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Episode 192: Ball Does Lie (Patreon)

Published:
2021-10-29 04:13:37
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2024-10-11 00:17:11
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We are joined by the lovely lads Adam Friedland and Stavros Halkias to talk all things Ball: David Stern, MJ, refs fixing games, and Sonya Curry.

Pod Don't Lie Cumtown 

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To w

Holy shit this episode sucked

Waleed

I might be one of the few intersections between listeners of pardon my take and trueanon and I love stavros but god damn you can never escape the "hahaha" that comes out of him after he says literally anything

cmanenarwhale

i hate gamblers like jordan. if ur gonna be a degenerate gambler, at least pay your share. the fun of gambling is having the chance to win, but if u cheat then the whole thing is ruined.

Absolute Terror

If there is money to be made, and the people involved can influence the results, then some of them certainly are, this has always and will always be the case. You've just got to either not gamble, only gamble on things that are pure chance, or pay close attention to rumors and trends/behavior that indicate who is cheating the same way you would pay attention to injury reports. Cheating and which parties are better or more brazen about it is just 1 more factor to account for.

Josh

I feel so bad for Stavvy after the recent Giannis shit. One of the NBAs most likable players, will hopefully forever be remember as a slumlord

Tom

Beautiful episode

Yeahman

Hell fucking yeah boys I'm gay

Preston

shoulda been larry david not david stern 😔

Jackie Kangas

Love bball love cum town love trueanon simple as

Alez

Hell yeah dude

gatito

I AM SO EXCITED

gatito

FUCK

gatito

and also im gay

Quincy Judd

nick was too busy having gay sex

Pay

No way

Aaron C

What a treasure

brett Kreidberg

I literally just got finished listening to pod don’t lie and that fat dirty Greek fuck comes up again.

GolfBaller

The NFL's product is just too bombastic. Its "organizational" problems (as if the organization isn't the NFL) will always be seen as separate from the teams and players themselves. I wouldn't hold my breathe over the worst of the worst of them going down. It's not gonna happen.

Miss Lourdes

If your read this comment youre are a fagget 👉😎👉

Svid

Jesus, you all associate with Adam Freidland?

Rob Zora

This is a v fun episode but I'm getting so much whiplash listening to this and the last one back to back is giving me such whiplash hahaha

Allan Castellon

I didn't realize I wanted stav and brace content until this very moment

Tom Wilkinson

Epic cumboys crossover hell yeah

emp10s

what the heck are you guys even talking about?

Rivieraa

Enough national NBA pods I have to skip for pels trash talk, not here too!

Samantha Geovjian Clarke

alone in his apartment, petting his cat in the dark, thinking about how much he doesn't understand or care about basketball

Ryan Pritchett

Surprised Nick isn’t on considering he’s the one manically obsessed with pedo conspiracies.

Kevin

brace shoulda just sat this one out

Sean

All my friends in one place 🤪💚

justdave

Muggsy beat Jordan's ass, and yannis is proof that the game is staged

justdave

Seriously, full grown ass men playing games for a living? It's obviously a state run avenue for political propoganda

justdave

My friend(black) who played pro calls it mandingo fighting

Gavin Farrell

Sportsball sportsball sportsball. Ugh.

Brendo

Lame

Mickey Knox

Donaghy didn’t ref the Kings-Lakers series, Scott Foster did

WF52

Favorite modern NBA scandal/conspiracy is Michael Flynn trying to kidnap Enez Kanter for Erdogan, such a wild story

Gavin Farrell

A way to extract any excess money from middle and working classes. Capitalism, baby. If anything else, the fact that we spend so much money on sports shows that we are still a relatively wealthy country. Although sports attendance I think is less and less a working class thing and more a PMC and petite bougouis thing.

justdave

And muggsy Bowles (?) Could never dunk, his lay up and his aggressiveness, plus being small gave him an advantage against a room full of trees, that's how the game should work -a real team looks like mountains ⛰ all different shapes and sizes, LeBron only really became dangerous when he found his true role, if your the perfect man, you Feed everybody else.

justdave

Stav would make a great inside the key ball piggy, and Adam would make a great 3 point dandy lad ballerina

justdave

Brace can be manager and Liz'l be guard (and I'll play point)

Jon W

The Epic Crossover nobody expected

Jason Stephens

trueanon is a podcast about being gay with your dad

No Name

What is this Chris Webber slander?! He is a fantastic announcer. I know you all hate everything/everyone, but this is too much.

Cooper Zilkenat

I’m glad we finally got some real intellectuals on this podcast.

Kasz

That's hilarious. Jesus Christ that's so fucking funny. Isn't his name Enez Gulen now?

Mark Owen

Still traumatized, haven't followed the league since the Sonics moved

Zach zeller

Cool. When’s the hockey pod coming?

Marston Bicks

Tbh nothing interesting ever happen unless you like the sport/coked up roenick in Vegas (look what the libs have taken from us)

Graham Hoese

"Just two BBW boys on the prowl" *sirens fade in*. I dropped a weight on my face lol

WF52

Yeah he changed his name for a minute there. Double checked the Flynn thing and it turned out he was trying to get Gulen, not Enez Kanter, but it would've been so funny if James Dolan started a feud with Erdogan because he kidnapped his starting center.

Martin Ross

I had no idea Liz knew so much about the NBA . If she’s mentioned it on the show before I missed it.

Dave-O

Yeah she’s all about sports, Xmas, and rogue economists

A S

I can't believe I had to scroll this far to find one these. I was expecting multiple pearl clutching posts within the first 15 comments.

Jack kessler

Damn I’ve been up for like 3 days and I pressed play and then started reading the comments on the newest cum town patroon post like “the only thing gayer then listening to this podcast is listening to this podcast and then complaining about it.” And then I hear Adam say true anon fuck kids ass, and then my stomach and head hurt.

Eamon Fogarty

This is all well and good but for the sake of balance you need to let brace do an episode about how much he loves fairport convention or something. I’m sure you can find some conspiracy theory you can also sort of talk about for a few minutes...

CE

One of you should make a note every time someone says, "We need to talk about X" or "We're gonna talk about X' so you can at least have a chance of working your way back to it when everyone gets memory-wiped by some long tangent. Really wanted to hear Liz talk about Lebron and Kobe's steroid use!

Kasz

Liz is gonna be a cool little old senior citizen one day

TrueAnonPod

I have Vinnie stigmas phone number and was going to call him but forgot

Doug Cartel

there was this story years and years back where some euros were trying to do "football diplomacy" or something, where they were going to try to make positive effects on the international scene by opening stadiums all over the world. Probably useful, just not in a utopian sense.

Mike Malloy

Ok but the Wolves picking Jonny Flynn was very defensible at the time, Steph had a lot of question marks, and Jonny could've had a decent career if not for injuries

BIG VIBES

i love hearing brace talk sports. also, i was not aware of any of these hoopspiracies

uleg0

Brace and Nick pedo-centric ep for the cranks which also has to be around 40% impressions

Jack

I cannot believe this episode exists there is a god

Red Baltimore

Three Hebrew gentlemen, a Polish broad and a basketball-shaped white immigrant doing a podcast about hoops, God bless amerikkka 🇺🇲🦅🏀

rolfesam

My halloween costume this year is the patreon commenter who says “this podcast is for shitlibs now” every episode

Cory Kim

Hell yeah dude

justdave

Cus he refuses to take his gun holster off when we run suicides at practice

justdave

The polls and jews have a storied basketball history actually

D.K. Wilson

What’s best about this episode is the most knowledgeable person was Liz. Oh, and a couple things: the first NBA ROY award had co-winners. One of them got busted for game fixing. You have to search hard to even find this first season for the NBA giving an award to rookies. Game-fixing and the NBA go waaaay back. Next, the referee plane ticket scandal. Barely known but ending up in federal court were FORTY-ONE refs who were involved in selling free 1st class tickets, flying coach and not reporting this act on their federal tax forms. I did the research (and wrote about it at length). I could find public mention of only 23 refs… only ONE took any public heat. And most continued reffing games. I’ll stop with l’affair Jordan. Yeah the lost season was about gambling. And it wasn’t the Italian mob who pressed Stern. And how did Mike ultimately pay Stern back? By throwing the 1995 Eastern Conference semis. I won’t go into the specifics but there were two trips up the floor in the last minute of Game 6 in Orlando that let you know with certainty that MJ was paying back the NBA by putting Shaq and Penny Hardaway, who were seen as the NBA’s future, on the national stage. Anyway. THANKS LIZ! You were great.

Justin Hubbard

If the Sonics had stayed in Seattle, KD/Russ/Harden would still be together and they would have won the finals every year of the last decade

Ryan Pritchett

Defensible how? The wolves had two top ten picks in a row and used both to pick point guards who couldn’t shoot. Peak retardation.

DagoRed

Soccer has something like cold envelopes, but they’re “warm balls”

Faroose

Great ep but shocked Stav didn’t broach the greatest Jordan bet ever. Jordan, Pippen, and Horace Grant all had toddler sons around the same age and made a bet on which one had the biggest dick. Jordan actually lost that one to Pippen.

Hector

PLEASE

Hector

brace please have him on

calvin kilby

She mentioned lipstick alley, a gossip blog centered on the romantic lives of nba athletes, that's definitely a tell

James Murray

If Draymond's a genius I'm a Chinese fighter pilot.

justdave

Im gonna be anti-mask this year

CE

As soon as it became clear that Liz really knows her shit about the NBA (and seemingly watches the NFL too?) I was hoping she would finally be the one to say that rolling your eyes and calling it "sportsball" while you adjust your fucking New Yorker tote bag and treating sports fans as, by default, a bunch of slobbering neanderthals is elitist and classist and a legit barrier to working class solidarity and we should just quit that shit immediately. Not in this episode, unfortunately. It's true though.

justdave

Jordan was a once in generation talent, his shooting and dribbling were on point but his charging air Jordan leap, made him so unstoppable. However, I think his real talent was his intimidation game, I think he reminded everyone of their high-school bully, only a few players weren't bated by it.

ClownBabee24

Can you guys do a deep dive into Enes Kanter? Im like 90% sure hes some kind of Deep State Asset

Mike Malloy

It was 2009, people weren't looking for PGs to be shooters (part of the questioning around Curry was, is he more of a SG than a PG). And Wolves drafted 2 PGs because Rubio (who everyone had going ahead of Curry) wasn't coming over to the US right away.

Daniel Martínez González

"Ya'll hate Ted Lasso Season 2 because y'all can't take a sudden strap on up your butt from your woman and enjoy it, you fell threatened by it"

Juan Sacchi

Amazing crossover (ha ha) episode, my only complaint is Liz not talking about Enes Kanter, the spookiest player in the league and his strange connections

Cameron Young

Liz go on TrueHoop! Brace go on Call Her Daddy..

00000000000000000000

I was with Brace on this one, struggling to keep up and quiet in the corner. I don't think I've ever heard a show where dude was that utterly humbled.

CT

did someone do a cringe???

Rachael Nelson

i love hearing 2 dudes talk about who should suck their dick and then argue about whether or not a basketball player’s wife is hot

K'caj

Yeah that can't be stressed enough.

cstenzy

TIL who that old guy choking while drinking a bottle of water in that gif is

Lilith

As a New Zealander who doesn't care about my own countries sports, this was the most boring episode imaginable. The first one I think that I didn't get to the end of. I skipped forward and found that yes, you really were just going to talk about sports for the whole time. Yawn.

Ricky Metters

Lilith literally nobody cares lmao

Matthew

Classic episode

Ivana

ghastly :))) thank god for brace's gay humor

Wesley Thompson

Terrible, as in the episode, not the "shocking" subject matter. Truly obnoxious guests and a waste of time. Pretty disappointed

Lilith

No, my country are completely sports mad. Not caring about NZ sports is an unusual thing for a New Zealander. Amerikkkan sports on the other hand, is definitely something that no one in New Zealand cares about. You guys don't even play the same sports as us.

Alejo

Stav was in his bag this episode

Alejo

This episode rocked

Abiel Beluts

Stav and Liz fucking rule for this one.

Jared Walker

Fuck everyone who didn’t like this ep. Resubbed just to listen to it, and was not disappointed, probably my fav ep of the podcast

Miss Lourdes

I agree lilith. And i really dig the name

markers

No one else could get a word in, certainly not Adam. ;)

Monty Tenderson

loved this episode, more NBA/NFL on the pod imo

Asher

like how in the last ep liz choked up about shes not “not gonna waste this platform” then boom! basketball

Vincent Utah

What she’s not? I thought her big move recently was to a retirement home?

Vincent Utah

Mr Friedland and I regularly met in a bathroom on the ground floor of Madison Square garden back in January of 2017. He’s a crier.

Rand

This episode was boring as fuck for people who don’t care about basketball but I want to know more about canter

Saq

Liz quadrupled her curse word quota for this one. Look forward to when every sentence doesn’t start or end with Fuck or Fuckin.

Timaeus

love Stavvvvy baby his voice is so fun. idk the other guy much at all I don't listen to Cumtown, I know Stav from other guest appearances on Chapo n shit. great ep👌

IHaveHemorrhoids

God damn it's hilarious how many people pay to subscribe and then cry because sports and curse words

Michael S. Judge

This isn't exactly a scandal, but I loved it a few years ago when Mo Harkless had a big contract bonus if he could shoot 35% from 3, so he got up to exactly 35% and then refused to take another 3 for the rest of the season

Lawson

Liz is wild for her take on Draymond's Nut-gate. Great episode aside from that though.