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Episode 473: Jared Leto Does Not Exist (Patreon)

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2025-07-10 13:57:47
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2025-07-10 13:58:11
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Matt from Ghost Stories for the End of the World joins us to walk through the recent set of allegations against Jared Leto. Plus: the confusing details of Leto's personal history, the managed rise of 30 Seconds to Mars, and how it all fits together to explain why, despite everything, this guy seems untouchable.

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lyn

brace brace brace brace

Chairman Corn

This will be my wife’s favorite episode yet. She loves 30 seconds to mars!

Louise O'Toole

Did you record with Hasan 🤤🤤🤤🤤

Noah

30 seconds to cum

Stewart Robertson

When I saw the title I just knew the spectral hand of the ghost boy would be at play

Adam B

Matt rules love his pod so much

Mads

Who?

kain

oh boy just wait till she hears it’s about 9 accusations of sexual assault

Mungo Franczak

Absolutely fucking insane Leto has an Oscar, btw

kain

30 seconds to the jail cell

NYCM&AHole

Let’s fuckin ghooooostboy Matt

DRS

Should I expose my wife to TrueAnon for the first time tomorrow on our 8 hour drive with this episode? Who am I kidding, she’ll be asleep.

Mountain Dew Or Crab Juice

Listen to the subtle off-white audio. The tasteful crispness of it. Oh, my god. It even has seamlessly integrated advertising.

ZeeBee

Oh hell yeah! I've been hoping there'd be an episode about this freak

Baily McDaniel

Leto's acting skills would fit well in telenovelas, k-dramas, Indian soaps etc. and literally nowhere else

dominic

Good morning everyone! Have a beautiful day

Leonardo DiCaprizoliano

I almost don’t want to listen right away. I want to savor the flavor. Pause.

bobore

Twenty sixth

rutjake

my brain did the like football kickoff crowd noise thing when i saw this episode announcement come through. fizzled with anticipation when i saw "jared leto," then literally pumped my arms in the air when i saw "matt." haven't even hit play yet lol.

bobore

Hasan Poker

Noah

Fassbinder should’ve had it that year

landon

leto’s best performance is in american psycho when he fucking dies.

Noah

Hasan stinks

Mungo Franczak

I’m just glad 12YaS won best picture. There were so many shitty movies (DBC, Gravity, Wolf of Wall Street) that definitely would’ve won any other year

Cal

Need a Russell Brand episode somewhere down the road. That dude is on one lol

trainenjoyer22

ok but liz’s “put my eyes in” is a boomerism i’ve always said too

Rodigan

Man like Matt. Big up innit! Gregg's! Tesco bag on my head when it rains here in jolly ole England

Max Budynek

flirty sex....ums too far?

AL

Big boy Brian Length over here

Jack

2:19:35 for Jared Leto, you know this ep is gonna be crazy

Peanut Horse

I think brace could get through to him

Daniel Ponciano Diaz

Anyone reading this please watch jarred letto getting interviewed by a v-tuber. The dead look in his eyes is the funniest thing ever.

Max

More episodes for the girls

Natalie

Ummm I think he's rich enough to buy deodorant

Alex

I’m at the TrueAnon. I’m at the Ghost Stories For The End Of The World. I’m at the combination TrueAnon/Ghost Stories For The End Of The World.

Hank

Have a listen to the QAA two parter about him. Grim stuff but it has some good laughs to keep you from getting bummed out

Morgan

You spelled mars wrong while calling other people stupid… but also 30 seconds to mars is ass

Max

That’s so funny, he was not expecting that interview seemingly and thought Fubuki was some kind of children’s entertainer.

ploob

OOOOOH!! Matt's not dead!

Kyle Smyth

I have no proof but it wouldn't surprise me if Leto was connecting these women to other figures in hollywood (studio execs, producers, etc). Just opening the door and putting them in same room type thing. It would explain why he's constantly gotten big roles despite his movies all being terrible

Mungo Franczak

My friends and I are in agreement with Matt. The reasons why Leto is so good in American Psycho and Blade Runner 2049 is A: he’s playing himself, not doing his dumbass method acting shit and B: he’s not the main character. I think his best role is Niander Wallace. “A child can count to 9 on two hands, we should own the STARS!” is absolutely some shit Leto would say during a cult meeting

FA

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure 30 Seconds is way more popular outside of the US and Europe, specifically in South America, and that might be a part of the reason why they seem so successful on paper despite not having any cultural impact here.

Cal

Don’t mentioned that name around true anoners they’ll crucify you

havva

MATT!!!! I am playing the episode immediately

rotten sun

when I was a 18, 19 year old punk living in SF I felt like I was constantly hearing about this through art school friends-of-friends in a way that felt as culturally pervasive as the “Marilyn Manson had his rib removed” story did in middle school (obviously more believable in case that needs to be said)

CE

Watched that interview with Leto where he talks about his LA county Cold War surveillance station compound and noticed that he and 2025 Tom Cruise have the same voice and speaking mannerisms. They both do this thing where they speak too low in their register, and pause all the time so it sounds like they are really measuring their words, but then say the most vapid bullshit you’ve ever heard, vapid even for a celebrity. They look and sound hypnotized or like they are repeating lines fed to them through an earpiece.

FA

Also, as a whiteboy who was a teenager in the early 2010s, The Kill was INESCAPABLE

The wazzzzaaapp bud light dude

Autocorrect is ass and “uhh, ironic, you sir are actually what accuse others of” are are even more subhuman than Jared Leto fans.

Not a Doctor

This is an enormous hell yeah, glad to see Matt back on

Sean Riach

Jared Leto tried to get someone fired at a cafe I used to work in because they drew a crude toilet wall penis onto his vegan cheesecake with strawberry sauce

Mango Bolsonaro

Leto is kind of just the American Russell Brand tbh

Keanu

Jared Leto is in 30 Seconds to Mars??? Learn something stupid every day.

Louise O'Toole

lol Brace spent last evening with him 🤣

Lukeivy

I also had no clue the guy that wrote the room did requiem for a dream

Barry Nixon

Dawg I was a big fan when I was a kid and just being on like 30STM forums felt like some grooming shit and their music videos too— I’m glad I never went to one of their concerts cause I would have def been his type 💀

Kevin

I’m tha Joker baby!

CS

Nobody likes jared Lego and everyone named jared is a pedophile

Orcplow

I feel that that Skandinavian band Ghost is like what 30 Seconds To Mars SHOULD sound like if Jared Leto had talent.

Dave K

I always thought 30 Seconds to Mars was an obvious reference to the Disneyland ride (which I think is gone now)

brodie

30 seconds to mars was the soundtrack to so many call of duty quickscope montages. It's really the perfect music for that

eza

Evan

I would say a surprising amount of your audience is familiar with the hit song “the kill” due to it being featured in Guitar Hero 3 legends of rock

Brian Ward

You have to remember he has zero knowledge of pop culture within a certain time period for a variety of reasons

fioe06 t

Coworker just said: "if I lose 100 times, I'm not gonna lose 101 times." THE PLAYER ALWAYS WINS

Doug Cartel

30 Seconds to Bruno Mars

Blank

Brace I think you’d be a great actor/in another life would have been a theater kid

NYCM&AHole

The band at my wedding was not permitted to play Bruno Mars songs, even if requested. All requests were banned.

Chas Padunski

Leto’s cousin taught cinema and English at my high school in the aughts. He deeply, deeply admired the guy, which, as best I can tell, has led to some mental health issues. His vampiric aura saps more and more fully than we even imagine.

Barry Nixon

They were really on that “this music saved my life”/ “music is my religion/ tumblr train and had a very intimate relationship with their fans. the music has this worship-y aspect to it that makes it feel a lot more reverent than it actually is. And pair that with like heavy use of symbology and references in their music videos. My middle school ass was like yeah this hot man is my god I guess

Quinn

Jared Leto is unironically the modern Charles Manson. He just haven’t ordered his followers to kill anybody yet.

Heisenber3D

I think there's a bunch of people who know 'The Kill.'

Heisenber3D

Heart reaction, but also - extremely alarming realization - this is bad and makes complete future sense

elizabethonline

Thirty secs to mars is definitionally coworker music. The genre’s platonic ideal

Heisenber3D

I'm only 70 mins. in and I cannot wait until (if) they talk about the multiple album covers of um the album 'America.'

Heisenber3D

yes! that used to be fun.

Tammy

NO FUCKING WAY! ❤️❤️❤️ too many 🐐’s. 30 seconds to bars

.

When brace mentioned yall were wanting to do a Jared Leto ep awhile ago I was hoping yall would get Matt on to do it. Everyone I know hates Jared Leto and he’s spooky as fuck.

Tim O'

My dad (born 1956) says it all the time 🫡

Paramount Paint Company

Brace mentioned Pete Ubu in an episode a while back - who I had heard of but never checked out . Modern Dance ! ❤️

Tammy

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Paramount Paint Company

I went and gave it a listen and made it 30 seconds . Is that him singing ?

helvetica.hottie

Also, he was 21 when My So Called Life was on. Claire Danes was FOURTEEN. He apparently "taught her" how to do the romantic scenes in the show. Ick.

Doug Cartel

Like the War Nerd version of the Iliad might say: Jared Leto was a sissy because he let his dick think for him

Gabby S

Yeah that’s the only song of theirs I know because it was on Guitar Hero

Quinn

It’s not like a direct 1-to-1. But on a base observation the similarities are funky and a bit uncanny.

bakedpotatocat

The only thirty seconds to Mars song I have ever heard is because it was used as the opening theme to Sword Art Online Abridged (I think it's called Brave New World)

Gerp

30 seconds to mars most popular song on spotify is incorporated in a very famous call of duty quick scope edit. I think a lot of their listeners come from short form content

Gabby S

I googled “Jared Leto critters” and all that came up was him wearing a fursuit at the Met Gala

Sarah Stinard-Kiel

Shout out to Goat! I can confirm they are a fun and good band

Rahsaan

Listening to the local alt rock radio station in the early 2000s after they'd been bought by Clearchannel, this band had two or three songs played constantly

user4857392

Disappointed not to hear Liz say “fake-o” at least once this ep

K H

Liz podcasting when it's storming is so cozy 😌 Boyz we're gettin cozy. If someone needs glasses, they can't consent to getting wit them without their glasses on because they are legally mentally disabled without them. 30" to Mars is the Morbius of music. People kept hyping it, then you listen and you're like...??? this sucks wtf? Except that was before irony ops.

D. Elwood

my grandma also says she "puts her eyes in" when she's got contacts, so can cosign Liz being old

D. Elwood

Also, Bury Me was in a Guitar Hero game so I've heard it quite a few times, lol

Standing the Gaff

"Muddy Banks of the Mississippi" - he's trying to reference Cobain and Nirvana's posthumous live album, From The Muddy Banks of the Wishkah. I remember all the middle school girls swooning over Leto as a grunge rock heartbroken when My So-Called Life was on air. Great episode!

Egg B

I couldn’t tell you a single 30 Seconds to Mars song, nor could I tell you anything about Rita Ora. Hmmmmm

NYCM&AHole

My future(? Guess not I was married by the reception) brother in law gave them $100 to play drake and they took the money and never played it.

Gerard Antoine

His parties sound a lot like drake parties

Brian Gonnella

"She Hates Me" only worked because 80% of it is a Suicidal Tendencies song

bob

Jared Leto and 30 Seconds to Mars are suburban middle class culture’s versions of a rock star and rock band. Somehow both insanely popular but entirely culturally irrelevant. Mass market products for the sake of mindless consumption

bob

Do you remember when he got married to Katy Perry and was telling the press that they were planning to do every sex position from the Kama Sutra on their honeymoon?

K H

For the gay honeymoon.

Lexi Featherston

Wow I was just suggested a tiktok from Cara Santana, a nothing person who is married to Shannon Leto and is now embracing tour wife life. They are pushing this band from every angle!!!

Axo

How the hell do you spend so much money on a band advertising and I could swear up and down that I've never heard of them? Were people actually buying these records or is there a cia guarded cave full of 30 seconds to mars merch sitting next to piles and piles of american cheese?

Lars

30 Seconds to Lars is my porn name 😔

vermouth

This couldn't wait until after an Epstein update..?

Rufus Blumpfoch

Matt is the best guest on True Anon. Every ep with him is a classico

Vincent

Brace, what do you think of Queens of the Stone Age? I feel like you could very easily say something about them that would really upset me.

Ronin Fredricson

I liked 30 Seconds To Mars a lot between ~12-16 and I still have a soft spot for some of the music but I remember already at 12 or 13 thinking Jared Leto seemed... very annoying. Like I absolutely did not want to hear his thoughts or feelings about anything.

J98

What is the intended image of this band? It seems so soulless. Looking at the merchandise there is what I can only read as ironic? A day to remember crabcore graphics, fake metallic, linking park rip off? It seems postmodern in an unserious way, but then there is the claim he is hyperserious. What's going on here? Eyebrow scrunch?

siobhan

finally someone said it

Ronin Fredricson

I feel like if you're a beautiful white man with dark hair and baby blue eyes you're 500% more likely to become a monster than the general population.

buttface

We deserve a little celeb gossip episode as a treat

Jack

Who's another evil Jared TrueAnon can do a 2+ hour podcast on?

.

And echoing the sentiments of this ep why the fuck would their song be on a pre teen game titled “guitar hero 3 LEGENDS OF ROCK”

HarkonnenScum

GHOST MAN AND TRUE ANON IS DREAM TEAM

Sera

For a different part of his life the (unfortunately non-canonical) infancy gospel of thomas has kid jesus straight up killing people who piss him off

Gator lord

Only reason I know about ‘30 seconds to mars’ is because the music video for “the kill” was part of the preloaded content on the zune mp3 player (released in 2006). Hated it then, still hate it now.

mimi

finally some real news

Cal

LMAO sounds on Brand for him

Nick

Nobody is listening to this band guys. It’s just Spotify ghosts bot clicks

Ashley Naftule

If you loved Modern Dance, you gotta check out Ubu's Dub Housing- an incredible record

MitchyWitchy

WHY DID YOU TRAP YOUNG CHOMSKY IN A FISH BOWL!?!?

justdave

Maaan, women never come over to my lab

Jameson .

Liz love island episode pls pls pls

Ligma

There needs to be a wreckoning with the 2000s Myspace/Warped Tour cultural era. Creeps like Leto were a dime a dozen in that scene

mimi

my former flatmate from Tajikistan loved Imagine Dragons she said everyone there does... think about it... maybe Tajikistan is the 30 Seconds to Mars epicenter

Big Problem

Mr. Jared Leto we the Jury have found YOU 🫵 guilty of the crime of Woman Tricking with your obnoxious pretentious art boy act and we are sentencing YOU 🫵 to 15 years of walking around Times Square in just a bunch of really noisy bells and a sandwich board that says “Don’t give me your daughter’s number”

Lojban Chauvinist

Wait wait, that song actually rocks. With context

Kat

One more evil Jared bites the dust

Sam Lieberman

I obsessed with 30 seconds to mars and listened to The Kill on repeat when I was 10. Decent chance their insane sales numbers still come from children

Joyous.Pakistan

They should have followed him. This Ep is kinda losing me with the dumb and circular “their music sucks!!” yapping. Like obviously we already knew that

Zane

God, I knew Porno for Pyros would somehow come up

Big Problem

Also it will never stop being funny to me even after almost a decade after the film came out that Jared Leto felt that the Suicide Squad Joker is such an important and nuanced character that it requires the whole method acting rigamarole. Any non-idiot reading that script can come to the conclusion that that role is very one dimensional and that dimension can be best summarized as “bad boyfriend” which obviously for someone like him doesn’t require method.

Brian Ward

The lord took my hair so this wouldn't happen to me

Ant koz

Brace I would wager that if you presented those lyrics you read to 100 average Americans, over 50% would say it’s Shakespeare, and over 90% would say it’s the greatest poem they’ve ever heard.. in the same way that Morrison was the poet of a generation the boomers deserved, Leto is the man for our current culture, especially post sell out. Also I had sex with him and the experience was very average… allegedly

nikki

i feel like jared leto is tom sandoval’s wario

Urdnot Wrex

i would pay VIP membership level money to have Brace cook Chinese food for me

Seeking Treatment

I can't handle living under this corny ass american celebrity dynasty

sir peepus

ty for censoring puddle of mudd YC

Kendrickryan

Thank god for seeing this I was like 15 and feel mildly embarrassed haha

Sam Lieberman

At least as of 14 years ago people really definitely were. Me and a bunch of my friends were constantly listening to them when we were 10-11

FairIsleMonch

On the Passion of The Christ stuff. The (first) QAA pod on Jim Caviezel (or whatever his name is) is legitimately the funniest single pod I’ve ever listened to. (No offence True Anon, you’re still my fave and my only Patreon subscription xxx). People should look that QAA ep out though, it’s one of the free ones)

Therealkatina

Via a good friend at the time: Back in 2005 after a 30 Seconds to Mars show in Winnipeg, two friends of a friend were approached by Jared Leto. He asked their age and they replied “14”. He said “that’s legal in Canada, right?” (it was as the time), as he linked arms with them and iirc led them to his band mates. There wasn’t anything else to the story so I assume they had to get into their parents’ waiting cars.

woolen goat

the sweet life of jack and cody

SlamPig

"Lights Cameras Liz" should be a custom neon sign thats in the recording studio. It should look like those neon sign in those over decorated restaurants that sell those awful fancy American $10 tacos.

d

he is prob friends w chris d'elia... who also messaged me when i was 16 😖 gross loser city

Therealkatina

At the time, My So Called Life was being rerun on Much so Canadians were maybe a little more susceptible to Jared Leto than our American counterparts

Joelio

If you haven’t had your hackles up about Leto since day one, I’m worried about your freak-radar

Zach

Totally, heard it ten thousand times. Along with like Serj Tankian and The Dresden Dolls

Special Adeline

I got my bosom sucked and my rump handled at Morbius

Special Adeline

I figured I would never see the guy again but now hes my best friends coworker but thats on me for trying that in a small town

Special Adeline

Im sorry for saying this in a public comments by the way idk if it's sickening or wrong to put that kind of thing out there but I thought maybe some people might find it funny and it might brighten their mood. I hope I dont ruin anyones mood with it by seriously sickening them

Fedsmoker333

It’s Brazil. The nation of Brazil . A lot of the discussion about a secret world with millions of 30 seconds to mars fans can easily be explained if you understand that the people of Brazil are corny as hell and there are a ton of them.

Fedsmoker333

Same goes for Italy and the Foo Fighters

D

Favorite Letoism is Cocaine Ukraine from Lord of War, what's yours?

Gator lord

Also can you guys do an ep on whatever is going on with Amanda bynes? Bless her heart

D

I say this about my contacts too and I'm 112 years old, so Liz is absolutely right in this situation

not reflective (vampire)

Brazil kept many bands afloat off the top of my head: Rush (live in rio) and Iron Maiden

Gerp

Truuuuuuu

Chas Padunski

Btw Brace is off in one spot. James Gunn was at or hosted the party Ghost Boy mentioned. I know because pics of the same event led to the cancellation of Jimmy Urine, frontman of Mindless Self Indulgence. Gunn is in those pics.

Dennis

Negative aura points for Villeneauve in that quote lol

Mungo Franczak

I remember seeing 30 Seconds to Mars open for Linkin Park back in 2014 (I was 14) and my dad leaned over to me and yelled “THAT GUY IS GONNA BE THE NEW JOKER!”

Demented Avenger

First music video filmed in China? Is that even a thing? Plus, going all Gen X, does anyone else remember the "Freedom" video?

Brigid Bowser

I knew Liz would should out the hills at the mention of Brent bolthouse 👏🏾

Matt Jolo

It's morbing time

Brandon Lucero

I’ll be honest I know the song the kill because it was in like cod trick shot videos.

Kommi Koo

There exists an interview between jared leto and a japanese anime girl as promotion for morbius. Fubuki jared leto interview on YouTube.

Shiv

Ive been WAITING FOR THIS

snorlax

If you don’t listen to GOAT y’all are missing the fuck out, that band rips

Will

Have they ever done a deep dive into Kushner?

Rory Blank

I only realized from listening to Brace reading 30 Seconds to Mars lyrics that I have heard that song a few times, mostly in situations like being at a state fair or a skating rink, and had no idea what it was.

Glenn Youngkin Did Nine Eleven

1:05:49 Sorry brace, but hatebreed is the best band. I know theyre not government warningcore, but come on, hating them is so 2010.

TGW

Brace & Liz- I gotta send you guys an email. What’s the addy?

John Lemieux

The Killers catching strays in this ep

Casey

A lot of Leto's longevity I think is staying at a certain level of fame where he was staying just below most people's radar. Jim Davis has talked about how he did that with Garfield, making sure the character was only exposed enough to make maximum money but not enough to create a backlash. Call it the "Garfield Effect." Garfield is also CIA.

Michael

The sweet life of Jack and Cody

DarylBarenziah

Charlie Manson, Jeffrey Epstein, Brother Love, Jared Leto, all pimps for the ruling class, this is just the tip of the penis

DarylBarenziah

The real sex pest joker would be the “You can’t stop me Batmannnn I’ve alreadddy sucked every single cock in Gotham city.”

Jim Veil

Too bad James Gunn didn't have the same perspective on his buddy from Mindless Self Indulgence, who was also into young girls (allegedly).

Krista Sion

I remember first being aware of 30 Seconds to Mars because they had the treadmill video that it seemed like everyone was losing their minds over. Then as an Evanescence-obsessed goth teenager saw that Jared Leto presented some awards show with Amy Lee. Did not put together that he had anything to do with that band until very recently

K H

I think she just has schizophrenia.

Krista Sion

Okay I actually looked it up and apparently that video was NOT 30 Seconds to Mars lol

burkina fatso

you wouldn’t lie in an interview would you, CEO Rachel Jake?

K H

Encyclopedic knowledge of age of consent laws globally.

K H

Many teens all over the world fuck with Imagine Dragons. Mostly teen girls, because boys know music is gay.

cyberbasque

In the eighth grade I went to a concert for this band and stood in the rain waiting for “The Kill”

Ryan

speaking of brace's wikipedia names, the moderators pulled a 1984 level supression of information a while back by saying his pseudonyms need to be """published""" in a """reputable source"""

Rory Blank

I met a girl when I was in high school who claimed to have broken Jared Leto’s nose by jumping on him while he was in the audience at a show. I don’t know whether she personally did or not, but he did definitely break his nose at a show in the city I lived in(El Paso), a few months before this girl told me that she’d been the one who’d done it.

Axel H.

I can confirm I’ve known about Thirty Seconds to Mars since I was a kid (and am quite familiar with “The Kill”) and I didn’t know it had anything to do with Jared Leto until today 😮

Trees

Did Damon albarn invent nft’s?

saaffie

Finally!!!

Chapo Bath House

Jared Leto hit on my cousin when 30 Seconds To Mars played a show at University of Manitoba in the early 2000s. She called him Jordan Catalano and he called her a slut and got her kicked out of the bar

AK

I didn’t know how much I needed this

bobore

What's wrong, Liz? You're swoooting

Joseph V.

I am only aware of 30 seconds to mars' music because of 'The Kill' which me and my friends reference as short hand for overly edgy and poor taste things. That came from a random video from 2020 where the song was used in a COD montage video. So yeah very stupid stuff that we only know about because of how stupid and shallow it is.

Leanders

Yall gotta listen to the QAA episode with Dave from Dollop discussing Jim Caviezel, actual insane person and he does pretend to speak languages and thinks he’s Jesus

Mungo Bovie

not enough conversations about this

m

30 seconds to mars is one of those bands that you find out is still going like triple platinum in mexico

Alexander Johnson

I'm surprised "Mr. Nobody" didn't come up during the discussion of his film career, since that's what I know him from best aside from "American Psycho." It's a dumb-guy's-first-smart-movie in the way that "The Stranger" is for books. It's a classic trippy guy/wook movie. Fun related story: when I was in college a guy in my dorm building was tripping on some weird RC (or that was the story) and tried to publicly castrate himself with a shard of glass from a fire extinguisher case he smashed. While the police were holding him down on the grass outside the dorm he just kept screaming at the top of his lungs "Watch Mr. Nobody! Watch Mr. Nobody!" So apparently Leto's films have the side-effect of making young tripping men try to auto-castrate.

m

also my fave true anon eps are def these one-offs about freak pervs. i would put this up there with the johnny depp ep for callers request for “girlfriend episodes”

Simone Meltesen

Was it Edo Salon? Also got a bad haircut there like 18 years ago

Daniel Bryan

The Killers are nowhere near Imagine Dragons level

Nathan Bebo

I'm glad I caught the 2001 ozzfest with Slayer, Priest and Sabbath. 2002 sounds less entertaining.

D

🎵 They're gonna put me in the movies 🎵 They're gonna make a big star out of me 🎵 We'll make a film about a donkey boy that's schlumpy 🎵 And all I gotta do is act naturally

Dixie normus

Seeking derangements mention hahahaha brace go on one of their gay list episodes!!!

Max

He’s such a dork ass loser I hate him

Shiv

based dad

Trixie

Trying to imagine Jared Leto's band and all I can see it Tom Sandoval's band

ronnylongjohns

My bartender friend had the pleasure of kicking the Puddle Of Mudd singer out of his bar

Matt Jolo

Only reason I know the kill is because of the bury me bury me that plays in the backgrouns of in the library of letourneau northern lion YouTube short in which Northern Lion gets a perfect shot in fortnight or some shit.

ERIC

The music is for teens in broken and/or unloving households. Many a college friend of divorced parents was inspired or said something about not killing them self because of the songs. Idk if your parents don't introduce you to real music you end up like industry shit more often than not.

drizzly_november

Wasn't the guy who shot Gabby Giffords a Jared?

Eli Jennings

Suspicious that they hasn’t brought up the Epstein list what could they be hiding 🤔

Amanda Lopez

Brace, I actually don’t know how had never heard of 30 Second to Mars. I’m 34 and they were totally a thing in middle school and early high school in the emo and circles. Our local rock station probably still plays it.

Krissy Simard

Can't believe I missed your story asking about Jared Leto encounters lol but I remember 30 seconds to mars came to Montreal I don't remember what year it was but he hit on a friend of mine and got her number and tried to have her and a friend come back to their tour bus and she never did. She was like 16?? And a few years later the band came back to town and he texted her again lol

alec_irl

not to make it about VPR but Tom Sandoval WISHES he was Jared Leto, right down to the bizarrely pretentious vanity rock band

Zach Fontenot

I highly recommend looking up the interview with former members of the band of Montreal about their encounter with 30 Seconds to Mars at a music festival

Hampton

Long time listener but immediately subbed once I heard Matt’s voice in the trailer. Love Ghost Stories for the End of the World

Ana

As a Las Vegas native, I would just like to formally apologize for Panic at the Disco, the Killers, and Imagine Dragons. All the good musicians here get jobs on the Strip or move to L.A. (back when you could still afford to do that at least), so that just leaves losers like them. The real question is why the rest of America likes our castoffs so much.

Daniel

Nobody ever mentions Dallas Buyer's Club when talking about Leto's acting career, strange considering its the one role he got the most critical acclaim for

.

Matt literally did in this episode and that he was good in it. And what did Jared do for his Oscar speech? Pro regime change op for western capital. https://youtu.be/UM0B0SiCS_g “Anarcho-NATOist” This is pink washing at its finest with him playing a transgender woman dying from HIV.

LB

Cahal

Wtf was that ny post article from 2005 was pedophilia legal back then what the actual fuck we need to bring back public beatings

Jonathan Kennedy

Shannon Leto being in that weird supergroup feels like it confirms the industry plant notion because wasn’t Orgy also an industry plant? (Pretty sure Murder Bryan talks about that in a P.O.D Kast episode.)

Brooke

Pretty sure Will Smith hates him: “Jared went full Joker. The rule, generally, is never go full Joker, but he really set the tone. He wasn’t playing with it, he was dead serious. As an actor, he was going in… he really jarred [us],”

Gabe

This is Trueanon operating at the peak of their powers.

Sheep

Brace seemingly just discovered Anthony Fantano

Ana

Why would you want to be a Jared Leto fangirl when you could be a Josh Groban fangirl instead. Like, who would you rather have inside you: some greasy washed-up method actor or a true American Chanteur? IDK if I'm sleeping with a celebrity, I'd want him to be the one slumming it, not me.

James Moore

Imagine listening to Satisfaction and not loving it fr

Degrassi Knoll

wall of death here we come wall of death just for fun wall of death LOCK ARMS AND RUN

Ana

Formula One is the most vile crap. Vegas people put up with a lot of shit, but that first F1 was too much.

Ana

They're both Mormon af tho.

MKatieUltra

My Jared Leto story was at Coachella 2012, I was by myself, eating fish tacos and far back on the lawn watching Gotye. I heard a guy talking to his friends but didn't look up. He was saying "Justice is starting soon" and someone else said "no they're not till 8." He said "no I hear them let's go." Then these kids told me "that was the guy from 30 Seconds to Mars, he just took a photo of you" and I say "you mean the guy from My So Called Life" wtffffff. I found his Instagram from that year and he didn't post me but had lots of photos like that 🙃🙃

Pelican Grief

As someone who works in McLean, VA (👀 at myself) I must say it's not just in the same county as Langley, it's the lux bedroom community sidled up right next to the damn place. Most everyone here is a spook or spook adjacent.

Gordon Schmidt

I grew up in McLean VA, and I remember there was an article in my middle school's paper about Jared Leto being an alumn and later visiting the school. At the time it was like "oh cool!" but now..... yeah

Gordon Schmidt

Grew up there and this is pretty much true, although there are a lot of immigrants to balance out the spooks (and a lot of the immigrants are spooks or spook-adjacent!). McLean itself is just up Dolley Madison from the actual CIA headquarters, I remember I had to deliver there a couple times when I worked at a restaurant. Hopefully your job is at least more rewarding!

Harold

I'm also from that place btw.

Harold

Yeah if he said TikTok maybe not but he said YT. He probably watches Citronella.

Mol

I have a friend who was an assistant to Leto post his Oscar win for Dallas Buyers Club and apparently he brought his Oscar around with him everywhere. Like he would just carry it around in his bag and set it out while he had a meal. But according to her he accidentally lost / misplaced it after some time

Sam Regan

If’s actually kinda badass

Michael S. Judge

This really gets a 30-50% boost if you know how long Matt has been driving himself insane about Who Jared Is

c8ln

They really don’t owe you anything Evan baby

Michael S. Judge

lol there's some guy right now carrying a mattress from the Havenhurst to the Ojai screaming "WHO THE FUCK WANT JARED LETO'S OSCAR"

MCL

The killers are truly evil

Lulu

As someone living in Northern Virginia - absolutely clocked the same when McClean was mentioned. It wouldn't be unusual at all in the area. I don't even think that's a conspiracy theory, more of a probability tbh.

MCL

I have this hypothesis that humans are a kind of pack animal, and every once in a while, a human bellwether is spawned- maybe like one every 10 million people, and the government would definitely try to create one of these charisma freaks to keep people in check but they keep making Jared Letos and Jojo Siwas who are like the clones in Alien:Resurrection who beg for death.

drizzly_november

Really appreciated Yung Chomsky not adding any 30 Seconds to Mars needle drops. I’ve made it 32 years without ever hearing a second of their music and don’t intend to start now.

EaZy E

Damn. Thats crazy.

Ian :3

I had no idea that was the “bury me, bury me” song lmao

B

i have been fascinated by Leto glad to hear from Matt as well here also brace was very nice on the live format with his Turkic and Dominican Brother this week

Brendan Kneeland

“Some of yall should be acting as Gallahad” Norm Macdonald would’ve been proud

Alexander Johnson

Imagine Dragons never produced a song near as wonderful as "All These Things That I've Done".

Mood Slut

Single, not on the apps, no crush no roster, night in on a full moon in sweats snuggling with a cat listening to a True Anon celeb truther ep, manifesting abundance while I’m living it

Houthi & the Blowfish

I wonder what the six degrees of separation is with Mr Leto and the general public.. I have a friend who gave him a BJ many many years ago at a party in New York. We are all connected thru Jesus Jared

JeffD

He said, "Can you hear me, are you sleeping?" She said, "Will you rape me now?" He said, "Leave the politics to mad men" She said, "I believe your lies" He said, "There's a paradise beneath me" She said, "Am I supposed to bleed?" He said, "You'd better pray to Jesus" She said, "I don’t believe in God" -Buddha for Mary 30 Seconds to Mars

Agent Grange

Real ones know exactly what Brace means when he mumbled "I actually know a story about The Killers" under his breath.

Michael S. Judge

I don't know if Leto, or whoever's writing this shit, would know enough to do this on purpose, but you've got Argos/Argus as mentioned, the many-eyed giant who provides perpetual security for Hera, and "Apocryphex" would be a sloppy kind of portmanteau for "he [or that] which makes apocrypha," i.e., the guy who creates fake background stories. So a combination of panoptic surveillance and the strategic creation of false personal history, well ...

Lulu

Jared Leto and regime change go together like peanut butter and jelly - I'm always saying it.

Connemara McDonough

I’ve been giggling every time he starts to lose his shit. Hope this was cathartic for him - he deserves it.

grymm

Enlighten us fake ones please.

Agent Grange

I'm having a really difficult time finding it now, but in some other episode Brace talks about when he was a crustpunk teenager he got smuggled into a hotel party for The Killers with a group of young women (possibly teenagers) who were invited before Brace eventually got thrown out. Please for the love of God if someone can find this clip and correct the record, do so.

C

I saw Jared Leto walking around at FYF fest like a decade ago in the middle of the day in 100 degree weather in full head to toe all black Rick Owens. He was wearing geobaskets it looked completely ridiculous. I think he’s like 5’7” I was towering over him. I’ve never had anywhere to share this bizarre experience.

C

Why is this man obsessed with being very hot, like temperature wise.

Sin Nombre

tried listening to 30 seconds to mars out of curiosity after hearing this episode and Briz (Brace and Liz. Pronounced like "Bris") weren't kidding they are FUCKING AWFUL.

Mood Slut

I went to a Goat gig in 2016 or something and it was amazing for 2 songs but after that I had to walk out

mimi

no I'm pretty sure it's just Tajikistan

Dame

When I worked at the post office one of the clerks who wore foghat and Steve vai shirts when he didn’t have to wear the clerk shirt told me he saw a wall of death at a 30STM show in Milwaukee

Degrassi Knoll

12:00 Liz explains to Brace that twins are two different people...... TA has the uncanny ability to tell a disgusting story and crack me the fuck up

Doc Adna

This reminds me of that Seinfeld ep about Kramer and his Tony

taejo-pom

Why does he get away with it?? He has a horrifically enormous d**k plz see Alexis Arquette’s infamous description. Leto definitely sleeps with (powerful) men and I guess the harassing teen girls is more a power trip / beard situation than anything else.

eduard karpoev

Method acting as Jesus is just Theosis

wailing ken jennings

"we will have a light and funny episode" right before a classic Brace rant. What classic Brace. Wow Jared Leto makes you angry.

Antipaganda

Piker? I haven't even met 'er!

Antipaganda

He rapes but he networks.

Antipaganda

A horrifying statistic: the average age of gamers is 37.

Antipaganda

Don't you bring that curse to Brace's door, Satan

Antipaganda

They could bring back Virgil Texas just to interview him

Antipaganda

Ooo, yes, I second this, disappoint us Brace

A

ChatGPT: make me a song that sounds like the formulaic anthemic harmonies of Imagine Dragons playing what they imagine The Mars Volta sounds like (especially in the transitions and drum fills) but is produced by a hi-fi rock guy from like 1997 exclusively for BMG club members - oh, and be sure the lead singer is a known rapist.

Hot Rod

The logo talk is perfect bc it both references the rune logos to Led Zeppelin IV and the Hillary 2016 logo. Banal evil.

liv

I think it’s in the Elliot smith episode but I’m pretty sure he’s told the story at least like twice lol

AB

THERE IS NO LIST WHY DO YOU THINK THERES A LIST

Hot Rod

GDI I will not be able to shake “his jizz tasted like Jamba Juice.” Thanks TA

Grant M

Brace independently pitching Teenjus at the end

FeloniousUnc

I’m surprised that I haven’t heard him called “Jared Peto,” as I’ve heard he was a creeper for awhile now. The Wiki entry has like two sentences mentioning allegations, which is fucked

syd

Liz is the second podcast host I've heard tell a story about a friend being hit on by Jared Leto, the first was Hesse Deni from Seeking Derangements but Hesse and her friend were like 14

Maura Willey

Wait I actually have a creepy jared leto story lmao feeling seen and valid rn

Andrew

Being Annoying as a cover would be funny.

Andrew

I for one will look for it! I always liked that band even though the schtick got a little old and I doubt I could tolerate being in a room with Kevin Barnes for more than ten minutes.

kaicycle

you're telling me New Tang Dynasty Television isn't a reputable source??

Alex

There needs to be a class action suit. Anyone with a DM from Leto should be eligible for at least a $200+ harassment payout. He is a menace.

Amelia Robert

Panic at the disco catching a lot of strays this episode 😆😆😆

syd

idk why I thought that wouldn't come up in the episode lol

John Swan

I’ve always said: Jared Leto should play Rasputin in a biopic about him.

John Swan

My patreon pfp has never felt more relevant.

Julian Gricksch

30 sec on Mars was big in Germany. A lot of my metalhead friends in the 2010's would admit to sometimes listening to them. And as much as Leto sucks, I gotta admit that I think "The Kill" is a pretty good song

Tea for the Tillerman

Drove by urth caffe the other day and it was still slammed like season 1 entourage. This despite the proliferation of Obama-era third wave coffee shops, we’re truly living in Bush’s third term

Your Mum

Actual sacrilege to confuse ok go with 30stm

Tooffixer

Mom’s gonna freak

Dick Waglin

Hes a lizard person. Wake up sheeple!

Aaron

I did listen a bit to 30 Seconds to Mars in middle school (around 2010), exclusively on the bus to my b-team basketball games (to get amped up)

Dennis

Please do this, Brace, Liz & YC, I need to hear y’all at least share a word or two with Jacques 💀

DH

This was very cathartic as someone with a mom who loves Jared Leto for some reason

syd

Just mentioned Jared Leto at work and my coworker told me he hit on her when she met him when she was 16 are you kidding me

thickmoranis

Yall should do a whole episode on the cast of That 70’s Show

Dixie normus

A Brace and Jacques conversation aka the definition of immovable object meeting unstoppable force I would like to see it

syd

Like 15 years ago

Angel Reed

Skinny JD Vance with eye makeup - - - fuckin died laughing at this comment. ~30min mark~

Logan

Just here to say that during his Oscar’s acceptance speech in 2014, Jared Leto did a shout out for “all the dreamers” in “the Ukraine” and Venezuela lol. I remember watching it live, and he had this deer-in-the-headlights look, like he couldn’t remember his lines. Also worth noting that he won an Oscar for playing an HIV positive trans woman… oh, Hollywood.

Alex Herter

thanks for this, that guy sucks never understood why this band was ever a thing

Lezli

I went to YouTube to laugh at a song and one of the latest videos was them live in Kazakhstan....

Carter Moon

30 Seconds to Mars is what I call “Uber music”, you think there’s no one on earth who listens to this and then you get in an Uber and the driver clearly listens to nothing but 30 Seconds to Mars all day. Same thing happens with Imagine Dragons. Doesn’t matter if the driver is a Persian dad in his late 50s or a single mom in Long Island, they’re keeping these bands’ streaming numbers through the roof.

Virus

I know The Kill only from that famous mw2 edit

Gato gris

2049 was awesome..

Ben

Love the Pynchon comp

Amelia

“It’s as if the CIA couldn’t even get it up anymore” jskjsk

CE

True and yet somehow funk carioca is music’s bleeding edge.

lzrdkng

Suite Life of Jack and Cody

Michael Ouderkirk

If you are an adult man who plays music for an exclusively teen girl audience you deserve extra scrutiny

Nick

Hesse from Seeking Derangements also has a story about one of her friends getting invited to Jared Leto’s hotel room when they were in high school.

Greg Bosley

my ex used to tell a story about him hitting on her and her friend when they were teenagers working at an airport in CO. 1 in 6 might be a conservative estimate for how many teenage girls this creep has bothered

rj

thinking about robert pattinson saying that no one ever method acts as just a nice guy

Natalie

drew monson once said: "panic at the disco is fun and then you turn 16 and realize the guys singing voice sounds like the richest, snobbiest kid at school telling you the story of how he bought his $400 jeans"

Michael Ouderkirk

It's so funny that playing a musician led to Leto becoming a musician in real life, just like Jennifer Lopez

Natalie

Briz is pronounced Bris

Ty Dewey

Ai concert ad on the top of their page is throwing me. And no one in the insta comments says anything 🥹

J HUTCH

Its Morbing Time

Natalie

Welcome to the partayyyy

Francis Mahlie

Great content with Hasan, Brace...flaming on Hasan at every chance was great but that moment when you straddled the fire hydrant got me good 😂.

Quinn Redman

Fav part of this episode is hearing how Norther British people pronounce American names/businesses

Logan Jones

The cultural footprint of 30 seconds to mars is that MLG edit video with the Kill

Richard Cochnar

I was in college when 30 Seconds to Mars was taking off. Heard them on the radio. Never heard a single real person ever mention them once. No one cared!

Jared Wiese

Thanasis Antetokounmpo mentioned 😱🦌

Quinn Redman

Sweet life of Jack and Cody bruh cmon

Sara Z.

It makes sense that they’re big in germany. Not going to elaborate too much

Chapo Bath House

I also think he's funnier when he gets bored and starts lying in interviews? Like, I believe in the sincerity of his boredom?

Kevin C

Anarcho NATOlist is a banger descriptor

Existentially Spun

My friend went to Coachella when she was in high school (back in 2010/2011) and Jared Leto was hitting on her friend and trying to get her number…

Ari

Hearing that Jared Leto moved to McLean, Virginia makes so much sense. I was dating a guy who was the lead singer of a pop punk band in Northern Virginia and he got personalized hate mail in like 2010 from Leto after they both played Warped Tour (cursed sentence)

Kyle O’Connor

lol someone commented before they finished the episode! naughty naughty

big man

Troy Van Leeuwen had yet to join Queens of the Stone Age when The Wondergirls formed, get you facts straight.

K H

Zack and Brody*

K H

I heard he got pissed off about some dude being taller than him on stage.

K H

Stack and Modhi

K H

Jaque n a Fody

Ari

Sounds about right. This pop punk ex was also part of the State Department’s “American Music Abroad” program and got sent to the Middle East for months to play music that would make people like America or something. Very spook-y 😂

sister love

oh man how i love a good trueanon classico on a friday night 🤍

K H

He was up his ass when asked about that roll too. He thinks he's the greatest actor in history.

K H

Did...did you win?

K H

You know what...yes. BUT I still like them.

K H

Sack and Codpiece

K H

Tell us!

K H

Jamba has really fallen off

K H

Maybe he "likes em young" because they're more terrified of his adult penis. Like yea, everyone will say you have a big a penis when they're like 13 years old.

K H

They are pretty similar.

K H

I remember him talking about that.

K H

Jamba wasn't open ig

K H

Is Chomp mad you got him sick?

harpy

did jared leto get surgery and enhancements to his penis, or is it just like that? it doesn't seem right

johnwaynesmom

They have terrible taste in music

G

This attention seeking motherfucker climbed the Empire State Building

Michael S. Judge

"TA my dude. Watch his highlight tape." – Jeff Teague

Ronin Fredricson

After The Dark Knight and Heath's death it very much felt like they were trying to portray The Joker as this Cursed Role, trying to get it into the same league as the Hollywood Spooky Lore urban legends of horror movie sets that were supposedly haunted and like "Did you know that during the filming of this mummy movie they used a real egyptian artefact and then everyone who worked on it died." Like if you play the joker in a movie and try to tap into his twisted psyche it's gonna destroy your brain because he's too crazy and evil so you're taking a huge risk because you might die or become a psychotic murderer.

Michael Ouderkirk

That part about the supergroup Shannon Leto was in was crazy. Early 2000s was full of supergroups, remember. All the big 90s bands had broken up or were in extended hiatus. You had Audioslave with Chris Cornell and the non-Zach RATM guys, Velvet Revolver with all the guys Axl fired from GNR and Scott Weiland. Gorillaz even were kind of part of that. Its something that only happens at the bust end of a boom. Napster spooked 'em.

Mood Slut

Yes please. I feel like T70S is a whole assed tangled universe of fuckery, like the show itself is a front for the disgusting activities of the disgusting people involved

Kenz

My homegirl slept with him in Boulder in 2016 or 2017. They met at the Dead and Company show on campus. He’s sent odd texts over the years since.

Garret Miller

This is way more information than I ever wanted to know about Jared Leto and his shitty band. I legitimately had to stop 3/4 of the way through because I heard the name 30 Seconds to Mars, too many times and I was just making me sick to my stomach. By the way, I’m driving right now.

Chapo Bath House

As much as I hate Imagine Dragons, I have to give them props for their support of Palestine. Everyone expects a Billy Bragg or Thom Yorke (lmao) to show solidarity, but for a bunch of Mormons who make music exclusively for exurban dental hygienists, that shows real growth and has the potential to actually change minds. Also, against my better judgement, they have a song that sucks but has a rap feature I kind of like.

PineBat Jo

he strikes me as someone who wants to be like the phoenix bothers but is too artificial to actually pull it off. 100% a cia industry plant

PineBat Jo

meanwhile the best depiction of the joker is the one from the campy ass 60’s? show.

A Loon

Did anyone else think: oh yeah, like Bono

Rxk Lenderman

I thought I had never heard a 30 Seconds to Mars song until Brace read out lyrics and I realized it’s the song from that one MW2 edit

Axel H.

“Tiptoe” is a good song, and I’ll stand by that. That was the first song of theirs I ever heard, and it remains the only one I like, but still.

Macarena Espinosa

I used to listen to 30 seconds to mars A LOT when I was like 13, when I also thought that the jonas brothers were the greatest band in the world. Last year 30 seconds to mars came to Lollapalooza Chile and was one of the headliners, the crowd was gigantic. I was that friend who was like "no, I don't want to stay to listen to them. Did you know that he is a creep? Let me tell you..."

the empty suit

I realized that there is only 1 Thirty Seconds to Mars song I could even remember, but when I tried looking for it on Spotify, for some reason, I couldn't find it because when I went to their 'albums' I wasn't finding the 'tiger' album I remembered when I pirated an MP3 of it in middle school, so I was almost thinking "did I mistake them for Two Door Cinema Club again?" but then I found the This is War album... and I still couldn't even remember that the song I remembered was the titular "This is War" and then INSTANTLY I knew why I was listening to this in 2009... and it was becasue I was a prolific anime AMV editor as a tween. This song was requested a lot by Naruto fans.

Alexandria

That detail I found really strange and dark ... More info needed there

Gaige Kaser

My father is a very absent minded individual, he doesn’t have any politics, he doesn’t have any opinions, he like drinking and watching tv. He is the biggest/only 30 seconds to mars fan I’ve met.

Chapo Bath House

It's fascinating because people will say that there is a hollowness or inautheticity to actors that let them be good at their jobs, yet he proves that true hollowness will at best produce mediocrity

Chapo Bath House

Matt was on fire here. anarcho NATO and the RATM to Limp Bizkit jokers got me

Zac

Where the guy wouldn't even shave his mustache for the role, just painted over it

Cory

After listening to this band that I never heard before I can sadly say I would have liked them in high school. It triggered that feeling. Luckily I am too old and was into stuff like bright eyes and evanescence. BRB I have to go listen to the song Konstantine.

Hot Rod

“Secret popular band that nobody I know I likes” is really interesting bc that’s how stock-trading normies would have felt hearing about any underground/indie/punk band that their interns were into. Or if my FiL was forced to read “please kill me” or “this band could be your life.” Just a pure Blue meth simulacrum of neoliberal-era authenticity.

Max Fennig

*ala Heath Ledger Joker* “Let’s put a bead in that ass!”

Randy Hendrickson

"overwrought" "theatrical" drug mystique, frequent prevarication, outright fabrication, and sudo governmental organization involvement? Careful Brace. Thou protesteth too much.

ALD510

lol. I was like Aw man. He’s got a lab also.

Jacob

I used to be an uber driver and I had a passenger who claimed their mother was the inspiration for "she hates me" and he doesnt know who his dad is but assumes it's Wes Scantlin. Puddle of Mudd is a local band to me so I have reason to believe the story is true

Irene

Today years old when I realized jay leno and Jared Leto are not the same person

sungawd

Pretty clear all three of you want to fuck him.

Alexandria

Don't bring TDCC into this

Stephanie Shiver

https://www.givesendgo.com/supportdfwprotestors My wife has been taken political prisoner of the Trump regime for protests in opposition to ICE. All protesters involved have been given bail set at 10 million dollars on the state level, and pending federal charges that will almost certainly keep them locked away for years. I don’t know what happened, but these charges are absolutely insane and we need legal support desperately. Please consider donating or sharing, thank you so much, I love the show I’ve been a patron for awhile now and I really hope we can get some support.

Natalie

If you guys have a hankering to unlock some episodes any time soon, I tried to link someone to Naughty List and Midtown Martini today (given recent transpirings) and I think ppl could gain something from those rn hehe. Obviously it's your guys research and work, and I'm not sure the typical process for that, but they're def relevant!

Natalie

That green gentleman is a forever hit to me

the empty suit

I definitely listened to TDCC and Phoenix and M83, DyE, etc. as a tween/teen and the first couple of Imagine Dragons EPs but, to this day, I think “This is War” is still the only Thirty Seconds to Mars song I’ve ever actually heard. And it’s specifically because Naruto fans on YouTube and DeviantArt wanted me to make some edits to that song… LOLLL

Marisa

Never apologize for making it about VPR

Philipdelphia

Hot Take: I’m about the same age as Brave and 30 Seconds to Mars were pretty well known when I was in high school. Heavy rotation on the last gasps of music videos on MTV and Fuse

nina

if u just want to share an ep u can download the audio file via patreon i think!

Si

Shame on Liz and Brace - I feel that Ghost-Boy Matt deserves at least some props and promotion at the end of the episode, instead of just a silent send off without thank you, goodbye or promotion for his truly amazing work. Everybody check out Matts "Ghost Stories for the End of the World"! He goes real deep in his stuff - sometimes with some fun production sometimes with in-depth research of really awfully dark shit. He is the right place if you eg. want a proper deep dive into stories like the Octopus (Trueanon had only a single episode on that huge rabbit hole). Hollywood Ghost Stories or organized crime (from The Mafias history in Book of Wars, to the US American Casino series). But most of all check out his Euro Noir series for some insights into the real heart of darkness over here. (From political shit like the Olaf Palme murder, to the craziness of the Brabant Killer case, to the ultimate darkest of dark stories on child murderer and predator Victor Dutroux. What you get with Mat are some proper capturing and haunting deep dives (instead of some silliness and one off episodes). He might have to take his time for uploads, but his shit is worth every penny spent and every minute of waiting for the next episode or project. ps.. and the music he uses is always top notch as well

SF

I do remember “the kill” but it never registered to me who it was, and I tried to see if I recognize any other 30 Seconds To Mars songs on Spotify…no luck. And I’m 35, like they would have been around during my teen years. They don’t actually exist.

vermouth

I pay them???

Natalie

Oh rly...it was for a random on Facebook so idk if I would just link my google drive or something but people are still going cuckoo saying TRUMPS ON THE LIST like there's a list at all. And their relationship is still obscured it feels

K H

TrueAnon, can you verify if this is real?

Jake

The kill is probably the one song I’ve heard by them because that song was completely unavoidable

Free Palestine 🇵🇸🔻

Used to watch Naruto AMVs of The Kill in middle school. Spoke to me deeply. I was in special ed for twelve years

Jaime Christley

He made up a story - on the spot? - about taking his stalker out on a date and when she realized how boring he was she quit stalking him. Patz may just be one of the great bullshitters of all time

Homalek

Ozzfest was one of the first rock fests I went to I was like 10 it was cool. I went on to play trombone after that which as you know is extremely cool.

Anigmaus

Agreed, they had a big moment at my high school for their 2005 album

Cameron Young

Thanasis catching shots here. Haven’t the bucks been through enough Liz?

Sam de Waele

Some of the best Liz noises in recent memory

BJÖRN

Why does it cut off on 1:58?

Barry

"It's like the CIA can't get it up anymore" 😭 Also I'd pay 10 Iraqi Dinar for Brace to make me an Aeropress coffee.

Liz Gee

30 seconds to mars are kind of giving Low Shoulder from Jennifer's body

Sam de Waele

Regretfully: I would also act really annoying if I had an Oscar

Laynie

What the actual fuck

Nite Life Jesse

Lotta VERY funny bands were there, but 100% they were NOT on the bill for Ozzfest 2002 or any year 2001-2004, preteen me would have seen them. They weren’t the right flavor of silly for Ozzfest early 00s

Tea for the Tillerman

This all gives me Black Crowes “Amorica” album cover with the bush vibes

TS Nancy Boy

I had a coworker about 7 or 8 years ago who was in her early mid 40s and spent all her money on anything Jared Leto, she used to go his weird cult/island camp thing every year. She had a massive poster of him and her together in those white outfits in her office. She talked about him like God. it was bizarre.

Molly Magdelena

just came into work after listening to this and the last thing that was playing on the spotify was the kill … how odd

autumn

Opus (2025) is what Leto hoped Camp Mars would be

James Mutch

hi guys my girlfriend really likes trueanon but doesn't know how to use technology, would you be open to doing a cassette run of a couple classic episodes? especially the scandoval one. thanks

A

the absolute most bewildering thing in this episode is how guys have to hammer the point of 30stm being incredibly popular as if theyre completely out of the loop on it. it sounds to me genuinely like a bit as someone who grew up in p much a target demo country for them. leto visited my hometown and ate blini 5 mins away from my home. apparently the girls he hung out with for that stop got some wild stories

Glo-Lo

I was listening to this at the gym a few days ago. Currently my gym is playing a thirty seconds to mars song 💀

Homalek

I think the band pisses me off because alternative (loosely applied) dudes either are in a band to actually be in a band or they are in one to get girls numbers and it’s clear which of those is true with Leto.

Olivia

The Kill was really important to me when I was 9 years old riding my razor scooter around and listening to my ipod shuffle.

Olivia

second mention of 30stm naruto edits

Vee

reverse method is 'typecast'

Petrorenminbi

Ok all the superhero movies are bad but let’s not act like the Sony marvel movies are the same caliber as the Disney marvel movies. The Disney movies have what you might consider, uhhh, a plot

Alexandria

They're all really bad my guy

Alexandria

Yeah I've known of them their whole existence but never been a fan. I'm a pop culture nut though so I'm not exactly an "every man" but everyone I know knows of them at least. I remember when they won their first Grammy(s) and one of my friends was like wow I didn't know JL was in a real band

Alexandria

Was she hot? No reason just wondering....a lot of their fans seem to have a similar look

K

the only question is if he's an enshittification epstein or an enshittification diddy.... oh wait thats jayZ

Matthew Steidle

What was the name of the tech company Leto was tied to that had a mild Epstein association??

Ellis Roper

I had a ton of fun with my family watching Madam Web and clowning on it. Haven’t had that much fun watching Disney Marvel

Tony Chudomelka

30 Seconds to Mars is HUGE in the American Midwest.

Ant koz

Less than two weeks removed from this episode dropping in the immediate aftermath of credible sexual assault allegations, I’m laying here laughing at how unbelievably dogshit Leto is as joker In the unbelievably dogshit suicide squad… decided to do a quick google search of Jared Leto, and guess what? Nothing in the first three pages of news about him mentions the allegations! Again, that story dropped on July 10, today is July 18th, and that shit is entirely buried… he is protected from up high, no doubt about it…

SippyCup

Hannibal Buress is guilty of some of this behavior. I'm not very social or cool these days, so why do I know of two girls (at least of age) he has creeped on? Just a thought.

SippyCup

i need doggie fuckers on vinyl

Alexandria

I've heard this as well!!

Jc

I would watch thirty seconds to mars videos on YouTube on my iPod touch in like 2009. Alongside blue October and my chemical romance. Their work aims to speak deeply to emo 9-14 year olds imo

big man

Elaborate

big man

Real ones know Porno for Pyros from their appearance on The Larry Sanders Show

Wagner Koop

This is what I came here to say lol. Half-joking but it feels indicative of them living in one big costal city and moving to another.

Shan

My ex-stepsister was (is?) a Gen X 30 Seconds to Mars super fan. Like she and her husband would follow them on tour. She’s usually unemployed and he installs koi ponds.

Wagner Koop

How was Gotye? Forever regretting that I missed him touring the states around then.

MKatieUltra

I wasn't familiar with him at the time but I think good! I later saw him at Northerly Island in Chicago and all the younger ppl left after he did Somebody I Used to Know 🤪 but I enjoyed the entire thing. He played all the animations fans had made on the big screen which was a nice touch.

the empty suit

a second mention of Naruto AMVs has hit the towers

Dr. No No No

You underestimate the suburban listening audience of 30 seconds to mars during the early 2000s

Wagner Koop

1:04:57 Julien-K mentioned, totally insane

Michelle C

Wow this ep made me realize that all this time I thought 30 seconds to Mars was Jason Schwartzman's band that did the OC theme song lmao

Normica

I listened to half this episode picturing Jay Leno, right up until this guy was described as having a Christ look. I can’t get the false image of Leno dating an Olsen Twin and method acting as The Joker out of my head.

Lara Sea

“$500 for a sleep in braces bed contest??” WHO SAID THAT 👀 🔊 ‼️ ⛔️

jengatoads

You’re telling me Jared Leto sang the modern warfare quick scope montage song?

Alexandria

Omg no that's Phantom Planet! And his brother was in Rooney if you remember that one

evilcheeba

Yeah, they were definitely not an Ozzfest-type band. I definitely could see them play Warped Tour, however.

cinchal

not everyone can be the target for a youth color revolution

A

a rare privilege to live and tell the tale indeed

bolsh

Episode is 1/3 about the Allegations (this is the interesting part), 1/3 "This pop music sucks but it's still popular. That's crazy man", and 1/3 "there's just one thing left: the clues" style hypothesizing.

Ella West

Brace I DM’d you on IG about this but I too know someone who (allegedly) had a sexual relationship with Jordan Catalano when she was underage. She was a model working in NYC at the time. She was 16, he was mid-30s. He would randomly sext her for years afterward and she always went backstage when his shitty band played in Denver.

Mildred

When I saw this episode go up my first thought was that I didn't know who Jared Leto was. I recognized the face and name but could not tell you why. I would have guessed he was either a musician or actor (??) but could not have named a single song or film associated with him. I just knew he had an unsavoury vibe. This is the same relationship I currently have with Roblox.

Lou

High-key subscribed to the Patreon for this. His finest performance is getting his face turned into burger in Fight Club

Lou

Kirkland Johnny Depp

leninparty

i read 'Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon' a couple months ago, didn't make the connection until this episode that Leto lives in/bought the same Lookout Mountain AFB I was reading about. yelled 'fuck off' really loud in the shower. had to go outside for a while

Reece Coren

with a sense of poiseeeeeee

shmoneymaker

i’m a certified leto hater but the kill is fire asf, one of the sickest cod montages ever to that song

Arslan Sheikh

Had to come back to this episode after Tron: Ares unsurprisingly tanked at the box office

Alexander Russell

I can’t believe there’s anyone on earth who has NOT heard The Kill. It’s fucking everywhere.

MatXVX

As a bolivian, but particularly a long time Jared Leto hater, i can't believe i missed the "SOSBolivia" and this MFer connection Thanks for rekindling the fire of this hate, love your stuff and greetings from Santa Cruz de la Sierra!