrated all three of them as they happened live on my screen. But now you got me all sad and stuff. I want my tetris cannon back.

Adam Foote

I'm a Bills fan. When we learned Nathan Peterman would be starting that game, I remember thinking "huh, that's weird, but I'm sure Sean McDermott knows what he's doing." The Great Nathan Peterman Experience, as I call this game, led to me realizing that Sean McDermott is good for at least 2 unbelievably baffling decisions every season.

Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.

i think it is fitting that the youngest team in the league was the first to score with the newest method

MegaZeroX

I remember when the Old Man on the Mountain collapsed. I was in 3rd grade, and our teacher told us how big of a deal it was. The Old Man had actually been brought up in a previous class, so it was kind of whiplash going from "this is a symbol of our state" to "yeah, he's gone now" as a small kid. I had to learn that symbols aren't permanent. :(

Clayton Hurdle

The Mina Kimes cameo was spectacular. Well done, boys.

Ben

Please do! Would love a casual video/podcast of Jon and Alex sitting around a table talking through these stories in a more laid-back style. It would be great as a Patreon-only feature.

Robert

Now if only some weirdos in the south could get that through their head lol

CJ

Cubic is legitimately one of my favorite tunes of all time and I wouldn't have known about it if not for Jon using it to soundtrack the 1998 NFC Championship in the Vikings documentary

CJ

Premiere Journal, by Pierre Dutour

Jason Free

🤞 Mina Kimes being a guest is a stepping to Jon getting a 30 for 30 director opportunity

CJ Barrett

Wow, I can’t believe the Chargers destroyed The Old Man on the Mountain.

Dave Provost

I may have been the last human to see the Old Man in the Mountain. I was living in Concord at the time, and I had to make a trip up to Northern NH (Berlin, I think) for work that Friday. It was kind of a crappy day, misty and cold. On my way home, despite the weather, I stopped to take my first good look at the Old Man, since I knew we would be moving out of New Hampshire later that month. I suppose it's possible some other driver on 93 got a good look at him between ~5pm (when I pulled over) and whatever time it got too dark/foggy to see him, but maybe not.

Sir

Why don't preseason games qualify for Scorigami? I saw the Pats beat the 'Manders 48-18 and I checked the scorigami website and it said it was an exhibition game, which makes it not a Scorigami. It would be helpful for a response, please and thank you.

Daniel Brandes

Love all of the stabs that the closed captioning takes at Scorigami

Ryan Petriello

My assumption is that preseason/exhibition games are ineligible for Scorigami since they don't count towards the official records.

Kevin Mulcahy

Please release this exclusive footage Patreon exclusive

Joseph Hudson

is mina kimes about to end the world?

Elijah Zelonky

I'm really glad Jon took the time to highlight that Chiefs/Rams game and the significance of it. I'm a Bears fan with no dog in the fight and I was living in LA at the time. My house had burned down in the LA fires just 11 days prior. I remember watching that game on my phone with a friend of mine at Target and then Panda Express, and the whole thing was just such a rush. It was precisely the distraction I needed that night, and it also gave me hope for the future. That game will always mean a great deal to me.

Daniele Cattabriga

Honestly surprised the dolphins broncos 70-20 didn’t make the cut for this series… that was the craziest scorigami I can remember watching live

Greg Puszko

I grew up in New England, and only needed to get to 56:01 before I knew exactly what you were getting at, paused the video, and started laughing hysterically. Y'all are some of the best story tellers in the world. Thank you.

Jack Conroy

Scorigami #1000 being the butt fumble game is incredible