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Half in the Bag: Oppenheimer and The Hollywood Implosion (Patreon)

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2023-07-24 00:18:26
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Half in the Bag: Oppenheimer and The Hollywood Implosion

Happy Barbenheimer everyone! Watch at these two elderly losers stall for half the video before finally discussing what some are calling the best movie of the year: Oppenheimer! In addition to that, Mike and Jay discuss the ongoing writer and actor strikes as well as it's consequences on movies, theaters, streamers, and most importantly what effect it will have on David Zaslav. Won't someone please think of poor David Zaslav?!

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Kate

Thank you for your service.

EnormousTortoise

I highly recommend the HBO Chernobyl series to you guys, and anyone else who hasn't watched it. I know Jay and Mike will both love it because it is simultaneously the best disgusting horror film in years and also the best Star Trek miniseries in years!

Amanda Foster

I was trying my best to pay attention but that fly buzzin around the VCR shop and those AIDS awareness trading cards were too distracting.- my review for both movies

Joseph Mazza

I agree! Pretend Andor is not Star Wars and give it a shot 👍

Ronnie Filyaw

Can I be the loser who makes the Star Trek reference in lieu of Mike? In the 1989 film "Fat Man and Little Boy," the character of Oppenheimer is portrayed by Dwight Schultz who played the nervous, anti-social lieutenant Reginald Barclay on Star Trek: The Next Generation.

Brian Patterson

Too bad it wasn't available in 70mm IMAX in Milwaukee or Chicago. You'd think at least Chicago, just a 100 mile drive, but nope. :(

Joseph Mazza

Btw the Nolan’s Twelve Angry Men joke was genius 😂👍

Neil Peart, Lord of Drums

Mike, every day is a "crisis of consciousness" when your diet consists of twelve bottles of beer and three shots of whiskey.

SHAGGAR!

Andor is actually good, not SNW "good" and its kind of incredible that it came from Disney. Although I'm sure they'll fuck it up next season somehow. Maybe they put Dave Filoni on it.

Marina

I just knew Jay wanted to see that Oppenheimer hog

Brian Patterson

Lemme guess, with your comments about those "Inception Frat Guys" you either had to see this at the Oriental on the east side or the Majestic in Brookfield in 70mm but not in IMAX, so it all looked weird? Otherwise, what side of Milwaukee were you on? Hopefully not South Shore in Oak Creek, a last resort for any movie fan in the area.

sacch

I heard there was 15 minutes of full frontal nudity in this episode is that true

Alison Ludwig

There is something wrong with a subset of the Nolan Fandom and I'm glad the RLM guys notice it. Literally a stranger next to me in the theater began writhing and moaning in his seat during the build-up to the nuclear test explosion. He moaned and gasped out loud as if orgasming at the sight of the explosion on screen. What the fuck is happening?

Neil Peart, Lord of Drums

Wow, everything you've said confirmed why I figured this would not be a movie for me. Nolan has developed a "style," and I figured he would not let up on it even for what's essentially a biography. Constant and usually bombastic music; pointless editing; the movie needs to look like it's using the most modern possible technology available regardless of whether that look fits the script's aesthetics. This is a man who needs to be given a smaller budget. Just look what happens when you don't give him a ridiculous amount of money to make his movie -- you get Following, Memento, Insomnia, and The Prestige. Dunkirk was OK, but marred by a whole lot of poor attention to detail and baffling decisions like shooting in the actual town of Dunkirk, which has been completely rebuilt. I haven't seen Interstellar. I've tried and failed on multiple occasions to sit through Inception (am I the only one who can't stand it???) and Tenet was such a ridiculous slog that I actually did manage to make it to the end just to see how stupid it would get.

andrew

Lower Decks + Jack Quaid + Strange New Worlds + Jonathan Frakes. This week, it’s a stew of conflicting emotions about good Trek and bad Trek.

Carly

It would be so amazing if you could get a female guest in (Gillian?) and review Barbie!

Bill

Oh my god! They worked!

Marvin Falz

I'm a big proponent of physica media (that includes books), too. It's nice to have that many movies and series on streaming-services but what's the use when I only put more movies and series on my list and then never watch any of them. I don't watch for the sake of watching ("consume product, move on to next product"). Ironically though, I found the Blonde movie on a streaming-service, otherwise I wouldn't have even known the movie existed. That movie was a starting point for me to learn more about Norma Jeane as a person and "Marilyn Monroe" as a Hollywood persona, about the time she lived in, about Hollywood itself and that inevitably leads to Lynch's Hollywood trilogy as well as Twin Peaks and The Return, especially Part 8, which is connected to Aleister Crowley and Jack Parsons, and the journey goes on and on. I have a feeling the Barbie movie wouldn't have such a tremendous effect on me. Needs more atomic explosions and perverted rituals to bring about Judy.

Rhea

Mike I think you especially would LOVE Chernobyl, you guys should definitely sit on the couch and hold hands and watch it together

Matthew

It’s odd… in our theater, the music was not that overbearing, and we could hear all the dialogue (compared to tenet!), and the screen was calibrated appropriately. The music issue may have been a speaker calibration issue, depending on where it’s mixed.

Armando Quinones

WTF NEITHER HAVE SEEN CHERNOBYL ???.... WATCH CHERNOBYL... IT'S SOOO GOOD... the only thing that feels like a drag is the storyline about the firefighter and his wife.. but when I found out it was a true story it really floored me... The acting is superb.

Bort Ward

27:40. Gen Z'ers. Willing to accept sex from strangers on the Internet, post racy pictures on social media but unwilling to accept nudity in movies?

Manuel Johnen

Just for shits'n giggles, my Nolan ranking of his shitty movies I've seen... Inception (***1/2 out of ****) Batman Begins (*** out of ****) Memento (**1/2 out of ****) Tenet (**1/2 out of ****) Interstellar (** out of ****) The Dark Knight (** out of ****) The Dark Knight Rises (** out of ****) The Prestige (* out of ****) One really good movie, one pretty good movie and lots of mediocre garbage... and "The Prestige", which should be burned at a stake... Where does "Poppenheimer" fit in there...?

Nick Adelson

Re-upped my sub just to write this so that hopefully RLM might see it. I'm an audio engineer. Christopher Nolan is a FRAUD. All my audio friends agree, his "experimental" audio mixes purposefully obscure dialogue so you have to see the movie more than one to drive up box-office takes. There's easily a full video to be made on this that would put even the Adam Sandler swindle machine to shame. He buries the dialogue beneath a sea of organ swells from Hans Zimmer falling asleep on his keyboard. He does not use ducking (ie. side-chain compression) to make sure the dialogue is always front and center. This is on purpose, Nolan has alluded to this in past interviews as an "experimental audio mix". It's fraudulent. Dunkirk, Tenet, and now Oppenheimer, all have audio that is unintelligible BY DESIGN. You can go back further, Bane is the classic example. Someone needs to hold this prick to task.

Bo

I'm a Nolan fan and I know some of his fanboys can be hyper annoying but holy shit ten second perusing these comments has shown that the anti-Nolans are SO MUCH WORSE. It's like a bunch of Ben Shapiros, little butt hurt wanna-be film bros just endlessly bitching. Shut upppppp

The Real Zam

Laughed every time Jay & Mike said OPENheimer instead of Oppenheimer. If your theater keeps fucking up the aspect ratio, it will become CLOS-ED-heimer.

Rhea

Speaking of Barbie can you guys please please PLEASE invite Trixie Mattel to be on BotW she's from Wisconsin and is hilarious and sardonic and would vibe so well with you

The Real Zam

I’m convinced that Jay actually watched the David Decoteau mock buster version. The one featuring big explosions in the OPEN-heimer of some young buff shirtless dudes.

The Real Zam

It was nice to see that the ghost of Cameron Mitchell is still buzzing around the RLM studio.

Vulpine Machine

I had to comment on the bit about animated movies mentioned around the 32 minute mark. I know they kind of mocked and brushed off the political aspects of movies these days, but it's becoming a bigger issue, not a smaller one. Families like ours, and a growing number, feel that most of the studios who are making "family" movies are agenda driven and we're not interested in seeing their garbage. We aren't seeing their stuff in theater or on streaming. We're watching old stuff instead. There's a huge library of old stuff and if you're semi competent you can rip all this stuff to a computer to run a PLEX server (or other media server, but PLEX is pretty great). We WILL go see a movie in theater if it's worth seeing, but Disney has absolutely lost its way. Not taking my kids to a movie with a bunch of stupid agenda stuff. Forget it. Super Mario did fantastic, it also had zero agenda. Make a good actually family movie and families WILL open their wallet.

Marvin Falz

Love the sort of behind-the-scenes moment (I know, the context is different), where you zoom out into DaVinci Resolve and it reminded me that I'm watching an illusion.

Marvin Falz

I also love the 12 Angry Men edit. Besides being well edited, if that's how Oppenheimer sounds like, I'd not want to watch it.

andrew

I honestly forgot that Jack Quaid was on BOTW Plinketto. Any chance some profound Star Trek fans can have a Star Trek star back on RLM?

Arthur Bright

Let's have Jack Quaid back for a Re:view of the SNW-Lower Decks crossover.

Mel

Hi, ex-projectionist with about 10 years experience here. I'll try and explain in the most nerdy way possible what I think happened with your aspect ratio fuckup. Found a very detailed list here of all the formats Oppenheimer has been release in. https://www.oppenheimermovie.com/tickets/formats/ I'm assuming you saw in a digital presentation, because it'd be impossible for this to happen with film. According to the website, it seems the 4K digital version "Digital Cinema Packages are available in an aspect ratio of 2.2:1 in both Flat and Scope containers" This means the actual aspect ratio of the digital version of the film is 2.2:1 (this aspect ratio is becoming more common for digital DCP releases, supposedly because it's a happy medium between 2.35:1 or 2.39:1 (aka cinemascope), and 16:9 (known in projectionist terms as 1.78:1, the format of most television screens and computer monitors). When it says this comes in both Flat and Scope containers, this means the actual encoding of the space surrounding the image. So you can either select a 2.2:1 image surrounded by a Flat (1.85:1, old school widescreen format) or Scope (2.39:1) framing. As Jay mentioned, the trailer was framed up in perfect 1.85:1, so that means the screen was 1.85:1, and also the lens position of the projector was the same. Having letterboxing and pillarboxing at the same time, suggests there were 3 aspect ratios going on there at the same time. The dark black letterbox bars are the masking on the digital image, and the grey bars around the edge are where there is actually no digital information being sent from the projector to that section of the screen, but it is not properly masked up either. Despite what cinema chain executives would like to believe, film projection does not just miraculously appear on the screen at the touch of a button, generally someone has to program the projector with a series of instructions telling it which DCP file to play, when, and how. We call this a "script". It seems to me that whoever scripted this show, told the projector to play the version of Oppenheimer in the Scope container, not the flat one. To get it to play the Scope version correctly, they would have had to program in a new lens position (in film projecting we just swap the lenses out, but with digital the lens needs to zoomed in to fit the screen. This means a digital scope projection is actually showing less detail than a flat projection, which is the opposite of with film, and kind of defeats the purpose of why anamorphic scope film was invented, but that's another story). As a projectionist it grinds my gears that this has happened to you guys at least twice. I would be interested if you could somehow actually contact Christopher Nolan, because I'm sure he'd be overjoyed his films are being shown like this. As digital film shows are encoded centrally on a server then sent out to numerous projectors I'm sure you're not the only people who this happened to. If I showed a film with this lack of attention to detail, especially a big tentpole movie like this, I would have had my ass kicked (well, not really, but I'd get a severe telling off). There was a reason it's referred to by projectionists as "theatrical presentation." Unfortunately, this is what happened when major cinema chains thought that they could just get rid of all the projectionists because "it's digital so the technology will just run itself." The quality of experience for the paying customer goes down the toilet. The importance of having someone in that little booth at the back checking what's going on in the cinema cannot be overstated. Overnight guys in well-paying, highly skilled roles were out of a job or demoted to minimum wage. Sound familiar, Hollywood actors? Anyway, guess that's just some more of that old 'Movie Magic'!

Tomas

I made the mistake of watching the first episode of strange new worlds. The opening scene has pike on earth having breakfast, he soon after has a real time conversation with Spock on Vulcan (who's shagging a women he doesn't meet for another few years later) . Next scene has pike leaving earth by shuttle about 8 hours later only to beam aboard the enterprise, after they get the hero shot of the ship, and then is greeted by Spock on the ship. So within the first 10 minutes of the new series, they've ignored cannon and completely misunderstood the distances of objects in space, it gets worse after that. I didn't watch the second episode.

DonMac

While watching "Oppenheimer" I was looking for Jack Quaid to show up in the movie. And when he did, my thought was "Hold on, is he playing Richard Feynman?" - and soon after confirmed, yep, he is! Now I wish he would play that curious character again in an adaptation of "Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!"

Ben-K

Glad you’re enjoying Lower Decks, Mike! Any show which features Giant Spock’s skeleton can’t be wrong, I say

Eric Topp

I like ST:SNW - the stories are good and most of the reimagined characters feel right. Having said that, The Orville is still the best "new Trek"

Paladin

Unrelated, sort of but Jack Quaid is the voice of Superman now animated by the Korean studio that animated Avatar the Last Airbender and it is really worth checking out. So much more true to the character, hopefully Rich Evans can give more insight! Edit: It is called “My Adventures with Superman” on Adult Swim, not paid by AS either!

Brian E. Lindstrand

My girlfriend and I finally got a chance to see OPPENHEIMER today and wow! I am in complete agreement with Mike, how could anyone been bored in that movie? It was seriously intense right from the start and that consisted of Cillian Murphy looking at drops of rain hitting the ground. We were able to see it in the "IMAX 2D Experience," so it seemed to be at the correct ratio for digital screenings and it was certainly LOUD. I really thought it was quite the experience.

Ben-K

Hello! I really enjoyed Oppenheimer, only just got to see it. I can recommend it! But I’m sure you’ve all seen it already, haha

Andee Oord

People in the SAG-AFTRA strike do NOT want people to unsubscribe from streaming services. They’ve asked that people use them so that the companies can see how valuable their product is, thus how useful the workers are