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The CS Skins Market Crash | Lemonade Stand - Ep. 29 Premium [VIDEO] (Patreon)

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2025-10-27 17:00:15
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Recorded on October 24th, 2025

IntroCS Skins Market CrashTrump is demanding $230 million from the DOJWhen is a government cooked?

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Austin

Glizzy glizzy glizzy

Lemonhead

Can’t wait for temporary host Aiden to crash out

Wyatt Wilson

Wow, really can’t believe what Big A said

Blake Williams

I JUST LOST 10K MY BUTTERFLY GAMMA DOPPLER TANKED

Chance Roberson

How is Aiden going to move to Sweden now that his retirement has crashed!!

Tom E

Did Aiden include his knife collection when he called himself a millionaire?

Umbra Night

she red on my knife till it crashes

ゴミの河童

That spit-take at the beginning was phenomenal.

JazzFalcon

Shoutout Perry for the updated portfolio at the 29:00 mark. This CS skin market is actually insane

Scumlord Studio

Doug please literally buy coffee by super sister and then we do a whole campaign on tiktok making memes to make it #1 billboard charting, then donate all the profit to Monterrey Bay

Micheal Renfrew

thanks for the financial advice time to buy 200+ cs skins

Peter Sadek

At 14 mins you can see Doug realize why we should tax the rich. Aiden just became a millionaire while almost 10% of his net worth is in video game knife skins.

Lands Verader

Back in 2016 or 17 I bought like 600-700$ worth of skins just to play with them and they have indeed just gone up and to the right. In May these skins were about 3000$ and just before the crash they were about 7000$. Now after the crash my inventory is still worth 5500$. The skin market grew so much the last year that even after the crash I'm still up so much over this year. I think people do forget about that factor. We've grown crazy fast over the past year

Gadnuk Breaker of Worlds

My concern would be that waiting for the "this is a dictatorship" moment will be far too late to start doing the things you need to do to dismantle a dictatorship.

Fern

I think you have to clown on aimen gamin because the other option is to accept the absurd reality that he's punted what a lot of people make in a year. So I'm just gonna laugh and hope that the boys on the yard call Corwin live and have aimen say how much he's lost.

Arin K Nave.

@46:20 ish, Doug mentioning direct defying of judge action is exactly what the trump administration has done. It was a key part of the procedural history of Trump v. Casa, and there is language in the early months of Trump where the admin would be hit with an injunction, aka a "don't do a thing," then ignore it because they knew the higher courts favored them, that is not how it goes. you abide by the lower court until overturned by a higher court. An absurd example would be a court ordering a criminal defendant to be guilty and to be escorted to jail, but the defendant escapes because they're convinced that they'd win on appeal and get their verdict overturned.

Mark Jones

I've spent an hour debating on buying a $10 skin before. I would never be able to buy anything digital that expensive

Bailey Yin

I think the potential problem with Doug’s last trench is the ability of the Supreme Court to move goal posts to make things legal for Trump that would normally not be.

Benjamin Payton

I also feel like sitting back (net necessarily from the hosts, just general sentiment) until it feels like it's too late is a bad line to focus on. I'm not chilling until we get to "the last trench" we're a few trenches in, comrads have fallen, the opposition is rallying.

Umbra Night

Flawless record and flawless golf swing baby

ChimiChaney

Similar steps were taken on Rocket League (much smaller scale). People still grind it

Caitlyn Luciano

Aren’t there plenty of cases where they ignore a clear cut judicial decision?

Suppy

I relate so hard to Aiden’s sense of guilt, I don’t have an answer

Dante Gerell

They are literally deporting citizens, because they "look like immigrants", I don't believe y'all are taking it seriously enough

Andrew

The lesson here is that Aiden is making way too much money.

Captain Absurd

Just gonna say as a brown person hearing the rationalizations here is so disappointing and makes it evident why this country is cooked. ICE is openly racially discriminating and raiding APARTMENT buildings and taking people without warrants. What in the white privilege are we talking about here. If they're advancing the trenches then women and brown people were just the first ones to get passed. It's simple to say the line hasn't been crossed when you aren't the ones being profiled and afraid to walk home from work as a natural born citizen, or effected by things like Roe being overturned. Don't think you guys have any ill will but zamn I think we're all just frogs in a pot.

Azayrian105

Honestly I can’t fault them. They are scared and it hasn’t hit them yet and they hope that they will be able to make it out the other side of the storm. It just sucks they don’t have the perspective to see that people are already being repressed.

Oatmeal

Yes there are... I love the pod, just wish they would look into this stuff a bit more.

Jørgen Pasjkurov Indseth

I feel the "this is fine" meme perfectly captures the state of both the average, mostly unaffected, American and this podcast right now

Ryan Abell

As a DC native.... This whole idea that "the national gaurd is owerblown" Doug is stating... Fucking hurts. I love Doug but man that feels insanely bad

Kumquat

So, let's say that you already knew, without a shadow of a doubt, that we were NOT going to have free and fair elections in 2026. What would you do different?

deccie

love you guys & don't just wanna scream & ridicule, but the conversation about Trump is a very clear cut example of you all needing to read more about specific subjects before commenting on them. i don't think you guys see yourself as an 'authority' & i certainly don't either, but the whole draw of this podcast was you talking about things you genuinely know about. this felt like a miss

grassconsumer

I'm pretty sure there are unusual in TF2 that are worth several thousand dollars

Ztrawby

I had thought that the reason why the ballroom was so important is the fact that he's actively tearing down and building over previous presidents impacts both figuratively and literally by doing so. Wasn't their a famous rose garden that was there for many presidents in the area where the bulk of the building is being done

Bmorr

Rocket League removed trading and I feel like the game hasn’t been the same since. I tried for over a year to stay optimistic, but I really think it is what finally killed the game. I wouldn’t be surprised if CS goes from crazy peaks to slowly dwindling if they banned it. A couple years ago Rocket League and the Esports were peaking and now it’s just depressing.

Neo Bradshaw

I think an important note is that lower courts are consistently watching any decision they make be thrown away, overturned, or dismissed with prejudice. We are watching a consolidation of judicial power in the courts that Trump has the most sway over. We're in the trenches lads

Gilan

I don't like this view that there is a "marker" between U.S. democracy and authoritarianism/oligarchy. Yeah, in 100 years, when some bored high school student is learning about the 2020s, they will probably be taught that "Donald Trump did this one thing that led to the fall of America" or whatever. But, in reality, the markers are all the little things that don't seem like a big deal at the time. This feels like a boiling frog situation, a boiling inflatable frog perhaps.

Sonam

Please check out the Roblox stock market! I think that’d be a great idea for an unusual market.

Retrogradez

This is an interesting one and you guys hit on a lot of topics that run through my mind all the time on the second half of this video. There are several things where Aiden talks about how someone could argue that Trump stacked the judicial system, and I did several years ago only to find out that Obama had appointed roughly the same amount of judges than Trump did, if not more, so in a way it almost balances out. I stopped making that argument years ago. That being said my feelings remain that it feels like the judges seem to side more with his egregious, border line takes where no president has taken it to in recent years. In my opinion it feels like the judicial system should be stopping him because it feels like he's breaking the law, and many people say his administration is, but if no one is saying it's illegal well on our side we can only do so much. It also feels like the judicial system seems to systematically side with the rich and powerful, but that's a different topic. The part where you guys discuss how far Trump can take it before you guys say "ok this is too far" I feel when we look at history historians look at times like these and ask "why didn't anyone do anything to stop it?" I'm not saying that we should just lock him up outright, but we can't sit here and just watch things happen and just wait till he vastly goes against a ruling and we go "oh now we need to fear" wouldn't that just be too late at that point? My opinion stands on we should be fearing now, we can't wait till he does something to favor himself. He is a person that plays by the rules even if it's his rules. He's talked about potentially going to war so he can stay in office. My fear is he will play by the rules and do something outlandish to remain in office, but legally. Whether he finds some loophole in some random clause from the 1800's or something else, he will do something. I know we shouldn't fear the unknown possibilities but are we supposed to then just wait for something bad to happen and then go "ok now it's bad" but by then wouldn't it be too late? I don't know, a lot of all of your thoughts have been roaming my head for several months. Thanks for talking about it.

Conner Paul

They already ripped up the rose garden a few months ago to add a patio area.

Guy Fernando

Aidan literally “catching a falling knife” is killing me 🤣🤣🤣

SW

I generally agree with what you're bringing up. But I do disagree about the claim that Obama appointed a similar number of judges. Obama only managed to appoint 2 supreme court justices and that was over 8 years, while Trump has appointed 3 in a single four year term (with two of those being appointments being at best questionable in timing which leads to accusations of stacking the courts). As far as other federal judges Obama did appoint more (329 vs 249) but that was over 8 years compared to 4 and a half, so if we consider the number of appointments per year, Trump is noticeably appointing more. That being said I completely agree with your other point, I feel like it's possible we have a setup like Turkey or Russia where no rules are outright broken and there is still technically a "election" but it's not functionally a democracy. Especially with how possible and common gerrymandering seems in the current landscape.

Andrew Fenner (edited)

Comment edits

2026-09-07 01:00 Atrioc: “if the national guard is patrolling polling sites in 2026 im gonna…” Funny you should mention that: “Pete Hegseth doesn’t dispute plans to have ‘crowd control’ troops in every state ahead of 2026 midterms” https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/pete-hegseth-troops-crowd-control-midterms-b2851891.html
2025-10-28 01:46

Adib Teske

I feel like this is more of a adding on to a bad situation with rocket league. removing trading certainly pushed it in that direction, but as a still active rocket league player, the game has just felt like its been on a downward trend since even before that because epic games simply does not care about that game, they prioritize fortnite BY FAR, which makes sense, it generates them much more money. The esports scene i agree has felt like its been trending downwards too even with them finally trying out some new things its too little too late.

KD

Holy shit listening to Doug talk politics really does help you understand that some people’s moral code is genuinely “whatever the law says”. It’s “concerning” that masked individuals are getting government funding to grab lawful citizens, it’s only “really concerning” if the Supreme Court says it’s bad?

Will5342 Graves

I think it’s less a marker of US democracy failing, but when someone loses faith in the current system. Like the straw that breaks the camels back.

Halomateo

I don't know why the lemonade stand video'd eps never show up on my home feed. But only the audio versions do. No other podcasts has videos missing from my feed in which I actually have to go to their patreon page to watch it.

Intricate

It looks like aiden made the right play on those 3 knives seeing as the market seems to be recovering. No idea if it will keep going up though since we still need to wait for the 7 day trade ban to be lifted on new knives and reds that were bought off of 3rd party sites.

TopDM

It is so crazy to me that they think that sending the military into cities who are not ideologically aligned with the president ist "not that bad". Imagine saying before the court: "Yea I killed her but I didn't eat or rape her so it's not that bad."

TopDM

Can't wait for Trump to implement slavery and Atrioc to say "well it's not like we didn't have it before...".

nickyyo

does doug really not think democracy is already at stake i’m so lost on that point

nickyyo

as if jan 6 wasn’t enough like idk man if you can’t see it yet idk if you ever will

nickyyo

then his grounding in the judicial system as if the courts aren’t already stacked and bending the law to his will - weimar fell to fascism LEGALLY i feel like im losing my mind

Leo

Probably because they are looking at the historical use of the National Guard by the federal government, what the National Guard is actually doing, and differentiating between the various militaries of the US instead of lumping the NG into 'the military' basket.

Samuel T

he lost my yearly salary and it doesn't even matter 💔

Savanna Spazak

Maybe the 500 league skin wasn't so bad

Angelika Osiniak

I know this is not the most important part of this ep but I wanted to chime in on why the White House "renovation" has been such a big deal, because I've found myself wondering the same thing and wondering why it is so upsetting to me. What I've landed on: (1) the White House is literally called "The People's House" and Trump has just gone in and unilaterally destroyed and bulldozed a whole wing of it. A part of the People's House is just in rubble and it feels like a very physical manifestation of everything else that is going on in the country and everything that Trump is doing to break down democracy and the rule of law in our country. (Not that I ever trust anything Trump promises but) he quite literally said he would not touch the existing White House structure and in one day a third of the building is just gone. (2) The East Wing (the one he has destroyed) was previously literally called the Heart of Our Nation, mostly because of its close ties to the First Ladies and women of the White House. Its where the First Lady's office was housed. Again, sure, not the most important issue of the day, but it just feels like a really pointed and calculated disrespect. (3) The last reason is probably the most interesting/worrying/sus. This is more along the lines of crazy internet theory but again, if you'd told me a month ago that the president was going to bulldoze part of the White House I would've also said it was a crazy internet theory with no basis. It feels very concerning and dystopian that we are seemingly allowing PALANTIR and LOCKHEED MARTIN to invest in renovations of not only a government building but probably the most iconic government building in the country..... I've seen crazy theories of data farming/collection centers that could be secretly built into the new wing and again, while it seems so far out there and could never happen, so does the rest of everything that's happened in the last 10 months.

Tynan Gacy

I'm not Doug but I think I understand his point. He's not saying the judicial system is some perfect paragon of resistance that hasn't been eroded by Trump, he's saying that if the remaining actors in the government with any agency to stop him are brazenly ignored, then there's no hope for peaceful recovery. Large parts of the judicial system have been corrupted and compromised, but I don't think it's useful or true to characterize it as completely at Trump's mercy.

Tynan Gacy

I feel like this comment section as a whole really missed the point of the discussion. Aiden didn't ask whether Atrioc and Doug thought whether they thought what Trump is doing is play, he asked what they thought the "tipping point" is, when they think "(democracy) is over". People are acting like Atrioc and Doug are defending what's already happened, but that's absolutely not what they're saying, they're saying if the election isn't fair and if Trump brazenly ignores the remaining judicial system then the American democracy is over.

nickyyo

yeah but he likely will never HAVE to brazenly ignore them to get what he wants if you/doug truly believe that 3 trump appointees in a conservative supreme court are going to hold as the final pillar holding up american democracy then so be it i just have a fundamentally different view trump will erode democracy as far as the system lets him and from what ive seen there isnt a government institution that won’t buckle. whether it be in the impending decision on the VRA, roe v wade, or clarence thomas’s recent comments dismissing legal precedent - there is no end to this SCOTUS partisanship.

Ethan Meyers

But he’s already ignoring the judicial system and finding ways to skirt it. The best way of highlighting this whole situation is Innuendo Studio’s video: The South Bank of the Rubicon. We’ve crossed the Rubicon so many times it’s desensitized us beyond recognition, and Doug and Atrioc’s new goalposts have already been crossed months ago. I know they’re not defending the admin but they’re definitely missing the bigger picture as to what the admin has already done through the will of the Supreme Court’s to crush political norms.

Tynan Gacy

Atrioc's tipping point is impossible to completely cross for another year, so let's set that aside for a moment to talk about the judicial branch. I agree that he's doing his best to manipulate the court, maliciously interpret judicial rulings, and bog things down in beaurocratic quagmire to try and force through his agenda, but he still has not directly defied court order (aside from the Tik Tok thing). Even though it is becoming more corrupt and more loyal to him, the institutions themselves still have the legal ability to check his power. To convince someone who holds this as the last pillar of democracy, you'd have to show compelling evidence that either: A.) Trump is not just doing his best to legally wiggle around judicial order but outright ignoring it or B.) The judicial branch is so completely and irrevocably corrupt and loyal to him that they let him do whatever he wants with impunity. From my perspective, both things are scarily close to being true, but neither have completely come to pass. To be abundantly clear, all the horrible things he's done leading up to this point are STILL AWFUL, but if either do, then American democracy is truly over.

Ethan Meyers

“Scarily close to true” should be enough to have you in the streets calling for change. The admin has been doing this since they’ve gotten in office - pushing and pushing on the courts. And they’ve effectively gutted the use of TROs and in order to have them go into effect you have to win a court case that they’re pushing out to be years down the road. The admin has over 200 cases racked up so far, meanwhile the Supreme Court can just issue shadow dockets and basically green light open corruption. The only way things will change is when a large enough public outcry happens, which is why we should be seeing both sides screaming about the 5-alarm fires that are popping up. But both sides can make use of the melting of these constitutional walls. It just happens that the Republicans are in office, otherwise the party-line liberal Dems would love where things are going. The lines that A&Doug both said would need to be crossed for it to be an open Authoritarian rule are already paved and they have their foot hovering over the gas pedal. There are effectively no more barriers at the moment, just the fear of public backlash keeping the admin in line. If the Trump admin openly disregarded a judicial ruling what would happen? No one would be arrested. And they surely wouldn’t pay any fines. Hopefully a midterm will right this sinking ship, but it’s still going to be sinking.

Ethan Meyers

Because the historical use of the National Guard was for good reasons…Race riots, assassination of MLK, Rodney King…hmm almost like they have been used to oppress marginalized communities over and over again.

Tynan Gacy

I can't tell what your argument is. Are you trying to convince me that things are terrible and we should be protesting and voicing our dissent? If so, I already agree with you. I'm saying that the judicial system still has the theoretical ability to check the president even if he's working to undermine that. If it fails then American democracy is over, and the possibility of reform simply through public disapproval and elections is over. I don't know what the solutions are at that stage, but that's what I understood Aiden to mean when he said "tipping point". Are you arguing that American democracy is already past the "tipping point" and is unrecoverable?

Ethan Meyers

It’s passed multiple Rubicons already. Nothing is unrecoverable, but the aftermath and the inevitable Trump retaliation is going to be worse and worse the longer the little power that’s left doesn’t fight any way it can. All three of the hosts should just be more well read on these matters before taking such lukewarm stances. Even Aiden’s attempts of ‘villain-chairing’ A&Doug’s arguments were very weak softballs. Just this felt very disheartening to listen to them make all of these obvious departures from civil democracy seem ‘okay’ or ‘just what the Republicans do’.

Zachary Kress

I would argue that he has already crossed lines. For example, DOGE and the whole cutting of programs and services that were already approved by Congress, legally attacking political opponents like the lady on the federal reserve, his entire deportation plan of going after people who are in the U.S. legally and to skirt around this they are finding evidence after sending them (it’s next to impossible for a poor immigrant to legally challenge the U.S. government in courts), sending national guard to U.S. cities citing things like protecting ICE and to help police when the governors of the cities/states did not request them, using federal agencies to attack the democrats for shutting the government down, enacting tariffs due to illegal drug smuggling, I mean I could keep going on. I see it more as he is trying to consolidate power to the executive branch and because we have already seen that congress is completely fucking useless and won’t/cant do anything and getting a court ruling, especially a Supreme Court ruling, takes anywhere between 6 months to 10 years I just struggle seeing how we can just go back to normal. When one branch of the government is consolidating more powers or even challenging these powers do we think that they will just want to give those powers up in the future? Hell no. We can talk about the constitution all we want but who has the ability to challenge him? Congress won’t do anything. They will make a strongly worded letter or hell they might even impeach him but to remove him??? They wouldn’t dare do that. And the courts will what say he can’t do that and he goes nuh uh and then appeal the decision and keep doing it and let that decision keep bouncing around until we are so desensitized to that issue that some judge who will openly admit that they are a conservative and biased says yes. Where is the line at? The Supreme Court has given up on acting like they are independent and openly take money from rich people, congress is openly funded by rich people and companies to get favorable bills, the president is a rich guy who gives favorable benefits to those who come to him and give him their time and money (like the binance CEO, the chrisleys, Paul walczak, list could go on for a long time). Hell let’s not even mention the fact that there was a very clear insurrection on January 6, 2021. I just can’t see how the line wasn’t crossed long ago. Edit: I also don’t like the argument that there are still guardrails in place, but that’s the point of the other branches which has shown to be hardly guardrails. A president technically doesn’t have the power to enact tariffs, but trump did anyway. A president technically can’t revoke funding for something approved by the congressional budget for a bill approved, but trump did. The executive branch cannot use federal agencies to attack political opponents, but trump did. I just don’t see the guardrails I guess.

Jacob Johnson

I think the difference between Atrioc & Doug's take & the general comments is that people don't believe in Democracy's ability to fix itself, whereas Atrioc & Doug's do. The only frame of reference for me & many others is the past 25 years where the government has made misstep after misstep & has shown no ability to plan for the future or resolve current issues. I know that Democracy works best in a crisis, but in my entire life I haven't seen Democracy make meaningful change, so it's hard for me others to believe that Trump's damage can be fixed. If we weren't so divided as a nation I could see it being fixed easily, but I'm not sure that when Democrats get back in power, that anyone would be willing to put the country above their party.

Eddie H.

Maybe it's being saved for the main feed or it's a quirk of the recording schedule, but I was a little surprised and disappointed that there wasn't any time taken to address the criticism of the previous interview.

Ni

I liked Atrioc's final point around guilt, but sometimes as you're looking at so many parts of the world going the same way, it's hard to not go "how are we not better than this by now?" You kinda have to take a callous view on people as a collective and accept that we're just dumb and easily influenceable in large groups, and we're living through the consequences of that, and the difference you can make as one person is necessarily gonna be smaller than the problems you're seeing. Far as America's future, I do agree with Atrioc and Doug that, assuming things don't pass certain lines, the system should correct itself — hard to say that without acknowledging that many lines have already been egregiously crossed, and that so many people's lives have been and are continuing to be ruined by these moves — but I do worry about the number of things he's going to affect change on during his tenure, and how few are gonna be reversed once dems come back into power. We already saw this with Biden, and I don't have a lot of faith in the Democrats rn to allow someone who would take action to reverse all the problems Trump will leave behind. Moreover, some changes like the cuts to research funding aren't reversible in the same way — we've just lost time, and some facilities won't be around by the time that funding returns

Luke Thorne

6-7 figures for YouTube investment??

forgotten1854

To the discussion about "the End of democracy": I don't feel like the Democratic process in the USA in general is very democratic. First past the Post voting and Gerrymandering make this so unrepresantative of the actual will of the people in the first place. I think it's really hard to actually know, if the elections have been tempered with. If Trump came out on top in the 2026 election, would you be actually able to say if it was skewed in his way? Him winning a second time already feels very suspicious.

Joey

What does "he's already stacked the court" mean?! The justices just happened to retire or die. That's his this process works. If 90 year old Bernie sanders becomes president and every justice happens to leave at once, I wouldn't complain about him "stacking" the court

Bmorr

I agree it was on a downward trend before. It just accelerated a ton when trading was removed. My esports club at my school used to always have 20+ people try out despite the popularity decreasing, but now they only have 3 teams of 4. I attribute it to trading being removed because it’s not the casual players who stopped trying out. It’s the most diehard players who stopped wanting to play. I think that update made it clear that Psyonix is now about profits over everything else.

Davis Addink

Could you guys address some of the push back from the Primeagen ep? Specifically the water consumption fact check and the bootstrap pushback. Thanks

Lemonade Stand

Our next YOK is basically all about it, currently being edited - Aiden

kam

God had to offset Aiden's investment in the metals company

Robert Quinn

I'm just a couple days later, it looks like Nvidia and AMD are already looking to kick the hype can towards quantum computing monitoring next

Leo

You're right, none of those instances brought down American democracy despite the opression. So in a wider context that considers history, I wouldn't think that this NG deployment changes anything.

esp-E

The one thing I don't agree with about Doug and Atrioc's answer on Trump is that not being concerned until the last guard rail has broken seems a little crazy. That's the point of guards is to give you time to prepare if they start to fail. Waiting for the last one to fail before you get concerned in this case give a malicious party time to build up all of the offensive capability that they need before breaking the last guard in order to maximize the chance of winning once they push through.

Kieran

Damm good to know our pateron money is being well spent in adien literally butning 35grand on cs skins and again with current state of the economy and more and more people struggling and im watching him waste some serious life changing money on grabage.

nickyyo

i get the sentiment but i think that posturing is a bit disingenuous

nickyyo

will that only be available to the higher tiers

Davis Addink

Year of kindness is on the higher tier yes

Bmorr

Unfortunate

Bmorr

I will just say to look up Merrick Garland Supreme Court and read about the timeline, then compare to Amy Coney Barrett’s nomination timeline. If you don’t want to google anything, Scalia died during Obama’s presidency, and Obama nominated Merrick Garland before the 2016 election. The senate blocked the nomination and that’s how we ended up with Neil Gorsuch.

Bmorr

We need to find a way to stop Gerrymandering because neither party that will resist the power to weight the next election.

nickyyo

j thought it might be available to all given the public interest on that particular ep but i suppose that was expecting too much

Hailey “Beloved” Robeson

ey br, Aiden’s bought and had this money for a while, pretty sure the Patreon money is not being spent on that, and regardless if it is, you still chose to support these very well off people financially

Undisabled

Doug has a surprisingly high tolerance for fascism

Fine Otter

I don't think they are waiting till the last guard rail has broken to be concerned, they are openly voicing their concerns and pushing back through their platforms on the things that Trump and his administration are doing that they shouldn't be able to do. I think that what they are saying is that they are still holding out hope for the future freedom and democracy of America if those guard rails hold. The guard rails being for Atrioc free and fair midterm elections, and for Doug the authority of the judiciary being upheld. Now they didn't explain what it would mean for them if the guard rails were broken, maybe they all flee the country ASAP as Atrioc has said in the past. But I don't understand what you want them to do instead of talking about the issues and pushing back on the podcast? Are you hoping there will be a Lemonade Stand lead violent uprising?

allither

Having to pay 15 dollars to hear a proper response on the Primeeagen stuff is frankly insane. Love the pod but this is pretty disappointing.

Heroic Vileplume

True, it also feels like "the last guard rail" is not going to be the strongest, there is a critical mass where at a certain point it's just too late to do anything of value to stop them, and any remaining goal becomes an eventuality, no matter how many setbacks there are. Like, it feels like that one Pukicho post "Orcs have sieged the main gate but whatever. I am behind the second gate, which is unsiegable. " "The impenetrable second gate has been sieged, but no matter, my door is the strongest door in the realm." "Door break"

Sergei H

It's really disheartening to hear Doug and Atrioc specifically put so much weight on legal technicalities with regards to the Trump admin. It's not just the supreme court guys, remember how the TRUMP APPOINTED judge Aileen Cannon dismissed the whole of the Mar a lago classified documents case by claiming the Attorney General appointed investigator was somehow unconstitutional? Yes, she technically has the legal power to do so, but can we not agree that this is blatantly Authoritarian? She was appointed by him in 2020, and only a few years later completely exonerated him in the courts for LITERALLY stealing hundreds of highly classified government documents, all under the assertion that Trump is above the law, and as such appointing an investigator to look into his dealings is patently unconstitutional... This isn't even the only example, just the most blatant I can think of right now.. guys.. the judicial system is not the bastion of sensibility you seem to think it is.. Trump can, has been, and will continue to dismantle Democracy by it's very foundation all while abiding the courts, because they are HIS courts. Even if 1 judge stands up to him they can get the case moved to another and dismissed in a matter of days.

Jack

Aiden explaining CS skins sounds way too much like he's explaining NFTs lmao

Brian Duffy

Comforted to know that once Trump is into his third term Doug might think something is wrong

daniel

they tell us their plans and people still like to wait and see what happens. like did we learn nothing from project 2025???

chaosandcoffee

pretty disappointed this is being locked to patreon at all considering it's about a normal episode, even more disappointed it's not even real episode, but a YOK edit - was also briefly addressed in the next main feed so that's good

Matt Bettwy

Doug’s red line came to fruition barely a week later- a federal judge ordered emergency funding to be used to fund SNAP during the shutdown, and the White House effectively just said ‘no’. As expected, they always have a technicality to cite to put up the facade of legality… the USDA claimed the Antideficiancy Act prevents them from using those funds because they are only allocated for supplementation in emergencies, and that the funds can’t be used in place of Congressional appropriations. However, that’s the executive branches interpretation of the Antideficiancy Act overriding the judicial interpretation, and per the constitution interpreting laws is the responsibility of the judiciary for exactly this purpose- to avoid concentration of power in the executive branch. I’d love for the lads to do a follow up after actually looking into the details of that court case and the White House’s refusal to see if his take is any different now.

Queleb

38:50 He said he wasn't going demolish any of the actual white house structure and then tore down an entire wing. It's not as big a deal as the corruption but honestly it still sucks to see to be honest. A lot of history in the East Wing, the Flower Garden, etc.

Chad

Have you ever heard someone say something so stupid that you never listened to the again? Aidan gambling 24k on pink gloves did that for me

Chad

I gas to tap out its heart breaking to see my Boi Aidan look so dumb

SadChargerFan

Recently subbed to the Patreon and have been working backwards through the episodes and coming back to this one to hear their explanations of what would officially cross the line into "this is reeeeal bad" territory and how those were crossed within a few months is both very depressing and hilarious.