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Robert da Spruce

Great episode! (Well, they’re all pretty great) Can’t wait to watch your reaction!

Soopa

I consider this the first (but definitely not the last) 10/10 episode.

Derek Little

Great reaction to a great episode 👏 The phrase you were reaching for was, 'The ends justify the means'. Not a direct quote, but the ideal was attributed to Niccolò Machiavelli (according to Wikipedia)..which, yeah, says it all really! The overall goal may be noble, but what are you willing to do, willing to sacrifice to achieve it. 🤔

Sigma957

Thank you for putting this episode up so quickly after the last one. I was dreading the wait. The surprise when I realised the wait was over absolutely made my day. I loved it, as usual... that's NOT a surprise :~)

Guernsey

Ha heads up, the next episode is actually a standalone, then 8-10 are an arc, then 9-10 (edit:11-12!) are a concluding set. Season 2 definitely does four 3-episode arcs. Also, this was amazing arc to re-watch... but compared to some of the later arcs in S1 and most of S2... let's just say it gets better. And more emotionally devastating, lol sorry.

MattN

great react and you bring up a great point, that in order for the revolution to achieve a "good outcome" sometimes they have to do bad things. A classic consequentialist argument that the ends justify the means, i.e. the morality of an outcome is determined solely by the outcome. the tricky thing is when you use that same framework for other people. for example, Syril Karn, the cop in the first arc was trying to catch someone who murdered two other cops, Timm(Bix's bf) was turning in a wanted criminal, the members of the ISB are trying to maintain a secure society. in the real world we can again use this to justify(or vilify) the crimes of actual revolutionary movements, like the IRA, the South African ANC, hamas, sandinistas, zapitista army, etc... without a solid ideological foundation it's easy to just become a mercenary or thief like skeen or cassian. one reason i love this show is it forces you to come to terms with these issues. when is it too far? is it ever too far? are people in the empire bad because they are inherently bad people? or are they bad because the system is bad and they're following it? are the rebels bad because they do bad things for a good reason? at the end of the day people are still traumatized... these are just very interesting things to think about and I like that andor makes you think that. ALSO i have seen this show a bunch but i never looked at the shelves in luthen's shop until you brought it up and i just saw the rocks from indiana jones & the temple of doom! such a fun easter egg!!!

Marty McGee

RIP Nemick. You'll get to hear more of his manifesto over the course of the series. I feel like Cassian is pretty different from Skeen because he grew up with Maarva and Clem and has friends like Brasso and Bix. Skeen sounds like he spent the majority of his life in prisons and youth centers. Also Skeen is a manipulator that is ONLY out for himself. That's not who Cassian is. But maybe he realizes that he could have been Skeen if not for his family. Don't worry too much about how you're putting out these episodes. The first season released eps 1-3 the first week then went to a once a week release. Season 2 however was released 3 at a time and have definite arcs.

Robert da Spruce

My interpretation is Skeen made up the whole story about his brother. Could be, like you said, “I have no brother” (cuz he’s dead). But I’m leaning towards the former And the saying you were looking for is “The ends don’t justify the means” 😊

AdmiralZhou

Now you can see why Skeen didn't really cover Taramin. Don't know if he purposefully let Taramin die or he was just more focused on himself so he didn't try to cover as much. Also Skeen's actions puts a spin on why he pushed so hard to go to the doctor. He wanted to get the ship down and separate Vel so he could have a chance to take the ship and money. I love this arc so much, just kept you on edge the entire episode

NK

Yeah, Andor shows you how the rebellion sometimes makes choices you might disagree with in terms of morality in the name of the greater good and the cause. It also doesn't shy away from the fact that the rebellion can also be brutal, cold and heartless. BUT at the same time it also never lets you forget what they're fighting for & who they're fighting & that ultimately their cause is still just. There will never be a way to peacefully and morally end a facist dictatorship and military regime as entrenched and powerful as the Empire.

RP

Ep 7 is a bridge episode, 8-10 are a 3 episode arc, and 11-12 is a 2 part conclusion. Season 2 is definitely 4x 3 episode arcs.

Stefan Au

about the moral compass of the rebels: keep in mind that we haven't seen the ACTUAL entity that we know as "Rebel Alliance" from Rogue One and the original trilogy... that entity exists - somewhere in some form, but they get their intel and support from many, many different resistance cells, spread across the galaxy - with very little connective tissue between those cells and the main thing - and no conective tissue between the individual cells. Some of these cells exist because their planet experienced violence, forced labour, or enslavement at the hands of the empire, others because they don't agree with the empire being a dictatorship that replaced a democracy, others because of economic reasons ... as they said in the show: everyone has their own rebellion. So naturally, each of these rebel cells has its own moral compass, and some of them are more militant than others and take a more direct /violent approach than others. As we know from Rogue One, though, the main thing (the Rebel Alliance) has been known to cut ties with rebel cells that were too militant, too violent, or too reckless (Saw Gerrera's group, for example.

Joseph Olson

RIP Taramyn RIP Lt. Gorn RIP Nemik. You'll be proud of Cassian when you meet him next. Skeen got what he deserved. I have no doubt that he would have killed Cassian as soon as they got to where he wanted to go. Someone who would betray people he had spent 5 months with would certainly betray someone he only knew for 3 days.

Jenny Chalek

Skeen made it up. He didn't have a brother at all.