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Get comfy, guess! Cos we have a Whooping 4 HOUR Kick Off to The Prisoner of Azkaban!  We discuss English Breakfasts, dog jumpers, Star Wars, the official definition of a 'Cockney', and also talk about Harry Potter for a couple of minutes (this is a joke, don't worry XD).

Wonderful Book Club as always!  I just want to say now, I DO get things wrong in this one.  For some reason I am under the impression that Harry DID use Lumos at the start of the book, but by the time we get to your comments, that is very clearly not the case!  Sorry about the mistake!

Love you, guys! Hope it isn't too cold (or hot) where you are! :)

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Bethany Grice

One thing to point out is that Harry also hasn't played many games. It's not like he's played 50 games and won them all. I'm pretty sure he's played less than 6 games. I don't think it's that weird to have a player who's team has won their first few games but maybe I'm wrong as I don't watch many sports. Also, I think it makes more sense to let Harry go out into diagon alley. It's not like the Leaky Cauldron is a fortress so if Sirius wants to get Harry and gets into Diagon Alley then he's going to be able to get to Harry in the Leaky Cauldron just as easily. Either isn't safe so it's not like they need Harry to stay inside. Loving the reviews though

Insanityandbeyond

I realised the sneakoscope kept going off not because of fred and george, but because of a certain pet

Katie

Yay! 4 hours! Btw, never worry about getting anything wrong. You are reading these books for the first time whereas a lot of us have read the books so many times and are so familiar with them. We would have got things wrong on a first read too. It's especially true if you watch the movies first and mix the movie details with the book details. We just love seeing you experience these books for the first time as we wish we could again 🙂

RhiLou32

Veggie, at the rate you're going, the final Deathly Hallows video is gonna be a 16hr masterpiece... and I am HERE for it! 😂 Also, never worry about getting things wrong - the lumos scene in the movie throws a LOT of people off.

Dara Jeeling

yes - I have afree day tomorrow! yay - actually onlyfree day since devember 1st and only freeday til the 27th... I love my work XD but christmas season is so stressy... But Yummy and it's cold but it's snowing, so yay again!

S1lm4r1l

A significant point with these books is that in a story with multiple points of view, we are invariably given only 1 point of view (usually Harry's,) and Harry isn't the most objective narrator. If you remember in film Order of the Phoenix, when the Azkaban breakout happens Fudge says that the "Muggle Prime Minster has been alerted to the danger." The worlds are less apart than the movies make them seem. As far as the rules regarding Muggleborns goes. Muggleborns agree to abide by Wizarding law when they agree to accept a place at Hogwarts. This includes the Statute of Secrecy. Normally, a member of Hogwarts staff explains this to the student and their parents, but because Harry had a weird and unique introduction to the Wizarding world this wasn't mentioned. It is also possible given Petunia has already had this talk because of Lily, and the Ministry didn't feel the need to remind her. In the event that anyone breaks the law of course, they dispatch some Obliviators who modify the memories of the relevant people. English Breakfest is: Sausages (More than 1. 1 is stingy) Bacon (3-4 rashers,) Eggs (Scrambled or Fried,) Beans, Toast, Hash Browns, Fried Tomato, Fried Mushrooms. Black Pudding is optional. I think the Daily Prophet is talking about 'living' wizards in Azkaban. Grindelwald is not held prisoner in Azkaban, but rather in Nurnemgard. They look very similar in fairness. Whilst the Leaky Cauldron is how you get to Diagon Alley and Diagon Alley and Knockturn Alley are connected, I think the implication is that there's another way into Knockturn Alley. It makes sense that Knockturn Alley is the last stop. Because a person wouldn't want loads of people seeing them get on and off.

Daniel Lee

Speaking of the actress who played Petunia and the talk about Star Wars, she was a major part of the newest Star Wars show, Andor! Both the show and her performance are an absolute masterpiece (best sw content since the original trilogy imo)

Dara Jeeling

oh and are you sure you want to know about the TV thing? It's explained in the I think last book (or the Half Blood Prince) that the Muggle Prime minister is in on it - he gets informed once he is elected (sortest version possible - so just you know, it's actually a funny chapter) So that important news can be handed out and at least one non magilca person knows how to handle that. as for family - I think it is a problem, since Muggles need to tell their family and friends of their kids were they went. I like to think that there is a backup story about going to a distant boarding school and only be back for the holidays. And if I understoof that correct - only what you called 1st family (siblings and parents) are allowed to know. Muggle grandparents are not supposed to know. and I don't think anone would believe a child. Imagine someone coming up to you telling you (in a furious or mean way) that their sibling is a with/wizard. You'd just roll your eyes and go "sure!" or at least normal Muggles would react like that. Welcome to fan theories where JKRowling is actually Rita Skeeter.... *snorts*

Kevin Morris

The name of the conductor on the Knight Bus being named Stan actually is a coincidence funnily enough. J.K. Rowling revealed that the names of the conductor and driver of the Knight Bus being Stanley and Ernie are simply because those were the names of her grandfathers. Also, Sirius is the most infamous because for all that she's done Bellatrix didn't (allegedly) kill 13 people; also the guy Voldemort goes to about the Elder Wand is Grindelwald and he's not in Azkaban, he's somewhere else.

Josh Z

Veggie there absolutely is a reason why the Dursleys take Harry back every summer but it is a major future plot point that I don't want to spoil for you. It is NEVER talked about in the movies and it's probably one of the biggest problems with the movies.

Judith

I'm gonna have to disagree with you Veggie. While yes, it would make more sense for Harry to be under "house arrest", I love his time in diagon alley. It is the first time he has a great part of summer outside of his friends. On the other hand it shows how deglected Harry is, because he is barely 13 but can be left alone for several days. Just because he has been left alone all his life!

Embran

Veggie, how would you feel getting compressed by a female Vernon, which is what aunt Marge basically is? I imagine Dudley doesn't like hugs in general - we get told he escapes his mummy to meet with friends whenever possible later on - but skeletal Petunia doesn't offer much physical hindrance. And Vernon just enthusiastically gives Dudders a clap on the back. But even a small whale in the making doesn't want a sumo hold by a creature larger in size (for now) lol. The flickering right before shattering of the glass me and my family see as Harry's rage that through magic - emotions connected to it and all - gives vibrations of sorts and influences the lights. Like his "aura". The lights outside were likely just malfunctioning ones to give a feel of dread and tension. You know, a deserted bus stop at night, Harry on his own and unprotected...good old horror feeling. Thanks to you I likely imagine from now on while reading this book Stan of The Knight Bus as a young freckled version of Bob Grant as Jack Harper! Awesome! A pity Jack has the big teeth instead of big ears Knight Bus Stan got. I guess both would be too silly. Although things left out like omitting Draco and the trolley lady, they handled the Dementor brought to screen and the terror he invokes very well. Only Lupin facing him I give fault. Him waking up and all the sudden that light out of the wand right after the soul sucking...it's all just visual fading and blurring effects. Would be better if Lupin was awake BEFORE the Dementor came like in the book. Neville and Ginny present would have been nice, but even as it is to take charge, commanding everyone present to be quiet and approaching the door gives plenty cinematic thrill and shows the looming threat after a nice train ride, but the transition would have been better. Barely anything in the books regarding the grandparents, but on Pottermore Rowling wrote about them, both (Fleamont and Euphemia!) having died of Dragonpox. They saw their son getting married, but died before baby Harry. The only thing we got book wise is in Philosopher Stone Harry seeing them in The Mirror of Erised.

electroshock therapy

I actually like how the film portrayed the first Dementor encounter. Having Lupin awake gives an immediate sense of security as there's a teacher present to protect the children. When it's just the kids, there is a greater threat as, at that moment, they are all alone. The film gives more threat to the scene.

Wayne Joy

Harry's birthday was in Philosopher's Stone. It was the day that started with Hagrid knocking the door to the hut down and included Harry buying all of his school supplies.

VeggieGamer

How did I forget that... so sorry Wayne! Great point!

Ziro the Hutt

Was going to mention that, glad you spotted this too. Its a bloody good series, though for me Rebels is the best SW content since Empire itself. Anyway Fiona Shaw really showed her acting chops in it and was wonderful.

Ziro the Hutt

Fantastic! The World Cup, another reactor I follow has been watching Revenge Of The Sith, so looking forward to rewatching that; and here Veggie with another epic Harry Potter Book club review! It must indeed be Christmas! :D Oh yeah black pudding is a must for an English breakfast. I'm a Scotsman so you could put lorne and haggis in there too. Ridiculously unhealthy start to the day, but sometimes you just got to! :D In the movie you could say the flickering is being caused by the emotional state Harry is in. You see the lights flickering in the kitchen when Marge is goading him, and when he is sitting down outside, he is probably thinking of what is going to happen to him if he is to become an outcast. Oh and On The Buses is great! :P There is a BIG reason Harry needs to stay with the Dursley's, but thats covered later. I don't think its 'childish writing' that Harry up to this point has never lost a Quidditch match in which he has featured, especially since he has only played 4 or 5 games so far at school. He is obviously an extremely good flyer like his father and sometimes talents run in the family. If you want to switch this to Star Wars, its like some Jedi have different gifts to them. Some can heal, some can touch objects and sense a force moment with them, some are able to connect with animals deeply etc... Squibs don't go to Hogwarts, it would be like throwing someone who doesn't understand theoretical physics, into a place like CERN or NASA. It would also be cruel for them, especially with the self-hatred they'd end up feeling and the inevitable bullying from witches and wizards. Percy is a pompous git though, lol! And you will hear about him and Arthur later. Finally you mentioned my avatar, he's a C1 droid, by the name of Chopper - his designation is C1-10P (Chop), and is an absolute lunatic of a droid! He's in Star Wars Rebels, and will be in the live stuff soon (actually he was in Rogue One briefly too). Best droid in Star Wars, there I said it! :D These two images sum him up! : https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwarsrebels/images/6/6f/Brothers_of_the_Broken_Horn_16.jpeg/ https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/005/989/423/large/paul-wiz-johnson-chopper-starwars-rebels-trouble-variant.jpg

Josh Z

I thought Sirius was most infamous for being the first to escape Askaban; if I remember correctly, nobody else ever had.

Daniel Lee

I can tell from your profile pic :) I love Rebels too and it's a shame a lot of people refuse to watch it. One of the biggest reasons I'm hyped for the Ahsoka show is just being able to see the Rebels characters in live action

Lisette C.

You will get to know, why Harry lives with the Dursleys instead of an orphanage in Order of the Phoenix and how the whole 'muggle news thing' works in Halfblood Prince :)

Zachary

When you were talking about infamous prisoners at Azkaban the wizard you were referring to from Half-Blood prince is Grindlewald. He was never at Azkaban but was imprisoned at another prison called Nurmengard which is in Germany I believe.

King Henry Beauclerc

For some reason in this video you seem more subdued than in the others. Are you still enjoying these? It seems you didn't really like this one that much so far. Maybe (hopefully) I am wrong. Also, I recommend, if possible, to stop comparing the books to the movie. Try to look at the books separate because from now on there are few similarities between the two. One reason for this is that since you have already seen the movies you know a little bit of what happens in the series, please try to forget what you know. My opinion is the movies are really terrible compared to the books. Unfortunately it seems as if you are not enjoying the books as much because you are comparing them to the movies too much and any differences seem to be disfavorable to the books. I have only watched the first half of the video yet so hopefully I am wrong and I am probably wrong in my perception. This is all just my opinion. I am looking forward to the rest of your journey!

VeggieGamer

Hi King! I can 100% guarantee you I am REALLY enjoying covering the books! They are absolutely wonderful! As for me seeming subdued, I must admit, I am not sure how that comes across. I try to avoid RL having an effect on my onscreen attitude, but maybe I didn't do that so well in this one, and if that is the case, I am sorry that is how I came across. It definitely isn't anything reflective on how much I like the books. As for comparing the books to the movies, you are absolutely right. I need to chill on that. I do want to compare somethings (like the different but both glorious Knight Bus scenes), but I don't need to Whittle that down to doing it on how Hermione talks about Scabbers, etc. Now I think about it that is a bit OTT. XD Thank you so much for your genuine feedback! It is the only way I can improve and I will make sure I am more bushy-tailed for the next one! :)

Anders Ekren

Many of your questions and speculations are really relevant, especially for later. Keep them in mind for the later books!

VeggieGamer

Oh, you did make a comment in it, if that is what you mean, Annette! :)

Annette Elliott

Harry practicing the Lumos Maxima spell at the beginning of the movie is one of many little scenes that contradict the books. Heck it even contradicts info from the end of the first movie where Harry tells Hagrid that he knows they're not allowed to use magic outside Hogwarts. Chamber also contradicted that when Hermione fixed Harry's glasses in Diagon Alley. Actually Mr Weasley did that in the book. The only reason it was plausible in CIS is because so many wizards, adult and underage, that there would be no way to tell who cast the spell. Everyone would think you were crazy if you went around spouting off about a family member being a witch. You might even be locked uup. 700 galleons equals about 4,000 pounds. Head Boy is mentioned in COS because Tom Riddle was Head Boy I believe.

Garry (Not Jerry)

I mean yes that’s why he’s infamous NOW but I don’t think that was what the article was talking about

Garry (Not Jerry)

You know I was going to reply with the “movie explanation” for why the dursleys take Harry in but you’re right, there isn’t one! Not that I can think of anyway.

Garry (Not Jerry)

You realise he hasn’t covered the hogwarts express chapter yet?

Garry (Not Jerry)

Bill was indeed head boy. But I will say nothing further about Bill until he is mentioned. 🤐

Thunderbird

Bill was indeed Headboy, you got that right. 😊 However, his character is very different from Percy’s. But don’t worry, you will get to meet all the Weasley members more in detail in future books. Charlie was also a Prefect but didn’t make it to head boy. Instead, he was also captain of the Gryffindor Quiddich team. James Potter’s father was Fleamont Potter. He was famous for inventing the «Sleekeazy's Hair Potion» (Harry should really get some of that 😄). This is how he made a fortune (though the Potters have always been a wealthy family). His wife / Harry’s grandmother is Euphemia Potter. They both died of Dragon Pox before Harry was born.

Frances Powell

NGL The longer the better, I love these. The English Breakfast, the Australian version ... Fried eggs (2), bacon (2), fried mushrooms (about 3/4 cup), fried tomato (1, cut in half), baked beans (littlest tin), two pieces of toast, a glass of orange juice, and lastly a cup of tea or coffee.

Ziro the Hutt

Thanks, I wasn't sure. Obviously it should be 6 over the course of two years, 3 per year; but with all th events happening around him I knew he hadn't played all of those. He missed the last one in first year after the Philosopher's Stone encounter, and last year one got cancelled when Hermione got attacked, but I can't think of the other?

Katie

My perfect English breakfast would be sausage, bacon, toast (not fried), fried egg (or poached), fried tomato and baked beans (has to be Branston beans though not Heinz cause they taste artificial. Also adding some butter and pepper to the beans when cooking them makes them taste even better). As for drinks I would have English breakfast tea and orange juice as well.

Katie

Hogwarts Legacy is meant to be set in the 1890s so around 100 years before Harry goes to Hogwarts. The Invisible book of Invisibility is definitely a scam. They never found them 😂 Arthur is staying at the Leaky Cauldron with his family to keep an eye on Harry and make sure he gets on the train safely. Arthur probably told Ron where Harry was staying on the way to the pub or once they got there. Harry is walking around Diagon Alley freely so anyone could see him and see where he's staying. People like Tom and I suspect Florean Fortescue are keeping on eye on him the whole time he's there though. I think squibs are like the opposite of a Muggle born. Not only because Muggle borns are born from non magic parents and squibs are born from magic parents but because Muggle born students don't know anything about the wizarding world and then they go into a wizarding school and squibs don't really know about the Muggle world and then they will possibly go to a Muggle school. I imagine some might be home schooled though but it makes sense to try and get them acclimatised to the Muggle world. I've seen people criticise the rules of Quidditch many times but they don't appreciate the fact that J K Rowling invented a brand new sport. I think that's amazing. Then again I'm not a sports person so maybe I just don't care about the finer points of the game 😆 It's still impressive regardless though.

Garry (Not Jerry)

they only played one in book 2. The second was cancelled and I guess they were still on 'lockdown' for the third!

Ben Preuss

I really, really enjoy what you are doing in reviving the HP enthusiasm again, I would also greatly appreciate it if you could make a statement about the views the author has expressed towards their trans audience, not to further hate, but the exact opposite?

Garry (Not Jerry)

it's almost there, she just needed to time-box the match instead of ending when the snitch is caught, and make the snitch worth less points. They could have more than one player looking for it. Or none, and having the whole team concentrate on the quaffle. Could be an interesting tactic. I think the wizarding world was much more whimsical and silly in the first book, and she ended up including things that didn't really make as much sense in later books once it got darker and more serious. The idea of a quidditch match potentially lasting for days just sounds fun and silly. Nitwit, blubber, oddment, tweak (indeed).

VeggieGamer

Hi Bettina, thanks for the question. Honestly, if I were to put out a statement on it (I don't know everything but know the 'gist' of it), it would kind of be a non-statement. I think a lot of you who have watched my videos for a while can probably guess what my opinions on the subject are, but when I started this series I wanted to focus on what people love about this story. I know that probably sounds like a bit of a cop-out, but I want to view this from the standpoint of before the division started in the fanbase. Sorry if that sounds like I am turning a blind eye to what has happned, I promise you I am not. If you would like me to go further / say this in a video then please feel free to ask in the Book Club post.

Katie

The Quidditch matches lasting for days makes me think of Cricket matches which actually can last for days. I think some of these Quidditch details in the books might apply more to the professional games than just Hogwarts ones. I've heard a theory before that Nitwit, blubber, oddment, tweak is referencing the four houses. I love all the whimsy in book 1.

Embran

Yeah, sorry. My comment should have been in the new 4. So i'm gonna remove this one and place it where it belongs. Thanks.

Rebecca May

Thanks for this video, Veggie... I've been having a really terrible week and this video has been keeping me company and helping take my mind off it for a little while. By the way, I think the format of these videos is perfect - three chapters is a great compromise between getting through the story quickly enough but also allowing you to go into as much detail as you want. Either way, just do what makes you happy.

VeggieGamer

Sorry to hear you have had a bad week, Rebecca! Hope things get better!

Q

Love the video, Veggie! And I hope you don't mind me rambling a bit here: I'd been feeling really down on Harry Potter before finding your reactions. I started reading the books when I was 5, so I can barely remember a time I wasn't in love with this world. Watching Rowling descend into so much bigotry has therefore really hurt, particularly the transphobia for me (I'm genderqueer). It felt like such a betrayal, and everywhere I looked on the internet or in real life, this thing I love so much was either taken over by people supporting Rowling's bigotry or abruptly discarded by people disgusted with her. I can't blame people for distancing themselves from someone who hurt them, and I can't encourage anyone to financially support someone who's donating to causes that encourage violence against trans people. But I also can't stop loving these stories and characters that have been such a huge part of my life. Finding your videos, a fresh experience by someone who seems (though correct me if I'm wrong) respectful and supportive of differences, has been such a blessing. The books themselves, the meaning we take from them, the messages they do contain about love, acceptance, courage, and family, are still worth reading and loving. You've helped me to reconcile this internal conflict somewhat, and I appreciate that so much. With the emotional ramble done, a minor correction to one of the book club comments: Harry does get Christmas gifts for his friends and at least some birthday gifts! I don't remember off the top of my head if they were mentioned in the first or second book, but they definitely are in future books. Also for the tying packages to the owls' legs bit, it seems to be common practice and I always assumed it was just so they didn't have to keep a grip on packages, especially bulky or awkwardly shaped ones. Which would make it practical and kind! (though there may still be better ways to do it)

VeggieGamer

Hi Q, thank you so much for your very kind comment! I had heard a bit regarding the author going into watching the movies, and you guys have filled me in with a lot more detail since. I make it a conscious decision to not bring this stuff up because I want to experience the story and fandom how it was before the division started. I think you can probably guess what my thoughts are on things that have been said by the author, but I want my videos to be an escape from that kind of real world drama, much like the original story was to so many people growing up. :) I really appreciate the kind words, they mean a lot to me!

itsanursething

Veggie, I love your sincere enthusiasm and curiosity for the books! It always brings a smile to my face and I WISH I could have a proper conversation with you about all things Harry Potter :) And PLEASE do not apologize for being upset by upsetting things in the book. Marge is upsetting all around. HaHa! Also, I want to apologize in advance for this post. I know reading is tough for you (even though I think you're doing great in the book club!) and this is going to be a LOONG comment. To answer some questions you had in this video, in no particular order: Harry's grandparents are not in the picture. James's parents were elderly when he was born (they thought they were unable to have children) and lived long enough to see him marry Lily, but both died of Dragon Pox shortly after. Not much is known about Lily's parents. Apparently JKR has said they both died "normal muggle deaths" before Lily and James were killed...whatever that means. Harry stays with Mrs. Figg when the Dursleys go on holiday. It's mentioned in the article Harry reads on the Knight Bus that Fudge spoke with the muggle Prime Minister about Sirius escaping from Azkaban. This is how the news knew what to report. I'm sure that's all the information he gave, so as to keep the secret of the Wizarding World intact. In the book, Harry tells Hedwig to stay out of the house while Marge is there so she doesn't cause drama. I'm assuming this was the case in the movie as well, but we don't see much before Marge arrives. I always attributed the flickering lights to Harry being so upset. Young wizards can't control their magic when they're upset (hence the Marge balloon), so I'm sure all kinds of things go haywire around them. JKR has said that she wishes she had come up with the shrunken head featured in the Knight Bus. I had summer homework every year. Had a book list to read, and a book report to write on one or two books. *sigh* It was awful. I think Ron feels he is the only one allowed to put down/make fun of his family because he is a part of it. Despite how much he wishes his family had more money, he loves them dearly and will never let anyone else disparage them. OK, I think that's enough rambling now. Until next time!! You're the best!

Alexis Burrows

But she has NOT said anything 'anti-trans' - EVER. All she has done is stand up for WOMENS rights. A TOTALLY different subject.

Nix001

Deep breath and glass of water time and another 10 points to Hufflepuff if you made it this far Veggie! (or maybe a double butter beer!)

Frances Powell

Random thought: My headcanon is that Mr and Mrs Evans died in a car crash. If Lily was 21 when she died, Petunia would have probably been 23 or 24. That's still very young to have both of your parents die, especially within a couple of years of each other. IMO Petunia used her own parents death as "inspiration".

itsanursething

I’ve thought that too! Her parents were far too young to die of “natural causes.” A car crash makes perfect sense, and explains why they would use that as their explanation about Harry’s parents.

Saiyasha

I think you misunderstand the threat level of sirius in context. Of course, Fudge thinks he is dangerous and mad, but they are excpecting him to be a lone, wandless wizard. Mad and determined, yes, but if he were to openly turn up in Diagon Alley, he'd be captured almost immediatly. You mentioned tat we see deatheaters in diagon alley, but that is either when A) They were not known or only suspected to be deatheaters or after the ministry had fallen and if you are the people in charge no one is going to keep you from going anywhere, would they? Remember, no livining person except Lupin knows that Sirius is an animagus, so in their eyes, all he could do would gbe to wander into Diagon Alley, where he would be recognized and caught immediatly. Harry is under the circumstances as safe as he can be anywhere in Diagon Alley And lets be Serious (haha) If Sirius could get into Diagon Alley unnoticed, he could get into the Leaky Cauldron unnoticed. It is right next door after all.

Saiyasha

I don't think the magic power of the spell counts, but the Visibility. If Harry had been doing Lumos at the Dursleys, he would _absolutely_ have gotten a letter five minutes later telling him that he was either facing expulsion or would be very _ very_ close to it.

Mordimer

Here's some amazing athletes who never, or barely never lost. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1074911-the-20-most-untouchable-athletes-ever One of them I will copy here if you don;t want to go into the link: Cael Sanderson Not everyone who reads this will know who Cael Sanderson is. They should, though. In 2004, he won a gold medal in Athens, but that’s not even the most impressive part of his resume. Sanderson is the only wrestler in NCAA Division I history to go undefeated with more than 100 wins. Say that last sentence in your head a couple of times. Childish writing? This kind of athletes exist.