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Movie Watcher Reads Harry Potter For the First Time! - Order of the Phoenix Chapter 13! (Patreon)

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2025-08-31 19:07:39
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Today we have our first ever Single Chapter Review, and typically, it is longer than some 2 Chapter reviews! BUT we have a bunch of stuff to discuss. Such a good (and frankly, LONG) chapter with so much!

There is so much in this book I wasn't expecting, for Harry, Ron and Hermione individually. It is an absolute treat!

I also make... a critical error during the Book Club. It is 100% Simon's fault.

We also discuss pubs, French Fancies, comedies (as always) and a completely bizarre 'Harry Potter Book Review' dream I had a couple of nights ago.

Hope you enjoy, lovelies! Before several 2 chapter episodes, I may 'consider' another oner based on how this video goes. The next chapter is a chunky one, followed by many shorter ones. ALL feedback is greatly appreciated!!!

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Movie Watcher Reads Harry Potter For the First Time! - Order of the Phoenix Chapter 13!

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Comments

Dave Brannagan (Brannas86)

I did miss the comment on this one. Had alot on. Had severe stomach pain which still isn't sorted, though we beleive it is gallstones. We have also lost our dog Susie to lymphoma (a thing that has taken other close human family members). I'll comment on the next one 😀. Got plenty pain meds to manage the stomach pain till I can get it sorted.

VeggieGamer

I am so so sorry to hear about Susie, Brannas. I know it can be completely earth shattering to lose a pet, so my heart is with you. I really hope you can get your stomach pains sorted, and look forward to when you are ready to comment again. Either way, I hope you enjoy the video. :)

Kamilla Mari

I’m the one who went to Oxford on holiday and sent you the IG message🙋‍♀️ Please don’t feel bad, Veggie! We had the most wonderful time in Oxford 😃 I would really love to go back there at some point (my dream is to study there). Regardless, no bad feelings! I’ve turned off notifications for most of my social media, because I get easily overwhelmed. So I sometimes notice messages ages too late myself. You have nothing to worry about! Thanks for the mention, though. Now I can’t wait to dive into the rest of the review and the book club ☺️

VeggieGamer

Thanks so much for understanding, Kamilla! My heart sank when I realised I had missed replying in time! I hope you still enjoyed the City of the Dreaming Spires! :)

PumpkinSparks

The only time I've ever seen French Fancys was during Bake Off and I could taste the suger overload through the screen! No thank you!!! I'd rather take the pie - and yes, I prefer savory pies as well! I'm with you (and Hermoine) on the Fred and George (and Lee) Situation. The only thing where our opinions differ is what is the worse for us. For me, it is the worst that they use first years AND that they didn't tell them what they get into. That is bad! Why not use older students who can consent? I prefered them doing it in the open though. The moment they hide it, means that they know it's wrong and do it anyways… Also what are the 6th year prefect and 7th year head boy and girl doing? Pretty sure it's one of the many occasions where the author forgot they should exist, but they SHOULD exist! And either intervene as well or talk to Hermoine that it's not a big deal. Just had to get that out before I go to bed. Rest of the review and book club is tomorrow :)

Jacqueline Chaiton

I have never had a French fancy but if I can find a gluten free version I would totally try one. I’m definitely on team savoury pie vs sweet pie. To be fair I can’t have most pies anymore because of celiac and I haven’t found a good GF pie crust, but I generally favour savoury vs sweet. I wouldn’t necessarily say Harry’s pathetic, or acting that way. I get what you’re saying and I can’t think of a different word, but I wouldn’t say pathetic. It is definitely great that Harry feels safe enough to vent and speak what’s really on his mind with Hermione, and Ron too, but you’re right he definitely needs to apologize more. I don’t think Dumbledore had a choice about the Umbridge hiring, but having her there meant he could keep his enemy close. I think Ron knows the twins wouldn’t take him seriously, even with him as a prefect, which is part of why he stays back. Clearly their initial response to Hermione meant they wouldn’t take her seriously either, but they definitely do now. If Dumbledore didn’t expel Sirius after the shrieking shack incident, then he definitely wouldn’t have expelled the twins for their candies. I have always appreciated Hermione’s passion for freeing house elves but as an adult, I can see how flawed her way of going about things is. Mainly is that she is not taking into account the feelings of the people she is advocating for. If she talked to them and heard what they wanted and then advocated for those things then that would be great. And yes, Chutzpah is the correct term! I’m not sure if we had coffee at school apart from in the staff lunch room but my high school was walking distance from Tim Horton’s and McDonalds so I know I just went to Tim’s before class, although I didn’t start drinking coffee until grade 12. I definitely have the totally obsessed or utterly disinterested light switch in my brain too, so probably one of those things where autism and ADHD intersect. Definitely seems to be a neurodivergent thing. I don’t think it’s difficult to guess what Hagrid was doing, to be honest. Not in hindsight anyway. I can’t say that I remember my initial reaction to reading it. Also I think Harry just forgot he was holding the Bowtruckle, honestly. Harry and Hermione grew up in the muggle world so I think there are a lot of things, like using a handkerchief for an injury, they just default to. Also, that’s probably why Harry feels comfortable snapping and saying things to Hermione than even to Ron, he can just relate to her more. I think Luna is the perfect example of why Hermione was not put into Ravenclaw. She is too narrow minded in many ways whereas a Ravenclaw, in my interpretation anyway, would be more open minded to other ideas and would do the work to determine if it is true or not. I believe it’s England, not Britain, when it comes to international Quidditch. I don’t why Harry even tried to ask Umbridge to reschedule, he knew she’d say no. It was a total waste of time. My feeling about agreeing with Umbridge “Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made a Great Point” Will edit to add more comments when I get back home. Like I said in my book club comment, the lack of communication is so unbelievably frustrating. I remember being a teenager and not wanting to tell anyone about the various things I was feeling or maybe had experienced so I do get it but as an adult, I can see how unhealthy that is. I would assume that no school would allow this kind of punishment, not now anyway. Not with how prevalent the media is now in the wizarding world. As for it being a fire-able offense, in a normal scenario I imagine it would be. But this is not a normal scenario. Listening to this chapter again specifically, I can understand why they moved the Ron Quidditch plot to HBP for the movies. There's just so much going on. I never considered that the twins would spike her drink, I think even they know that that would be too far. I came to the conclusion a while ago that the movies are terrible adaptations, but great movies. I love them for what they are but they really are not true to the books. As for whether you do one or two chapters per video, honestly I want you to go at a pace you are comfortable with. If that means this series goes longer, then it goes longer. You have to prioritize yourself. Also I certainly won't complain about getting more videos! Editing again to add that I agree that the movie did the best they could with the detention scene. They had to stick to a PG13 rating and that it was a visual medium instead of written word really limited what they could do. Also you are legally an adult at 17 in the wizarding world.

itsanursething

Never even heard of a French fancy before watching this 😬 Only about 40 minutes in so far. I kind of agree and disagree with you about the twins. Are they being insulting to Ron and Hermione? Yes and no. I feel like at this point, the twins consider Hermione like family and they give crap to EVERYONE in their family. Also, Hermione and Ron walked into the room and the twins were already testing. It’s not like they (the twins) waited for them (Ron and Hermione). I don’t think there is any malicious intent behind it; they’re jokesters! That being said! Testing their candies on first years…no bueno.

Huldra Draco

Great review as always, Veggie! As for the chapter question. I loved you giving this long chapter some proper attention. If you had you gone for 2 long ones at the same time, I think it would have ended up being too super-ficial on both. I think you reviewing just the one big chapter next time is a great idea. That gives you one big chapter and one smaller chapter for the review after that. That makes it more manage-able for you, and also satisfies your viewers' desire for going through lots of details. Yes, it slows the reviews down a little bit, but a single chapter every now and then doesn't hurt anyone. And we won't assume that the single chapter review is the new norm just because you do 2 after each other, because you straight up let us know that it won't be. The most important thing, is that you don't burn yourself out on this. We would rather you slow down a little, than end up having you burn out and quit. We enjoy this so much, Veggie! It's the highlight of the month. One chapter or two, that's up to you. You do it at *your* pace. We'll be here for the ride ❤️

Jo Winters

My condolences for your sweet angel Susie.

Jo Winters

Veggie, will you listen to the new audiobooks? Or stick with these ones till the end? I mean the new audiobooks with actors, where our new TV series Hermione, is also the voice of Hermione! I love the voice of Voldemort for those (Matthew Macfadyen)

Grace

Your dream was fascinating! I once had a dream where I was being chased by Harry and Ron in Hogwarts because I owed them money . And then Voldemort showed up and started defending me (he was in a freaking school uniform, it's the most cursed image I've ever seen) and then they started dueling. And somehow all three of them end up dead, and Dumbledore thought I was the one who killed them and I got sent to Azkaban.

S1lm4r1l

Don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby. Apple Pie is lovely! Never had a French fancy.

Simon audsley

"rita sue and bob" too was the film quote. It is a black lace song but there was a famous scene where they are at a club where black lace are playing the song and is kind of relevant to the films plot theme. Just old enough to have been spanked as punishment at infant school in the mid eighties so was about 6. What have you being doing to need to hand sanitizer after looking that video. Your forgetting who's in this book club I've got the press gang box set on dvd along with s1/2 of round the twist. Worked out the other day that if I was to watch a different DVD that I own every night not including tv series it would take me 15 years to get through them all. Not sure house elves are indoctrinated as it may be a characteristic of them as they are magical creatures, Hermione's view is that they are enslaved but that may not be the case. Enslavement is a human concept derived from how we see our own individual worth and our own autonomy, the house elf being a non human being may have a completely different ethical viewpoint, so that Hermione is actually imposing her own culture norms upon another species against their will.

Dani Phantom

i think i agree with your perspective on the twins, but like you said and other people mentioned, wizards don’t have the same sense of self preservation as muggles because most minor injuries are inconsequential for them. i’m so glad woozle was invited in for me and that she got some extra treats (even if she didn’t love the plain biscuits)! i don’t know if i was necessarily saying that people thought harry KILLED cedric, but the circumstances are definitely suspicious to an outsider. i think one chapter worked perfectly for this book club, you seemed less pressured to get through every detail that you wanted to talk about. do whatever feels best, this is so fun and we’ll be here regardless!

Noni

Another edit, I would suggest the next chapter would make a better single chapter than the one after it. There’s a lot of book only stuff in Percy and Padfoot that’s bound to cause a lot of discussion. And in a way it’s a chapter in 2 half’s. Hopefully that wasn’t a spoiler and you weren’t excitedly anticipating Percy and Black having a pint and a gossip together. I had a very strange harry potter dream a long time ago that was so strange I’ve never forgotten it I was at Hogwarts and aliens arrived, everyone was panicking and hiding until I was able to work out what they wanted. With the aid of the size guide diagram in the back of a home shopping catalogue I was able to find out they were on earth looking for underwear. Everyone donated some and the aliens flew off home. I really wish I could remember what I’d been eating before bed that night. Edit re house elves. I don’t think they take orders from students other than the type of orders they’ve previously been told to follow. We know that house elves do not have a choice about whether they can follow orders from their masters and it would be a really bad idea to give hundreds of teenagers that power of control.

PumpkinSparks

In the additional material the author actually stated that in Britain house elfs were started to be bred specifically to become more subservant. Like wizards made sure that certain house elfs with desired traits got together for generations! And over time they were easy to manipulate into becoming servants for life. Once a family owned a house elf that elfs children would also belong to that family. I don't remember her exact wording, but that was the gist of it... I see your argument about Hermione imposing her own culture on them. But Houseelfs aren't animals. I would class them as humanoids (that might be my dnd brain though) - they are certainly human-adjacent magical creatures like goblins and centaurs. So yeah, I would make the argument that the word "slavery" absolutely applys

PumpkinSparks

Comment part 2 Not being able to retain information of stuff you're just not interested in? I see you! There is so much weird knowledge in my brain already. The moment I don't HAVE to know something AND I'm just plainly not interested in the matter, I simply cannot learn the thing. Like, when I needed a new computer I understood everything fine while I was doing the research. But then I went onto the computer buying site and suddenly it was just some random mix of numbers and words… Luckily, I have several friends who are really into technology and were happy to built me a computer for my needs :) That unability to retain information gets so bad that while I knew how much money I had to the cent back when I was struggling to buy food each week, now that I'm financially stable I can't even tell you how much rent I'm paying or what the normal price for potatoes are… I totally thought the twins spiked Hermoines drink at first (and it's such a minor bit, that everytime I reread it, that is my first thought all over again). My brain didn't go to revenche though. More a mix of a bad prank and means to allow them to test their sweets in piece. Still not good! Regarding the whole "do the hats count as gifting clothes"-debate: truly, I think it's just one of the many instenses where the author didn't think things through. That being said, if I'm trying to make sense of it, I don't think it matters really who gave the clothes or if left out clothes count as gifting or if something counts as clothes. I truly think the whole freeing-bit is psychological rather than magical. If a house elf truly believes that a master gifted them clothes, they would consider themselves free (if they want to or not). That is also why Dobby wasn't able to "trick the system" by just yeeting some of Malfoys knickers and declaring it a gift - because he knew it wasn't. And then it also doesn't matter if it would work or not, because Hermoine believes it would and still tries to trick them... Watch What We Do In The Shadows - the movie!!! I havn't seen the series yet, but people say it's amazingly fun! The movie is perfection!!! … andyeah, the movie came first. "Percy is always in my dreams." Oh Veg... Good that he's looking out for you though ;)

Madikuma95

That dream sounds wild! 😂 I'm not too bothered by most of Fred and George's antics, as I see it more as Roald Dahl-esque humor than anything truly sinister. (Although the Ton Tongue Toffee incident was pretty bad.)

Gugurupurasu Daikirai

Okay so you do know the name of the chapter. Percy and Padfoot is an entirely book exclusive chapter and it's kind of long so there will be a lot to talk about there. If you're planning to do one chapter again it might be a good choice because it'll be easier to go back to two for a bit after that. Parts of chapters 15 through 18 each have at least some connection to the movie. As long as you don't do Chapters 22 and 23 together. Also I need to look up what a French Fancy is

itsanursething

Finally finished! So, first things first. You do what's best for YOU Veggie. One chapter or two, it really doesn't matter. I know you're concerned because we're paying for Patreon, but ultimately at the end of the day, YOU run your page, not us. If we don't like it (and i'm not saying this will happen!) we can leave. It's as simple as that. We are paying for the pleasure of seeing your reactions and participating where we can. But YOU ARE THE BOSS! Ok. I know this may be a hot take, but I just have to defend the twins. I went back and looked at the ad they originally posted in the common room. The ad didn't specifically say what they were doing, but it did say to come to the twins IF they were interested. I'm SURE the twins would have told them something along the lines of "we're testing this out, eat this thing." I don't think anyone would have gone in completely blind. Also, the twins were paying whoever signed up. Now, that't not to say I'm 100% behind the idea of testing on 11 year olds! I disagree there, I think there should have been an age limit and more direct knowledge of what was being tested. I will say, at the VERY LEAST, they did test on themselves first. And again, I don't think the twins truly have any malicious intent (maybe not with Dudley, but they were defending Harry. Not well! But still). They are jokesters, pranksters, they were born on April Fool's Day! Granted, not everyone will find their pranks or jokes funny, but ultimately, the twins are just trying to have a laugh, not really hurt anyone. The quill. This was more of a debate than I thought it would be. I simply cannot see it as anything other than a torture device. I equate it to Bellatrix carving MUDBLOOD into Hermione's arm. It should NOT be used as a punishment and it DEFINITELY should NOT be used on school children. I don't understand how in any world someone could look at that and think it was in any way ok. Especially because Umbridge didn't tell Harry what was even going to happen. That woman is VILE, and if that's her idea of a detention (a mild punishment), I shudder to think what else she could come up with as punishment. Sorry for the long rant...

Elinaboo

There is this now!? Sounds amazing! :o

Liz

I think Hermione is wasting her time. I think the way it works is that the Headteacher is technically the person who owns the house elves but I'm not sure. Anyway she shouldn't be trying to trick them into being free. Can't believe I missed the book club again haha although my sons birthday end of August so my mind was busy with that tbf

Ziro the Hutt

Harry apologised to Hermione in a previous chapter for biting her head off. She knows he isn't angry with her or Ron over these matters, but they do take the brunt of his frustration and anger at the situation; so they are good friends to him, but remind him now and again to reign it in with them, which are healthy relationships. Meh, those first years are getting paid, its just a bit of discomfort, then they can enjoy those sweet galleons! :P Fred and George have already said they are using this term to test out their products on the public, they aren't thinking or concerned about the effect it has on others. Is it wrong? Yes. Are they stepping over the mark? Some will say yes, others no. They would also be the first to come clean if something untoward did happen when testing their products to the staff; so its not like they are hiding their experimentation. We do however take these things too far in our criticism these days though. We all had days at school/college/uni, where we got embarrassed about something that happened to us, like these kids here with Fred and George; but no long lasting harm is being done to them, and they are getting financially rewarded also, so for me its no biggie. I wouldn't say that Umbridge's punishment for Harry is akin to caning, more like branding. I do agree that the movie scene plays this section brilliantly. I've said it before, but I do think Dame Imelda Staunton gives the best acting performance in the films; she is tremendous in the role of Umbridge. The book scene is still a shock though as we have to remember this was obviously before the films, and this is the first time we see that this person isn't just bad, but downright evil and sadistic.

Diego Zenhäusern

I haven't had fainting fancies🙃😅 I don't think you're bringing the mood down by adressing that what Fred and George are doing is dangerous and disrespectful. And I also think there is a difference between them doing the things they do and them wanting to be mean or cruel. It feels to me like they just iften don't see boundaries where they should see them...🤔😕

Kunzite Blossom

You are not wrong about the whole Ron and Quidditch thing. Not in Order film! Also...I totally never noticed the typo in my book club post! I meant to say Arthur is the fun parent. Not sure how I didn't catch "fan"

Anders Ekren

For real, Veggie! Maybe you should audition for the new show. Just for the fun of it. Can’t hurt to try!