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A More Civilized Q&A - October 2021 (Patreon)

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2021-10-27 16:22:46
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2026-06
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Oh it is all here in today's episode, folks. We revisit our scientific mistakes (in both the realms of physics and biology), defend the honor of George "Laser Swords" Lucas, come up with our favorite minor character dream pairings, and so much more. Do we spend a significant amount of time trying define and delimit "culture"? Of course. Do we get distracted with various side conversations (trees, cookies, crabs)? Also yes. 

Enjoy, and remember: There's no such thing as a tree. 

Comments

Verdigree

Knowing something about the seeds sold to farmers by colossal companies which are genetically altered to survive herbicides, weather, etc. Those are also engineered to protect the company's bottom line, you can only plant the seeds they produce for one generation because they're designed to be sterile so farmers have to keep buying the Monsanto seeds like every other year, I presume the Caminoans genetic alterations have done something similar in what I imagine they think of as intellectual property anti-piracy software

Symn Bnjmn

As someone with a PhD in biochemistry and genetics I very very much am having a great time! Thank you

Katie Knaebe

Excited to listen, especially to the science discussion. I am a genetics nurse, and my brain nearly exploded during the talk about cloning.

Solomon Mars

I certainly believe that dave filoni is in the camp of the jedi or cool/ tragic heroes and I think that, that is the direction that they are going forward with Star Wars even when they talk about older Star Wars eras like the high republic stuff. It's that same energy being put towards the jedi order. It is a little weird being a SW fan in a era that doesn't have the weight of george's imagination, his personal views, his politics and the way that he sees the world at large informing the story. But for the most part i'm okay with what's happening. I just mostly stay away from the sequel trilogy era.

arcee

The Filoni thing was interesting because I feel like the big takeaway from the prequels is that Lucas already has great ideas, Filoni just comes in to improve the execution. Also, Mythbusters did a test of the falling objects thing, that might help convince Natalie. :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eTw35ZD1Ig

Keith G

New podcast idea: the gang teaches Natalie high school physics.

Alberto Foglia

I loved that tree article! It's mentioned in the article, but there is also No Such Thing as a Fish! We share a more recent common ancestor with goldfish, than a goldfish does to a shark. That also means that dolphins are more closely related to tuna than tuna are to sharks!! Phylogenetics is wild http://www.cdas.org.au/node/49

Jason

The difference between Canon and EU for Rex's helmet markings and their importance to clone culture really highlights the problem that this show seems to face commonly with what it decides to show explicitly. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jaig_Eyes. If I didn't have prior EU knowledge when I was first watching this show, there are so many things that I'd have missed out on. (What the Hell is an ARC Trooper, unless you've read the Dark Horse Comics or watched the 2003 series)

Forrest Sarles

I think at least part of the intention of The High Republic is to highlight how far the Jedi have fallen by the time of the prequels.

Rad Rodge

If anything I think the High Republic is dialing in on certain Jedi and Republic institutional things being specifically unsustainable for the institutions and foreshadowing their problems in the prequels, like the no-attachments clause, which is something I think the Clone Wars show is struggling to instead keep validating and upholding because of George's involvement. There's a lot of room to wonder about how decisive the final thesis of that series is going to look, but I think the High Republic stuff is more actively critical of the Jedi in at least that area

Kzinssie

talking about the difference between creator and fan perspectives is reminding me of when Toby Fox livetweeted an Undertale anniversary playthrough and said something like (paraphrased) "who the fuck is Onionsan. why did i make this character"

Kzinssie

I like to think Onionsan being one of the many potentially important/potentially red herring things in Deltarune's episodic release is in reference to this

MythicalMothman

Telomeres sound rad. Literal life hack. Carcinization on the other hand is way overrated. People think it's like, dogs growing a carapace and claws. But it's just crustaceans which already look very crab-like to us, just becoming flatter and getting a more crab-like arrangement of limbs. Less cool than people act.

Lexi C

On the cloning discussion - why can't we just clone a clone? Grab some DNA from Boba since he's young and has had less time for his telomeres to shorten! Why does it have to be jangos original DNA? Sure cloning a clone may introduce mutations but then why aren't they finding the best clone troopers and cloning them to make super troopers?? Also I'm an immunology PhD student and love y'all's grasp of science

Lexi C

I especially love that there's no such think phylogenetically as a tree since we represent phylogenetics as...trees

Vyria

The thing to remember about the gravity discussion is that gravity is a rate of acceleration, not speed. Even in a vacuum, objects with more mass take more energy to accelerate. Heavy (larger mass) objects do have more gravity pull, but they also take more energy to accelerate compared to smaller ones, and as Austin said, this increased force of gravity is exactly cancelled by much more energy is required to move a bigger thing, as Austin said.

Vyria

Also I love y'all's balance of your own readings and the stated intentions from the production side. Keep up the great work. All my homies hate Yoda.

David Montes

Gravitational Force can be described by the following equation: F = [G/(r^2)]*M*m where F is the force, G is a constant, r is the distance between the two objects, M is the mass of Earth, and m is the mass of an object near Earth. Force on an object can always be described as the mass multiplied by the acceleration of that object (F = ma). So setting the force on an object near earth equal to the gravitational formulation: F = ma = [G/(r^2)]*M*m dividing all equalities by m, we get the folllowing: F/m = a = [G/(r^2)]*M Therefore, the acceleration (falling rate) of an object near Earth is only dependent on the mass of earth, the distance to the Earth's center of mass, and G (universal constant). So all objects fall at the same rate, regardless of their mass.

Hieronimus Kava

In the case of Dolly the sheep, it was found that Dolly's telomeres from birth were already shortened, possibly a result from being cloned from an already-adult cell. I'm not sure how much of that is actual current scientific knowledge, Dolly was from a while ago now.

Rad Rodge

For real, there is like practically no one this deep into Star Wars who keeps both of those sides of interpretation in their assessments all the way through, it's beautiful

Lexi

OMG the discussion of gravity, trees, biology & crabs has cemented my love of this podcast let alone the deep introspection into a more civilized age! ❤️😂🤔💯🌲🦀☺️