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"HE'S YOUR RIVAL!!!!" Welcome to the cottage, Popstars! What a beautiful, intimate ending...

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Vish

Pretty sure Kip was put to watch from the bar (Scott won MVP, he was not just presenting) because again, they didn’t have money to pull off an audience for awards show. All the times Shane and Ilya are either at the awards, or press conferences, we never see anything, just them, we hear voices of the press, flashes, but we never see the audience. To film Kip there and pan to the audience would have been expensive I suppose. So they put him with his friends, at the gay bar he watched Scott play. I think it’s beautiful symbolism too, that he can now be truthful with his own family, just like Scott is with his (the admirals, the fans, etc).

K

Idk if they didn’t have the budget to show the crowd to have Kip actually at the awards, but I actually thought it would be perfectly reasonable for Kip to be like “I don’t actually want to spend hours shaking hands awkwardly with 60-something hockey executives who keep telling me they have no problem with our ‘lifestyle’ and staring at me like a zoo exhibit”. I’d be like babe I love you but you’re the one getting paid millions of dollars to deal with these people 😭

Arte

Liked your reactions, you’re very funny and im glad you liked it ! I hope you react to somes interviews. I recommend the teen top and buzzffeed one if you do 🥰

K

Yeah the rivalry aspect is tough to portray. It’s a Canadian show that was originally only going to be broadcast in Canada, and I feel like even non-hockey people in Canada grasp what a big deal hockey rivalries are. But it’s a bit more nuanced than “they have to hate each other because they play for rival teams”. Hockey rivalries are first and foremost about fans hating each other. Sometimes the players have genuine antagonism, sometimes not. It’s a league where guys get moved around a lot. You don’t get traded to Montreal and develop an immediate loathing for every Boston Bruin the second you put on the jersey, especially since you’ve probably played with some of them at some point in your career! But the guys are expected to take the rivalry seriously and show up extra hard for those games out of loyalty to the fans. It’s almost a sign of respect to the team and the fan base to treat those rivalries as serious. I am not kidding when I say that in the more progressive Canadian cities a lot of people would be much, much more worked up about the “captain of the rival team” thing than the gay thing. (And the “rivalry” here isn’t just that they’re on rival teams, they’re also the number one and number two draft picks who were very close in skill level which very often creates this career-long comparison and expectations around that, but that’s beside the point.) lol I paused to write this all out and the first thing I heard when I unpaused was benji mentioning Canadians probably get it lol

Kris

Regarding the "Heated Rivalry" of it all, I think that is kind of the point. They touched on it a few times that it is really a media/team creation (the league always wanting to put them against each other, letting new players come into the league to hate each other). Gotta sell those tickets and get people to watch on TV. They are certainly competitive with each other, but it was never a "heated rivalry" for them. It was just another disguise they were forced to wear by the hockey world instead of being themselves. A very tongue-in-cheek type story/show title.

K

I also think Yuna is crying because she hears that her son is in love and has been with this guy in some fashion for almost a decade and she knew nothing about it because he didn’t feel safe telling her! It’s a lot to process all at once.

Gwenn

When they are in the lake, Ilya said that shane's phone has been ringing all morning, so the dad tried to call... It did feel very human, not completely through a tainted lense but still a very positive take

flechesbleues

As well as the rivalry issue, the other main problem is the Russia of it all - if they came out, Ilya would be in danger (if he still held only a Russian passport). If the hockey part of things went south, he'd also then lose his work permit. Big problem. Hence the years-long forward planning required. Scott Hunter helped (Game Changer ;)), but it's not quite as straightforward for them.

BexFangirl

Beautiful season finale. Can't wait for season 2 XD

Crystal Pritchard

It’s not as straight forward for them to come out the way it was with Scott. Not to diminish his bravery but he was dating a barista who was already out, his career was the only complication. Ilya and Shane are both professional hockey players, if they were to lose their contracts, which they don’t know they won’t, Ilya could be forced to go back to Russia, hence his desire for another passport. Also, they play on opposing teams. One of Yuna’s first questions was whether Shane ever let Ilya win. Fans, teammates and management will also have that question. And even if they believe the answer is no, they may not trust that not to change so every loss going forward would be scrutinized. It’s more complicated than Scott’s story.

Paul Vergouwe

I think realizing your son has been hiding his love for a decade is going to make you sad. Also I think the dad just felt like he was intruding so tried to pretend he didn't see anything and let Shane get to it on his own terms. Also he did call them beforehand Ilya said the phone's been ringing all morning. I also think you underestimate sports fans. If the star player of a team would up and leave because of some girl he would be *loathed* by everyone (never mind if it's a player from a rival team instead of some random woman). Yuna's comment about loyalty seemed cynical but it's a huge deal. Sponsors wouldn't touch them with a 10-foot pole. It's a lot more complicated than with Scott who has a relationship outside hockey in his own city.

Beth

Yes! To all of these points! His dad totally was like 'oh shit, I wasn't supposed to be here for a reason." Then didn't out shane, Yuna was surprised by Ilya being there AND the gay thing. Not only would the fans have issues with your other points but they could even be set up to be looked at for cheating. Throwing games etc. His own mother had the ask, you think the public and corporations making money off of them wouldn't question it? It's so much worse for them then Scott and kip in almost every way.

The Pink Popcast Patreon

Yeah! We've also never been one to pit people against each other for sports so it's not the show's fault if we didn't pick up or remember how INTENSE sports fans can be hahaha

Crystal Pritchard

I mean this happened when Mike Fisher left Ottawa for Nashville after he married Carrie Fisher. The fans in Ottawa were boycotting her music and booing their hometown boy when he came back for games.

K

Yeah Montréal, where Shane plays, has had I think 4 hockey-related riots? It’s something people take very seriously here 😅

Paul Vergouwe

I do think Ilya would pretty easily qualify for asylum in Canada if that were to happen given he's such a public figure. But it might also endanger his brother and niece.

Paul Vergouwe

Well I think this is the weak point of the show here and there. There are some logical gaps that make sense in context but you kinda have to infer the context yourself. It's always a thin line between under- and overexpositioning. This show tends to underexposition a bit. It makes the rewatch better though. I liked especially the first 2 episodes better the 2nd time around because of it.

K

Totally. Like what’s the impetus for the fight in episode 5 when Alexei says “what’s the plan”? He means that Ilya was paying him to look after their dad and now that their dad has passed he will no longer have any income if those payments stop. In order to piece that together you have to remember one singular line of dialogue from episode 4! If you talk over it, you don’t know what they’re arguing about lol. Does the tuna melt scene come out of nowhere? If you tune out during the 10s of the montage showing Ilya getting more absorbed in his texts with Shane and starting to reject women, it sure feels like it! I like that it treats the viewer as intelligent and like you say there’s so much to uncover on a rewatch. It also makes it a challenging react show. I’ve caught myself getting frustrated at people for missing things I know for a fact I did not pick up on first watch haha 🙈

Kenna

I love y'all, but I wish I could be there in real time to explain things/voice other interpretations haha I feel like ya'll misunderstand my boy Ilya sometimes 😂 Shane (imo) is definitely the one who's been more guarded/panicky the whole series, and Ilya has been the one to make the first moves towards being more serious in the relationship. Iliya's usually only more guarded (again imo), once Shane panics/pulls back. So Shane getting overwhelmed and Ilya being his rock at the end makes sense for their characters. I appreciate that you guys found time to react to this and enjoyed the beauty of it, even amongst the holidays and all the other content you're putting out!

Vish

There’s this cinematographer breaking down things on tt and twt. Valentina i think? Anyways, their budget was small, but not that small. They had two cameras, very expensive ones. A whole crew for it. LED screen. They just knew how to prioritize and manage their money well. But it’s not amateur small budget. Probably 2-3 million for production?

The Pink Popcast Patreon

I think I was starting to really see that towards the end, when Shane was freaking out more about being discovered. The idea of Iliya being scared to lose his Russian citizenship vs. Shane losing his image but having a loving family started putting things in more perspective!

De

Benji's headphones are new! (I said that out loud when I watched the ep 5 reaction intro)

Kenna

Yeah totally! Especially back in like episode 4 I think? When Ilya asks Shane to stay over for the first time, instead of leaving right away after hooking up, makes him food, notices/has his favorite drink, and is the first to use Shane's first name while hooking up. Which then results in Shane immediately leaving and getting a girlfriend haha But, of course, everything is up to anyone's own interpretation ! I'm just happy ya'll watched it haha

De

Note: Benji theres an edit of the Sabrina Carpenter song with the cottage scene!

Elizabeth Deprey

Rizzo might like the book series- Ilya spends all 6 of them being an ahole to literally everyone 😂

Kayla Foley

AHHHHH THIS WAS SO AMAZING!!! 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 thank you so much!!!

Serenity La’sandra

“This is the cottage, we’re safe here” LITERALLYYYYY 😭

Serenity La’sandra

I appreciate that his dad didn’t tell his mom, that he allowed Shane to do it himself, and kept it to himself

René López

I know ep. 5 broke the record for highest rated TV episode ever, but for me episode 6 is THE BEST ONE! Every line from the cottage is so iconic! ❤️🏒🥅⛸️

Beth

There's that, and they were talking about how much longer they have to hide. If i were her I would be so sad for my kid who I love more than anything and want to be happy. He's in love but he can't have a "normal" relationship because of his circumstances, a lot of which I am a big contributor. I don’t blame her for going off on talking to his financial sources. I would be trying immediately to make it better.

Clayton Bockman

Thankyou for covering this amazing show. Loved your reactions. We are all staying at the cottage until season 2 starts ❤️

Jose Nate

Well this was amazing, thank you for reacting. You guys gave me so many new insights about this silly show that I love and I love you guys for that.❤️ You guys did ruin the first shower scene for me though, because all I can think about is the serial slapper running by them and slapping their asses. 😂 (thanks for the lasting memory😂)

LoveBug

Have loved your reactions to this show! Looking forward to season 2 🩷💙

Ellie Autumn Gidney

I looked up a loon as well while watching the episode they looked so scary to me a deleted it off my search history 😂.

EM

Also, it is canon it both the books and show that Shane is autistic so he gets overwhelmed and Ilya clocks it pretty quickly towards the end. Even the bathroom scene at the award show Shane was starting to get upset and Ilya kissed him even though he still couldn't emotionally be present.

Tito

I love how the season ends with them literally driving off into the sunset, but my cynical/anxiety brain kept expecting something to t-bone the car out of nowhere. This was a cute show & I lerve your reactions. Happy New Year!

Kenna

Thanks for adding that! I was going to but then I was stressed my comment was getting too long haha

The Pink Popcast Patreon

RIGHT!?!?!? I'm always waiting for a car crash. ALSO, after reading everyone's comments on how difficult them being a couple is when it comes to the sports politics of it all, I'm realizing this ending was ALOT more somber and nerve-racking than just a simple "Coming Out".

Tito

Oh... I took it a different way. To me, it felt that they could both finally breathe easy cuz at that moment, everyone they cared about knew and accepted them. I saw their drive as silent relief from not having to keep their feelings a secret.

Erin Voner

I’m so glad you both liked the show!! I wouldn’t have thought you’d watch it on the channel, but I’m so glad you did. I’d absolutely love to see you guys rewatch this like you’re currently doing with Bridgerton before season 2 of HR comes back!

Paul Vergouwe

They're often part of nighttime soundscapes in movies and such so it would sound familiar even if they're not where you live. They're mostly just in canada, greenland, iceland and the great lakes but you'll find them along the US coasts and Western Europe in winter. Fun fact: the tremolo Loon call Shane does is a territorial call so he's actually telling the Loon to fuck off.

Beth

Same!! I want a rematch when the time comes!!

Molly

From the way y’all were getting backlash I thought you just hated this show. People are dramatic, I loved these reactions!

Kris

I get so frustrated when people compare Scott coming out with Ilya and Shane. NOT that you guys necessarily did so, but so many do. There is absolutely NO comparison. Scott coming out was about his personal life, but Shane and Ilya coming out as a couple challenges the 'integrity' of the sport. Because they are direct rivals, every win, loss, or penalty between them would be scrutinized as potentially 'fixed' or influenced by their relationship. That is a professional burden Scott and Kip never had to carry. Also, how can people compare a North American player retiring to a Russian superstar who was the captain of the Olympic team? For Ilya, being outed isn't just a PR scandal; it’s a total loss of his home country and a genuine safety risk if his contracts are terminated. Scott had a soft landing; Ilya faces an abyss. Scott came out as he was stepping away, which allowed him to control the narrative without it affecting his play on the ice. Shane and Ilya are the faces of the league. They have to face teammates, coaches, and opposing fans every single night. The loss of trust from their locker rooms is a much higher price to pay while still active. The issue isn't just being gay; it’s the relationship. In the book, Shane is aware that he could likely survive coming out as a single gay man. But coming out as Ilya Rozanov’s partner would make every game they play against each other a spectacle that undermines their teammates' hard work.

The Pink Popcast Patreon

EXACTLY! Also in Kip's case, he's already OUT so Scott is only making a decision for himself really! And I for sure realized the "abyss" as you put it towards this episode! Ilya would be kicked out of Russia and that is his HOME! :(

Becky -♡-

Damn I forgot how much I loved this episode 😭😭

chan

That cottage was built for vampires

Magie W

I've been so curious to see what you guys thought of this show since I first watched it (which I've now watched it multiple times) and so when I heard you put them on Patreon I rushed over here and binged all the episodes. I'm bummed y'all were getting a lot of flack for some of your reactions because getting to watch anyone's genuine reactions to stuff is fun. I do think it would be so fun to watch you guys rewatch it now that you've taken it in once and now could catch more since there really truly is *so* much to catch. I still catch little things when I was watching your reactions. But also you guys are busy so I know the likelihood of that is low and understandable. I am just glad you guys did watch it and got it up so quickly and did have a good time with it.

yoongi-ing

About the 'rivalry' 😆 in the book it's a bit more clear that it's the press that pictured them as enemies. Ilya has this asshole persona and Shane is so polite and perfect. They both play as center in their teams and they both are the best in the league, so everyone sees them as rivals. Of course they both are competitive in sport, but the rivalry wasn't as serious for them as it was for the hockey fans. And now that season 2 has been approved, the fact that the world sees them as rivals will be very important!! x

Ashley Phelps

Also to make it worse Ilya not being able to go back to Russia means he can no longer visit his mother's grave :'(

Ashley Phelps

David Hollander REALLY said "I'll show you a silent retreat" 😂

Kate Poole

FR tho!!! It's so much more complex for Ilya and Shane, ESPECIALLY since Ilya only has a Russian passport and so is on a work visa - he gets outed, that could be threatened! This show has some fantasy (let's be real, happy ending stories always do, which is not bad! I love a happy ending), but Scott/Kip are suuuuuuch a different situation.

Rubi

also is not just losing his home, but the possibility of being taken back there. in russia is illegal to 'promote the lgbt movement' and you can be trialled (or worse) as a terrorist for it. Ilya is the face of 'Russian Hockey' and if he came out without a citizenship to protect him (specially living in the U.S) there's a possibility of the team terminating his contract and ending up without a work visa, which mean russia could issue an international arrest warrant bc he would be a russian citizen. the hope in their plan is that maybe once Ilya has a working visa in canada it would be easier to get a canadian citizenship than in the u.s, which would mean that even if the league terminates his contract because they found out he's with a man he would still be a canadian citizen and would be safe in canada!

Ava Wolf

I loved how Shane was telling his mom to calm down like he hadn't just stayed up all night planning the rest of his and Ilya's careers. He really is just his parents smushed together lol.

Erinn Conlon

Jumping off of your excellent comment - a lot of Shane's brand deals would be in danger, which cuts back on his paychecks and his ~marketability in the future. (I assume Ilya also has some deals going for him that would also be in danger, though not to the same extent as we see Shane has.) If a corporation doesn't want to be associated with a person, their lawyers will find a way to make it happen no matter what kind of contract they have. We've seen a big taste of that over the past year or two, with many brands and companies cutting back on their Pride celebrations.

Sarah Speelman

Vacation/lake houses are called cottages in Canada, regardless of how big or small they are

Sarah Speelman

Yes, he would get a Canadian work visa, but he needs to be a citizen. If he comes out or gets found out, Russia will try to extradite him and Canada will say no, which will lead to Russia revoking his citizenship. He also runs the risk of whatever team he’s out dropping him if he’s found out, which would make his work visa no longer valid. Citizenship makes him safe from all that.

Sarah Speelman

Their rivalry was 98% made up and pushed by the league and media. They are very competitive, but it was mostly marketing. The fans don’t know that though. The fans see what the media portrayed them as.

Sarah Speelman

Then coming out is way more complicated than Scott. Scott was dating someone not involved with hockey, which makes it a little easier. Shane and Ilya have been portrayed as hardcore rivals for almost a decade and if people find out they’re together and have been the whole time, they’ll start questioning whether they threw games for each other

Sarah Speelman

There’s a season 2 confirmed. It’s based on the second book covering this same couple. It’s called The Long Game

Beth

They're actually bigger than I expected. Almost the size of a Canada goose. They have the cutest babies and they sleep on their mom's back. 😍 they might not be so scary looking if you find a mother and her babies.