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We're back with news from Ghislaine, Jeffrey and the rest of the creep show, plus: We discuss the dark underbelly of the “real” internet and look toward the 20th anniversary of 9/11.

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R I

Liz! Not Seinfeld, thats something Chandler said on friends

Natalie

Brace I bet a chicken would beat you in a maze race #stopchickenhate

Maya

This intro was ahead of its time

Jbear

Thank you Brace and Liz. Much needed this evening. You are friends to me.

Andrew

Thanks to all my friends who made this one possible

ian e

Stuck at the airport, gracias

Jimothy Realname

i'm gonna save and hold on to this episode for when *the time* is right

Nicholas CLARK

five days into quarantine derangement thank you for this 🙏

Thomas Siegel

After Yung Chomsky's sick beats, of course, this is the content i subscribe for Let's goooooo

Justlistening

What’s the deal with Red Scare?

Jimothy Realname

oi m8s, 'av fookin ghost stories bloke on innit

MoldyTolge

I’ve been SaddamMaxxing all week and the gains are second to none

Michael S. Judge

No joke, I'm Jestermaxxing next time I'm on here, hat, staff, pantaloons, and I'm 6'3", and if that's cheating, I'm a goddamn cheater

Alejandro Pepsi

I will not stand for this anti-chicken bigotry.

Anna

I love when chomsky plays his little love theme music when either brace or Liz say something nice to one another

justdave

Ya, well im like 7 and half feet tall and dressed as the joker right now buddy (great show the other day)

Varjon

had some loose stools lately should i go see a doctor? not every day. it worries me because i do take fiber supplements so i shouldn't be having watery shits.

sammi sweetheart

Every new episode is chicken soup for my soul. 😭 So thankful for you guys.

Isaiah C

Let me know if someone draws a chad jester pls

#1 Deep Thinker

Politely requesting a Yung Chommo lofi mix for us sad souls locked indoors and downunder, cheers cobber.

uleg0

look up who annas dad is 👁

gill

anyone know the song used in the interstitial?

Mathew Hall

the OG 9/11 was the masonic kidnapping of william morgan in the 1840s

Will

I will 100% be listening to twelve hours of this podcast in honor of 9/11. I simp for my podcasts

Will

And yung chomsky

gill

would you be so kind to tell me the song title, brace/liz/yung chomksy/mehmet?

gill

release the jestermaxx tapes!

gill

it's a great song, thanks sir

don't come here

guys, go to jury duty, it's one of the most straightforward ways for a civilian to intervene in our fucked up justice system

walmart ed hopper

This ep got me to finally delete Instagram, thanks y’all ❤️❤️

Stephen Wells

The largest and the original "911 Truther Group" (A&E4911Truth) is and always was a limited hang out, in my studied opinion. I reserved the book in my local library "Where Did The Towers Go? Evidence of Free Energy Technology on 9/11" by Dr Judy Wood Ph.D in Materials Science.

MoldyTolge

If Liz is talking about a Y: The Last Man adaptation, the comic is a prefiguration of both Brace and Jestermaxxing. Women are generally pretty upset that he’s the one who lived. Except the dude has a lighter that says “FUCK COMMUNISM”? That’s a bit of a divergence

MoldyTolge

I showed up in shorts and got booted lol. I look forward to DOING MY PART in the future

Ben M

isn't the FUCK COMMUNISM lighter a Preacher thing?

MoldyTolge

Straight off the dome I think the last guy character has read Preacher. He’s a magician too and I have to believe Brace has known a few sleights of hand in his time. Just need to figure out where The Dark Cowboy fits in.…

otis

Hashes either match or they don't. There's no "strong match."

Brian Long

Internet commentary is right on. I continue to pull myself away from being online.

scott

the "strong match" would be two images similar enough for the ml to give them the same hash, like an image and a brightened version of the same image

Justlistening

He’s an algorithm/AI mathematician? Looks like he was a big name in theoretical and practical applications for computer science… and business management math?

Alex

Music just gets better and better. Great job YC

Justin

When are you gonna cover Chris Chan??

Salt M. Bank

Re-listened to the 9/11 eps as you advised and having a grand old time. Two subjects you broached as possible future episodes: Turkey and hurricane Katrina. Would love to hear these happen someday.

Lesley Anne Noelle

we understand Liz, everything that looks easy is really difficult.

Gavin Farrell

yeah wow, really came out of the gate pooping all over the normies that show up for jury duty. I've done jury duty a few times now and it wasn't bad.

TrueAnonPod

No I think people should do jury duty it’s just that every single person I’ve ever known has always tried to get out of it

Breakaway

Was the music in this episode YC’s ode to MF DOOM?

BB

Is humpty dumpty an egg though?

LL

Unfortunately the Apple shit is all so unsurprising. This is what sex workers who were warning about FOSTA-SESTA and EARN-IT were worried about. Fear of and attempt to control or limit sex work, human trafficking, and child porn are the decoys for all state and tech sanctioned privacy violation. I know I’m preaching to the choir here. But wow, this nasty shit is here and it happened a lot faster than I personally anticipated.

Jimothy Realname

Synchronized swimming is also a better term because it can easily be shortened to "synchro". I had a cousin who did synchro. Humpty Dumpty absolutely has a dick though edit: *had* a dick. its well known humpty dumpty is dead

Jimothy Realname

after doing some research, i partially recant my previous position. Given that humpty dumpty was an egg, he therefore must have contained a yolk, possibly even an embryo. Given that humpty dumpty was ambulatory (sitting implies that he also had non-sitting states), he must therefore have been alive, I posit that humpty dumpty must have contained an embryo. Therefore, humpty dumpty *would* have necessarily had genitalia, had he ended up hatching. So we have established that humpty dumpty would have had genitalia. As humpty dumpty was a male egg, it is presumable that he would have become a rooster. Roosters *do not* have dicks, rather they have a little nub in their cloaca through which they bust. However, roosters *do* have balls and could be said to have "junk." But here's the kicker: I made a pretty big assumption there, saying that humpty dumpty would have hatched into a bird of any kind. What the hell kind of bird lays an egg that has a face and walks around? What kind of monstrosity would lay such an egg? And what kind of nightmare would hatch from it? It seems to me that humpty dumpty would have produced a horrible, unclean being. Possibly a demon, or the antichrist. Given that the King of England (known satanic pedophile) was so invested in protecting this abomination as to muster his entire army to try to fix it, it seems to me that Humpty Dumpty would have brought something horrible into this world if he had been allowed to come to term, and thus he should *not* be mourned and the incident in which he fell off the wall should be celebrated as a victory of good over evil.

otis

Changing a single pixel changes the hash, though?

Luke F

Get a hobby, doofus

Jeff

An important note about hashing: As i understand it, a given file’s hash signature is just a long string of numbers and letters (hex values, so only A-F and 0-9) that uniquely identifies that file; any kind of file, not just images. It’s a pretty common and relatively old way to verify whether two files are the same or not. (look up MD5 or SHA hash generators— might demonstrate better). So it sounds to me like if they’re comparing hash signatures to a database, they’re just comparing strings of text, in so many words. It ain't even a “scrambled image” at that point, it’s just text. I didn’t see this important detail described in the previous comments explicating the topic so i just wanted to put that out there. For the sake of brevity i’m leaving some background out and i am by no means saying Apple’s process here is totally benign. Just saying that the initial “scanning” layer of this process is made less invasive when the hash signatures are understood as i described. There is a distinct possibility i’m missing something so feel free to correct/expound on these thoughts. Uhh also 10000% agree with Brace that the internet warps ppl (myself included) and all that stuff. So anyway ima go do a double shot of tequila

Julian

Are you symptomatic?

Nicholas CLARK

Nah, just back to see family after a long time overseas in a country with very strict border controls rn

DH

I can't think of a topic they should cover less

Nic Warnock

Would like to push the TrueAnon 911 series on friends/fam and Robbie Martin’s A Heavy Agenda but they’re both pretty uhhh epic in duration. Anyone have tips on palatable intros to this subject? Doesn’t have to be an insta-graphic.

Chris Ryan

TXV: Fuck off SpaceGhostDurpp

Chris Ryan

The only thing that is less worthy of being discussed in 2021 than Chris Chan is… The Simpsons

00000000000000000000

Re: 9/11: Like Chris Hayes, journalist Matt Taibbi made his bones by shitting all over the 9/11 Truth movement. And 9/11 Commission maestro Philip Zelikow has been involved in doing a similar historical cover-up about Covid.

Sean

Shaun King is the Olive Skinned Man

Alejandro Pepsi

Still mad about this after my relisten. C'mon brace, speak your mind about chickens and ill educate you.

Mr. Lobotomy

I think Fahrenheit 9/11 made it pretty clear that the US federal government helped coordinate 9/11

Mr. Lobotomy

Money had to be made! The US was just getting gangster with it as always.

Nic Warnock

I can't remember if I've seen this. Thanks!

Elsie Hupp

Hashing is a piece of data’s social security number. It isn’t the data itself, but if you have it you can use it to, say, open a Neiman Marcus credit card in the name of that piece of data.

Elsie Hupp

The way I’ve heard hashing described is that it’s any algorithm that reliably creates the same unique identifier for a given piece of data. This is so that (a) if you hash the same or identical pieces of data on two separate occasions, you get the same hash value, and (b) if you hash non-matching pieces of data, you never get the same hash value for them. The main piece of difficulty with hashing CSAM is that it needs to be able to create accurate hash values even when the media has been camouflaged, say with a Photoshop filter. This is why Apple is keeping its hash algorithm secret. The other difficulty is that a hash vale generally needs to be sufficiently abstracted from the data it represents to be able to be put in a fast, efficient search database. This and also not simply distributing CSAM on every iOS device for matching purposes is why hashing uses an abstract number.

Jessica S

I had to look up the term Jestermaxx for more background b/c, old. I totally forgot that there is actually an Incel site. That’s the kind of website I fear my 10 y/o son accessing, lol, not the other stuff parents are told to be considered over.

Jessica S

100% agree. I’m skeptical of the payout - like how many criminal rings are they busting? I’m not arguing that a certain number is worth bc no number is worth the intrusion, and I say that as someone who has wee ones at home (I’m such a traitor). I say it b/c I think they expect us to simply assume it’s very effective, when in reality it turns out that 3/4th of the militia planning to kidnap the Gov of Michigan are actually FBI/FBI informants, including the guy that initiated the plan to begin with. (Excellent podcast they did on that a few weeks ago, so not surprising.) So I don’t believe anything they claim they can do to “protect” us, and that 1000 times more true for anything they claim they can stop behold it happens with this kind of shit. Searching through photos without any suspicion of what/who to target?? It makes me wonder if all the privacy posturing about allowing Apple users to opt out of apps tracking and whatever things that got dataphiles all in a tizzy, if it was just to create a soft landing for this roll out. (She types from her iPhone...sigh)

LL

Thank you for this!!!! It's always SO NICE to hear when ppl with kids (ie the target audience they're seeking approval for these privacy violation measures) call it out for the bull shit it is. Cant wait to be in AppleJail (iJail) for being a literal whore and anti-gov't leftist lol.

a clash of purple

A much higher percentage of the internet is cancer these days than ten or twenty years ago, unfortunately. I have nieces and nephews around that age and I'm stunned when I overhear the stuff they watch, even what is supposedly kid-friendly. Things are probably actually less vulgar now, but the sort of ambient ideology and thoughts floating around are way worse. Kids should just stick to Pokemon or whatever, it's healthier.

Jessica S

No kidding. Recently my 7 y/o asked me what “a Karen” was, lol. I told her “it’s a secret message telling you to stop watching You Tube”.

Crash Test Orphan

I was a content moderator for 4 years in the US and it's as horrific as the piece describes.

Don Workman

Do you keep chickens? They can be lovely but their heads are empty.

Michael S. Judge

I gotta say, though, far better for your son to see it at 10 than at 29

BryceSprungstein

It would be weird if Humpty Dumpty's penis was shaped like Jeffrey Epstein. Not 'Jeffrey Epstein's penis' but Jeffrey Epstein

Michael S. Judge

I got kicked out of jury duty because they asked if anyone would be inclined to treat police differently as witnesses than non-police, and like 50 hands went up, and I thought, Whoa, really?, and they called me first, and I said, "I would never under any circumstances believe the testimony of a cop," and then the next 49 people stared violently at me as they all explained that they either were or had been cops & would always believe the police

Floyd Hill

I use the internet since 97, I was on usenet etc. and I've seen our liberties devolve and internet spying by the government legitimized early on and the reason was always, always about CP. When we know they could care less and we've seen what their true motivations at the TLA's really are, social control to keep the empire running despite how hallucinatory and contradictory it gets. Especially since "Russiagate" which really was UkraineGate/IsraelGate in many ways (Ukraine nazis <3 the Clinton/Biden DLC faction of the Democrat Party) and also from the right with Cambridge Analytica....it's also shown a lot of the Empire type goals of US foreign policy seem to be dictated by the UK in a more open fashion than I would ever think and would have laughed off as ridiculous a decade ago when I turned from a social-democrat to a real socialist.

Floyd Hill

Susan Lindauer was the first civilian picked up for reasons of the PATRIOT ACT and was released by the sheer luck of her uncle being an old very respected lawyer, but she spent years abused with drugs and general mistreatment in a military brig. She knew what was going to happen as she was a back channel asset of the CIA to talk with Iraqi Intelligence at the UN and a peace activist. It was cutting charges and a small underground shaped-charge neutron nuke. That's what explains all the cement and people and everything but the beams (that had cutting charges at the most convenient points). U of Alaska has disproven NIST's lies and not long after covid showed up, they proved how WTC7 was destroyed and it was a mix of things being done, if there were DEW's, they didn't blow the the 3 towers and the inside of WTC6 all at once, it seems like they would've been slow cooked to help the other mechanisms to succeed. The radioactive isotopes found in the air and dust by the government and independent researchers cannot be explained without some 4th/5th generation neutron nukes placed under the towers. As for what created the original holes...I won't discuss that, I've done so too much and there's no point....but Judy Wood is a crank, even if she is right about DEW's (which are acknowledged by the US gov and news stations nowadays), she says nothing else was involved and that's total BS. Read Mrs. Lindauer's book.

Floyd Hill

The first 10 Simpsons season were perfect critique of the US and some of the funniest and smartest show ever....but everyone knows that and there's no point in discussing it any further.