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Buffy Mondays! Season 6 Episode 19 Reaction! (Patreon)

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2025-09-01 17:34:01
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####### EPISODE SPOILER REVIEW BELOW! APPARENTLY SOME OF YOU ARE WATCHING FOR THE FIRST TIME ALONG SIDE ME, SO PLEASE DON'T READ BEYOND THIS POINT UNTIL YOU HAVE SEEN THE EPISODE YOURSELF! ######

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I have no words...

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Maia Brodsky

Idk if I'm ready for this today. And I think a yt reactor is dropping his reaction to this episode today too :(

Jake M

Hope you're doing okay Veggie. I may not be able to watch this one all the way through. Reason #8- Spike R scene Part of me understands why Spike didn't realise what he was doing until too late- their entire "relationship" has consisted of one saying "no" and the other persisting until they give in. In his demon mind, how is this time any different? In 'Gone', when Buffy's invisible, Spike tells her 'no', but she carries on anyway. When she grabs his spike after he tells her to stop, he finally kicks her out. But apparently it's funny because she's invisible and the hero, so she's allowed to do that and it's just a comedy moment that we laugh at and never think of again. R and SA is never, ever excusable, but it does annoy me how much vitriol Spike gets compared to Buffy, Faith and Willow, who have also S__ually assaulted people (Spike / Xander and Riley / Terror respectively) but don't get nearly as much hate. Of those, Spike is the only one who shows any sign of remorse. The others carried on with their lives without batting an eyelid. Why aren't they held just as, if not more, accountable? To paraphrase Spike- "Hello, vampire...What's your excuse?" Also, Reason #9- Terror 😢

Jake M

WHAT HAPPENED TO PAYING ATTENTION IN THE INTRO, VEGGIE!??? 😝 You might want to go back and watch it again!

Elizabeth Rose

It's a rough episode, for sure. Devastating in a whole variety of ways. Knowing what was coming, I winced when you immediately reacted to how huge the bathroom is--because, "fun" fact, they built a larger version of the regular bathroom set just for That Scene, which I feel super weird about. On the one hand, they did it so there would be room to safely do the fight choreography, which is definitely good, safety on set should always be a priority.... on the other hand, building a new set just for That Scene just FEELS awful. I have further thoughts about That Scene, but I'm going to hold on to them for now to make sure I don't spoil anything. Will comment on a later episode! Regarding Warren, I personally don't think the orbs were affecting his personality at all. Having superpowers just made him feel free to do whatever he wants and act however he likes. Without any fear of judgement or consequences, this is who he is.

Ruins of Wonderland

Aw bless Veggie, I've been dreading this one for you. The rest of this season is going to be a hard watch. Not as hard as this episode, but nonetheless it does break your heart to see it. That being said, there's a surprise coming up that I know you'll be excited about - a light in all the darkness. Hope you're doing alright and taking care man.

Jake M

Sorry if this came across too shouty! I just really wanted you to be happy about the thing you've been wanting all this time, before *that* scene happened.

Hanneli Norrgard

It's true that the female characters get away with the same thing the male characters don't, and that's upsetting. Also, Spike is a vampire, while the others who did similar things are humans. His chip doesn't make him a nice due who doesn't think differently than other vampires, it just makes him unable to attack living things. Any empathy and love that he shows is all him fighting his vampire self. The amusement park is Six Flags Magic Mountain, which is used A LOT for filming. Getting there wouldn't be a hop, skip, and a jump from real life Sunnydale, but it would be closer than it being in Wisconsin ala Step by Step. The funny part is that the sign says "Wild River Adventures", and there's a water park in Southern California called Wild Rivers.

Madikuma95

So when I first saw this episode as a kid, I didn't understand the scene between Buffy and Spike, nor why it was so much worse than any of the other times they'd manhandled each other. Honestly I feel like the two of them have been using and abusing each other this entire season, and all the hot and cold, no means yes, and interplay of sex and violence certainly hasn't made for a healthy relationship. Maybe things would've gone better if they'd sat down and had a real talk about boundaries, but then again Spike already crossed that line many times last season. I think Spike's got this idea that Buffy only likes him during sex, so sex will make Buffy like him again, and when you filter that already unhealthy thought process through the mind of a soulless demon, you get something truly unpleasant. I think I was more shocked when Buffy and Tara got shot, mostly because of the suddenness of it. It's just so surreal. Really this episode highlights two very real world fears: Being assaulted by your partner, and a man with a gun with the intent to kill. (On a lighter note, I enjoyed Clem in this episode, and the contrast in tone between him and Spike was almost funny in a weird way. Also I just can't hate Xander, the hug between him and Buffy was too sweet.)

jolt45

While I understand your anger toward Xander in this episode...I think youre kind of missing the point of his frustration here. His whole argument with Buffy in the first half of the epsiode is to set up the Spike/Buffy bathroom scene later. Their argument is there to remind you that Spike is a mass murdering soulless sadist with a muzzle. It also makes sense for the characters because Xander has always hated Spike more than anyone else (except maybe Giles). Think about it. If one of your best friends had been sleeping with a known serial killer for months and you find out right after watching him have sex with your ex-fiancé wouldn't you be mad at...well....everyone (including yourself)? Idk, I think people are generally a bit harsh on Xander here. I know I would be pretty upset with one of my friends if I found out they were sleeping with a serial killer, regardless of genders.

Lime Pie

Even though I disagree with you about Xander, I really appreciate you voicing your honest opinion about him. His first conversation with Buffy is harsh, but I don’t think he’s wrong about Spike. I do think he’s being hypocritical for not thinking the same of Anya (and I wish Buffy had brought that up in their argument), but love is a funny thing sometimes and makes you think irrationally. I really love his second conversation with Buffy though. He calmly explains how he felt and empathizes with Buffy’s position. It really reminds me how close of friends Buffy and Xander are.

Hanneli Norrgard

I think that the bathroom scene shows something that is important to know in real life, and that's the power imbalance between most men and women. If Buffy hadn't been the slayer, she wouldn't have been able to push Spike off of her, and that's basically how it is in real life. Most people don't think of this (and this is how I realized my abusive marriage wasn't normal) because they fully trust their stronger partners, but I think people need to think about it more. Honestly, the reason I realized my marriage was abnormal was because I said to some female co-workers, "Do you ever lie in bed and think about how easily your husband can kill you?", and they all looked at me like I was absolutely insane. Most people don't go through that thought process, but it is an important thing to realize for safety purposes. (I do not think the show was intending to show this, though, instead of just showing Spike being a piece of you know what ((as much as I normally love him))).

Garry (Not Jerry)

No, it’s not the crystals. Warren really is a regular human being and also a cruel arrogant misogynistic murdering rapist. The worst villain we’ve ever had on Buffy.

Diego Zenhäusern

Wow, what an episode! I completely feel you right now Veggie. I'm just totally numb after that ending...and to be honest I actually have to watch the next episode before going to sleep. Because I need some closure otherwise this will haunt my nightmares!🫨😯

Diego Zenhäusern

Jeah, I think it is largely because the writers of the show don't wan't us to feel to bad about it. So it is never shot in as revolting a way or brought up by anyone. Nevertheless, you bringing it up really just showed me how easily and in some cases completely I've fallen for their bullshit...😕😳 I'll disagree in one point though: Willows remorse definitely wasn't instantanious. But when it happened it was real and she actually worked to improve herself and tried to make up for what she'd done.

Jake M

Hi Diego- have to disagree with you there! Willow gets extremely depressed about Tara and might apologise offhandedly, but I don't recall her ever thinking she's in the wrong- her response to being found out is to simply try again (Tabula Rasa). As far as I can recall, she never addresses that having sex after Terror's mind is abusive nor does she ever apologise for it. She simply resolves to stop using magic by way of "repentance".

Diego Zenhäusern

With some distance: The episode was expertly done. After the Buffy Spike SA scene I expected something horrible to happen the entire episode (warren killing or actually r***ing someone, him actually beating Xander to death, spike killing the other demon etc.). And all this dread also distracted me somewhat from the fact, that Willow and Tara where way to happy together for ut to be true. So when the ending cane it was even more of a shock since I genuinely felt like the danger was over...at least until the next episode🤔😕🙈