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Episode 485: Barak in the New York Groove (Patreon)

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2025-08-28 12:53:48
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We’re joined by Matthew Petti to talk about his new article in Reason Magazine on Epstein and Ehud Barak’s spyware. We plow through a tranche of emails and talk Russians, Thiel, Israeli spyware companies, Noam Chomsky, and much more.

UPDATE: Immediately after recording, DDoSecrets made the emails publicly available.

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Matt Jolo

YAY LIZ 3-POINT-OH

Kimble

🗣️ P.Y.C. : NO RELATION 🗣️

Andy Martinez

I'm so glad Liz was the first person to speak. I'm finally at ease

Jake Hyland

Hall of fame episode name

Dec

Brace you need to go on Seeking Derangements and outline this Bravo renaissance proposal. Please it’d be so funny

Blank

YC with the unexpected zinger

MCL

Barak in the saddle again

John Lemieux

I cough to see if I still feel

Quinn

Is Taylor Swift lesbian?

Malcolm

i had a friend who was working at the daily during michael barbaro’s bisexual awakening with a female producer it was a very chaotic time in that news room

cagey eye

thank you for recognizing the substantial demographic of gaylor TrueAnon listeners 🙏

Robin

GO BIRDS

vermouth

Brace has a crazy specific type it seems, dasha Candace Owens Taylor swift. Its like the opposite of r crumb

cagey eye

also pls do a call-in advice episode

Dyana Prewitt

Perusing through the list of Wexner Foundation alumni and it’s a pretty impressive who’s who of Israeli-American elites

!!!YEOWCH!!!

is grindr spiritually Israeli?

Nick Austin

Netanyahu dodging a bullet because he was behind a woman is so incredibly ironic considering the “human shield” propaganda 🙄

Clean Shirt Piggie

Swift & Kelce are back a week before nfl season & week after she announced next album. Marketing op continues.

JULIE

another great episode. Incredible. now for my main question: when are we going to have a 90 minute deep dive ep on skincare and hot goss LIZ? ty

Bert

Feels right

ploob

Superbowl halftime show wedding??

Doug Cartel

Liz is back, fun is over jk don't Mossad me

cagey eye

crumbl is palpably mormon

Jes

GO BIRDS

Anja Konradsson

Where can I listen to the Brace and Ashley St clair collab? 🤣

Clean Shirt Piggie

Imagining Bill Clinton and Ep welcoming Barak into the pedo club in 2003 and telling Wex to write him a fat check

Anja Konradsson

For free though, Im not giving that lady any of my hard earned money...

Doug Cartel

No yeah that sounds fun, someone does a wacky backflip onto the wedding alter and then just eats a pistol right there after saying some silly one liner

Richard Cochnar

Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce need to perish in a helicopter crash. I am sick of hearing about them. Neither of them are in any way interesting people. They really are the Royals of the US.

NYCM&AHole

The only people in finance who can write are the lawyers. It’s just a thing.

Nite Life Jesse

REASON MAGAZINE!? Hell ya, next stop Ron Paul Re(love)ution

Cal

Liz is back on the darts LMAO

Reece Coren

Liz isn’t sick. She’s just going through Jewish conversion therapy so she can cover all future Epstein news in the proper voice (I’m Jewish. I’m Jewish. I’m not antisemitic. I love Hillel. I love Josh Shapiro. Please don’t tweet about me stop antisemitism)

Steve S.

the Reason writer has the most libertarian dude voice ever

Mungo Franczak

Highly recommend ConnorEatsPants’ Fortnite Friday interview with Ashley St. Claire last week. I’ve never heard anyone so aware of their past mistakes yet so hesitant to make up for them

Return of The Mac 2nite

Burka is exceedingly rare in Pakistan. It tends to be hijab or most common a loose fitting headscarf.

Mango Bolsonaro

sus ass O9A/764 Coms Network domestic gladio episode when?

Natalie

Bro I'm like a 5 year listener I didn't even know liz used to smoke who tf knew this info - also HYPE this is out today I thought the turnaround time was crazy till I realize you guys were once again releasing eps ahead of the curve. And the ring is so big it looks like a giant bug

HonestEd

Can’t believe they missed “for sucking a penis? A succulent Chinese penis?!”

Blank

Brace idk if this is what you were thinking of, but I think ben gurion famously said about some older proposal that if he were Palestinian he wouldn’t have taken it bc they would be losing 70% or their land

Nathan Palmiero

YC finally opens up about how he's feeling and they laugh at him. Real nice guys

Natalie

This pre-interview pop star chat has me giggling so bad

Clean Shirt Piggie

I feel bad for YC learning that Uncle Noam partook at the New Mexico sex ranch

elizabethonline

Guy who’s a mod on r/gaylor and r/TrueAnon

elizabethonline

Just a little something I’ve thought up

Rory Flaherty

The rooster digression made me giggle uncontrollably

Tea for the Tillerman

Using the thing in the news people are requesting an ep on to request an ep on Bill Clinton blowing up TWA flight 800

Sydney

Liz girls we are so back

Erika

Brace women get mad when you talk about TSwift because we don’t think she has sex appeal or good taste

ectoslavia

Brace's handler was very clear about where to cut the hangout

Adam Jung

Okay am I fucking insane or is Chomsky mouth breathing into the mic the whole interview

Alex C

Always comment on people Liz, as though we've never seen them before

sne

hi liz 😁😁😁

John Lima

Google purchased Wiz for $32bn founded by "ex" unit 8200 vets. An absurd overvaluation, can only be seen as a direct infusion of cash into the IDF/Israeli govt by a private co. Nice one Google.

AbeLinkin

LIZ!! LIZ!! LIZZ!! (The last galvanizing TV moment was the Will Smith slap btw).

Desi

Liz should be meaner to Travis actually.

ploob

She is very mid

Desi

Also I genuinely think she is bisexual too LOL.

ectoslavia

Some of peter thiel's appearances remind one of Elvis Costello live performances from the late 1970s.

Chas Padunski

Uncritical support for Brace on tablet. Hundreds of dollars for a big phone/no keyboard laptop? No thanks.

Adam Jung

At least the first 10 minutes of the interview fr

Zzz

Yaayy Liz is back 👏🏼 also we are overdue for a Liz based newsletter pls and thank you

Hardcore Virgin

It does seem from just a cursory read and listen, JE liked, somewhat genuinely, to cultivate these “figures” and watch them quibble. especially got a little thrill to send EB Noam’s world image critique of Israel. But that same emotional impulse and especially in a moron like Epstein, can result in horrific cruelty. “What if I put a scorpion in a crib with a baby”. And I can totally see him doing weird degrading things to ppl on his little weird island. Also I know you guys did a Wexner episode. But I don’t remember it being much about the mafia and his ties to it. Or maybe you did. But Wexner Group paying Barak for papers tracks with mega group shenanigans

Egg B

Taylor Swift’s tastes are positively suburban. It’s a shame she got so famous because she would love going to Target every Saturday for the entire day.

Nathan

That’s psychotic to wish on celebrities that simply annoy you.

fried egg

anyone else remember when swifties sent death threats to desus & mero for saying she has a long back

Richard Cochnar

That’s the price of that type of fame, baby. I’m sure they’ll get over someone that’ll never impact their lives in any way wishing something upon them that they’ll never hear about.

Samantha Geovjian Clarke

had to go look up the engagement ring and god damn did Liz nail it talking about it looks like the girl version of a super bowl ring

Budget Hireling

We are cresting to new heights of chaotic energy.

steph

listening to an episode without Liz is like eating an egg without salt. welcome back diva <3

Joey

holy shit; @hopes_revenge mentioned

jay alan

Danger: Drug impact zone ⚠️

wet_poptart

The latinate adjective for squirrel is “sciurine”. Bibi’s visage is sciurine.

Kevin

GENTLEMEN, THIS IS DEMOCRACY MANIFEST!

Mr Worldwide

Is brace single? I can deadlift 2.5x his bodyweight, it’s an awesome party trick!

wet_poptart

This is what I get for half paying attention while not doing my job

Chapo Bath House

Idk I think a lot of people are just bi, maybe don't talk about it that much, and then have more than one public relationship in their life

Natalie

I too am waiting with bated breath for the Taylor Swift wedding dress reveal. That lady sadly has a chronic inability to serve

Natalie

Also plssss get Greta on the pod I bet she has crazy gossip

rutjake

look i know it was for the bit but i did a little fist pump when liz said "go birds"

Baby J

Emsam (selegeline) is an monoamine oxidase inhibitor used for Parkinson’s and depression. Daytrana is a Ritalin patch.

D G

Agreed. Referring to bisexuality as straight-gay/ gay-straight "switching" is so 90s. Time to woke up peeps!

D G

Eating egg! Ew.

D G

I listen intently for all YC input and am glad for every morsel.

fioe06 t

54:24 -- tell em brace

Shiv

Liz Back!

mary catherine

Yall get the vibe they all hated each other on this 1

D G

I hope so.

eduard karpoev

Someone wedding crashing the Taylor Swift wedding & Budd Dwyering would be insanely funny ngl

D G

Mid-sexual?

D G

Original Liz has been dead for years. The current version is v4.1 (I think?) of the AI which Brace & YC have been training.

sarah

Soooo true bestie

D G

Please! I want Liz to start a separate podcast exclusively for all the sport, skincare & celebrity gossip. That way she won't keep doing it in trueanon episodes.

D G

It's psychotic to label someone psychotic based on one internet comment.

D G

What?! Liz, mean? No! Liz is extremely nice... Just take her word for it.

Zzz

“Autistic hamster” lol

D G

That's in their style-guide

D G

Considering she collabed with Elon... I would say ewwww. That's a stink that doesn't wash off no matter how hard you scrub.

D G

Unexpected? He's all zing!

D G

She was just offline for scheduled version upgrade and maintenance.

D G

Great! We need to get yet another charger.

JDF

goated ep

bob

Reminds me of Prince Harry’s tale of playing Halo with Americans after 9/11. McMansionCore vibes.

Antipaganda

Fuck that. That's like taking some of the spices out of a stew. You won't know quite why the podcast is worse.

Mood Slut

When I was in my 20s living with a bunch of friends in a house together, we had a neighbour we called Cheeseburger because he both looked and sounded like he was stashing cheeseburger in his cheeks. Great guy, though. Talked down noise complainers and cops whenever we had parties

Egg B

Honestly they would’ve made a great couple.

Egg B

Greta on tip line when

Antipaganda

Oh man, this reason guy is my favourite new libertarian femboy

Hank Horchatta

The January 2024 AFC Championship Game was rigged so they could hard launch the Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce bullshit.

Antipaganda

That was Liz, because she's sick

Antipaganda

She's autistic, unless it's a focus of hers she might not understand what the point of gossip is. I'm autistic and I barely started to get it only after turning 40.

JULIE

watch your language

JULIE

you sound fat ngl

JULIE

what the fuck is wrong with you

ploob

Mid- value

Christopher Mesler

So Chomsky is too ill to respond to emails but he can come out with a whole new Masterclass ™️ course?????

Floodlights

Love Liz’s rationalization for Thiel not being the antichrist.

Ian Firstenberg

More than anything else, this is a show about friendship

D G

This episode brought to you by iPad.

Chapo Bath House

The dad chat on the episode was so good. (My dad texts like Brace's dad)

NDowl

“Time out of joint” is the pkd novel

CT

Brace, Liz, YC…. If you’ve yet to do so, could you PLEASE consider doing some manner of show if not series on “Charter Schools”???

George Close

The comment to Chomsky regarding ants finding paths might be a reference to Chomsky's linguistics work. He was very influential in the "rules based" approach to modeling language with his famous "Chomsky Normal Form". The description of ants finding paths on the other hand alludes to so called "data driven" approaches to language which is the driving theory for Large Language Model tech. Would explain Chomsky's dismissive response.

Michael Ouderkirk

So you're saying Michael Barbaro went "PENIS 2 VAGINAAA"?

Harry Stobbart

Hey. I take modafinil for Narcolepsy. They really just keep you awake, not much else. Not recommended for a good time. Oxford students took them allot in the late naughties and there was a brief moral panic about "smart drugs" even though they didn't make you smarter they just let the students study more. Not at all important for understanding this subject just throwing this out there.

ERIC

LGBT friends who love the daily literally accused me of fake news, maga hater when I told them he switched teams. Bad podcast gets cool external lore and people can't handle it.

gumb0

where can I hear the Brace X Ashley St. Clair interview(s?)

Leanders

Wanted to keep saying Obamna throughout this episode

o

get yc off the mic. no one wants to hear him. sorry mate! youre a great producer but…

bobore

Uh, sure, I guess. I'm autistic and I can understand what gossip is pretty well. It's not complicated.

Yili

I went to a british international school in china and prince andrew came for an official visit to our school lol

Aurelie

Jeffrey definitely typed with his index fingers

Natalie

he helps the conversation flow, gives the hosts someone to chide together, he constantly has the answer to things that we'd all be saying in the comments otherwise...he knew what those little grandma glasses were called bro. Show some respect in his house

Natalie

She's had some good post eras tour streetwear tbh (and that eras tour folklore dress is beautiful) but it's hit or miss - and I just realized you're a Natalie too...let's fucking go

TommmyP

Matthew’s dad better have only been talking about brace cause other than when Liz talks about bron she is always non r worded

Dixie normus

YES….. I live in saint louis which is currently weighing a plan to shut down FORTY public schools at the end of this upcoming year, making the city have more charter+private schools than public. I work in education and am freaking out!

Maddie

#egg 🥚

mark muoio

YC is always saying the thing I’m saying either out loud or in my head as I’m listening.

DH

Boooooo no one likes you booooooo

Chapo Bath House

A meeting of the minds between Jasque and Brace would be so powerful

Gato gris

Taylor swift sucked all of Travis’ swag away like some sort of harpie or succubus. Turned him from a funky white boy to an off duty state trooper. Sad! Many such cases

Natalie

A pleasure to meet you 🤝

Kate Derringer

I need to know how Liz gets so much juicy gossip such as confirmation that Taylor Swift has dated a woman

polarkeef

I always appreciate yc's 45 seconds of airtime. Plus, he explains all the goofy online bs that brace and liz aren't familiar with

EMCsquare

I was wandering around Harvard Square a few days ago and walked into an outdoor welcome mixer at the Kennedy school. Burst out laughing to see that one of the buildings was named after a Mr Leslie H. Wexner.

Maurito

If we fused Liz and Brace together should we name it Bliz or Lace?

Connor Appel

Modafinil is sick and isn't making anyone tweak out. It is pretty mild compared to adderrall or ritalin. No way was this guy on moda, unless he was taking 1000 mg and smoking crack.

Ryan Moths

I don't remember him being into Candace Owen's except as a meme but he is (and has mentioned this) into blondes. Hence his love for Sabrina Carpenter as well

Natalie

It's her pod so just check her page hourly

bonbon

YC slander?? in this economy?? positive male role models are an endangered species, how could u say this about my North Star

Praxcheat

came here to say this. went off addy and on moda and it’s wayyy less cracky/addictive. you’d have to really have a lot and even then it’d prob just raise your heart rate to make you sweat. it’s not like addy at all. not like any other stim where most ppl want more.

Baby J

But is it fun? I’ve seen a person tweak out on 100mg. She might’ve had some other stuff going on.

Zakir KH

I like this guest.

Isaac

I see you know your Judo well.

Nothingburger Burgerreich

*ahem* either the first April fools ep or the one year anniversary ep, forget which, Liz and Brace react to their first episode. In it, Liz mentions that her voice changed due to stopping smoking (maybe).

Natalie

Ok that was an incredible episode which I will be re-listening to asap

Schwartz666

Prince Andrew has low standards alright, especially regarding age... heyooooo

rudy2d

Good lord, with all due respect, ya'll couldn't have edited out Liz's incessant mouth-breathing from the episode?

Schwartz666

Damn Yung, your Dad needs better friends.

Horse Badorties

The point of charter schools is to destroy public schoolteacher unions.

Horse Badorties

Ritalin=tired, Focalin=wired (the good isomer of Ritalin)

Horse Badorties

I do not respect cooties-based politics.

Horse Badorties

"When Epstein was neck-deep in it" balls-deep? Deformed-mushroom-deep?

Graham Isom

The Rabin killers were both Orthodox but not Haredi to my knowledge

Khaqan Ahmad

“i cough bc im sad” and “brace bin belden” less than 2 minutes in…banger

Tranche Devereaux

Could’ve also edited out her zinger “lezbo truthers” 🥴

Tranche Devereaux

There’s no such confirmation - that’s been deboonked

Barry

Keep Liz's mouth out [of] my wife's name!

Mitch

They could have Chris Collinswerth and old Al check out 1/4 of the way through the wedding broadcast

Dez Martin

Was impossible to tell he was saying ddo secrets, I went back like 3 times and could not tell what TF he was saying

Praxcheat

not fun. just medicated focus. addy is fun, which is the problem

Jon

The Swift-Kelce wedding is going to be the tackiest thing since the Beckhams got married

Tessa

Dude what the fuck is wrong with you. Take that loser shit over to the red scare subreddit where it belongs

Mosie

Real heads know brace’s taste in women and we still love him romantically

Brian Long

Literally has never served. The dress is gonna be so bad, I can’t wait to see it n

gatito

holy throwback i do remember that lmao

regular bird

IF IT'S THERE, I'LL LOOK AT IT

Jacob

Nearly unsubscribed when Liz said "go birds" 🤢🤢🤢

A

Having a hard time getting thru this episode because I paused it like six times in thirty minutes so far to play New York Groove

Ty

Roosters can also earn glory defending the hen coop from various dangers and becoming the sire of numerous healthy progeny btw

Q

Get Chris kunzler on the pod

Paper _

White woman erasing the hard work of black women

Isaac

BOOOOO!!! Boo on you fool! You need to sit and think about where your negativity is coming from, because you’ve obviously reached the point where you’re saying negative shit just to say it and there’s no solid reason behind it.

Isaac

What are you his supervisor or something?

Christopher Mesler

Why are you so hot to defend the CIA operative/pedophile/Masterclass scammer

Isaac

I don’t count it because most people just saw the clip after the fact.

Isaac

Brace gets his dramatic TV tropes mixed up and says “Your Honor, I object!” …. 💥 💨 😵

Jordan

Can you link the Chomsky details? I can’t find it on the internet?

Alexandria

Spitballin theories does not confirmation make. This has been a long-time weird fan theory

Alexandria

For some reason it doesn't keep me awake necessarily? Mostly I feel nothing at all regardless of dose, definitely not a tweak to be found (unfortunately)

Alexandria

I saw a meme that said TK's best man and it was just a ref

Jacob

❤️

Alexandria

She's allergic to slaying. She's "her own stylist" yeah girl we know

Lizzie

Liz is so right about the Swift-Kelce's wedding and I also need this to be televised.

NitroDickclapp III

The ultimate ending to the lore in the trueanon saga would be where Brace and Liz fall in love and have a great, big, televised, Jewish wedding.

Chapo Bath House

Plot twist: they're both gay Plot twist 2: but with each other

AbeLinkin

Speak for yourself. I was there (on my couch watching it live. It was awesome)

Eric Johnson

Wait. There’s an award for Most Popular Boy in Grand Rapids? I live here and I MUST attain this prestigious honor at all costs.

D G

Yeah. Because taking the shitty stew-ruining spices out will make the stew worse?

Frank Rossitano

Where is this Noam Chomsky/epstein pic you speak of??

JV

Calling Handala the Palestinian Uncle Sam is so god damn funny. Anyway, I think the anti-christ is kind of like an undercover cop. They have to tell you they're the anti-christ if you ask them directly.

dam

Going to work sick is a classico American tradition

Bob Montana

Just got a chance to listen to the ep. Not sure if it was mentioned elsewhere, but Crumbl is literally Mormon coded. Many such cases and it's funny that Mormon and Israeli coded are blurred/blurring.

Leafandbeef

The vibes were super weird. I liked it.

jeanetteclairee

Lmk when you find it. I thought I was a victim to AI for a second

The Marvelous Meredith Marks

her eras tour streetwear was some of her worst!!!! inside sources at a brand she would frequently wear would cringe in embarassment, but repost as it was obviously good for business

C

Hard to imagine there was so long a time when yc didnt have a mic

k

From the wikipedia of the 1973 killings conducted in Beirut by Israeli forces: "Some of the commandos were to be disguised as women (Barak was disguised as a brunette woman)."

k

I think Spielberg also shows this detail in his movie Munich

Sam de Waele

16 part series with custom music please YC

ResilientBastard

My god I want to know which “lefty friend” Epstein shuttled from Greece in 2015

Ian

Could it be possible that after nearly a half century of every college age left-wing activist worshiping him and wanting to be like him that Chomsky finally decided to...by hanging out with the most evil man of our time...and by dismissing it in such a predictably infuriating manner...I don't know...maybe he wanted to test our anarchist principles? A final teachable moment out the door? If one wanted to demonstrate the pitfalls of hero worship, I can look no further for an instructional example.

chorchy

'i hope this is a joke that you don't have exaclty the same opinion of anarchism as me' girl get a grippington