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Season 1, Episode 10 | 'A Powerful Mage'

Frieren: Beyond Journey's End

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Otaku's Finest

I can a soon as I got the notification😜 Frieren with the "Kill Yourself"

Otaku's Finest

Also, the danger message you understood Flamme give to Frieren about demons is the same message that Giyu was giving Tanjiro in the first episode of Demon Slayer

Daniel Pitts

In comes Frieren with the Aura farming ;-). Epic mic drop moment.

Not Eric Talbott

This is one of the best episodes of anime of all time.

Glyder78

Remember when Graf said that the strong willed are able to resist the scales for a time? Aura didn't last 10 seconds.

GardeninTool

Frieren is capable of dimensional time travel because she came straight out of a 2012 CoD lobby. 😭

HalcyonSerenade

23:15 it's ok... I've watched this _countless_ times by now, and I still have the same exact reaction to these parts. Even while I'm watching someone *else* watch it 😅

Brandon

This episode alone boosted Frieren into my top 5 easily

Mark Repka

God I love this episode SO much

Silver

You seem to have a lot more to say. If ever you just want to post a recap in your own words or things you’ve learned after the fact from watching some of the episodes, we would love it. More so like as a whole from all the episodes.

Soushi Typhon

you're being annoying, saying this type of comment is in a way a spoiler

uxsu

Now it also makes sense that Frieren witnessed her master beg for her life a lot (she said in episode 5 to Fern and didn't explain what she means when Fern asked). Probably Flamme was begging for her life to trick demons into believing she is a weakling. Even in this episode she asks will they let her go if she leaves Frieren behind :)

Loki Tolmuir

You don’t have to retain (hold back ?? ) your tears that hard.

Matthias

noooooooo I was going to write this joke but you were faster. You're obviously a scholar and person of fine taste, well played.

gram

Perfect, and then Violet Evergarden gets a ridiculous number of views!

Drift3r

I really like this episode. The writer demonstrated that you really don't need fancy fight scenes to build up the excitement/hype meter for viewers. All you really need is compelling characters, dialogue and a narrative that ties it all up with a high stakes moment. And Frieren telling Aura The Guilletine to kill herself was low-key gangster by Frieren. Pro-tip: Elves have long pointy ears. Humans do not.

Chris

One of the greatest mic drops of all time

bukuwawa

Delicious reaction

Robbie Kelsey

Frieren also killed qual with his own magic zoltraak, another thing to take note of is aura mentioned she didn't see any instability in Frierens mana, when they suppress mana it has instabilities, you can see in Frierens training scenes her mana is more rough and wavy but by the end it's smooth and more controlled because she's been suppressing for so long it's become natural.

Vincent

"And you're alright." Playing right after Aura killed herself is so funny. I just noticed it but you look a lot like Flamme. Def a cosplay idea if you ever get into that community too. The scene of Frieren walking behind and talking with Flamme reminds me of the scenes of Fern walking behind Frieren in episode 2. Frieren says to Flamme that she loves magic and Flamme responds with "so do i". In e2, Frieren says that she only likes magic somewhat, just like Fern. Fern responds with "I think we are different" and Frieren says confidently "we're the same". Himmel having flowers planted at his grave using Flamme's magic and saying the same thing to Frieren that Frieren said to Flamme. Of course Frieren was drawn to him. I think the show does a great job of misdirecting watchers into feeling tension before Frieren reveals her true mana pool and age but when you rewatch you see that its confirmed a few times that Frieren is at least 1000. When they first talk about Flamme in epsiode 4 they say she lived 1000 years ago. Ludger references Flamme as a genius and says "a spell cast by a mage 1000 years ago" while the image on screen shows Flamme with Frieren casting the spell on a small sapling. Something that is easy to miss is. Flamme told Frieren to suppress her mana to 1/10 its normal volume to train then 1000 years later when they meet Heiter estimates Frieren has 1/5 of his mana so that means at the beginning of the party's journey, Heiter had about half Frieren's mana pool AS A HUMAN PRIEST. Feels like an extraordinary feat. And lastly, I think its very interesting that the demons from 1000 years ago have to summon staffs to use magic whereas none of the modern demons we see use staffs to cast spells. Frieren clearly can cast spells without her staff as thats how she killed Draht but Fern needs to summon her staff to her before she can threaten Ludger.

Kaiin Retsu

So a couple things, one, Flamme is pronounced Flahm, not Flame. But considering when we learn about Flamme originally, we find out she was a mage from 1000 years ago, Frieren was her student, so we knew she was at least 1000 years old. Even when Flamme met Frieren 1000 years prior, Frieren was the strongest mage in her Elven village, and only survivor. So from then, being strong enough to beat a general and all his forces, she has been training on improving her mana under Flamme after that, and continuing that training for 1000 years after beating that general. That shows how strong Frieren really is.

Carl Rigney

Thank you for a very entertaining reaction to one of the best episodes in anime! That was a lot of fun to watch.

Cronshaw

One thing that is pretty clear by this point in the show is that when it comes to fighting with magic Frieren is both very cagey and very calculating. That’s on full display here. In episode 9 she taunts and praises Aura, likely to see if she can get a rise out of Aura and make her use the scales immediately. Then she uses a spell Aura has never seen before and cost a lot of mana to bait her into thinking she’s exhausted her mana. And it’s only when she’s sure of victory she shows her hand. The same thing happens with Quall on a smaller scale.

GhostPhil

This show has so much worldbuilding, visually the outfits in the flashbacks to the time when Flamme lived represent outfits from antique times in our history. This alone is such a cool detail and it is only one of many parts of a great worldbuilding.

DapperDad

27:42 Welcome to anime lol

aloekayeANIME

I feel like I always have more to say haha thank you guys for validating that you enjoy the thought tangents and commentary! I kind of want to do a final discussion/analysis video at the end of Frieren just bcI think I would enjoy it so much and maybe you guys would too. But still it feels impossible to encapsulate everything we've seen and could piece together in Frieren... and watching it at different points in our lives we'll garner different things I can only imagine. 💫

aloekayeANIME

Thank you guys for the pronunciation support! 💛 I think I do start correcting ep 11 that it's Flah-may. I'm going to start double-checking myself as I'm watching moving forward for proper names to make sure I get the phonetics down better. And appreciate the rest of the insights, that's a cool way to look at it that she was that strong even then when Flamme met Frieren... I can't even imagine Frieren's full capabilities!!

aloekayeANIME

Oh such a dope detail in the animation I didn't notice!! Ty for the insight 💫💛

aloekayeANIME

EXACTLY lol the chill/endearing outro playing after some insane scene will never not be such a funny thing to me haha. Some of my responses: > I've never cosplayed but this is a HUGE compliment Flamme is other-worldly to me💫 > Amazing parallel between Flamme/Frieren and Frieren/Fern (love all the F alliterations by the way w that) > This detail I did catch w the bed of flowers spell, hit my soul.🌼🥹🤍 > General note but you guys are really good about the timeline of all these things (re: Frieren being over 1000 and Heiter's mana levels based on the timeline, etc.). Super interesting to read thru. > Also another intesting point about magic through the use of a staff vs. without. I'm going to try to keep my eye out for that detail moving forward Fun read through, tysm!!

Jonathan

Reactions to this episode just never, ever, get old. :)

aloekayeANIME

LOVE when universes intersect, ty for this I love seeing parallels like this 💛💫

Eric Loesch

lol, this one is a goodie

HalcyonSerenade

Ok, essay time. Because I consider E09 + E10 to be one of the greatest anime episode duos of all time, and the craft of the storytelling with the action and tension deserves some analysis. This little arc lasts from E07 through E10, with a denouement at the beginning of E11; a total of 4.2 episodes or so. (I'm pretty sure Kaye has already seen E11 at this point, so that's no spoiler.) There's a lot to this whole sequence of episodes, but I'm going to focus on the goal of E10 and how E9's presentation feeds into that. As we see, the crux of Frieren's anti-demon strategy is deception -- the enemy demons have to not realize that the mage (be it Fern, Frieren, or Flamme... all 'F' names, come to think of it 🤔) is suppressing her mana, and underestimate them. If you were writing this, how would you demonstrate how effective this strategy is? Well, you could tell us about the strategy and let us enjoy the dramatic irony as the demons fumble around in panic at their inexplicable loss. Not bad, and we do get to see that a little bit, but if we do that right from the start then it's not really an interesting conflict anymore. If we did that, we'd know 1) who wins, 2) how they win, and 3) what it costs to win (in the case of this plan, nothing) and those are kinda the big three sources of uncertainty (and thus tension) in action scenes. I mean, there's more to it than that, but those are the big ones -- we gotta keep at least one of those alive to have a good through-line for the tension. Let's consider the audience perspective of Frieren vs Aura. We pretty much know already that Frieren is going to win -- we know she's powerful in ways we've yet to comprehend. We also *kinda* have an expectation for how she'll win, too -- probably with some epic magic spells. (This turns out to not be the case, but we the audience tend to *assume* that's where this is going, and we'll revisit that expectation later!) We're not sure what it will cost, but if Fern and Stark aren't participating, then at least it won't cost their lives. So... not all that much tension, right? We kinda already have an idea of all 3 possible points of tension even *before* we know "the plan." So let's go back to Fern+Stark vs Lugner+Linie and see what the author did to shake up some of those expectations. Do we know who will win? Well, maybe -- Fern and Stark will most likely come out on top, as Protagonist Privilege. Do we know how they will win? Not at all, especially once they get ambushed -- Stark gets dragged down to the ground and Fern gets skewered against a wall. At this point we're totally unsure how they're gonna get out of this grim situation. Do we know what it will cost to win? This is the scary part. Even if we're pretty sure Fern and Stark will come out on top, are the demons going to do any lasting damage to either of them? What if one of them has to make a heroic sacrifice to ensure they both win? What if they're about to become just another demonstration of Frieren's theme of grief and loss? Yikes! So from all three of these points, we've got a *lot* of tension here. We're only kind of assured our heroes will win, but we don't at all see the line to victory and we're really afraid it's going to cost them something even if they do find it. So now that all of this is set up, let's return to the earlier question: if you were writing this, how would you demonstrate Fern's strategy? It's too late to tell us right away what the strategy is -- the battle already started, plus that would do away with all that "we don't know how they'll win" tension that just got set up. So that's out. We could have the heroes pretend to struggle a bit and make vague mental references to "not yet... not yet!" and at a critical moment, pull a "gotcha!" as they launch their master plan into action and turn the tides! ... well that sounds exciting and all, and we definitely get a lot of that in action anime. (Kind of an *annoying* amount of that, actually 😅). But remember: the core of this idea is deceiving the demons and their mana intuition. So what's an even better way to show that? What did the writers actually choose to do? *We flip perspectives.* For most of that fight, we're in Lugner's head! We're hearing *his* thoughts and *his* assessment of the situation. He explicitly states that Fern's consistent quantity of attacks confuses him, because her low mana indicates she hasn't trained enough to pull all of that off. He even has a moment of thinking he'll just focus on defense and outlast her remaining mana, then realizes mere seconds later, "uh oh" as his defenses are getting overpowered because he misjudged how much mana she had left. Before we're even told that the whole point is to trick him into misjudging mana, we *hear his thoughts* about exactly that trickery happening! We don't just see Fern succeed -- we see Lugner get totally thrown off by *something* she's doing, which we later learn is her mana suppression. And of course, the fight is spectacular. Amazing visuals and animation, in both fights. In the end, Lugner realizes the trick and mentions how cowardly and disgraceful it is, and Fern responds that she and Frieren both know it -- indicating that Frieren will also approach Aura the same way. But crucially, *not* revealing what that "way" is. Oh, hey! Suddenly our number 2 point of tension for Frieren vs Aura is back online! The "how they win" question: we now for sure *don't* know how she's going to beat Aura. We likely assumed it would be with some kind of impressive spell slinging, but we were essentially just told by Fern that it's not going to be a direct and open fight, using some kind of technique that Lugner was upset by but that neither of them clarified. And this is the real genius of this duo episode. Fern+Stark vs Lugner+Linie acts as a spectacular action finale, while Frieren vs Aura acts as a *thematic* finale that explains Frieren's outlook, much of her backstory, and Fern's strategy for the fight we already saw. We get a very satisfying spectacle fight that releases a lot of tension from that side of the plot BUT still leaves some open conflict still (what's the secret strategy? How exactly is Frieren vs Aura going to play out?), all so we can pull back the energy a little and deliver some backstory that *also* answers those remaining questions. And that's brilliant! So often, writers struggle to include backstory in a compelling way -- it can easily feel like it's halting the actual plot's momentum, even if it's answering questions we've been wondering about. Frieren's E10 gets around this by shooting half a flock of birds with one stone. Over half of this episode is backstory with Frieren and Flamme, but it earns our attention by 1) giving us a breather after the intense E09 battle that already stands as a satisfying action sequence, and 2) answering a metric ass-ton of questions: - Who exactly was Flamme? We see her briefly in E04 and a few other flashbacks, but we know very little of her. - Where does Frieren come from? Where is her elf family? Are there any other elves at all? - How did Frieren and Flamme meet? What was the nature of their student-teacher bond? - What was Frieren doing during those 1000ish years before Himmel recruited her? If she's only famous for being part of Himmel's party despite being so old and powerful, why? Why not famous for anything before then? - How *did* Himmel recruit her? Did he hear about her before? Did she apply for an interview? - What *is* this secret technique for beating demons? Notice that last one: it's REALLY important, because that one is actually relevant to the *current situation.* That's the smart move right there -- it's making sure the backstory actually answers a question the audience has *about the current conflict.* And *most* of the flashback goes into that explanation. It doesn't really feel like it meanders, because we *know* already that it's relevant to what Frieren is about to do to Aura. And we even know why it matters! Because we know how Aura's magic scales work (weighing the mana value of the two souls) and thus her decision to take the risk to use it depends on her perception of her enemy's mana... a perception which we now know Flamme taught Frieren to deliberately screw with. And oh man, that perception! We see mana fields here and there throughout the show up to this point, but it's never been super consequential -- just a simple visualization of general power level. Starting in E09, we see Fern's mana field through the eyes of Lugner, who's frustrated that someone with such little mana could best him. Suddenly the mana field plays into his assessment of her. Then at the beginning of E10, we see Frieren's mana over 1000 years ago, through the eyes of Flamme... and we see a direct comparison between Frieren's unrestrained mana from back then vs. Flamme's mana... though we learn that's her concealing it. A few minutes later, we see Flamme unleash some power to defeat demon mages, and we see her enormous mana field -- the huge difference between her suppressed field and her unrestrained one. Shortly after that, we see a similar direct comparison: Aura's large field versus Frieren's smaller one, which Aura is yet unaware is suppressed. (It can't hurt to remind the audience that this is what Aura is seeing, either. How do they do that? They use the shot at 19:19, where we get an extreme close-up on Aura's eye with Frieren and her small mana field reflected in it, showing us exactly how she sees the situation.) That leads to a natural open question: we've seen Frieren's mana field from 1000 years ago, but now that she has 1000 years under her belt, what does her unleashed mana field look like *now*? We know it's gotta be large... but *how* large? We wanna see it! The writers leave that answer for just the right moment -- that climactic and iconic shot where she unleashes her mana and it covers the entire screen, and we have to ZOOM OUT for several seconds just to eventually see its edges! (And by the way, deliberately starting too "zoomed in" to see the whole thing is WAY more effective at communicating shocking size than cutting immediately to the proper framing.) And of course, the even more iconic line that follows, which is hilariously cold but also hides a little bit of a thematic gem. In the end, Aura "kills herself" -- but since Frieren is manipulating demons' overconfidence to defeat them, aren't they all "killing themselves" already with their hubris? (I mean, *technically* no, when Frieren or whoever deals the actual killing blow. But the theme of the demon stepping into the danger zone out of arrogance is there.) Fern in E09 shows us how a mage can use mana suppression to trick a demon into an overconfidence spiral that leads to them losing. Frieren in E10 shows us that a *master* of that tricky technique sometimes doesn't even need to cast a spell at a demon to win. It's not a spectacle like Fern vs Lugner -- it's instead the pure, distilled presentation of the suppression strategy, in all its "don't worry about being flashy" thematic juicy glory, with no action sequence to distract us from the ideas. And it's sure no less exciting for a lack of action, *because* they set up the tension questions and answers so well. Weaving together backstory, tension expectations, world building with the magic system and demon social structures, and balancing spectacle and thematic salience is an incredible accomplishment. Just a fantastic couple episodes of fiction. And that's not even getting into cool details like the society in Frieren's flashbacks with Flamme looking like they had the fashion of ancient Greece and Rome to make it look like an older time. Or how Frieren seemed to have an intuition that Flamme was hiding her power, and Himmel seemed to have the exact same intuition about Frieren, even down to using the same exact phrase. I hesitate to say that E10 is the greatest anime episode of all time, because I know there are some *banger* episodes out there in other series. Besides, I think E09 deserves a lot of credit for tossing the alley-oop for E10 to slam-dunk. I do think it's fair to say it's among the greats, and probably in the contest for greatest as a pair.

Kaiin Retsu

Something some people do is just turn on the English real quick to see how the English VA's say the names, it helps. Like Stark, I doubt anyone cares if you read it as traditional Stark, but its technically Shtark, all the names have a bit of old English or old Germanic twist to them.

Wren

Just for the record, you'll see that most names in that show are of German origin, except for Flamme, which is French. So for the pronunciation, it's something like "Flahm," where the last "e" is barely there.

Marty D

Welcome to the real Frieren the Slayer :)

Hemlock

Now I fear you are to be in the same predicament as me. I have yet to see another scene as bad ass and COLD as that "fight" between Aura and Frieren. "I am a mage who has loved for over a thousand" whole battle field sized mana coverage and then tells one of the seven sages to kill themselves and doesn't even make eye contact with her and leaves.

Duath23

I think this is just a coincidence of French and German sharing the same word, Flamme is also a German, they both mean flame.

Charles Hartford

Not sure if anyone mentioned this already but a great detail in this episode; the montage of Frieren’s thousand years and the rapid fire shots of the hero’s journey are proportional to each other. Meaning the hero’s journey is one one-hundredth the time of the montage to visually represent the relative presence of each in her life. A fantastic detail.

VeggyZ

Learning to not be empathetic to a fault is a VERY important life lesson - if you're a good natured person, of course that would most likely end up as your default - but it will also be EASILY used against you, or even use YOU against the misfortunate without you even realizing if you're too idealistic. You have to be on guard for it. A lot of people - a whole lot of them - don't realize that. They can even bring themselves to do horrible things out of "empathy" - and ignore all the harm it causes, because they are assured that "they're the good one" - but it doesn't really work like that. You have to be intelligent and thoughtful as well. Sometimes people ARE just out to take advantage of what they view as weakness - when it's not being taken advantage of, it's GENERALLY a good thing, though even the positive effects have some pretty negative undertones in the long run... Empathy itself isn't evil, but it can become a corrupting influence - not to sound too "anime" here or anything - but there's a definite place these authors draw their inspiration from - and lots of them do have some fairly real and profound inspiration, from their own lives. The people who take advantage of said empathy are just as corrupt. They're everywhere too. I won't go into any more detail than that, because I don't want to get too controversial - but anyone who's lived life a little while recognizes this without even acknowledging they do...

VeggyZ

One thing I've always loved about anime is how it has this surprising ability to make people emotional. I'm trying to get my 70 year old mother to watch a particularly emotional anime right now - because she cried at "The Lion King" haha... I don't want to kill her with grief or anything... but I swear I'll get her to watch Attack on Titan (Shingeki no Kyojin) - it's ...possibly one of the wildest rollercoasters of emotion you can find anywhere. Also a masterpiece visually, and with it's audio - and honestly, I think the direction is EXTREMELY good too. I just have to get her to watch it with me before she goes blind or something. She doesn't believe me about it - that it's as great as it is, particularly for her - but damn she's going to be a crying mess, I bet. I know fully grown men who have admitted they cried at several anime. For some reason, great animation can do that in a peculiar way, and it hits home with a wide swathe of people, anime in particular, maybe because of some of the storytelling style, messes people up who can watch even real horrible stuff, from irl, without batting an eyelash. It's pretty interesting actually. That's why I love it - whether it's getting the chills, or shedding tears - it's so much damn fun.

Whoizjohn

I mean you could pull a pro gamer move and just rewatch and re-react its actually crazy the themes and re-occuring dialogue from the rip(no pun intended) at episode 1

D Jung

Like Duath23 said, Flamme is also a normal german word. There is a often used idiom in german. "Feuer und Flamme sein" means to be extremely enthusiastic, passionate, or excited about someone or something.