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We talk to war reporter and investigative journalist Seth Harp about his new book, The Fort Bragg Cartel: Drug Trafficking and Murder in the Special Forces. The conversation took place on 8/13 at the Bell House in beautiful Gowanus, Brooklyn.

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Wawaweewa

Loving this book tour for Seth, all of the pods I’ve heard with him talking about this book are fantastic

Jes

Reading the book right now! Can't put it down. This shit is fuuuuuucked up

Joe D’grinda

bruh i thought y’all weren’t gonna record the shows? i guess it’s feeding time

Pete

How fucking cool to post this like the day after. Trueanon forever

ckoehler31

This is perfect for me as an illiterate

ploob

Yeah! Hope he gets a 💰

Swimaroo

What is [LIVE] may never DEI

rizzler

sorry for scaring everyone by coming in really late and dropping my phone and keys during the pregnant silence approximately around when y’all were talking about people theoretically coming after seth. i see how that could’ve been kind of alarming

Jahron (angy yeet)

Fuck yeah I bought the book and saw Seth on Democracy Now the other day it was awesome!

fried egg

my biggest fear is listening to this recording and hearing myself being yelled at by a security guard mid show. i was INNOCENT

rizzler

GET BEHIND THE ORANGE LINE!!!! IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NOT A DEFENSE

fried egg

girl…. the guy with the camo cargo pants was ON ONE

Jeremy Hinen

Oh man ditto to this — that guy was tweaking on something and was rocking back and forth whenever he wasn’t twitching and frantically peering over his shoulder.

Pete

Radio war nerd was great

fioe06 t

The Beloved Brace Belden

FT-Jan

you guys were at the show you’re listening to? no spoilers!

rizzler

no spoilers. just facts and logic. don’t like it? log off. FACT: your mother. what about her? well, let’s just say brace fucked her

lilsharky

Mr Harp, where is my copy? The mailman says should have arrived yesterday, but it's today and still no sign.

rizzler

he told me the above at the show afterwards btw . my source? saw it in a dream

Joe D’grinda

I demand low quality shakey cell phone videos of all four shows. Like it was smuggled from North Korea

rizzler

just so you know this is because of Woke .

AI gore

Quality information.

Swimaroo

It rises harder, better, faster, stronger

Reed

My king brace and Liz who is also my queen but strangely looks like my ex gf that I fumbled

buttface

Liz is the smartest and funniest podcaster in the game. She is a treasure.

rizzler

29 bitch. whose Winning now huh ? truemom hosts pls notice me .

JDF

The book rocks LF YC BB rock Seth Harp rocks HANDS OFF MILOŠEVIĆ

rizzler

funny ,, i was just thinking this too. who are you and what have you done with my brain ?

buttface

great minds thonk alike

rizzler

also jokes aside can we talk about why, in parallel to the peaking of afghan heroin production, did the us research chem market get absolutely and utterly flooded with extremely cheap fentalogues? why do yall suppose was it possible, structurally, to buy like 10 million doses of acetylfentanyl for what a used car used to cost? this gotta be one of the more conspicuous instances of there being a ‘there’ there in recent times

rizzler

nice typo lmao. first time using a keyboard? lmfao

rizzler

i saw hamilton morris on the subway once so maybe i could connect you . also really sorry for blowing the comment section up i had two zyns in when the live dropped

Tenshi's half-eaten corndog

I really appreciate how much Seth Harp looks like Clark Kent while also being a reporter.

Scooby Doo

The posting equivalent of calling your teacher mom

Jabroni Ludd

seth’s book and Matthew Cole’s Code Over Country about the navy side of JSOC (devgru/seal team 6) definitely make a compelling argument for an ascendent praetorianism. JSOC is absolutely the military within the military and is the model for ICE/DHS/Bortac expansion.

notme

LAUGH TRACK CONFIRMED. CIA STAGED EVENT

Blank

There was something strange but also sweet in after many years seeing the imagined community of TA listeners in the flesh filling up a venue, on a day with torrential downpours no less. Learned a lot, laughed a lot, and even had a brief sighting of the elusive YC. Much love

Doug Cartel

There may not be books about Delta but there are video games and a movie with Larry the Cable Guy

Glenn Youngkin Did Nine Eleven

A guy i was in navy boot camp with had a brother in marsoc (force recon marines) who took a shore duty job as the corpsman at our A school. Guy hated partying with the seals because they “always brought fucking heroin” lmaoooo

Susan Beal

Yes that’s Antioch College. I went there. Dave’s sister Felicia was there when I was.

Joshua Garcia

I used to want to be a seal. They wanted me to laser off my knuckle tats to join the navy. I decline and here I am. Good choice.

Brian Long

The Activity is wild

peter_mcc

casually discussed the book & its subject matter to a woman at a bar this week who asked me about it; she then started crying & yelling at me about her cousin or nephew or whatever who’s in the special forces & how it saved his life. after this i hope he winds up with a scrap of dignity at the end of the day bc boofing speedballs is a hell of an end result for being shredded alive by the demands of The Hegemon™️. great talk great book great bootleg live ep.

Shiv

RIP 🥲

Shiv

u rizzled em

GoyBulletStopper

Just got the book yesterday, I've only just started it but so far so good

rizzler

happens all the time with me 😔

GoyBulletStopper

I tried to enlist at like 18 because I was homeless, dropped out in 9th grade and had no direction. Luckily the recruiter said I had to wrap up a bunch of my minor criminal court cases and get my GED and I said fuck all that.

Kespos

as if I don’t ALWAYS listen to the show with my shirt off

sulkyboy

*doesnt read a comment voice* the fidelity on this ep is great!

Katy Gruenbaum

Thank you so much Seth and thank you Liz and Brace for letting this be shared I am so happy to hear the real lies heard 😘 we need so much more of this! And we need reparations!!!

Reed

Gonna have to get the book

Han

so excited to read the book, my dad is intrigued as well now since I got him to order it for me

LET ME DELETE MY ACCOUNT YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES

A high 3 or 4 day roadtrip out of their minds across some desert killing people. They are spree killers, but they dont off themselves or get taken down by the cops at the end, they go home and take more drugs. David McGowan-esque.

Louis Wilkins

I saw two moon faced American kids in trump hats here today. In New Zealand. They looked a bit confused about why everyone was looking at them like they were coated in dog shit. I’ve never wanted to cause a scene more in my life but I was with my daughter and I refuse to embarrass my kids in public any more than my mere existence already does. Fucken trumpite scum. Fuck off to your own hell hole country you cunts.

Alex Gullen

Uuhm, but, eerrh, what is like going on with Brace?

K H

Has nothing really to do with the episode, but there is an anime movie called Sword of the Stranger where a ronin fights a bunch of assassin drug fiends. It's sick as fuck. Also get a gun. Learn to print with CF nylon. Learn about drones. It's fun. These psychos like it. Like what they like. Learn to have fun. Then have fun.

Houthi & the Blowfish

No books, but they did make a movie called "Delta Farce" with Larry the Cable Guy. Maybe you've heard of it?

saaffie

I'm sure the gouvernement drugs them up too. I remember about 20 years ago I met a USSR assassin. He was Lithuanian and had been a black belt in judo as a kid. He was in the military and he would be drugged up and dropped in Afghanistan with a knife to go and kill targets. 20 years later he was suffering from ptsd of it all.

K H

Why would they buy $10,000 worth of phones directly from the factory in cash? Is that less conspicuous than just buying a bunch of phones from different retailers at random? They just didn't want to deal with the service reps? Does anyone have any ideas on this besides it splits the difference between army bulk purchasing and the appearance of OPSEC™️ ?

K H

Good episode. Good guest.

Brian

I wouldn't be surprised if the lab leak theory was a psyop, if JSOC was spreading that there was pork in china's vaccine

Joshua Garcia

Saved by choices we made. Too much trouble to undo them. One of the fellas at the place showed me his lasered off knuckle tatts. All scars. I’d probably be dead by now if I did that. My head gets quickly sad, so that was probably a bad idea. They wouldn’t want me due to my mind. I get weepy at things. Those recruiters know how to talk to youngins. You like KMFDM too? Me too buddy! Let’s do navy.

Antipaganda

Get out of the Shire you orc cunts

mckinley faas

Ik this isn't the point here but im totally ok with these folks getting killed and killing each other

Egg B

Can’t wait to get this book!

Clean Shirt Piggie

Fort Roland L. Bragg renamed in February 2025 from Fort Liberty

Lulu

Would love to listen to this book on Audible but don't see it there 🫥. Side note- I usually find live episodes of shows annoying but this was not. Great sound quality and audience. Kudos.

Harry

this book rocks

rizzler

i was sent there by the cia to do things to brace (seth and liz can go free. this was a revenge op for brace seducing a cia agents partner when he was in syria) but he seduced me instead :/

rizzler

“ascendant prateorianism” is an extremely cogent and urgently necessary frame for what JSOC is and all its spawn have become. it’s gonna get so much worse

Nikola Biliš

Am I the only one thinking Liz overuses (or possibly misuses) Alice in wonderland / through the looking glass metaphore? No hate, I love everybody.

Ess Dee

Our guy was just interviewed on Tucker Carlson. He’s made the big leagues

Chapo Bath House

Terrifying name for secret military intelligence. Corny name for a dog shit Blumhouse horror flick

buttface

You edited it coward

b2b saas purveyor

lived in NC & while heroin was always around, in '03 it became strong, cheap, & ubiquitous seemingly overnight, and ODs & deaths ensued in short order, thanks a fucking bunch dubya 🫡. Fayetteville is indeed rough af - locals call it 'Fayettenam'

Compost

"greeting" is the Scottish Scots word for crying, which feels v apropos.

joancutesac

It's sort of the guiding metaphor of the show, so

Sarah S

It is there. I got it two days ago

Lulu

Weird I can't see it must be just my Audible account - I could have sworn I pre-ordered it too! Thanks for letting me know.

Training Data

Saw him ask someone to put his elbow down bc the elbow breeched the invisible line of the pathway

Rufus Blumpfoch

Thank you guys so much for releasing this. It's such an ugly but expansive topic that is pretty core to what I think this podcast is really about. Great interview.

Austin Williams

hypothetically it would be neat if in the future there were important similarities in the wikipedia pages of Fort Bragg and Dresden

Austin Williams

we read the hot new book and we just keep vibing in hell

Austin Williams

the literality of "saved his life" aside, it's better to be dead than murderous scum, no? maybe my heart has gotten small but I can't extend empathy to such a person.

rizzler

? now ur making false accusations because you can’t handle facts and logic?

gurit

Seth meeting Brace in Syria is so crazy. Imagine walking into that situation and then coming face to face with “Da Gay Pussy Eata.” Surreal.

Roland Thompson

Wuhan lab leak was likely the psyop, shit leaked from Fort Detrick in summer 2019.

Louis Wilkins

Best guess, the phones are not listed on any commercial database now. They aren’t linked to any wholesaler or retailer, there’s no record of them anywhere. You pick it up with a guy you capture in say, Pakistan and all it can tell you is who manufactures it. Sort of the same reason cross border special forces in Vietnam often used Swedish and other esoteric firearms - everyone knew who they were the point was if they got captured there was nothing on them that was undeniably an American issued weapon. Plausible deniability doesn’t mean your story has to convince anyone, just that the available evidence doesnt directly contradict it.

K H

Interesting.

Big Problem

Insects like them deserve to be squashed 👍

Muni D1

i checked out the TC interview (sorry) with Seth Harp and just gasped at the answer Seth gave at 59:46. the greatest media malfeasance in our lifetime.

Chapo Bath House

Huff is an inherently funny name but especially for a drug trafficker

Baby J

Adderall is a racemic mix of dextroamphetamine and levoamphetamine. Dexedrine is just dextroamphetamine.

Joshua Baker

TrueAnon at its finest. Excellent EP! Can’t wait to read and great follow up to previous eps! Would also like to hear more about what JSOC ops re unfolding across boarder in Mexico! Gracias 🙏🏽

peter_mcc

she tried to get me bought in on some sob story about how a guy who died during their pointlessly grueling training is now like the unit mascot & they ‘do it all for him’ & i’m like damn that’s crazy that we have training exercises where people die more or less on purpose & that was the point she tried to get me thrown out of the bar. i’m too gay to not have learned the lesson that interacting with belligerent drunk white women never ends well but alas.

Matelda

Maybe I'm crazy for thinking that Billy comes across sympathetically in the first two chapters about his murder of Mark. And I'm torn between thinking it's hard to comprehend a life as extreme as 14+ years in a secret death squad, and yet noticing how common this story is in American prisons. To anyone who can entertain this sympathy I want you to know that it describes exactly how many violent crimes in the US happen, and who many average convicted murderers & felons really are: people who lost control of their lives in an underworld of drugs and trauma. In that sense there are far more Billy Lavignes (minus the career benefit of impunity) in prison than Ted Bundys. I dunno what else to say about it but obviously not a coincidence that crime and poverty in the imperial core track so closely with the fallout of imperial war.

Colin Helpio

I've got his book! 😊 And I'd like to submit a friendly request into whether Shane Tamura's real target was indeed a Blackstone CEO and not the NFL angle that's been so widespread.

Colin Helpio

Not doubting you, but what makes you think so?

Kylo

Why y'all prefacing so much at the top this shit was normal as fuck, the audio was great. I fucks with the live ep format fr

Quinn

Friendly request seconded!

Boggs

A $50 tear-drop microphone would capture ambient audience audio. We’ve definitely given them enough to cover that.

Jessica S

I assume they gotten shit from people in the past about it, but what don’t people give shit over lol

Jessica S

Whenever I read/listen to Seth talk about Fort Bragg. I can’t help but think of timing of Michael Hastings’ death and his reporting on JSOC. 🫣 Here’s hoping these specific groups of cretins are a less competent lot, lol. At the very least, maybe use public transit for awhile. 😆

TrueAnonPod

No it's cause I personally don't like podcast live episodes

CE

If true Ryan Grim must have handlers in JSOC/CIA. Dudes been boosting Wuhan lab leak reporting for years…

K H

Why would you want to hear the chud audience?

Quasimoto Miyamoto

Brace is much smarter and more knowledgeable than me but hearing him pronounce “Hmong” was pretty funny

James Phipps

The idea the military calls them “Night Raids” and they’re exactly the same tactics & purpose of post Civil War “Night Rides” (before theater kids created the KKK) is terrifying on more tiers than there are operators.

Breakaway

I was surprised to learn there’s a cell phone factory in California

PrinceVocalFry

I finished the book this weekend and I couldn't stop turning back to look at the mugshot of William Levigne and feeling a deep sadness and compassion for him. I was from exactly the same background and shared many of the traits of these guys (in fact, an in-law of mine just join the Dboys). If I hadn't found punk or read a newspaper and alt press, this would have been such an obvious path for someone who wanted to "make a difference" and had some kind of drive. They join up as kids and they dont really know that its all a racket. These guys are told they're doing the right thing by everyone - every where I've seen my operator friend, even liberals are waiting fawningly to ask him about his expertise. And like many people, they don't find out until their 30s how much their ambition and good intention have been used by the worst actors. Billy, Mark, Tim could have been doing so many wonderful things for this country, but instead they dealt drugs and killed people. I pray for them and their families. They didn't deserve to live and die that way

Salex

Thanks Baby J, I take Dexies for my ADHD and I’m always trying to remember what mix Adderall is. Never sticks in my head

Peyton Brock

Not this live show, but semi-related because the most hostile I've ever had a security guard be to me for no reason was some lady guard checking bags at the door of TrueAnon's LA live show for the Year of the Smile. She was looking in my purse and then started freaking out about how I was trying to "pull away from her" and that I must be trying to hide something in my purse. I was so confused because I wasn't doing anything, nor had anything in my purse to hide. She just got all hostile on me out of nowhere like a cop who's looking for a reason to fuck your shit up. Maybe it's because I'm trans, idk that's just a theory. As someone who's worked a fair bit around/with security guards, they always seem to be either super chill-type people or on-edge psycho wanna-be cops, no in between.

Tea for the Tillerman

What do we think the ICE stack is? My guess is less big pharma more gas station horny goat weed, beer, ivermectin

grymm

Mountain Dew and Slim Jims

Deanna Turcotte

That was really a fantastic interview. Great sound quality as well thank you! This strange new phenomenon of ppl laughing at inappropriate times makes me so mad though. Glad to hear it being called out here bc it felt like I was going crazy out there.

Muni D1

also, halfway through the book. great read.

Behold 666

This was fantastic. And terrifying.

B

F3EAD feels like an eldritch spell, knowledge that dooms your soul the early Seth harp eps were Classico this full circle moment is great. Thanks for everything folx ❤️

Nathan

I’d be interested in hearing Seth’s speculation about what the Trump admins plan to use special forces against the cartels looks like.

Lcfitz

Poor MARSOC not even a mention with tier 2 😂😂

Muni D1

TC = Tucker Carlson, ashamed to say. After the first hour, it got kinda stupid, but Seth made the point of the decade right before then (at 59:46).

Lcfitz

Hegseth is such a poseur

T DoubleYa

lol did I hear Noah Kulwin laugh at 1:23:00??

OutofBeerRage

Any way to get this book in Ireland in the next year?

Ethan Christensen

JSUC was my first Trueanon episode! Got hip to you guys from an Andrew Callaghan interview and have been hooked ever since. 4 years, Where does the time go

cmanenarwhale

these mf flexin ab they body counts like cotton hill

XXXXXXXL FAILSON

For the longest time I thought JSOC was code for a sock you use to jack off into

Sarah S

I read the transcript because I cannot listen to Tucker

Sarah S

Is Seth a lab leak guy? I’m listening to the audiobook and when he explained Covid as leaking from a lab in China I have to say it was surprising

El Cat

I think this answers a lot of questions I’ve had about why the CIA seemingly accepted defunding and security breeches by the Trump admin. I kept thinking “what would Dulles have done in this situation?” But it was a rhetorical question because we all know he would have JFK’d Trump’s fat orange ass. Don’t get me wrong here, I’m not a CIA fan and I truly hope Dulles is burning somewhere for all eternity along with Kissinger. If I’m understanding this interview right, the CIA is largely defanged and many of those dirty deeds the CIA did have been reassigned to these special operations military groups that are more under executive power and less a rogue fiefdom like Dulles’ CIA. Is that correct?

JDF

Bubbles’ sponsor Waylon with the epigraph credit tells me that what follows will annihilate the reader—but also that there is hope, even the barest glimmer of hope, in the deepest darkness. 🐍🥃🇻🇳

pizzapope

yoo i think u may b right

Brian

Because China is obviously the biggest threat to US' global power and hegemony. So it would obviously rally the US public to hate China more than they already do

Rachel

Thank you. Brilliant ep. Great work. We are so fucked. 🤦🏻‍♀️. Bought the book. Thank you. 🙏🏼