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I wanted to bring up this issue again as I just checked the response of 2 other Free Pro 2 units I got recently and like visible from the measurements they differ quite a bit compared to my reference unit and also my other 2 units I am using regularly. I had another unit which I purchased recently for a friend and when I measured it, it was more inline with my previous units, therefore I don't know if this difference is just random or based on different production batches. 

You can see the raw response on top, the final response with applied tuning below, black being my reference unit  while purple and red being the other 2 units I purchased recently (I only measured those with pink noise, therefore there is some jagginess visible with bass). Especially the purple unit differs a lot, it’s not just a difference in amplitude but also the peaks are shifted, after applying the tuning there is more than 6dB treble difference, it would need a completely other setting to sound comparable let alone the same as my reference unit. The red unit although slightly better still sounds "completely" different to what I intended. The treble smoothness I get from my reference unit is gone here and it would also need additional tweaking to sound similar.

It would seem as if over time the production factory must have had some changes between different production runs, otherwise I cannot explain this strong variation and maybe this is simply what is to expect from such cheap prodcuts, but unfortunately it makes all my work become obsolete when looking at this variation. I cannot know how your unit behaves and if my setting applied will even make any sense. I am going to order a next unit just to get sure if these 2 units may be some spikes or if all recent units are simply different. 

Only solution for this would be to custom tune each single unit for those who really want the sound as close to what I had in mind. If there is interest, please let me know. 

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Douwe de Vries

I completely understand that. My first and second unit have quite a difference in sample variation so I can definitally confirm this. I think my first still sounds the best with the reference tuning. I'm gonna give it some time too to see what sound I enjoy out of both units. It makes tuning so challenging if you can't have a consistent result. You'd have to finetune depending on the unit to really get that high quality sound I do think.

David Walsh

Well, when I apply your EQ, and perform sine sweeps it sounds quite smooth. I guess such a test would be able to indicate this kind of issue.

Jeremy

Man that’s got to be frustrating. This is part of why I think it would be a good idea to tune a pair of iems that are wired that you like and that you think will have stability in the manufacturing. Use that with a Qudelix 5k which has full access to 10 band eq and can be used wired or wireless mode. Then we’d have an easier interface to work with and you could pick whatever product you believe has the highest quality and consistency. I think we’d all buy whatever you suggested most people here are very passionate about your project.

oluvsgadgets

All IEMs that I owned as multiple units never measured the same. I don’t know how consistent higher priced units may behave but even when looking at Crinacle’s measurements of some +$1000 units there is lots of variation between left and right which makes me question if it would even make any sense to try tuning one of these.

Jeremy

I see, that’s disappointing I was hoping higher priced units would have better quality control. Or maybe inexpensive ones could be checked and resold by you directly? Say if 80 percent measure the same you could just sell pre tested ones that fall within line of what you find acceptable. I guess you could do that with the earfun as well.

Jeremy

Obviously you’d need to make extra to cover that but I think everyone would understand.

Michał

I think it's the only way, listen to some frequency sweep and apply additional eq if needed, did this for my unit and the results are insane

V

I would be interested in buying an already tuned unit from you. My resonance frequency is around 6000hz so it should be easier... Thanks again for all your work

Philip Zborovsky

Hi Oluv, is there a way to reset the earfun pro 2 to default, I'm having some issues with the eq app, the earphones are stuck on some random tuning I made just for testing, and now I cant switch to anything else!

oluvsgadgets

Put them into the box and keep them pressed for 10 seconds, this will reset them but won’t change any tuning

Philip Zborovsky

I mean how do i reset them to default tuning, or how can I get rid of any user eq settings? i cant even switch between user eq setting...

oluvsgadgets

There is no way to get back to default tuning. Select another eq index hit real-time update and it should take this Eq

Philip Zborovsky

i dont know, but it didnt work for me, I tried everything, real time update, save data, set index.... also what happens if you are tuning different frequencies on different user settings, are they still active when u switch to another user setting that didn't touch those frequencies?

Philip Zborovsky

On another note, more related to this post with unit difference, I think I have one of these units that are much different from your reference because when I initially applied your tuning for 6500Hz (my resonance) it did not sound neutral at all, that's why I started messing with another user preset to make some dramatic difference to see if it even works! now I'm stuck on this horrible preset and cant get back! I will try using another phone and maybe an older version of the app... sigh.

Kevin M George

If we are going to continue to use Earfun devices for their chip that allows for on-board EQ, I would be caurious if they would even listen to us and what we want from a 'next generation' product... Almost like a 'Earfun 3 pro alpha' where it could be a "bined" version of the Earfun 3 pro. Where the 'alpha' would be more expensive but also have +/- 1db difference in channel matching left and right units...where the unit variation would only be within 2-3 decibles - things of that nature. Any other ideas for what we would want and/or idea on how to start that conversation with them? I doubt they will be open to this idea the first couple times. There should already be some sort of QC checks before they get sent out (hopefully). Most likely this is going to be a more expensive version of their product but only they would be able to say how much more...

Philip Zborovsky

ah so thats the key, otherwise the app doesn't apply the eq, you must have an audio signal! maybe add that to the tutorial if it's not already there? sorry if I missed it.

oluvsgadgets

It’s just an assumption but I always play something to get sure it changes the values besides sometimes they break up connection which you would hear if one side cuts out etc. Usually saving the Eq should still work as well, but when someone else confirmed that playing some audio helped, I think it could fix the problem.

oluvsgadgets

I tried talking to Earfun so often before, it’s their business. I tried contacting some other companies as well, maybe one of them could show some interest.

oluvsgadgets

Send me a message please and we can talk about the details

Philip Zborovsky

Yes, thanks Oluv, the key was to play some audio. Maybe you can mention that in your tutorial. Cheers!

S. Ayar

Hi Oluv, I checked carefully with the tone generator, unfortunately I also have the red curve exactly. I was already suspecting that I'm hearing something different like that after 9k. What would you suggest I can do to fix it a little? Could you please make an edit for us with the red curve? Thank you for your effort.

Salem Mahjoub

My user defined eq count is 4. Does that affect sound

Richard Woodward

Hi Oluv, I've just bought Earfun Free Pro 2 on your recommendation, followed your instructions and used 6500Mhz tuning. All ok except there's a constant mid-pitched sound when playing music which continues a few seconds after I stop a track. It's like a hammond organ pipe! This happens in both noise cancel and normal status. Is this normal with these earphones? I didn't really check before tuning them with the app, so I don't know if they are faulty or it's caused by the tuning. Thank you.

Richard Woodward

After more testing I found it's only my phone that has this high pitch (Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite) - they are perfect on PC and TV. Hadn't noticed this whine before with other earphones but it is there with them too - shows how good these Earfun phones are!

Bernhard Za

Schade nachdem ich alles gekauft hab diese Nachricht zu hören.Aber was kann man tun. Selber einkaufen und getunet verkaufen?