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We interrupt our regularly scheduled programming to talk through the first Trump / Biden debate and whether or not it will be Sleepy Joe’s last. Plus: democrats in full freakout mode, and the shirt of the summer (plus fall)

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First! Lfg

Noah

🚨BANGER ALERT BANGER ALERT 🚨

Sean Day

Biden’s got a lot of handicaps but the golf one isn’t the most substantial

Sander Emerick

Never clicked on a Patreon notification faster

MoldyTolge

I’ve been cleaning out a basement for two days, doing battle with spiders and centipedes. This is the relief I need

巨栗子

that's not the roundball rock intro I was promised!

Nils Moojen

They should replace Biden... With someone even older and more decrepit. That'd show us.

Natalie

Right before my hour long walk LETS GOOOOOO

Eric Bailey

“Im in there I’m touching em” is CRAZY

Johnny B

I’m waiting to see how Biden dances to YMCA before casting my vote.

Mountain Dew Or Crab Juice

Proudly voting Biden in November, fist in the air and chanting 'We need the machines!'

Satcomdaemon

He did so much better than I expected.

Brian

😵‍💫

Richard Cochnar

Vote True No Matter Who theme song is soundin real nice

NYCM&AHole

Biden taking the mafia approach to criminal liability, pretending to be insane shuffling around

Brian Ward

Vote Feinstein's corpse 2024

cogandbal

So true was waiting for this

Brian Ward

I have not listened yet but I would just like to say, shame on you for picking on a neurodivergent senior like that

Michael

Jimmy Carter is still alive

Michael

Seeing Biden on Thursday made me realize the weakness of my own flesh. And it disgusts me.

Tim O'

Biden Brain Liquefied

Nils Moojen

Time to get that second term, Jimbo

Lulu

"I've seen ya swing I know yuh swing"

BeanCurd

Brace Belden underrated queer icon

Jawn Feddermang

Racial Jake is GAY!!! this is great news

Jason Edmiston

Might as well do a "✅️Gay Man for RFK, jr" too. Those people have $$$.

John McElroy

Are there more than one Biden? Or is deep fake AI sending out multiple social media Biden’s

John Lemieux

Brace, I’m happy to have a driving contest with you.

George P

Trump is 100% correct about Biden's golf ability, there is a zero percent chance that decrepit old fuck was playing to a single-digit index. Trump probably was at the beginning of his presidency but he's so old now too I'm sure he's lost a lot of distance off the tee since 2017,

Mango Bolsonaro

Im pretty sure Trump realized all he had to do was talk like a normal person at a certain point and he’d “win” the debate. So I don’t think he really gave much effort making his points all that coherent… as long as they were said while the crypt keeper standing next to him kept speaking with the voice of a death rattle it would make him sound good.

Leebos

Me, I have money. I have desire.

Shadowil

Where can I get that shirt

Lucy

They had to start keeping Kamala away because she was spooking old Biden and they had to resegregate the White House to remind him of his childhood

D

Big fan of Joe tacitly admitting he was sidelined as VP so he focused on his golf game.

K H

Legendary gay pussy eata

Chris

its really funny that the blue MAGA people forced biden and harris on us in 2020, then forced biden again this time, just to back out last minute leaving their plan stuck with kamala the xanax machine as the only viable candidate they can use otherwise they'll be called racist by each other on reddit >.< In other words, the new war on biden from the NYT et al could only ever put a worse candidate on the ballet for dems. Funnier, but far worse. Maybe she can be "our" George W Bush?

Erika

Obamna 🥺👿 SODAAAA 🥤😀🥶🔥

K H

People are saying the flesh is weak. Not me though you. Not me. I don't have flesh. I have the purity of STEEEL ok. People are saying. They're actually saying this. I am the omniSAIAH folks. Thats what people are saying. Your flesh is weak. Joe wants your flesh to be weak. Not me though.

K H

Some gay dude. Supposedly sucked Obama's dick.

Michael

Can you believe this malarkey? He’s saying he’s the omnisaiah. That’s heresy Jack!

nflonineO

The gay guy for trump shirt is still very funny

J HUTCH

*shuffling a Quarter in my sweaty palm* Biden... or Sunak. Call it.

Major Pisano

Life alert ad : *joe Biden voice* help ! I’ve fallen and I can’t get up!

K H

Now now listen here Jack. I... I've been to- I've been on the Golden Throne with Malkador the Sigillite. And when Trump buh uhhh I mean Horus said you didn't build that...I said you put...you let underhive kids listen to a servo skull they're just as smart as White kids. IRRESPECTIVE of the bussing situation. The bussing i-i-it doesn't even matter. I'm sorry I shouldn't have said that. Is...where...is Tiberius back yet?

Tammy

Best debate ever! Loved it, we do good debates here, don’t we folks? The best debates in the free world! I might have misheard but did Trump mention after-birth abortion? When he said that, and other insane lies, Biden just looked so scared! It was great 🥰

Reece Coren

brace said new york crimes 🥹🇵🇸

snapplepeachtea

going into this election with no thoughts, head empty

I am become reply guy

Of course Brace likes old men, how do you think he got into show business?

K H

That time comes for all of us Liz? Uh no. Seek Valhal. Fear no death which you have earned. Life would be so much better if people acknowledged the limit of their life and sought an honorable death.

K H

Texasification of international criminal court. Don't matter how greased up or disabled he is. Hang em.

K H

He was too mean to Israel.

Zzz

All jokes aside, this is indeed a perilous time. Supreme Court shifts, Project 2025 proposal, pre civil war type bullshit. Buckle up, it’s def going to be a bumpy ride.

alex

this podcast is the only thing keeping me from a psychotic break during these trying times

Horseloverfat

Searched “republican democrat gay guy” and the first result was Pete Buttigieg

Norbur

So sickening

Ian P

If you could, would any of you guys move out of the US?

Jake

Not to mention atrocities in Gaza that will never be peacefully mended

Zzz

Precisely, that’s a given. Trump keeps reiterating for Natenyahu to “finish the job” while Kushner is looking at “valuable waterfront property” in Gaza. My anxiety is through the roof.

S H

That “And! …” was fucking rough

Stop the Spread

FYI, both those assholes are declining. Equally, and it’s weird y’all don’t see it.

Arid

Before the debate I was thinking I wouldn't vote for Biden because of all the weapons to Israel. But maybe I could be swayed back if he changed course? Now it's like, good God, I actively hope Biden loses because I don't want our country run by a corpse. Does anyone really think Biden, if elected, could still function in any way in 2026? 2028? Like... fuck. It's joever

Arid

I like the food here a lot, and let's be real Trump probably won't do as much as he's promised. We've already been here, it'll be ok. Canadians don't really know how to use spices. It's sad

Arid

Yeah Trump clearly realized he was debating a corpse and totally relaxed like 30 minutes in. Kinda impressive to see

Logan

There are a ton of veterans dieing very young of various cancers. Anecdotally I know people deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan who died of glioblastoma. I don't think it's as much of a leap as it sounds at first. Actually this might be an interesting thread to pull.

Matt Murray

I keep sending screenshots of Brace's shirt to my friends telling them they have to start listening to this podcast.

CamScott

I don’t care for either of these soon to be; “The Villages newest residences”… But to clarify the “handicap” DJT was saying to Biden was about golf. Which just amplifies the absolute stupidity of it all. My two cents is this is how the non Biden 2024 Dems wanted him out, so they ill advised him to debate early so the world would react and they could pick a new front man. Also, editors note: I love you three. A lot. Not like that. But in a big way compadres.

Aiden Gibbs

Id get my autistic ass on a one-way to Vietnam (or somewhere, idk)

Paula M. Løvås

That shirt is just so chaotic, I go back and look at the picture thinking like, was it really that funny?? Answer is yes, it’s funny every time

Tea for the Tillerman

Dr. Jill, Jamal Bowman, Dr. Ruth (sex lady), Shaq—the history of postmodern America is one long Ed.D. dissertation that’s 85% plagiarized and nobody’s actually read including the author

Orson Scott Shard

The Hawaiian shirt has the Chinese republic flag on it, what does Brace mean by this

Zach Young

Can we get a golf active wear line?

Matt Jolo

We have to let 1000 candidates bloom in the DNC. Gladiator cage matches to the death until there's only one left who has drank the blood of their victims, thus absorbing their strength.

Selecao9

I am still very excited for tip line ft Adam Friedland

Nosreffej

I feel like the people in brandon's inner circle are too scared of being held accountable for Ukraine and Gaza that they're willing to risk it all for a hail mary reelection. Which I realize is an unsound theory because there is no precedent for any high officials ever being held accountable.

Corey Reynolds

If Joe doesn’t drop out and he loses in November, then I think everyone is going to hate on. Jill Biden. Not that it’ll really matter and she won’t care. I just think that’ll be hilarious.

chronye

i might vote for big dog biden after this debate ..

chronye

also brace yes he dosed too late .. i thought that too when watching

Mitch

He was one of the youngest people elected to the senate and ran for president like 3 times before he got it. Hes a freak narcisist. He/they've craved this for a long time and arent gonna give it up.

CJ

Mike Prysner shoutout, big up 🙌

Alex Gullen

Sky News (Australia) is reporting that Joe, having retreated to Camp David, is getting stern advice from Hunter (a key strategic advisor on the campaign) to push on and try and secure another 4 years. Hilarious.

Demented Avenger

Bill Hillsman, who masterminded Paul Wellstone's and Jesse Ventura's successful campaigns, told my journalism class (this was 1994, so between those) that the secret to success in politics was to "be outrageous." Liz and Brace talking about lack of enthusiasm among Democrats reminded me of this.

Kevin Weiss

been waiting far too many days for this ep, thank god. Keeping me sane during the end times

James Walker

It’s more of a criticism of me than her, but as smart as we all know Liz is, why she insists on talking like a valley-girl-teenager truly boggles the mind. I need to work on not letting shit like this bother me (obviously) since this is truly my favorite podcast!

sono

listening from the bahamas rn, that was a jumpscare

alex

liz has done wonders for the vocal fry community 🧚🏼‍♀️ leave the girls alone

Alexandria

She's from California.... I believe it's called an accent

Alexandria

The burn pit stuff is all true and we'll continue seeing cancers of all kinds coming in this cohort sadly

pzd

The Skyrim music accompanying Biden is so good lmao

Plarp

native Californian here, i love hearing our dialect represented

LizardQueen666

The funniest possible outcome would be for Biden to step down and then for the Dems to nominate Bernie

Selecao9

Liz IS a velley-girl-teenager

Chapo Bath House

Listen, I'm not even American but I have to complain about polls and pollster analysis Like, shut up. Seriously, just shut the hell up. I'm mad because I heard some leftist discrediting a model for including "unlikey to vote Trump but more likely to vote Trump post conviction", bc that would be me if by the grace of God I had not been born in my fake ass country. 1) it's funny 2) everyone's awful 3) relatable tbh 4) Eugene Debs who?

Joshua Cook

"Dad, I think you need to smoke crack before you go on stage again."

Bent Mind

Sorry for long comment, but I have 10 years experience working as a clinician in dementia diagnostics. Biden has Lewy body dementia. Stiffness/rigidity (watch him walk down stairs with stiff legs after Jill’s post debate speech, or not be able to raise his arms past his shoulders, slow to turn his neck, face doesn’t move/droops unilaterally although that could be Botox) concentration deficit (trailing off mid thought, walking off stage) blank expression, irritability/reactivity, it’s on the spectrum of Parkinson’s as Liz mentions, but lacks tremors at this stage. His cognitive deficits started before the physical (I actually noticed he was different in 2019) so that’s considered LBD rather than Parkinsons dementia. His tremors will probably start in a few years. He’ll probably be dead within 7. Somewhat easy to identify if you are in the field. He’s a particularly clear case, and I would say he’s in the middle stages. He probably can’t write anymore. Has anyone seen footage of him signing something recently? I think there’s been a profound decline recently— after 2-3 years the standard LBD drug cocktail (L-dopa, aricept, memantine, SSRI) stops helping. The atrophy outpaces the chemicals these drugs are able to pump out of the remaining cells. So, If he had 500 neurons when he started these drugs, but now has 50, no matter how many medications he takes the 50 neurons will never produce what the 500 did. We will see a precipitous drop in his capacity at this point. In his “energetic speech” the day after the debate, he seemed like he had pressed speech and I wondered if they shot him up with some kind of stimulant. But who the hell knows what he has access to. Anyway that’s the op ed no one will write, including me.

Bent Mind

Completely agree. Not a stretch at all for Biden to claim that.

Bent Mind

I don’t think we can tell if trump is declining abnormally into a dementia AT THIS MOMENT. Biden is. Trump is aging like a male with lifelong, severe ADHD/some dysexecutive syndrome and he clearly has some kind of personality disorder. There was this one time I wondered if he was having some paraphasias (unable to use precise language, but able to communicate somewhat using circumlocution), but then I never saw that again, and those with his phenotype of ADHD can jumble their speech because they’re talking faster than they are thinking.

K H

I think Liz is onto something with the enthusiam around speculating on a replacement for Joe driving election coverage this cycle. I suspect people in charge underestimate the extent to which Joe and perhaps Jill want to be there.

Lochlyn

Deboonking

Chris

I wonder how much daytime TV she crushes on this combo evrryday

Natalie

yeah you're about 5 years late with this one. If you haven't realized in 5 years, she just talks like that. But it used to be stronger. So you should really be saying, thank you Liz

Axel H.

I was gonna say, that’s just how people from this state talk. Lol

Leah Lynn

I’m an SLP and definitely see the LBD as you are describing. I also notice a huge difference in speech clarity between his reading and spontaneous speech. It is grotesque that he is publicly deteriorating even though I still believe he is an evil person.

Alex

Mee too (much like these candidates 💖)

Gator lord

Really loving the shirt, brace

Bent Mind

That’s a really great observation. I also forgot to mention how raspy he is. Striking, right? Def not due to a cold, seems obviously neuromuscular. I’d probably sell an organ to see his neuropsych notes/scans. Also lol how much you wanna bet trump’s first F words on MoCA were fuck, fart, and f*g?

Gene

Insists on 💀

Leah Lynn

I totally feel like he’s using speech strategies I would teach someone with dementia. We need those damn MoCA results from all of our presidents! 😂

Amy F

When Biden entered the post debate party, Jill welcomed him as if he were a child. She said something like, you did great, you answered EVERY question. Eek.

Mr. Polymath, Esq.

Not for nothing - my sister is a neurologist and says she and every other neurologist she knows have all noticed he has Parkinson’s for a while and the White House is refusing to admit it. Specifically she pointed out masked facies (his blank neutral expression all the time), bradyphrenia (his delayed thinking and speaking), hypophonia (his quiet, weak, breathy speech), and the rigidity in his arms and legs. Apparently nearly 80% of Parkinson’s patients develop dementia as they continue to decline so ….

Alexander Johnson

Am I the only one who has listened back to older episodes and thinks Liz got elocution lessons at some point during the show?

S. Walker

I only get my news from TA

the empty suit

I’ve seen people talking about Biden’s Catholic background, and the way that even elderly Catholics will just push themselves to work and never retire even when it’s hurting them and everyone around them 💀

Elcatz

valley-girl-teenagers can have hot takes too 🥰🫡

M Mmd

If that would be you then I think you are wildly off base thinking your comment would gain you positive attention here. Please take your crying about "some leftist" to a right wing page where you can have some rubes clap like seals at your nonsensical anger that nobody here really cares about.

Chapo Bath House

I was trying to be funny by having an incredibly specific gripe, but I guess that didn't come through. I'm not right wing. I hate Trump, I hate Biden less but there's no good option here. I'm not American, so like, I'm used to viewing US politics through ironic detachment. When I say I would be mildly tempted to vote for Trump because he is a felon, I say that in jest, but also that it would take my odds from 0% to like 1.6%, in a situation that doesn't matter because I can't vote for anyone. That's the joke. I genuinely resent the endlessly discursive poll analysis, which to be clear, is mostly a liberal, not leftist, pass time. But I do find it frustrating when I see leftists getting caught up in it because I feel like as a whole we should know better than to get wrapped up in the DNC fantasy football mindset

Bent Mind

Not to nit pick but just a kind FYI, He had cognitive decline first, before the obvious physical. He also doesn’t really have tremors yet. So that’s considered Lewy body disease. Im a neuropsychologist working in dementia diagnostics. I say this to emphasize that he’s been impaired for a LONG time. I noticed in 2019. I can see why a general neuro would say Parkinson’s but a specialist would probably say Lewy body.

steph

Liz’s Drew Barrymore impression actually goes crazy tho

Ian P

Coming back to this episode today 👀

Natalie

and a little bit of the slurp outta me