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This was a nice littler breather... but I'm even more scared for the rest of the series now!!! Also... COBB insert angry eyes here 

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Dan M

This is not among my favorite episodes in the series, but it has one of my favorite scenes in the entire series. Winters gets a direct order from Colonel Sink to send more men out for a 2nd patrol across the river. Winters knows the chances of more men being injured or killed is higher because they’ll have to go deeper into the town to capture German soldiers. And he can see in the faces of his men that they’re scared and nervous. So he defies his superior officer and tells the men to lie about going on the 2nd patrol, and to get a good nights sleep. Who knows how many men he saved by doing this, and as if he didn’t already earn a ton of respect from Easy company already, he cemented his status as an iconic leader in this war. At a time when moral was down, the violence and loss was at a high, and our soldiers were losing sight of why we were fighting this war, Winters displayed a tremendous amount of humanity. The man was just incredible.

Baldemort

This episode didnt show it, but the book mentions Cobb picking fights and drinking so much that he started picking fights with the mIlitary police and ended up getting arrested. As you can see, in the end of the episode you can briefly see him being carted away in a MPs jeep lol.

sassycelt

Good catch with Cobb! Yes that was Cobb in a jeep with MPs; believe the reason was his drinking and for punching an officer.

Lukasgate

Not sure about how factual it is but at least on the show, Cobb was the one that disapproved James McAvoy's character having a D-Day regiment badge even though he didn't even participate in D-Day, he chickened out of saving Bull in Normandy then took credit for it, and he was in the boat that capsized before the patrol in this episode so he didn't even partake in it. Plus he was a drunk. But he made it through Bastogne so safe to say he was going through something

Jimmie V

I'm with you with Webster. A lot of other reactors immediately side with the men getting annoyed with Webster's upbeat tone. He's one of my favorites from the series and I like most of what he does and his perspective on a lot of things. Also, it's not mentioned often, but Lt. Jones (Colin Hanks) stayed in Germany until after the war, but ended up dying in a car accident over there in '47, never returning to the states.

Jay F

Cobb was a controversial figure but his real life story is worth a movie on its own. He joined the Army in 1931 (whereas almost all of E company joined after Pearl Harbor). He fought in North Africa in 1942. He survived his Transport Ship being sunk by a German Submarine. All of that BEFORE joining the Paratroopers. AFAIK in the book it said he drunkenly assaulted an officer while in Hagenau, hence him being taken away by MPs in that scene.

Skywhale

Damn I never knew. He just seemed like a standard asshole in the show. I think I'll read up on the guy. Thank you. (after some reading) Wow.. I think, that with as much shit this guy's seen in the previous nearly-3 years of service compared with the volunteers we've followed since episode 1, I think he's totally qualified to get a bit aggressively jaded with a bottle. I really appreciate the chance to learn something about a character I've always just dismissed in all my watchings of the show. (afterward) I wonder if the show just kinda does Cobb's character dirty by depicting him as simply a jackass all this time? That's the impression I always had. ._.

celilmandir

Webster was actually warmly welcomed by the men, unlike what's depicted in the show. He was injured in "Crossroads", after they attacked the dike, caught some shrapnel from German artillery. He was the one who said “Christ they got me. Can you believe I said that?” He had been shipped all the way back to England, and was injured a lot more seriously than the show might lead you to believe. It's more the officers who had a poor opinion of Webster, not that he was a bad soldier, he never shirked any duty and never let a man down, but he also showed absolutely no ambition for making rank, and never volunteered for anything. At that point in the war, he was one of the very few original Toccoa men who had not progressed beyond the rank of Private. Eion Bailey, who plays Webster, took a few weeks' vacation in India while the rest of the cast were sweating bullets on the sound stages filming "Bastogne/The Breaking Point", since his character wasn't needed on set. When they filmed "The Last Patrol" later on (actually the last episode filmed of the series) the directors told the cast to remember Eion's relaxing vacations, and to channel this envy/resentment into their characters' cold welcome of Webster. At this point in the war, Malarkey was the Easy Co. member who had spent the most consecutive time on the front lines, having never been seriously wounded. That's why he's depicted in this episode as being so drained/exhausted, mentally and physically. Lt Jones is played by Colin Hanks, Tom Hanks' son. At first, some other actors figured he got the role thanks to some good old nepotism, but Colin's professional behavior and hard work soon won them all over. In reality, Webster didn’t take part in that patrol across the river, he stayed back running one of the machineguns providing cover. The man acting as interpreter wasn’t included in the show. His name was Forrest Guth, and he was initially written in as a full-fledged character, they even had his uniform all ready - the man LOVED to gather stuff and had sewn many additional pockets on his uniform. He was an excellent gunsmith, and was able to tweak the M1s to turn them into full auto rifles, and they were highly prized by the men, who took to calling them the "Guth Specials". Winters was one of those who was able to claim one. The only reason, as far as anyone could find, that Guth was ultimately written off the show just before filming began was that his name was too similar to Forrest Gump… It’s said in the show that Eugene Jackson was 20 when he died. However, according to his memorial, he was born in July of 1922, which means he would have been 22 at the time of his death in early 1945. Tom Hanks provided the moans of pain of the 3rd German prisoner left on the far side of the river, heard the morning after. Eventually, a few of Easy's guys tried throwing some grenades to take him out, but they all failed. Cobb then threw one in turn, and managed to kill the German, putting him out of his misery. Cobb's portrayal in the show, bitter and abrasive (like you remember, he was indeed the one in "Replacements" that got Miller to take off his Presidential Unit Citation badge), sometimes cowardly even (saying he doesn’t want to go back out to search for Bull later in that same episode), clashes with what some men have written about him in their books, some depicting him as "invariably good-natured" and a good soldier. He was one of the older and more experienced guys in the unit (30yo at the time of this episode), having fought in Africa in November of 1942, and his ship had been torpedoed on the way back. However, what can't be denied is that he did get into an altercation with a Lt. after the patrol, guns had to be drawn on him, and Col Sink told Lt Foley (the actual Lt involved in the patrol) that he should just have saved everyone a whole bunch of troubles and simply shot Cobb. Cobb would be court-martialed and eventually discharged from the Army. Very good observation noticing it’s Cobb in the jeep with MPs, I’ve seen very, very few reactors who notice that! Lt Jones would sadly pass away in 1947 following a car accident in Germany. He had been stationed there since the end of the war. Chin up Teegan, you’ve made it through the worst, it’s all smooth coasting from now on :)

Lee Aguera

He probably was an asshole, on top of being a veteran. Probably had early PTSD even before joining Easy.

Robert da Spruce

Good eye catching Cobb being taken by the MP’s! 👀 You’re the first reactor I can remember catching that. And I thought Legolas had keen eyes! 😉 As others have mentioned, yes, Cobb was the one shaming McAvoy’s character to remove the Unit citation. The new LT. is Tom Hank’s son, Colin First day of school! 🥺

Skywhale

Yeah. It's just that I'd been kinda pacing around processing this. I mean the misreporting of Blythe's fate is, yeah crummy and this was made in '01, based on what an author was able to compile into a book in the 90s based on veterans' interviews. Of course some details would slip through the cracks - later to be figured out via other sources. On a side note I think that HBO could've easily and conveniently facilitated Playtone's errata on the ending texts. It's just that no one took it upon themselves to see to it that corrections were suggested, at any point on the ladder in 23 year of hosting the video data. Now I learn that Cobb was a very well-seasoned veteran by the time they were assembling for jumps into Normandy. I just feel that's so important to know when I see the character's presence in the show and how his character's depicted through it all. I think it's just a fumbling of this and that along the way when the producers and directors were trying to put this all together into something good. I mean there's potentially infinite info to channel through, after-all. (edited more) At the end of the day I could say 'they could've done better' but I guess at the time they did the best they could. I'm just disappointed right now about it, I guess. On another side note I do think it's kind of a neat observation.. That when any reactor watches Band of Brothers for the first time, comments overwhelm episode 3 to make certain that everyone is aware of the most current information. I find that really cool and fascinating about people on the internet. It kinda responds pretty immediately with large information in some cases. It's like in some cases The Internet Cares!

Jay F

One theory I read is that a lot of the negative stuff on Cobb ("he's an asshole" stuff) came mainly from Webster's memoirs. A lot of other vets have went on record saying they never had an issue with Cobb and he wasn't anymore assholish than the average trooper. His alcoholism was indeed a thing, which tends to bring out the worst in people (especially if you've been in Combat for years) It's just one of those things like Blythe, Dike, Sobel and even Nixon. Some vets remember them as cowards, assholes, etc. While others liked them and were proud to serve with them..

Dan M

Congratulations on Baby Lite’s first day of school! What an amazing milestone for you and Daddy Lite! I got all choked up watching you get all choked up. I remember my girls’ first day of school like it was yesterday…clear as day. I hope her first day was fantastic!

Larry Darrell

I’m pretty sure Cobb went with them to look for Bull. He said he wasn’t going, but then the next shot when they were going through the trench, he was seen in the back of them.

Larry Darrell

This show, called Band of Brothers, shows the soldiers forming a tight family/brotherly bond with one another. A number of the men are shown doing whatever’s necessary to stay with their family on the frontlines, and fight alongside their brothers. There are other films and shows, that I won’t mention, that show soldiers taking every opportunity to get off the frontline for as long as they can, or even get sent home if possible. (All according to guidelines and regulations, mostly) I’ve never been in the military service, never fought in a war, but I feel like I could see both being true. One of those may have occurred more than the other. I don’t know. I get where Webster was coming from. He got injured and was sent off the line to get well. Why not take all the time allowed to stay away from danger. Every gunshot wound that you survive, could be a ticket home. I also get where many of the others that were looking down on Webster were coming from. They went through probably the hardest part of their time, up to that point, in Bastogne. Many if not most of their friends/brothers died there or were seriously injured. Many of them escaped the hospitals to get back to this Hell. I don’t know any actual facts of what really happened, just going off what was portrayed in the show. When Webster showed up at the beginning of the episode, I got the feeling, everyone had forgotten about Webster. They probably figured him for dead. He probably would have been forever remembered fondly from “simpler and happier” times before Bastogne. But when he walked up acting like everything was just like it had been, everyone got annoyed and was wondering “where the hell have you been? Why weren’t you here? You left us, you could have helped us, you asshole.” This episode was a clash of two different outlooks on soldiering. Do you follow every regulation and take every opportunity that will give You, the greatest possibility of going home safely to your family and loved ones… or do you keep the brotherhood bond tight, take every opportunity to keep your brothers in arms safe, and stick together until “The End.” Who’s to say which is right?

Clay F

Winters made the right call. Webster was wounded in E5 "Crossroads". I give the men a break on how they treated the returning Webster because of what the men experienced at Bastogne. But agree the negative interaction with Webster was excessive. Glad it worked out it the end. I like Webster.

Dan M

This is some excellent commentary, Larry. It’s one of those situations where you can empathize with both sides, but you can also lay some culpability in the actions of Webster and the men of Easy. It’s human nature to veer away from dangerous situations and do what you can to keep yourself safe. But it’s also human nature to do what you can to protect family and friends from harm to the best of your abilities. Where it can get dicey is, how much of one are you willing to sacrifice to do the other? Was Webster wrong for taking the time given to him to fully recover from his wounds? Could he have left the hospital earlier to go fight beside his brothers in Easy? Were some of the men in Easy company wrong in feeling like Webster could have done more to join up with them before the events of Bastogne unfolded? Did they misconstrue Webster wanting to be fully healthy and at full strength so he could fully contribute before he went back to the front lines as cowardice? I don’t think Webster deserved to be treated the way he was when he returned, and I don’t think he purposely avoided reuniting with Easy until he no longer had a choice. But an argument can be made for giving opinions one way or another for any of those questions above. Regardless, it was a very tough situation.

Clay F

I have watched this miniseries countless times over the last 20+ years and watched full reactions to the series by maybe 8 reactors or so. My favorite miniseries of all time. You said: "I don’t know any actual facts of what really happened, just going off what was portrayed in the show." I always assume that on any comment unless the comment notes or indicates otherwise. As you know, this high-quality series is a war action/drama with a strong factual basis, not a documentary. There are nuances that are off factually or aspects having lack of further detail (not fleshed out), but that is fine with me. I always comment within the confines of what is presented in the series (there are a couple of rare exceptions that I gave a single simple fact/clarification from real life). I do like the way celilmandir concisely gives interesting information without getting bogged down. I have enjoyed his posts. I prefer to evaluate the series based on what is presented in the series, and to view contradictory information (or further detail generally) from real life only as a side note. No disrespect to the soldiers and their families in real life -- but just less complicated (for my pea brain) to not get weighted down by real life clarifications.

Alex Gorell

Definitely the weakest episode of the series but it does have the best scene with winters telling his men to stand down and not risk another crossing.

Imzadi

I have seen this show numerous times in the past 22 years or so and never noticed.

Larry Darrell

Said it better than I did Dan. Another thing to notice in the episode, is after Sgt. Kiehn was killed in the street carrying the sack of potatoes, Lt. Jones asked Webster, “Did you know him well?” Jones asked this because he had seen Webster and Kiehn interact earlier like they had known each other a long time. Which they had. They were both Toccoa men and had been in the company from the beginning. They’re interaction with each other clearly showed they had more than just a passing acquaintance. But, Webster’s response to Lt. Jones’ question was “No, not really.” (I’m at work, so if quotes aren’t exact, please excuse. ;-) I think, Webster was learning quickly in his time back with the company, that he had never really formed that close a bond with everyone. When he was away from the company, he never had that urge to get back as soon as possible. The thought to break the rules, I don’t think even crossed his mind. He did what he was supposed to do and went where his superior officers told him to go. His return with the men in Hagenau is where, I think, he finally realized, these men were his Brothers.

Paul G

To add some additional color to the Cobb story: the show strays from reality in regards to the raid because I believe he actually killed the third German soldier that was injured in the initial breaching of the house. His actions were a little "gray" in that depending on how certain military codes are interpreted the German was a prisoner and therefore it was murder. There are so many variables though - did the German become a prisoner the instant he was snagged or does he only become a prison once he's safely back behind Allied lines? If it's the latter then shooting him on the Axis side of the river was a mercy killing or even just engaging an enemy combatant. Ultimately I don't think Cobb was ever court-martialed for the German and was only disciplined for being drunk and assaulting his CO. Regardless, he clearly suffered from extreme PTSD and while he wasn't the most likable person it's hard to not feel a little pity for him. Edit: Please correct me if I'm getting some of my facts wrong here too. I've done some reading about Easy Company outside of the show but it's been a long time so I might be getting my stories mixed up.

Robert Durant

"Soon they would be entering Germany." That title card followed by the music always gets me too. They have finally reached what is essentially the end of this war but will soon realize what it was fought for.

Anthony Cortellessa

Yes, you are right it was Cobb who chastised Pvt. Miller (James McAvoy) for wearing the presidential unit citation badge.

Dan M

I just fed off of your cues, Larry 😊

Skywhale

So my guess is that a piece of that shrapnel nicked Jackson's esophagus, and blood was leaking down into his lung(s), and he was drowning. He may have felt so panicked on the table because he's feeling it about to take him (having been a gradual feeling since getting hit).

Skywhale

I think that people can sense the instant when an enemy ceases being exceptionally dangerous, and that power balance has shifted. I think right then, anxious reflexivity begins to recede and conscious decisiveness begins to take over, when it comes to squeezing that index finger.

sammy

I will need 3 devices to watch the reaction?

Ziro the Hutt

have this playing alongside your own copy.

Ziro the Hutt

Yep he did. He was mouthy, but he was there for Bull if needed.

sammy

Spears is a boss !! Winters too !!

sammy

It's because Webster got barely hit and he did everything not to come back and everyone knew that... lot's of guys came back asap with fresh gun shot wounds ( and he avoided baston ) ....

Jerry Cook

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Jerry Cook

1 of my many autographed photos of Band of Brothers.

Ziro the Hutt

Getting these episodes up quickly? About that, its been two weeks since episode 9...

LiteWeight Gaming / Reacting

I’m doing my best, but have been incredibly sick for over a week and bed ridden. I’ll be recording the rest this week.

Ziro the Hutt

Apologies for my bluntness, and if you are/were unwell thats fine, don't rush back until you are better; its just I was subbed to another reactor recently, who, many there were a bit peeved as there wasn't any communication and it seemed like they were dragging reactions to shows out for gain. I wasn't going through that again! Edit : I see you have uploaded now episode 10 of Band Of Brothers today, I hope you didn't feel rushed on my part, but glad to see you are back anyway! :D