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THEY SAID EMINEM "WASHED" JAY-Z!? | Jay-Z & Eminem - Renegade | CLASSIC REACTION

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Stephen Griffin

Totall agree. Do not step to me I'm awkard, I box lefty, an orphan, my pops left me and often my momma wasn't home, is one of the craziest pockets I have ever heard

Bubba615

When I was younger I thought Em had the best verses but with my adult ears I like Jay 2nd verse the most. This my favorite rap song of all time

Gaurav U

crazy that i was running this song back this week then y'all happened to drop the react.. imo Em the greatest feature of all time on here - you can't point to a flaw in his lyrics, flow, energy. and still Jay more than held his own. Off first listen, Em felt like he'd washed Jay, but over the years Jay's verse has only aged better and better

Marcelo

Eminem washed him. And wrote his verse first. The song was written and recorded with Royce, but it was never released and Em gave it to Jay. "He's Royce He's the king of detroit And I'm the sinister Mister kiss my ass I'm just a Renegade..."

Bant

"I chose my own Faith" is a cool double, Biggie's wife called Faith Evans

I_Phil_U

As a person that was outside when this song dropped. General thought was Em washed him but hov killed his verse. Em’s delivery is better and at the time. Em is scorching hot and cementing his spot is rap. Not just as a white rapper but a top guy. Media was hating him and he was super controversial at that time. Religious groups were trying to censor and ban him. Years later it’s not a wash but in that time period it was a wash. You had to be there and also, Nas ether only amplified that perspective

Soksonjr

So a couple thoughts but let me start by getting this out the way. Ether was released 3 months after Renegade dropped so Nas saying Eminem murdered you on your own shit helped "validate and make loudddd" that narrative cos Nas was one of the biggest rappers in the game at the time. Snoop shortly after renegade dropped also said "I’d never ever put Eminem on my album, I saw what he did to jay-z in renegade.'" So the respect Em got from peers helped the narrative. Then you guys have to remember that this song was just after MMLP dropped. Em was by far the hottest rapper in the game so listening to this kind of verses from the hottest rapper AT THAT TIME has a different feel than listening to it with 2025 ears. Now, to the actual song, I believe technically is where Em got Jay. I appreciate y'all pointing out in J's first verse that he had dope internal schemes too and still rapped his way but when you compare that to how Em went crazy with the schemes throughout his verse, yeah the first round was a wash. It got significantly closer in the 2nd round and I still think Em got him on the second verse but its much closer than the first verse. I would have loved to break down some of Em's entendres and bars but this is getting too long already. Jay had dope relatable bars, Em had better ones especially with wordplay and entendres. Also, this was supposed to be Em and Royce song and they had prerecorded it but Royce gave the song to J. Mickey factz even used that against Royce on Wraith (y'all should react to this diss track btw) when he said " Hov' took you off Renegade like it was custody " but back to the point, it looks a little crazy on j's part that Em's verse was already recorded, he didn't change it, J had heard it and still couldn't overcome Em. It's like what else do you need to beat this man? Finally, I see why "washed" might be too strong a word in the context of the whole song especially to a Jay fan. What I would say though is that the winner of this song is pretty clear-cut. its Em and I don't think its debatable.

Taylor

Jay Z held his own saying he got washed is a stretch, but he’s still clear as day to anyone whether they listen to rap or not that Eminem had the better verses

Taylor

It’s not he’s*