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191 - Casablanca (1942) (Patreon)

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2025-05-28 06:00:07
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2026-06

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The lads grab their papers and hop a plane to Morocco as they cover Michael Curtiz’ 1942 Bogartfest: Casablanca. Topics include the goblin energy of Peter Lorre, the GOATness of Victor Laszlo, and what it means to drown out fascists by belting out “La Marseillaise”.

Media Referenced in this Episode:

Casablanca. Dir. Michael Curtiz. 1942.

Everybody Comes to Rick's

TWOAPW theme by Brendan Dalton: Patreon // brendan-dalton.com // brendandalton.bandcamp.com

Interstitial: Pages 7-12 of "The Hidden Enemy," written and performed by Josh Boerman

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P.A.L.

I wasn't sure if this was also part of the "Tony Ditty favorite movie season", but if it was I was prepared to accept that I seem to have the same tastes in movies as him. This is one of my absolute favorite movies of all time, and considering you also recently did "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" which I also completely love, I'm looking forward to this one a lot.

P.A.L.

A+ use of "Tetrapartite" by Brian btw

Joseph E.

The cowards at Disney changed it to "Jatz" music.

Ctolm [the t is silent]

The stuff in Paris all happened in 1940 so casting another actor would have been odd. They've only been apart for like 18 months after a whirlwind romance.

Ctolm [the t is silent]

I am tenterhooks for the next chapter in the great space opera Hidden Enemies.

Nick Gully

Here’s looking at you.. throwing your social media awaaaaay

Corey Bushle

So many possible worlds, but we THREW OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AWAAAAY?

Dylan Wignall

Carry on! You will always remember! Carry on! Nothing equals thRowing YoUr SoCIAL MEDIA AwAY?

HollyBroWoo

I’d love for the fellas to do an episode on “Mommie Dearest”

Allen

Play it (the podcast episode) again, Sam.

HollyBroWoo

Re: the scene where the bar sings the French national anthem, the closest comparison I can make is BLM protesters breaking into Kendrick Lamar’s “Alright” while they were marching. Also! The scene in the bar was redone in the $65 million animated disaster “Foodfight” starring Charlie Sheen and Eva Longoria

Rob F

When did the lads talk about “The Searchers”? I really like that movie, and want to hear the discussion.

Michael Morgan

Was lucky to spend some time in Morocco on r and r when I was overseas - went to Casablanca and it is a beautiful city, the Medina is worth the trip alone, we grabbed lunch at Ricks Cafe where they have the movie playing on a loop in the gambling room - though this was almost 10 years ago so I don’t know if it’s still set up

Melody

It's particularly poignant to me that your final take on this is about taking action against fascists and Rick being a symbol of how you can wait at Rick's and hate yourself or do something scary to help people. The way that changes everything in your guilt and self-imposed misery born out of cowardice. I came out as trans last September and Rick was my deadname. The trans community and undocumented community are the modern day equivalents of the people who may need to get out and need help against the fascists. The fear around coming out and doing something to help this community as an act of rebellion kept me "at Rick's" in an incredibly real way.

The Worst of All Possible Worlds

just being yourself, fully honestly and apologetically, is one of the single most radical acts a person can take, especially in this climate

Melody

Thank you for making this episode. I think I really needed to hear it.

Sehnsucht

Started the episode cackling, ended it weeping. Great work lads.

notified.tortoise

About the dueling scars - academic fencing, or mensur, is really interesting. It's not technically a Nazi thing, it's a university fraternity thing, but it was most common with aristocratic or upper middle class conservative fraternities and the Nazi officer corps was full of people from those groups.

Jacob King

“Tennis, anyone?” was a mid century meme. It’s used as a non sequitor for quitting an awkward situation. There’s literally no reason anyone should know this but it is a thing your most annoying friend would have said in the 1940s .

Gorbant

It's worth a look at public domain image repositories to see what 19th c. dueling scars looked like. They are GNARLY and way worse than you'd guess. There was also, of course, a market for 'faking' scars through faux duels and backroom surgery.

Jordyn Clementi

I've been thinking of these all day: With their tanks and their guns and their bombs in your heaaaad in your heaaaaaad, they are THROWING YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA AWAYE!!

Maxton

During the dueling song scene, Brian got his facts mixed up in a way that I feel underplays the importance of La Marseillaise. It was written as a revolutionary anthem during the first war of the French Revolution in 1792 by volunteers…from Marseille. It was a song that cut to the revolutionary core of the French Revolution: we are all brothers, defending the land from reactionary foreign invaders who wish to destroy the revolution. This makes it even more poignant to me since this song, which was as controversial and poignant as The International when it was made (it was banned in Russia up until the 1890s!), represents a song about universal brotherhood and the nation in danger, two ideas so present in 1941 France. It embodied 19th century revolutionary liberalism and French national identity in a way I feel that is very distinct from the nationalist German song playing, which was, as Brian said, written in the 1840s during the Rhine Crisis when France made diplomatic statements about annexing the West Rhine. And the song completely lacks any revolutionary idealism in place of pure nationalist blood and soil, So the songs represent two conceptions of the nation: the latter song totally in like with the Nazi ideology of nationalist anti-revolutionary sentiment which was meant to supersede and destroy the revolutionary ideals of La Marseillaise. Sorry for the rant but I feel it makes the scene more potent and made their point about the internationale being a modern equivalent that much more well-observed. Thanks for the great episode!

Max

I believe the consensus is that Conrad Veidt was probably bisexual. He was definitely hanging out with a lot of queer people. There’re a couple of anecdotes about him crossdressing as well.

UD-wat

Casablanca is on the Atlantic coast, plenty of fog potential

John Benfield

On the offchance someone hasn't heard it yet, I highly recommend the album Addicted To Bad Ideas by The World/Inferno Friendship Society. It's all about the life and times of Peter Lorre, and the song "Everybody Comes to Rick's" is about his experience filming Casablanca and includes his famous quote "The world is falling apart, and you want me to make a picture?"

Maple

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John Leavitt

I have two Casablanca bits I want to relate but I will say the director character in HAIL, CEASAR! Who says “Do you enjoy physical culture?” is a direct reference to the director of this movie

John Leavitt

Also “going to the movies at that time” was more like television in that it was continuous play with shorts and newsreels between so you pay a bit to go in and see what’s on - the origin of “oh this is where we came in” - PSYCHO finally killed that by not allowing people to be seated after the movie started which is ironic since half the reason PYSCHO got made was Hitchcock using his fast and cheap TV crew Fun fact there was a one screen theatre in 40s-60s era Hollywood The town that just showed Westerns all day every day and I keep trying to set something there and I can’t so someone else do it

John Leavitt

ALSO on German movie stars moving to the US: Marlene Dietrich was offered an insane sum to head the new Nazi film industry and didn’t take it but did muse to people that maybe she should so she could seduce and kill Hitler - she would be naked of course so she thought of using a poisoned comb - anyway her songs where so popular with German soligers they had to be banned and if you read between the lines of her post war USO shows she might be there in some interrogations like it’s okay Marlene is here just tell us where the bunker is etc etc Anyway she refused any role about Germany or Nazism post war except for A Foreign Affair cause it was pitched to her as what happened to Lola Lola after the war and how she survived and it has her best musical number , all about post-war scarcity and directly inspired Cabaret https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x14hwt5

Elizabeth Power

I just started the podcast, but I just wanted to say thanks for convincing me to watch this movie, I had such a great time and went in with almost no prior knowledge, and now it gave me a lot of things to think about and I feel better about life. I enjoyed the similar vibes to Cabaret, with everyone having a good time in the bar and then the Nazis ruin everything. Also, AJ and Josh have excellent old movie actor voices.

Elizabeth Power

I don’t think I’ve ever heard a better hilarious combination of three different jokes than meowing in the hall of mountain King and singing “throw your social media away”

Nemo

I just wanna THROW MY VICHY WATER AWAAAAAAY

BarFly

An earlier Bogart picture that might be worth you guys looking at is Black Legion, which is a Warner drama about Bogart's character being drawn into a Midwestern offshoot of the Klan. It's not a great movie but I find it quite interesting.

I Love Brian Alford's Bible Corner

Speaking of remembrance, you guys inspired me to archive how my college experienced COVID. I'll be doing the research (interviews., etc.) in the fall and donating to our archives in March 2026. So thanks.

Greg Dean

I love 'The Hidden Enemy', it's just like Laurie Anderson's 'Ruby', finally Josh has his own Horse Corner.

Phillip Alden

Hey there guys. I’m the worst of all possible Phil’s. Long time listener first time commenting, (well, questioning really.) And my question is thus: What sources do you use when doing movie research? And I’d be curious about theatrical research too, keeping in mind your collective knowledge from experience. I was a theatrical lighting tech, starting out in the Palo Alto Children’s Theater and then doing it for a living as often as I could. I worked for Stanford and UT Austin as a multimedia tech, which was occasionally traditional theater. I study history and rock/pop music and I write articles about the music I love. Also to all my fellow worst of all possible whatever your names are, same question: What sources do you use for movie and theater research? Happy holidays in the fires of our dying empire.

Zipzapzop

You guys missed John brown’s body as the woke American song