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Buffy Sundays! Season 6 Episode 20 Reaction! (Patreon)

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2025-09-07 18:28:12
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####### EPISODE SPOILER REVIEW BELOW! APPARENTLY SOME OF YOU ARE WATCHING FOR THE FIRST TIME ALONG SIDE ME, SO PLEASE DON'T READ BEYOND THIS POINT UNTIL YOU HAVE SEEN THE EPISODE YOURSELF! ######

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Absolutely loved this one. It has me completely ready for the finale of this season (in a good way XD).

I must admit... I feel kinda dirty, how much I enjoyed the last scene...

I flipping love the 'Bored now' call back! That got me good! XD

Hope you are well, lovelies!!

As always, if you click the video just after this post, you may need to  download it first.  This should be fixed in a couple of hours!

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Garry (Not Jerry)

“Willow, what have you become?” Veggie Gamer, Season 2 Episode 19

Garry (Not Jerry)

And I've only read the description and not watched the video yet but I'm so happy that you remembered the "bored now" call back from the wish. Iconic!

Jake M

So last episode Terror was added to the opening sequence (complete with actor credit), hence why I'd hoped you would notice it after three seasons of being annoyed she isn't XD When Buffy was first conceptualised, the creator wanted to put Jesse (remember him from the first episodes?) into the intro as a dummy, to shock us when he gets turned into a vampire and then dusted. However this was too expensive, or the network said no, or something. Cut to season 6, and the opportunity presents itself again, and this time there's more money and status behind the series. instead of Terror being elevated to main cast status, it's actually her final (alive) episode. I can't say how many people it actually fooled- I was too busy watching Robot Wars at the time, probably XD

Jake M

I've been vocal about my (9, I think?) reasons for disliking the season already, so will keep this short. I think the R scene is used purely to stimulate development in Spike's character. The whole season has been full of SA for the sake of conflict and I don't think it was written very well, personally. It seems written by people who haven't had that unfortunate experience, otherwise other examples (eg Buffy in Gone, Willow in OMWF) wouldn't have been trivialised so much. Mistake? Not sure. Badly handled? Yes.

Jake M

OMG, I only just noticed Warren jokes "Let's talk about my skin troubles" at Rack's...foreshadowing much? XD

Lime Pie

I think this episode brings out a sadistic side in almost everyone lol. I definitely don't think the bathroom scene last episode was a mistake narratively speaking, but outside of the narrative, I do think it was a mistake considering the reaction James Marsters had to it.

Ruins of Wonderland

I'm really not sure if I can say if that scene was a mistake. When I watched this growing up, I used to think it was a mistake. I hated the scene, it felt so out of place to me, and I just skipped it most of the time. Adult me likes to take in shows as a whole more instead of only breaking apart the pieces in an attempt to give the fairness to the creators. That being said, Buffy is not the show I'd go to for healthy use of SA in media. Overall, I'd say 90% or more of the SA parts of this show could be removed entirely and it would be no less a great show, BECAUSE it doesn't tackle any of the situations very well. They're sort of half hearted attempts, clearly done by people who haven't gone thru that nor did they seek any input/guidance from people who have. I'm not sure we could expect as much to be done from 90s/00s TV, but it really shows imo that it was done with not much concern for the character's post-SA lives.* **there's a big caveat I have to this opinion, but of course I want NO SPOILERS for you Veggie! So I'll clarify once we reach the episode that slightly skews this opinion of mine lol. Good question you had there tho. Makes you think, if one can, objectively about it. Hope you're doing well man! 💜

Pauline Robertson

I agree with Buffy but unfortunately also take great delight in Warren being tortured😂

Maia Brodsky

I don't think it's fair to assume none of the creators had gone through irl SA situations, just because we may disagree with how they handled the subject. Hell, we do know the bathroom scene was actually based on something one of the female writers did to her male partner, so we at least know one of them had been a perpetrator. Considering how common this sort of thing is and was, I think it's quite likely that some of the writers had been victims of SA as well.

Ruins of Wonderland

Perhaps not. Perpetrators is at least quite accurate, yes. Even still, as I stated, it's just imo.

Madikuma95

I wouldn't call it a writing mistake, just very unpleasant. Honestly I find the Warren torture scene too disturbing to enjoy. 🥲 Willow's last line foreshadows the next episode title perfectly, though!

Elizabeth Rose

When this episode first aired, I was forced to step away for a moment and missed the ‘Willow absorbing the books’ moment, and then spent the rest of the episode wondering when and why Willow had stopped to dye her hair black. 🤣 In your excitement about “Bored now” (and rightfully so, GREAT line), I don’t know if you caught Willow’s final line…. “One down.” 😱 I agree with your brother that That Scene with Spike was a mistake on the writers’ part, and I’ll talk about why I feel that way soon! Lol, I'm sorry, I just can’t explain my feelings about it without referring to some stuff that hasn’t happened yet :) Since you brought up the test in “Helpless”, I wanted to share what helps me to forgive Giles for participating in the Cruciamentum test (which I remember you struggled to do, Veggie, until a couple episodes later when Giles didn’t get the jelly doughnut he wanted). And that’s remembering something Giles said way back in season 1, in “Never Kill a Boy on the First Date” (aka the one with Very Tall Owen 😉). Giles tells Buffy, “I was ten years old when my father told me I was destined to be a Watcher. He was one, and his mother before him, and I was to be next.” We’ve seen how dogmatic, self-righteous, and authoritarian the Watchers’ Council is, and Giles didn’t just train to become one of them, he was RAISED with their dogma. So come Buffy’s 18th birthday, he knows that his duty is to start drugging her for the test, and it FEELS WRONG at every step of the way, but he has a literal LIFETIME of indoctrination telling him that the Council knows what is necessary to protect the world. It doesn’t excuse what he did, but it does help me understand why he initially felt he had to go along with it, and helps me forgive him once he refuses to continue with it and does everything he can to make things right. :)

Giorgia M

I think it’s funny you just talked about bad guys in wrestling that you would pay just to see get their comeuppance and that the trio weren’t that for you, you just didn’t want to see them at all. I mostly agree, but I now feel that Warren on his own is a bad guy that I want to see get his just desserts and I think from this video you probably feel the same way now too. Even though in theory, I think we both prefer human life to be spared and corrected by the human systems in place. It’s just funny that you recently brought that up and it applies so well to this episode. I’ll talk about the Spike bathroom scene more later but I generally do feel like it wasn’t very well written, there were other ways to remind the audience that Spike is still a soulless demon and progress his arc. I’m a spike fan so maybe I’m biased but I just don’t see him going there at this point in the story. I’m not saying he isn’t capable of that but it just doesn’t sit right with me how it played out and why.

Diego Zenhäusern

I have to say immediately after Warren shot Tarra last episode I genuinely wanted him to die painfully!!😭😡😡 But as soon as Willows eyes turned black I realized what I was hoping for and my next thought was: "Oh, no, we have to stop Willow!" So, no, I didn't enjoy the ending scene because I don't know if we'll see Willow coming back from this and that was all I could think about😢 That said: I totaly get why you would feel the way you do! And I think it's great that you're being honest with us about your feelings on it. That's what we're here for after all!😊 Especially since at the end of the day it's only a show so one wouldn't know if one would actually react "better" or "worse" in real life🙈 Also: The scene with Buffy finding Dawn in the room was objectively heartbreaking...but I was still so numb from the pure shock of the last episode and also so worried about Willow that I couldn't get myself to actually feel it😢 Well, maybe I'll be able to appreciate it if I rewatch these episodes🙈

Hanneli Norrgard

I think the bathroom scene was just out of place. It didn't match the character Spike had become and likely isn't something he would have done at that point in his story. He was always the one who could read people and had a "sensitive" side (as much as it could be as vampire). None of the big issue scenes or episodes are done well on Buffy, though, so I wouldn't expect anything more. Like I've said before, it's also not a 90s TV thing that's the problem. It's a Buffy thing. I watched, and have re-watched recently, other shows in the 90s that dealt with rape and attempted rape far far better than what people seem to think was going on. Superfans just can't believe that their perfect show may not be the end all be all of media at the time it was made. The geography of this episode really confused me, though. For Warren to be going from where Sunnydale is to the border, he wouldn't have gone anywhere near that desert that they meet the bus in. None of the deserts in the area would be on the way, but especially not that one. The only thing that I can think of is if he meant a state border, but that's not what people mean when the say "the border". (This type of geography issue happens a lot in shows and movies, though, and it always bugs me.)

Maia Brodsky

Oops, guess I'm a little late posting this. No, Tara never died in season 5. She had her mind sucked out by Glory, and then Willow fixed it in the season 5 finale. I think it was wrong for them to force James and Sarah to do a scene they both objected to strongly, but writing-wise, I'm still conflicted about it to this day. And I say this as a Spike fan. It's risky to say too much more without alluding to spoilers, so I'll just leave that topic there. Jonathan and Andrew were arrested for the armored car robbery they attempted last episode. Looking forward to your upcoming reactions (including the one you just dropped)!