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Band of Brothers: Ep. 9 FULL Reaction (Patreon)

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2025-01-09 19:21:35
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Episode 9: Why We Fight hit me right in the feels!!!! It was such a difficult (but necessary) watch!

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E

oh man. Well gonna get my tissues. Probably one of the most important episodes in a miniseries, have to learn this history to not make it happen again, especially in these modern times. Thanks for sharing your experience with this series with us. Episode 10 is sososo special

TeeZee22

The holiday season is officially over and the Liteweight content creating machine is kicked into overdrive again for reactions, gaming, and the best podcast co-host ever!

Brian Scarbrough

The hardest episode. Looking forward to watching the reaction. I hope you are planning on doing the documentary also—The Men of Easy Company. It’s well worth it.

C. J. Ramirez

I swear I thought we already knew about the camps that’s why we went to war but I was hella suprised we knew nothing till we got there

Dan M

Oh damn…I know you said you’d be watching the last 3 episodes in rapid succession, but I didn’t think we’d get this one so quickly. Okay, now that you’ve seen this episode, I can say that this is probably the most disturbing and gut wrenching depiction of a Nazi concentration camp I have ever seen. Every time I watch this episode I feel sick to my stomach, the tears are big and fat, and I have a hard time getting the images out of my head. One more episode to go, and just like with the LOTR, it will be bittersweet to see your journey with BoB come to an end. I also love the fact that you’ll be reacting to the documentary for this series.

Dan M

Same

Dan M

She said in a comment over on the member chat that she would be watching the documentary. Can’t wait for that reaction.

Dan M

I’ll add an extra “so” onto your “sososo” 😊

Dan M

The other part of this episode that really got to me was Winters and the men of Easy being told that the people in the concentration camp could not be freed due to their severe medical conditions. They needed to be monitored and treated carefully in order to get them back to health. Which I completely understand. But how do you tell these people who have been so severely tortured in this hell hole that they can’t leave?!?! Liebgott is the one who is told to relay this tragic order to the prisoners of the camp. The fact that he didn’t breakdown while carrying out this order is a testament to the strength and resolve of these men.

David Trumble

It really is a masterful episode in its construction, an episode of two halves. For the first half you wonder if this will be a light, character-driven episode about the emotional, existential toll that the war had taken on the soldiers now that they had a slight reprieve from the fighting. Then, the episode shifts into that second act and the soldiers, who had become fixated on their own suffering, became presented with the true depths of human suffering that can be enacted on others, a brutal perspective shift. The whole episode is a tragic misdirection, even the bookend which begins on peaceful music only to return to that same Beethoven piece and realize that, this whole time, we've been watching a lament. Brilliant, truthful reaction.

Clay F

We went to war because Germany declared war on the United States. Had nothing to do with the camps. Before that, the US population was generally isolationist, even with Germany's treatment of the Jews -- of course, the camps did not become bigger until further into the war and were not known in detail by the US general population. Germany (ally of Japan) declared war on the United States on December 11, 1941, three days after Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. In response, the US Congress declared war on Germany. The camps that existed then were not a main issue. The attack on Pearl Harbor ended the debate over whether the United States would intervene in World War II. Americans enthusiastically supported the war effort, and isolation was no longer an option.

Clay F

Good reaction. I liked your outro. Some of the extras in the camp were apparently terminal patients (dying of cancer or other illness, and having weight loss). I understood Webster's reactions in the episode -- including his reaction (like others) to the camp, his confrontation with the baker, and him yelling in frustration at the German marching POW's. I like how the closing of the violin case signified the end of the episode, and maybe a coffin for the millions murdered. Thanks for reacting to this series. Important, as you noted.

Michael

easy did find a camp called Kaufering. From what I read, they did not rehearse the scene when they found the camp, they wanted the reactions to be real. so sad and so well done.

Robert Durant

And that is why they fight. I love how the reality of the Holocaust and the camps were kept in the background of the series up to this point and you realize after all the battles like Normandy, Holland, Bastogne, etc. when we get to this episode and you remember oh yeah we had THIS going on at the same time. And I like how Nixon's despair and his self-questioning of what all their sacrifices up to that point were for only for him to realize without saying it that it was all for those people in the camps. That even if he had to write those letters home to the families of those men who didn't make it out of the plane, hopefully their families would have taken comfort in knowing the liberation those camps would have made them proud of their sons.

Dennis D

Thank you for the excellent reaction. Easy Company did discover and liberate a smaller camp near Dachau. You asked the question, what would happen to the German citizens who might oppose the Nazi regime. The movie Valkyrie provides one example. I suggest you watch and react to the movie "Sophie Scholl: The Final Days". There were Germans who opposed the Nazis, but it usually did not end well for them. i

Paul G

The French soldier who executes the German prisoners was played by Tom Hanks. He also appeared in the background as one of the rescued British soldiers in the Crossroads episode (you can see him on the left of the screen if you pause during the celebration scene at the end of the episode). Edit: I was wrong about the French solider! Thank you celimandir for setting the record straight!

John Thomas

Definitely one of the harder to watch episodes. My dad enlisted and was sent to Germany right at the end of the war, so he is also considered a WW 2 vet. After Germany he was sent to Korea, just before the Korean War began.

Dan M

I knew about his brief stint in Crossroads. Didn’t know about this one. Thanks for the fun fact 👍

Dan M

I like your take on the violin case closing at the end, Clay. To me, the opening scene and the closing scene with the quartet playing a piece by Beethoven had a similar effect as the trio that played while the Titanic was starting to sink in Titanic. The Titanic, in this case, being Germany.

Alex Gorell

High ranking officials had an idea what was happening but not the full extent of it. The soldiers had no idea.

C. J. Ramirez

Couldn’t imagine seeing that as a soldier for the first time

Clay F

My grandfather served in the occupation of German immediately after the war. He brought back a German pistol. My other grandfather serving during the war as tank gunner in North Africa and was awarded a medal for destroying a bridge. Then, he landed on a Normandy beach on D-Day. He rarely talked about D-Day, but he told my brother that he could hear bullets whistling by.

celilmandir

It's not Tom Hanks in Ep9. It just looks like him. I'll put a pic in the community chat so you can see.

celilmandir

There are no words that can properly depict the horrors mankind is capable of.. Congrats on holding it together so well, it's no mean feat in the face of this absolutely brutal episode, ironically the worst of them all despite the complete absence of any explosion, or any gunshot fired by/at anyone from Easy. Like you noticed, something that would leave Randleman, Speirs and Winters shaken would need to be extremely awful. The portrait of the German officer in the old woman's house is one of a man in the Army, not the SS, though he very well could have still adhered to the Nazi doctrines. The black ribbon on the corner of the frame indicates the man is deceased. That woman is ultimately the only splash of color in the entire episode, with her red coat (a nod to Schindler's List?) while everything else is in drab colors of brown and grey and beige. The main cast was kept away from the work camp and its extras until they were ready to film these scenes, so when the soldiers first get off the trucks, the look of disbelief on their faces is very genuine. These extras were for the most part men suffering from severe cancers, or undergoing chemo. Many of them didn't even live long enough to see the show air on tv. That work camp would likely have been one of the Kaufering camps, near the town of Landsberg, part of a system of subcamps attached to the Dachau concentration camp. 12th Armor Division found the camp first, and Easy came afterwards to provide support. I'll briefly cover something related to the next episode, since it's referenced several times in Ep10 but it's barely explained at all. I've seen a lot of reactors spend the entire episode puzzled about the system and how it works, so I figured I could clarify it before you watch it instead of after. Once the Germans surrendered and the war ended in Europe, there was a points system in place to determine who could go back home and who needed to stay in Europe a bit longer. A soldier needed 85pts to be eligible for a discharge, and here's how the points were earned: - 1pt per month of military service - 1pt per month of military service overseas (cumulative with the previous one, so if you were in the army 12 months and spent 6 of those months in France, this earned you 18 points) - 5pts per combat award (Medal of Honor, Distinguished Service Cross, Distinguished Service Medal, Legion of Merit, Silver Star Medal, Distinguished Flying Cross, Soldier's Medal, Bronze Star Medal, Air Medal, Purple Heart) -- Though you'd think they could have made some awards worth a bit more.. Medal of Honor worth the same as Purple Heart is a bit odd to say the least. - 12pts per dependent child under the age of 18 (up to a max of 3 children) - 5pts per campaign they participated in (Egypt-Libya / Air Offensive, Europe Algeria-French Morocco / Tunisia / Sicily / Naples-Foggia / Anzio / Rome-Arno / Normandy / Northern France / Southern France / North Apennines / Rhineland / Ardennes-Alsace / Central Europe / Po Valley ) So someone who had been in the army for 3 years (+36), spent a year and a half overseas (+18), had one child under 18, (+12), participated in the Normandy and Rhineland campaigns (+10), and earned a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart (+10), this man would have 86 pts and could be discharged and go back home once the war ended.

Dan M

This is a great post…thank you for all of the information.

Paul G

Aw, damn! I’ve got some fan forums to go yell at now!

Randolph Tirazona

"Memphis Belle" (1990) is another Great WWII movie, albeit hardly anyone mentions it. A lot of great actors including: Samwise Gamgee!

scott osborne

The part in this episode that makes me laugh is when one said hitler should of killed himself 3 years ago and saved us the trouble. That is the most selfish thing in the whole series ever said making it sound like it was only america fighting the war. This was a horrible reaction i could see your heart was breaking with every second. when i say horrible i don't mean its a bad reaction i meant its bad for you cause it would upset you to tears Yes Easy Company did find that camp

CVMA Arlo

Good take, all true. I prefer to imagine that by "us," Nixon meant the Allies collectively.

scott osborne

Nixon didn't say that though he just went along with it Nixon said "yeah he should've but he didn't" If the one meant to say for all the allies he would've said 5 years ago and not just 3

CVMA Arlo

Yeah. I prefer to enjoy the show and not get overly technical and critical. I am fluent in German and have lived in Europe for seven years, both Austria and Germany. I consider myself pretty well-read on WW II history, too. I have seen the US-centric attitude you mention, but it is normally only found among the inexperienced, and I don't let it bug me.

Myth Oceanas

What a German civilian knew depends on at what time you ask. They say the “Jewish Question” because it escalated, from simple relocation, to forced labor, to what was discovered at the end of the war. Even Hitler didn’t know, nor did care, on the specifics. Even when a substantial amount did figure it out most of the civilians late in the war were all to old or to young to do anything, all the fighting age men were either dead or fighting the allies and disconnected. Remember the US did put its Japanese citizens, at the same time, in labor camps. And to this day is still one of the darkest moments of the US home side war effort.

Robert Durant

But also remember Hitler still had the rest of his command structure continuing the war and Holocaust. Even if he had offed himself years before the US got involved one of his generals in the Third Reich would have taken his place and who knows how worse it could have gotten. The Third Reich had to be completely dealt with until the war was at it's end.

Jeroen

Sorry but that's not true. Hitler 100% did know. 1 of Hitlers main goals in his rise to power, was the extermination of all jews. He literally mentioned it openly in interviews going back to his days of campaigning for power, even before he was elected. The earliest we know of, that he made statements of "The Jewish Question" and "exterminating jews" was in 1922. The theory that Hitler didn't know, is based completely based on academics saying that there was no written order found that was signed by Hitler him self, and since there is no written proof he wasn't involved. But not only did he have reasons not to write certain things down, but at the end of the war, the Nazi's made a point of it to destroy official documentations that could be used as proof against them, when they knew the war was lost. So even if there was a specific decree, that would have been destroyed with all the other documentation that was destroyed to hide what they where doing. But if you look further back, you'll probably understand why there was no written order or decree, concerning this topic during the final years of the war. Since no definitive written order is "known" to exist, you have to look for other alternative evidence. and believe me, it paints a very clear picture. Many sources of evidence, proving Hitler's direct responsibility for developing and implementing the Final Solution, are not that hard to find, the information is everywhere, but most people don't seem to want to put the piece of the puzzle together. It's easier just to accept what is determined as the norm. - One of the most important sources are the countless transcripts and video recordings of Hitler's public statements and speeches, regarding the 'Jewish Question'. Also his closest political party members mention it. Giving us further evidence of the Nazi effort to hide the Final Solution. As seen in a speech by Himmler to a meeting of SS Generals in Poznan, Poland on October 4, 1943: “We will never speak of it publicly... I mean the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish race... The Jewish race is being exterminated... that's quite clear. It's in our party program, so it must happen..." - Another very important piece of evidence, is the earliest piece of verbal evidence from Hitler. Pointing to his personal premeditation of the Final Solution, is a statement he made to a journalist called Josef Hell, during an interview in 1922. Hitler stated “Once I really am in power, my first and foremost task, will be the annihilation of the Jews. As soon as I have the power to do so, I will have gallows built in rows... Then the Jews will be hanged indiscriminately... until all of Germany has been completely cleansed of Jews.” This statement clearly shows that even before taking to power, Hitler had begun premeditating his plans for genocide against the Jews. These plans rapidly escalated once the war expanded and Hitler got more power hungry, and felt to be untouchable. First he wanted all German jews dead, then he wanted all jews in the "third Reich" dead, as it was expanding. Then he wanted all jews of the entire continent Europa dead. - Also, Hitler had started gassing people in 1939, and yes, it was a written decree. The "T4 program" was disguised as a "mercy death" for "patients" deemed incurable. Though in 1940, the German people started to find out parts of what was going on, and rumors started creating uproars in the streets. The general population became increasingly aware that thousands of mentally and physically disabled Germans, or "Germans deemed unfit for Hitlers ideal society" (we all know what that means) were being "mercy-killed" by the Nazis. In a Hitler-sanctioned state program. Between 1940 and 1941 the German people's negative reaction became increasingly vocal, culminating in Hitler being openly degraded by a crowd, while he was watching mentally challenged patients being loaded onto a transport train at a rail station in Hof, in Bavaria in 1941. This negative public reaction to the T4 program and Hitler's sanctioning of it, boosted by the denunciations from the Catholic and Protestant church leaders, which are very prominent in Germany to this day. Forced Hitler to publicly cancel his "mercy" program around the end of 1941. Though it continued in secret, until 1945 as we know now. - While Hitler had to publicly distance him self to hide the program, he WAS still involved in the "experimentation for the good of human kind". With both deathly experiments on prisoners, as well as finding new ways to kill. One of which resulted in the first gas chambers, which where basically repurposed old ww1 tanks that where sealed off from the outside, from were they pumped gas into the vehicle to let the prisoners that where sealed in, suffocate to death. This is also how they started experimenting with liquid gas, and in which formulas gas and cionid would be most lethal and quickest to kill. From these old repurposed tanks, they developed a new idea, which became the "mobile chambers" which were created from steel vans, these where known as "Spezialwagens" (special vans), to be used in Razia's and manhunts. basically instead of bringing the prisoners to the gas chambers, they brought the gas chambers to the prisoners. It's later on that death camps as we know them started being build, because the tanks and the vans where considered not big enough. - At the same time, the Nazis also started gassing political prisoners at Fort VII in 1939. The first political victims of this escalation were Polish and Jewish inmates of asylums for the mentally ill. Most of them where only declared mentally ill because they resisted their imprisonment, and where there for "to difficult to handle", and deeming them mentally ill, was an easy way to dispose of them, since they would be gassed. It was Hitlers plan all along, and he definitely knew. Maybe not all the details from every stage of the process of experimentation, but the rest he knew. You just have to look past the surface, instead of a few documentaries made by 5 academics, who solely base their conclusion on not having seen a specific decree signed by Hitler himself.

SEAN ƴü KAY

Hey, you can't just be introducing facts and being right and educated and correct with stuff all over the place all the time. Just cuz you are accurate and have this educated "proof" stuff doesn't give you the right to be nice and cool and collecred as well. Just let it go and walk away knowing that we say good things about you behind your back and deal with it... I mean, jeez. (Very well put sir, thx for typing it. You rock)... ...or something...

Myth Oceanas

You typed all that just to agree with me? Again, it’s time related pre 1940 was one thing, 1941 into 42 another, the Final Solution from 1942 to 1945. And Hitler again, didn’t care about the specifics as I said, he just didn’t want it to impair the war effort. Nothing I said was untrue.

Ziro the Hutt

Ah, this is a reminder of when Yanks used to fight Nazi's, instead of vote them in. At least Hitler promised hope, whats Fuhrer Elon Musk and his puppet offering the people; except to make themselves richer, doom Ukraine and destabilise Europe, so that they can suck up to Putin, and also suffocate the planet to death. Now Americans are the bad guys. Ironic...

Ziro the Hutt

I also love the juxtaposition between such exquisite music, composed by one of mankind's true geniuses - a German - and what his country, who was at the height of culture and science at this time, were capable of becoming.

Ziro the Hutt

Coming from the UK, I wish we were more like the French at times also! They do like a whinge, but they take no BS! :D

Blink More

couldnt wait any longer, had to sub to the patreon to finish your reaction to this series. Thank you, rough episode, you are the best <3

Ryan Towell

Yeah Easy liberated quite a few camps near the end