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Controverisal Opinion - Best Episode in the Show so far?

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Alex Hopps

This is such a fantastic episode! These make sundays so much better. Think im literally turning something else off halfway through to watch this immediately

Steven

Not controversial! This and the tales of ba sing se are in my top 3!

Cari Ann

Bathrooms in the spirit world comment wasn't out of nowhere, in season 1 sokka got taken by hai bai (spelling may be off, panda bear spirit) and when he got back katara asked how he felt and he said like I really gotta go to the bathroom lol so thats how he knew there is no bathroom lol.

VeggieGamer

AAAH!!! I HAD FORGOTTEN THAT!! Great call back!

Alex Hopps

I don't think its controversial to say its your favourite so far, i certainly think its up there. Struggling to name many id put ahead of it

Eve

No matter how many times I watch this episode it just doesn't get old! So good

qowkerf uinbfesd

I'm a sucker for fire nation lore, so this episode is waaaaay up there for me, along with one that's yet to come :)

PumpkinSparks

havn't started the episode yet, but I want to add something to the metal bending debate before I forget: I think the question, if space metal is bendable is moot. When Toph invented metal bending she realized that there were imperfections in the metal and she didn't bend the metal itself but the earth bits that are worked into it. So the way I understand it, the purer the metal the less bendable it becomes. Like the difference between highly worked metal like for a sword and crude metal for war machines. So I don't think she could bend Sokkas new meteor sword, but the bit of space rock he gave her still has a lot of earth in it so she can bend it. At least that is how I understand it...

James McCarthy

Aye this episode is one of the shows best. Top ten though this season still has many more top 10 episodes to go (: Roku is a fascinating character so glad we learned more about him. I would say Sozin is very interesting to we add so much more depth to him and show that the current fire lord may be evil as was his father but Sozin is the stereotypical but always fascinating started down the road to evil through delusions of good intentions in spreading their prosperity.

James McCarthy

It is interesting you could say Roku like most avatars was flawed and messed up badly with his handling of events. Indeed the fire nation is the most industrial and advanced nation as we have seen and Roku may have made a mistake in completely shutting down the idea of the four nations mergeing with eachother and sharing technology. He wanted things to stay as they were and did not try to persuade Sozin into a better path he just said stop. Sozins corruption occurred through him being independent from his friend and fell into his delusions and anger at being told just no. Roku could have persuaded him or killed him to stop the threat instead he shut him down not permeantly and left things as they were a neutral path that led to the future we know. Food for thought but a cool character

James McCarthy

Awesome both of Zuko's great grandfathers had red and blue dragons which is the colour dragons he sees in visions when conflicted about his purpose

Cinnamon troll

Not controversial at all. This is my favourite episode of the show as well. Or one of the top three favourites

Chorafini (Luiz)

Oh yeah, I never made that connection, that's really cool

PumpkinSparks

Aang wasn't supposed to be told that he's the Avatar until he was 16, but then they realized the threat to the world by the Fire Nation so they told him earlier. Sozin and Roku seemed slightly older than that, but they could be late teens... The twist that Zuko is decendent from Roku is so well written and makes his character even more compelling! If you remember, end of last book when he had his fever dreams, Zuko saw a red and a blue dragon talking with Irohs and Azulas voices. Now we learn that 2 of his great grand fathers had dragons - a red and a blue one. That is such a cool detail

Travis Terreault

A LOT of people say season 2 is the best because there are so few weak episodes. Season 2 is so consistent and strong however episodes like this, Sokka's Master, and future episode to come are literally the best episodes in the series! I want you to experience it so no spoilers but I can't even explain what you are up for! This episode is always makes me emotional! One thing you helped me realize (fully) is that Zuko's dream of Iroh and Azula being the dragons is reflected in Roku and Sozin's Dragons and his 2 halves waring inside him. So much beautiful symbolism

Logical Dreamer

After Zuko Alone, this is my favorite episode. An Avatar is supposed to be revealed when they are 16, so Ruko and Sozin should be 16 in the flashback.

jolt45

Most people have this episode in their top 5. I think its 3rd or 4th for me. Btw, the general consensus of most people is that Iroh used his White Lotus connections to deliver Zuko the message and smuggle the royal artifact into prison.

Zack King

This is, in my humble opinion, the best episode in the entire show. The amount of backstory they give that fleshes out the entire history of the war and the world before it is absolutely insane. And managing to do this all while showcasing similarities between the stories that happened in the time of Roku and Sozin with the stories that are happening in the time of Aang and Zuko is just beautiful storytelling. This is one of the most enjoyable episodes in the entire show, even on rewatch when you know everything that's about to happen

Jess Morton

It's my favourite episode too!

Maia Brodsky

Maybe I misunderstood what you meant at the start of your outro discussion, but to clarify, Roku wasn't a royal heir or a member of the royal family. He was probably part of a noble family, as we see he is hanging out at the royal palace with the prince. I see him more like Mai in terms of status. It's just that one of his children ended up having a daughter (Zuko and Azula's mother) who eventually married Ozai. It really is a case of powerful happenstance that Zuko has both Sozin and Roku as his great-grandfathers. And you're not crazy. This is one of the best episodes of the series.

Maia Brodsky

Also, I had to look it up bc you mentioned it, but Ta Min, Roku's wife, sounds familiar because she has the same voice actress as Azula. Which makes sense, since she's Azula's great-grandmother. Mind blown.

Lukas

I mean, overall, it seems to be a bit unclear what exactly counts as "earth" for the purpose of bending. If rock and coal count, I'd think metals should as well, but I'm not deep enough into geology to really know if there is a reasonable differentiation (IRL) or not. Either way, Toph better not "bend Sokkas sword" or she'll have Suki to contend with ... :P

PumpkinSparks

🤣🤣🤣 I'm definitely not a geologist! This is just my understanding of a difference in our real world in combination with my understanding of that world's magic system, and then coming to a conclusion that makes sense to me. Obviously I might be totally off!!!

Jake M

13:24 I WAS LITERALLY ABOUT TO TYPE THAT! XD SECRET MESSAGE! In the Fire....

Lisette C.

Definitely one of the best episodes in the show ❤️ I love watching this episode... Also... Not sure if it was mentioned in earlier episodes, but it's so significant the way the show portraits the Zuko/Iroh conversations... The camera angle is always from inside the cage so that it looks like Zuko is the one who is imprisoned - which is pretty spot on in the grand scheme of things...

Lisette C.

Also, Ron Perlman as Sozin was a brilliant choice! ❤️

STAYoung

Aang was a special case, officially due to them reading bad vibes ("storm clouds are gathering") but probably seeing Sozin gearing up for war. Maybe they didn't want to give him so much heavy news all at once.

STAYoung

In the words of the Mechanist from Season 1 - Unfortunately progress has a way of getting away from us. Theoretically, Sozin and Roku could have worked together to better the four nations, but Sozin ruled through nationalism (loyalty to the Firelord) and eventually would have either justified that the other nations should be grateful to the Fire Nation (subservient) or that the superiority of the Fire Nation logically meant that the weaker nations should move out of the way (dominance/colonialism). All in the name of progress and efficiency.

STAYoung

It is ABSOLUTELY an amazing episode. I’m not sure why but this episode got me misty eyed as well. Probably because of how meaningfully it shows friendship but also during the volcano scene. I guess it was because I knew how it was going to end and that the dragon would join Roku in the wave of ash.

James McCarthy

Quite possible but given how much colder he is after years without Roku it is possible Roku could have stopped or undone some of that conditioning. I do not think Sozin was too far gone to pull him back even at the end when he betrays Sozin before that he came to help still he was definitely open to change before that time.

Gabriel

This episode is good to have an idea about how much time has passed since the beggining of the show. This episode takes place at the summer solstice, so it's been six months since the episode 8 of season 1, that was called "The Winter Solstice". Roku took twelve years to master all elements, while Aang already learned water and earth in less than a year.

PumpkinSparks

My brain also went there shortly before Veggie began to sing XD

krfix

a bit late to the conversation, but I think the reason Toph asks if it's possible friendships can last more than one lifetime, is because she is friends with Iroh. And she knows she will outlive him.

CR Ash

Having seen the full franchise at this point, this episode really hits me so hard 😭😭 I can't wait for you to experience it all Veggie and when you do I will be sure to remind you of this episode to get you even more in the feels