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Veggieknights: "I was just wondering if the book review was going to be on time this month..."Veggie: "Were you...?"

Here we are guys! Another chapter packed with so many elements, including probably my fav McGonagall line ever?

This month, we talk about nose hair trimmers.

We also talk about vacuum cleaners, Aaron Donald, youtubing, David Bradley's entire career, Channel 4's Tip Toe, Frank-N-Furter, "berks" and why I am the greatest person in the world (this may be ironic... you need to watch a 5 and a half hour long video to find out!!).

Loving the deep morality discussions these last two episodes have drawn into the discussion, and I hope I come off as respectful of all takes. If I ever don't, please free free to DM me or comment here, as it really isn't my intent, and I want everyone to be able to have their say and I never want to undermine any takes that may seem wildly different to others.

I should also add, I may do the new Harry Potter trailer reaction, but as a Patreon exclusive, and not today. I explain why, it a... BIG way. So sorry, it turned into a rant, but it is my honest reaction to the news there is a new trailer.

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Movie Watcher Reads Harry Potter For the First Time! - Order of the Phoenix Chapter 29!

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VeggieGamer

Heads up! I know there is a new trailer for the tv show, and we dicuss it in the video. I will get to it, but it won't be today, sorry. :) Need to be looking out for the ol' grey matter!

Jake M

At my lowest point, this couldn't have come at a better time! You really are magical Veggie ☺️ ty for all you do!

VeggieGamer

Thanks for being a part of it, Jake!! I hope things get better!

VeggieGamer

Love the S.P.E.W discussion, Sanji! Welcome to the Book Club!

Jake M

All in good time, take care of yourself and the noodle first!

Badger Kat

I will admit that I skipped ahead to listen to you read out my comment and respond to it. I agree with you completely that just because Harry wasn’t looking for personal information about Snape doesn’t excuse his snooping. I just meant and didn’t state very clearly that he wasn’t looking for information to spread around the school about him, I was just trying to tie it back into my thinking as to why he wasn’t going to tell anyone. Sorry I wasn’t more clear!

Cari Ann

So how much money does 6 hours of veggie sitting in silence cost? Lmao

PumpkinSparks

Oooooh, it's VeggieKNIGHTS!!! I always understood veggiemites - as in a wordplay with vegemite. And I was always so confused cause don't the brits do marmite? This makes way more sense! It's too late to start the video now... I guess you'll have to accompany me to work tomorrow again ;)

Jake M

I did notice you said diolch but I could've sworn you'd said it before! My bad 🫣 Great pronunciation though 😅

Jake M

I read Veggiemites then like a Greek senator XD

Inseriousity

I thought that was a very fascinating insight into being a youtuber. Fun fact, part of the reason I asked about that is because I have a stepsister/brother (aged 11 and 8) who have expressed that very same wish. They are both into things like Minecraft and my sister watches those makeup videos as well. I filmed them making a pretend video playing a game (it wasn't with intention of posting on youtube, just pretending that they're a youtuber) and bless them, they couldn't even look at the camera but it was very adorable when they said "don't forget to like and subscribe"

jolt45

In the US, some states require work experience and others don't. Sometimes it is part of a specific class that you may or may not take and sometimes it is an optional extracurricular. I went to a private school so my experience was not typical, but we had a class our Senior year (17-18 years old) where we volunteered in the community every Friday. We visited a nursing home, worked as waiters/busboys for a benefit, cleaned parts of our school that are difficult to clean or rarely cleaned by janitorial staff, etc...

Garfnob

i was not saying Harry and friends have done anything, but harry stated he could not see Fred and Gorge doing anything like that "unless the person really deserved it" and gave malfoy as an example. that was my point. how is harry not getting it. harry stated the Jams did it because Black said he was board. reiterating the stated motivation. i believe that if black did not say he was board James would not have looked for something to do. at least not in this instance. there would have been other altercations. no it was not a fair fight, James presumably got the jump no Snape. Snape turned drawing his wand when James called. we do not know what James would have done if Snap just ignored the call and kept walking or turned without drawing his want. we do not know if James had his wand out or was just a fast draw. i expect he did already have his want out, but Snape could not have known that. people keep adding motivations that we have no way of knowing. i expect it is do to strong feelings about bullying that they cannot separate from what is stated in the text. Black never got involved. he never cast a spell. it was one versus one. my point was it was realistic to what was happening in the 70s, and was not unexpected in the area when the book was published. i agree it should not have happened. people tend to judge things by modern standards not the standards of when it was written or when the person lived. you cannot say someone from the past is a horrible person for not acting in accordance with information they did not have. regarding you said it your self "boys will be boys" was a prevalent attitude. is was not until decades later that the long term effects became understood. i will drop it unless it comes up again, or someone has questions about my thoughts. P.S. people are also stuck on the removing Snaps pants line. remember we do not know if this action happened. it could have or it could have been James twisting the knife about Snape being at James's mercy. neither is good, but one is far worse then the other. people are jumping to the conclusion they want without any evidence one way or the other. i am just reserving judgment do to lack of information.

PumpkinSparks

My take on Rons comment that this year has been stressful was that for him this year was quite different than the others. Don't forget we mostly only experience what Harry does. While big events wise this year was rather mild, this is the first year that Ron is on the Quidditch team (so he has practice on top of school work, which we repeatedly get told that it's more than it used to) AND he is a prefect (meaning he has scheduled rounds where it's his turn to monitor the corridors), plus obviously the stuff Harry experiences as well like Arthurs attack, the fear of an uncoming war (and the fear for everyone in the order), Umbridge, DA... So I actually can see how this year has been more stressful to Ron than the previous ones...

PumpkinSparks

I think you might misremembering the sequence of events in the memory. It wasn't that they spotted Snape, and then Black said that he was bored and decided to assault him. Black said he was bored, then James spotted Snape and said "this will cheer you up" and steered both himself and Black towards Snape. So while they attacked Snape out of a sadistic want (totally agree with you here), the initial trigger simply was "I'm bored" - which kinda makes it worse to me...

PumpkinSparks

We actually had cleaning duty in our classes as well up until 10th grade. At the start of the year a schedule would be posted and then every week there were 2 students (our teacher usually made sure that they were friends) and between classes we would clean the chalkboard and air out the room, and at the end of the day we would sweep the floor, make sure the one plant in our room had enough water, refresh the waterbucket for the sponge, and take out the trash if needed. In Germany we also have work experience during school - we call it Praktikum. I know it changed a lot since when I was in school, I believe they actually have more mandatory Praktika now then we did (which I'm a big fan of), but back then it depended a lot on what kind of school you went to. My sister had 2 mandatory and 1 optional (and obviously you can add some during the summer if you so wanted). I was at a more acadamically inclined school and we had 1 "mandatory" that was very easy to get out of. I also chose to do the optional social Praktikum (where you had to chose something in the social field) I did my normal one at a Florist, which was really fun and good that I did it. Cause that was one of the jobs I really thought about doing for real, and I had a knack for it, but I quickly realized that I get bad headaches from all the scents. So I was able to realign my goals years before finishing school. And the social one I did at a Kindergarten, which were 2 of the funnest and most exhausting weeks of my life!

S1lm4r1l

Regarding Snape's usage of Legilimency on the Golden Trio: Almost every single time Harry lies to Snape, he looks him straight in the eye. Snape has said that eye-contact is essential to Legilimency. Harry has had repeated uncomfortable feelings throughout earlier books that Snape could "read minds," or otherwise knew what Harry was thinking or planning. This has happened 4-5 times. At the end of Book 3 when they assert that Sirius Black is innocent, Snape immediately jumps to the Trio being 'confounded', Black didn't implant false memories, or use Imperius. Suggesting that Snape used Legilimency on them and saw the evidence of Black's innocence and Wormtail's guilt and just dismisses it as what they've been confounded to believe. We know that Snape is not above using very direct methods to make his job easier, like poisoning Neville's toad to encourage him to try harder. I don't think even the most ardent Snape fan could say that Snape definitely wouldn't use Legilimency. The simple fact he is so proficient at Legilimency indicates that he is willing to use it on unsuspecting or unwilling participants. If Snape is genuinely a loner who had no one, who did he practice with? There is other evidence you aren't privy to yet, but that's just the highlights so far.

Madikuma95

(I don't think Snape poisoned Neville's toad, I think he said the toad would be poisoned if Neville made the potion incorrectly?)

Madikuma95

Americans have been calling ourselves yankees since 1776 so I think it's okay. 😂 Actually the history of Yankee Doodle is kinda interesting, like it started as an insult but turned into a patriotic thing pretty quickly. Like I remember we sang it in elementary school (even though I didn't understand the lyrics, lol). Also, apparently it's the official state song of Connecticut, so there's a fun fact!

S1lm4r1l

He allowed Neville to think he'd poison the toad to improve his performance. We already have pretty clear evidence across multiple instances that Snape does not give a crap about Harry's privacy.

Sam-I-Am

Happy to be back! I've missed being active in book clubs. I love how much you love the McGonagall scene! I agree with you that it’s her best scene. When Harry tells them that Snape stopped giving him occlumency lessons, Lupin says “are you serious Harry?” not “are you Sirius, Harry?” Black’s name can definitely cause confusion at times. I can so easily imagine Black misbehaving in school and professors telling him to knock it off and be “serious.” And in turn Black mischievously smirking and replying back, “But I am Sirius.” 😂 To be honest, I think Black and Lupin repeatedly call their younger selves idiots because they don’t see what they did as assault. I think they just view it as a more extreme form of school bullying. I’d be curious to know if JK Rowling has ever discussed the scene because I’m not sure she meant for it to be seen as sadistic or assault. In the 90s and early 2000s (when these books were written/published), pantsing someone and giving someone wedgies were common “pranks” or bully tactics that were often times turned into comedic devices in movies and shows. Of course, that still doesn’t excuse what they did or Black and Lupin downplaying it.

Madikuma95

I think Harry doesn't see learning occlumency as important because: 1. It's extra lessons with Snape. 2. He's not very good at it. 3. It's an invasion of his privacy. 4. It makes him feel worse and mentally vulnerable. 5. He really wants to know what's behind the door in his dreams. Personally I think it's perfectly in-character for Harry to snoop, no need for Voldemort to be involved. :P

Garfnob

6. no one has told him the real reason he needs to learn it.

Alex Hopps

Welease Bwian!! I actually grew up with the inability to pronounce my Rs, and despite getting bullied for this i still find those scenes in life of brian hilarious

Huldra Draco

I know you feel bad about being so "anti-Harry" in your early reviews. But think of it this way: The movies didn't do a very good job at making Harry the great (and flawed) character he is in the books, so when you started the book series, you didn't have a very "I LOVE this character" -relationship to him. The books had to work hard to undo that. And they did. Watching you go from "I'm not so sure I really like him much, sorry guys", to "Harry is such a fascinating character!" was a fun journey for us! Harry had a lot of developing to do when he was younger. He had a lifetime of abuse to overcome. It took him a while to figure himself out, and we got to experience you doing the same. We all have our favourites, our less favourites. We all have some characters we connect more with, and some we dislike. Having opinions that are different don't make them wrong! So no need to be sorry, Veggie. Just like Harry had to discover that his parents were flawed humans just like any other, you (and we as well) had to realize that the characters in these books also are flawed and don't always do the right thing. They will disappoint us, they will surprise us, but they will also make us proud, and make choices in line with their characters, for good or for bad. It's what makes them great characters, instead of caricatures!

VeggieGamer

I DO feel the need to still apologise, but after reading your comment, I think you bring up excellent points, and it isn't just I find him fascinating, I want the best for him! Before, I really didn't mind when he went through 'an awful thing' cos I knew 'Golden Harry' would cope with it. Book Harry doesn't 'cope with it', and we can to see his inner hurt. And though I probably wouldn't have felt this as a kid, as an adult, I don't want him to go through it. That was a MAJOR breakthrough for me when enjoying these books as much as I do! :)

Badger Kat

I have watched a bunch of the new series trailer reactions and if you post yours, I will definitely watch it and enjoy it. But I would prefer that you protect yourself and do what is best for you.

Maddie

I saw the "Are you Sirius, Harry" joke coming as soon as you quoted it but it still made me spit out my coffee 😅 And it was such a good coffee!

Noni

I think a lot of the discussion about how bad the bullying of Snape was in the memory does not take into account that despite the fact that James and black clearly weren’t about to give Snape a compliment, we do not actually know what they planned to do. What they actually did had to be taken in context with surrounding events. Snape pulled out his wand first and based on the description was about to perform a spell of some kind. The moment he did that it changed the tone of the situation as much as it would if a couple of kids were fighting and one pulled out a gun. What they did was out of line of course but I think it’s unfair to assume that this was their plan and therefore their idea of fun.

itz_Cherise

I never really thought of Black and Lupin as minimizing what James did. I think that perfect morality and real life don’t always 100% align. They are first and foremost trusted adults trying to comfort a distressed child they care about. Why in that moment would they reprimand Harry? Also if someone was able to show a memory of your absolute worst behavior as a teen to one of your descendants, would you want them to base their entire opinion of you on that moment? James is still their beloved friend, a fallen fellow soldier against Voldemort. Of course they don’t want James’ son (who never got to know him) to believe his father was just one horrible thing and nothing else.

Lena

I second this. I am also not at all opposed if the reaction was Patreon-only or if the comments were turned off etc. I'd still enjoy all the same. Veggie's well-being is most important. If only we could borrow Harry's broom and swat away any disrespectful people lol.