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194 - Everywhit (feat. We’re Not So Different) [Whit’s Endless Summer 44] (Patreon)

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2025-06-18 06:00:08
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Dr. Eleanor Janega and Luke Waters from the We’re Not So Different podcast join the lads on a medievalist romp through the world of morality plays as they cover the story of Everyman and two of its progeny: the works of Jack Chick and a little show called Adventures in Odyssey. Topics include the Dutch origins of Everyman, the horrors of being eternally judged while nude, and the insidious pedantry at the heart of the evangelical movement.

We’re Not So Different: A mostly Medieval history podcast about how we’ve always been idiots

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WNSD and American Prestige Present: Welcome to the Crusades: The First Crusade

The hosts of American Prestige and We’re Not So Different join forces to examine one of the seminal events in world history: the Crusades. Season 1 focuses, appropriately enough, on the First Crusade, requested by a Byzantine Empire under threat and called by a Catholic Church eager for a “great cause.” You’ll follow the expedition from its origins in Europe to the walls of Jerusalem as we try to understand why this Crusade, unique among its sequels, ended in success for the Crusaders.

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Dr. Eleanor Janega: Bluesky

Luke Waters: Bluesky

Media Referenced in the Episode:

Everyman

The Text - Project Gutenberg

Lego Version

GSMC Classics: Great Plays Episode 120: Everyman

Chick Tracts

This Was Your Life

You Have a Date!

Adventures in Odyssey

#442a: “Two Roads”

“Human Boyg Guy: Peer Gynt, ft. Brian Alford” The Socialist Shelf. October 8th, 2024.

TWOAPW theme by Brendan Dalton: Patreon // brendan-dalton.com // brendandalton.bandcamp.com

Interstitial: “C.S. #2085: The Provenance Incident, as Recounted by Alistair Adelman on the Carolinian Bound for Provenance, North Carolina on June 18th, 2000” // Written by A.J. Ditty // feat. Brian Alford as “Alistair Adelman”, A.J. Ditty as “Melvin Mulligan”, and Josh Boerman as “The Conductor” // “The Chain” Violin Cover by Steve Bingham, Arrangement by Rowan Marshall

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Zipzapzop

Really hope you have return to jack chick his work reveals so much about the American Christian mind

P.A.L.

The worst part about a new episode of Whit's Endless Summer is needing to go back and re-listen to all the previous interstitials so as to try and keep the plot pieced together. Well, I say "worst" but honestly it's anything but. Rest of the episode was very good, fantastic guests (Dr Eleanor always a fav on other podcasts) and any stab at Jack Chick is always a good time in my book, even if I never had any exposure to him as a kid lol.

Lorgath

The end of "you know what thought did" is "stuck a feather up its arse and thought it was a chicken" in my part of the UK

hill

this has the best interstitial yet

late in life juggalo

My favorite take on medieval morality play is the music of ICP. They truly exemplify "we're not so different" It's the same shit cart, low culture, peasant mythos about life and death and judgment and fate all wrapped up in the dark carnival aesthetic.

Furidashi

Really appreciate Josh aping his sister's cadence. Made me tear up a bit.

Catfoot13

The one Chick Tract I've had the misfortune of finding in the wild was all about how carbon dating is fake. And the most transparent thing about it is the woke lib arguing in favor of carbon dating is arguing against a black woman who is also secretly his boss at whatever evil science lab they work at. It comes just short of saying "if you trust carbon dating then you're a racist that refuses to listen to experts" lmao

Charli Christine Marker

I was very lucky to be called to play the messenger in a performance of Everyman for my homeschool co-op in 2007. My dad mocked me for the role not being large enough :(

Ray of F---ing Sunshine

I shit you not, this is the third time this week a new episode of an unrelated podcast I listen to has mentioned hair shirts. What is HAPPENING

Malcontent Battery Pack

BRB just found out there's a cthulhu chick track! How am I just now finding out about this.

titus virginia

something sinister that struck me was the realization that "everyman" was essentially the framing of the kallikak eugenics study which tried to claim that morality was heritable

Maris Tiller

I need y’all to know that when you said you’d be talking about This Was Your Life I screamed aloud with excitement. Last semester as a part of my MFA program I had an assignment where I had to research a topic and write a story based around it. I chose to do satanic panic/evangelical Christian related stuff because I had been wanting to tell that sort of story (in a self-aware, of course) and figured it was better to work backwards from the premise. Now, I KNEW I wanted to dig up some Jack Chick stuff because I wanted to use the kind of narrative he used for my own story. I had barely even started my research when, lo and behold, I found This Was Your Life while on the sales floor at my retail job. Of course I took it, read it (and laughed), showed it to my classmates so they could similarly read (and laugh), then cut up the images for collage art 👍 The two key takeaways being Jack Chick unintentionally contributed to two gay little art projects and that these things are, unfortunately, very much still around, terrorizing minimum wage employees such as myself :)

Hannah Blase

So excited to hear Dr. Eleanor Janega on here!! Bring her back again, please!

Pineneedles

I always think it’s interesting to hear about american protestantism - and their focus on going to hell and such. I’m from Denmark and grew up culturally lutheran and the danish church is so much more chill than whatever the americans have going on. That’s at least my experience with priests and churches in Copenhagen (i know there are unchill priests in other parts of the country)

Malcontent Battery Pack

If you understand American Evangelicals as cthulhu cultist. Things make a lot more sense. -They worship a deity they are supposed terrified of. -The deity motivations are contradictory and often nonsensical -the more you study the teachings and try to adhere to them, the more insane you appear. -They are trying force the end of the world by fulfilling the prophecy and force their god to return and end all thing in their favor. While trying to recruit as many souls as they can. They're god is a lovecraftian entity.

John Leavitt

In Charlie Stross’ Laundry books some of the most powerful and influential American Evangelical churches are literally unknowingly worshiping dread old ones

John Leavitt

Achewood does honorable work but Chick Tracks are a rare thing where it’s impossible to parody them, every over the top version would fit as a real existing one. Even if you change every use of the word God to Ham you’re still just making more Chick Tracks

John Leavitt

They re fun, the first few are riffs on different types of spy thrillers and then they slowly turn into “what if the Slow Horses had to make a deal with a demon to prevent the bigger demon from swallowing reality whole”

Elizabeth Power

I spend a lot of time, wondering how really fundamentalist Christians and more progressive ones can believe in the same God and Jesus. This episode was actually really helpful in explaining that maybe they don’t if the way they interpret everything is so different. It also helped with articulating some of the things that bother me about fundamentalist ideas, so thank you. It makes me grateful that I grew up around the kind of Christians that I did. I actually really love the old radio drama with the actors reading the original medieval play. There’s just something about aggressively English people saying dramatic things about God.

Adi

Apart from the chick tracts we had a collection of religious comic books (cross and the switchblade, through gates of splendour, up from Harlem) and also a bunch of comics where Archie is evangelical?? Anybody else read these? There was a horrible fever dream one where Archie crashes his car at a mad scientist’s castle and all the other characters are locked up in temptation dungeons and Reggie is just sitting with a bunch of mirrors like jacking off.

LogalogJack

My grandma used to evangelize at the local jail every week; she’d buy tracts in bulk and painstakingly remove the staple (possible weapon) and reglue the pages instead. They were THE bathroom literature when we visited. Not only did they introduce me to such scandalous topics as homosexuality and suicide—because my parents sure as shit refused to teach us anything about the world—but they had the opposite effect and now I’m a pagan transgender with a noose kink :/ “No Fear” gave me… weird feelings I didn’t understand for years.

LogalogJack

My favorite parody of the Chick Tract is in the Welcome to Night Vale novel “It Devours!” The Smiling God is unsettling on its own, and so is the midwestern empty rural horror that Night Vale plays with, but add the evangelical cult propaganda and it works beautifully.

Zipzapzop

I believe you thinking about spire Christian comics I think they made the comic where Trotsky’s assassin is wearing a sombero

Nick

While I do appreciate the restraint this show has shown in not committing to do entire standalone radio drama episodes, I'm always captived by these interstitials. The production detail on them has gotten so good. And I'm a person who skips audio logs in RPGs if the game lets me.

The Art We Breathe

Am I the only one who heard "the five Whits"? Maybe I've just been listening to too much Whit's Endless Summer...