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143 - Dennis Prager’s For Goodness Sake (feat. Tall Bart) (Patreon)

Published:
2024-06-19 06:45:01
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2025-04-22 13:27:15
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Tall Bart (@verytallbart) joins the lads for another dip into the Prager Pool as they interrogate the painful sketch comedy and baby-brained moralizing of Dennis Prager’s educational video series: For Goodness Sake. Topics include Prager’s unique rhetorical style, the bafflingly high-profile cast, and how David Zucker, Trey Parker, and Matt Stone had their hand in helping Dennis Prager tell the world about just how much he hates babies.

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Media Referenced in this Episode:

The For Goodness Sake Playlist:

For Goodness Sake dir. David Zucker, 1993.

For Goodness Sake 2 dir. Trey Parker, 1996.

Character: Who Needs It (Training Version), 1996.

“Who is Dennis Prager?” by PragerU, 2019.

“Are People Born Good?” by PragerU, 2014.

“Mixed Messages : Simpson Is Hastily Edited Out of Film on Values, but Some Prefer the Original” by Gordon Dillow. Los Angeles Times. June 22nd, 1994.

“O.J. Simpson Has Cameo In Training Movie About Ethics, Morality With AM-Simpson-Abuse Laws” by Lynn Elber. Associated Press. June 22nd, 1994.

TWOAPW theme by Brendan Dalton: Patreon // brendan-dalton.com // brendandalton.bandcamp.com

Commercial: “For Goodn3ss Sak3 3”

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Lain of the Wired

his talking about sins of omission is very catholic lol

Lain of the Wired

honestly what got from this is he seems remarkably unhappy

Lain of the Wired

i suppose in the end this dudes project just seems like its a way to convince others and himself that they are actually good people and dont need to to good to be good? idk he seems very strange

Nemo

I don't know how Jim Henson got his legs to move on the bike like that

Fruitless

One thought I have about Prager’s whole deal that humans cause more suffering than natural disasters or illness is that he’s also playing a weird game with the problem of evil. He’s really invested in maintaining his specific religious system ("Judeo-Christian", heavy air quotes) and so he needs to dismiss the notion of natural evil somehow. It’s the same thing a lot of Enlightenment thinkers were trying to do; if we can get rid of the category of natural evil by focusing on moral evil, then there aren’t any difficult questions about why God would allow it. But even more nefariously, it allows for an erroneous belief in a just world, where inequalities must be the byproduct of moral failing. You can see why a conservative would be invested in that belief.

Eaklebee

Please never make any of us endure the sound of Dennis Prager saying "I want nipple" again. It's disturbing.

Nathan Woods

"I want nipple, I want milk, I want mommy" Put THAT on a T-Shirt

Andrew T. Wilson

I think Prager is actually right about "getting better as you get older", but only in a way that undermines his previous argument. We have a pretty good understanding of how the human brain develops over the course of a life, and we know when the parts of the brain that deal with qualities we might call "goodness" appear in the brain. The most important thing to remember is that these regions grow and develop completely without intervention. Yes, a baby is "amoral", but a toddler is slightly moreso, a child moreso, a teenager should be more moral but hormones are a hell of a thing, and so on. It is not that goodness has to be taught, it is that our civilization is designed to remove the elements which encourage our innate goodness and encourage those that create people who can only see morality as transactional, like Prager.

John Leavitt

This guy sounds like the most stereotypical boomer dad alive, right down to basically getting everything you want and still nagged by the idea that it’s not enough or people don’t really love you enough. If we’re pulling Freud he probably hates babies cause he sees them as competition. Anyway I always liked this essay in What Makes A (white, comfortable) Boomer Dad and how they’ve all gone more or less insane from getting what they thought wanted https://keithpille.com/tom-clancy-and-the-dubious-comfort-of-boomer-dads/

Amelia Moss

Dengist Prager is a revisionist

Breathplay

Praeger absolutely, regrettably, oozes charisma for evangelicals, the same way as CCM and AI shrimp jesus register as authentic to them - intense jumbles of signifiers which are only legible to people completely disconnected from the signified. Peterson and Shapiro both had broad appeal among my parents and their friends by presenting howling derangement as intellectualism, but Praeger's affect hits especially close to home because it's familiar from authority figures I knew personally in that community - certain pastors, the headmaster at the "classical" school, men held up as community pillars yet whom children feared and clearly loathed the whole world and all in it - the signifiers of "worldliness" meshed with the signifiers of "a man of god," adding up to someone who confirms all of these people's insecurities and neuroses in a way that superficially seems secure and even-handed.

Gorbant

The cover art inspired me to search for some nice Dennis Prager feet pics. That's truly a man who has legs and feet.

Max

Dennis Prager is who Yiddish speakers invented the phrase “a shande far di goyim” (an embarrassment to the entire Jewish people, in front of everyone) for. Full body winced at the reminder he was Jewish.

Noblese Oblahaj

I thought the Bill Maher approach was when you did a line of coke and blew a dog whistle

Ellie Yeoman

Dennis Prager sounds way too much like Cave Johnson from Portal 2...

Ceru

The first and only podcast to impragernate me with its seed