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Recorded on: 06/23/26

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0:00 - Into

1:20 - Tucker Carlson Leaves the Republicans

8:17 - How much reach does Tucker have?

19:10 - Assisted Dying in Quebec

29:02 - What are the specifics

38:09 - Midjourney Medical

42:24 - Meta's Super Original Idea

53:50 - Agency on Your Algorithm

58:37 - Faceless YouTube Channels

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Creativity Plus Stupidity

This is such a good episode I almost wish it wasnt premium just because the topics are so interesting

Creativity Plus Stupidity

My dad got into watching the news in the late 2010s, and while it used to be every channel he really latched onto tucker Tucker Who sold him on trump Made it an extremily strong supporter, even bought a flag for the house Tucker and his rhetoric also sold my dad on covid being no danger/fake My dad had copd and diabetes, he was older, massive covid risk, he refused to take any vaccine believing the "jab" was dangerous, we were only able to talk him into the Johnson & Johnson one, which im sure you know by now was pretty early known as the worst and least effective one, but to him that meant it was safer and was only one shot which was less demeaning. I lost my father to covid around 2022.... I feel as that no matter how he pivots it will be difficult to see Tucker Carlson as anyone but the man who lead him down that path,

Ethan Marshall

It seems kinda crazy to me you guys feel so opposed/unsure about this. Keeping a terminal patient suffering for days or months when they’re ready to go seems so so inhumane to me.

yuo monkey

My country (New Zealand) fully legalized euthanasia in 2021, and from my limited research it's been revered by people who choose to have it. Eligibility is very narrow, but from a healthcare perspective and perspective of the people using it, it's been a change for the better.

B. LUCA

When there is a terminally ill, patient suffering from a disease that will kill them, and will cause them extreme pain. Telling them you are not allowed to die, and forcing them to stay alive has to be a kin to medical malpractice. I should have the freedom to decide if I want to live (generally), especially if I am terminally ill, and will be in pain for the rest of my life.

B. LUCA

I think it’s insane how for so many years we have told terminally outpatient that they don’t have the right to die peacefully, and must instead wait for a slow painful death

Itsgobler

Hi, as a guy from the Netherlands that lost both grandma's to assisted dying, to be honest it kinda frustrated me how you guys are unsure about it. One of them had dementia and didn't recognize me or my family she also could not eat or walk anymore. And the other one was termaly ill from cancer and was in a lot of pain. So I think it's such a good thing to have.

Mj

I remember seeing someone with bpd who talked about this in Canada, where they were on a 4 year long waiting list to get treatment but they were eligible for assisted dying right now. Like its easier to die than to get help

Aidan

Hey, just wanted to push back on the financial incentive for the doctor to recommend MAID in Canada. Since our health care is socialized the Primary care physician would be billing the government for care provided. So in the example given the government would save the hundreds of thousands of dollars. However the doctor recommending the MAID would miss out on thousands of billable visits and treatments that they would have been able to bill the government for. So, I think the financial incentive of the doctor in a socialized system would be the opposite.

Peps

Quebecois here, it is extremely regulated and "difficult" to be approved for the medical assistance to death. There is a strict timeline where you need to have the same sentiment about having the assistance, multiple doctors appointments and psychiatric assessments needed. Doctors and nurses and other medical professionals in Quebec are obligated to acknowledge a request while personally they have the right to not want to be included in the process. It is an incredibly regulated and watched process.

Gorbort

I completely agree because I want the option to end my own life if I'm ever in a position where I'm just stuck with endless suffering until I eventually die

Lemonade Stand

That's not what I have an issue with - the problem is how other incentives clash, the state (or insurance companies) should not have a financial motivation to encourage you to end your life. You should do it because it is your free choice to do so. In a vacuum I am fully in support of the premise, people shouldn't have to suffer. - Aiden

Lemonade Stand

I mean I am talking about the state generally, not the doctors - I think the state having the financial incentive makes me uncomfortable, but generally agree with the broad premise of assisted dying - Aiden

FoxgloveLove

I know I'm in the minority here, but I feel like our society has a very unhealthy view on death in general and death with dignity. My 95-year-old grandpa was diagnosed with dementia this last year. Had to move him out of his own home (we wanted him to be comfortable in his final days) and into a special care facility that costs $7k/month because my dad couldn't take care of him anymore. Last time I talked to him while he was fully aware, he was just miserable and ready to be done. Now I'm watching him physically and mentally deteriorate over the past few months, but he's a tough SOB so it's taking a while. Now he's basically bedridden, mostly catatonic, and not eating, so basically I'm just watching him slowly starve to death. And all this is because our culture thinks that having any control over ending your own life is going to keep you from going to heaven or some bs. I'm sick of it.

Aidan

Hey! Thanks for the reply and clarification. I agree with that assessment from a state perspective, and the segment in general. There just seemed to be some pause with doctors recommending it as an option, which I don’t see as much ambiguity financially. But with regards to the state I agree becomes much more grey.

bao bao buns

Not arguing either way, but how can you say the people who choose euthanasia revere it if they are dead.

Jeff

Loved the episode, audio mixing was TERRIBLE. Lol. Everyone except Doug's voice level went from too quiet to too loud throughout the episode.

Jason Snell

Nice episode guys! Really love how you can make heavy subjects light hearted and easier to digest.

Philip R Wang

I’m a resident physician in the US with an interest in palliative care and just wanted to add some nuance to the discussion. While I agree that perhaps the system has a financial motivation to encourage MAID and reduce costs, doctors do not. There’s an old joke that the only thing stopping an oncologist from recommending another round of chemo is the coffin lid. Also, I think these discussions about when further treatment is futile also exist in the US without MAID as an option. We often have goals of care discussions with patients where we talk about things like not going to the hospital if you were sick, not wanting CPR anymore if your heart were to stop, or the futility of another round of chemo. I would argue we do something similar anyways for end of life patients who want comfort care and we end up just giving them morphine to keep them comfortable until they pass, and MAID provides more autonomy for patients who go when they choose.

Andrew Chen

Regarding the mid journey body scan. I remain pessimistic the main reason doctors don’t always recommend scans are because if they find something they become obligated to do invasive tests even if the outcome is most likely nothing. Or even if the outcome is potentially negative it doesn’t provide any happiness in knowing. An example is how Chris Hemsworth found out about a genetic disposition for Alzheimer’s and had a mental breakdown. If he hadn’t done the scan he probably would be happier overall and still be just as healthy since there is no cure for Alzheimer’s.

Peter

Finally, Tucker Time

Crim

As someone who lived in quebec for many years, its because it’s a miserable shithole

Iba Shinu

Whilst I agree with your sentiment, what I currently see in my own life is my grandpa literally age 93, voting against the interests of the future of mankind, whilst not wanting to live anymore. At my grandma's funeral 15 years ago he joked about there being space in the grave for him. He's really done, really really really done with life and while his family loves him dearly, he's so bored and done with reality and just 'waiting for God to take him' his words.

Iba Shinu

Also, furthermore, the financial incentive in America is to milk old people for all the rest of their money like cows as they slowly wither away, saving their lives over and over again as their quality of life diminishes into a trashcan. My grandma's death cost a million dollars between multiple hospice weeks, where she 'recovered'. She had ms and could barely chew her food at the end, couldn't move legs or arms or even have real bowel movements. A lot of this happens because religious people believe that suicide is a sin that will send you to hell. My grandpa and my grandma were literally waiting for it at the end because assisted suicide isn't an option for them on faith, even though their equipment doesn't work anymore.

Ghostryder

Would love a follow up on the assisted dying story, seemed to be a few things you guys werent quite sure on (totally understandable)

Huddy

As a CVICU nurse of 6 years, I’ll say all of your arguments on both sides for the “assisted dying”, however from my side of things it is still 100% on both sides as well. I will say Doug’s side of “there’s all these options, INCLUDING death” sounds very likely. In my work we tell people all the time there’s absolutely nothing else we can do for you, and that’s usually when the patients (or families) will make the decision between continuing care and it more-so being a form of “torture” since there really is nothing we can do, or they can decide “comfort care” or death. Comfort care typically includes giving morphine (for pain) + Ativan (for agitation) and we give those about every 30min to an hour until the patient passes. If you guys want a nurses perspective, feel free to message me and I we can connect via email or whatever. I obviously don’t have knowledge of Quebec’s way, but I can give you my side of things and how it goes from the hospital side of things. Let me know fellas!

Tom

I take X-rays for a living and the Midjourney full body ultrasound doesn’t sound all that appealing. Ultrasound falls under the radiology umbrella. Sound waves can only do so much and it’s mainly for parts of the body where there are large amounts of fluid. There isn’t much it could tell you about bones, brain, lungs.

NumbersGuy

Very odd episode to listen to as I work with canadian legal teams and was listening to this while working on a MAiD case

Deepinder Bedi

Quite late but on comment on this but as a doctor in Canada who has done a lot of palliative care, I wanted to clarify a few things. 1) At one point Atrioc mentions suffering a bit but waiting for a cure. - part of the requirement is that it’s only for conditions with no foreseeable cure or improvement and be in unbearable suffering with an advanced state of decline with no reversibility 2) 5.1% of deaths in 2024 were MAiD. This number seems high and surprised me initially as well but when you think about it, it’s not all that surprising. These deaths were for people who were gonna die anyways but they were given autonomy and control of their lives and chose to end things on their own 3) doctors recommending or bringing up MAiD I’m not sure about Quebec but in the jurisdictions I work in, physicians aren’t allowed to bring up the idea of MAiD. Patients have to ask themselves and we can offer information but not personal opinions. I don’t know if any doctor who would ever recommend maid. Even doctors who are pro MAiD wouldn’t tell a patient “yeah I think you should do it” or “that’s a good idea”. This is something that we talk about neutrally and only offer information on. We would never force anyone to do it as first of all, that’s murder, and second of all, the entire point of MAiD is autonomy for the patient. If we force them, we lose the autonomy so it’s counterintuitive to the entire purpose of MAiD 4) financial incentives I have never once seen anyone ever bring this topic up. This seems to be a right wing talking point as literally no doctor or nurse has ever brought this up and as someone who does palliative care, this has never even come across my mind. My goal in palliative care is to make sure my patients are comfortable. As someone who has been doing hospital and palliative care for years, I’ve seen less than 5 people undergo MAiD. It may just be less common where I work but every single one of those deaths were better received by the patient and their family as there was no suffering, no sudden unexpected loss, no loss of autonomy and no feeling of helplessness. MAiD isn’t for patients who come in with pneumonia or cellilitis. It’s for patients with chronic incurable conditions who are suffering greatly, have had control of their body stripped from and only have further suffering to look for in their future. These patients want a way to bring control back into their lives and if there isn’t any hope for a cure, MAiD can bring that control back and let patients end things on their own terms.