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For our 200th Episode we hit the mean streets of Chicago and are immediately lightly beaten by our personal trainers and then arrested. 

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meow

Bananas in pajamas!

Camden

Maybe brace has explained it somewhere else but why did he get kicked out? I’m a teacher and I have a kid in my class who has threatened to beat up multiple teachers and done other wild shit. They just kick you out quick in California?

Lulu

About to unsubscribe with all the Irish hate? Literally why? I'm Irish. We do not wear kilts btw. It's not line dancing either. It annoys me you keep insulting my country for no reason and the irony is you just sound like dumb ignorant Americans in the absolute worst stereotypical way.

Lexi Featherston

It’s 2024 I’m ready for Jussie’s A24 redemption movie

Zacharia Lewis

Girl calm down, it’s not that serious. You’re Irish, you’re not an oppressed minority anymore babe

Lulu

We never were a minority in our own country? Looking at everything through an American lense. Again very annoying. If you're from a real country it's annoying when people, insult your culture.

HANNAH

I am Irish and I say, go right ahead.

Josh

Three months, 200+ episodes in, TrueAnon getting better and better

Joe Zyer

I love buying screws from that crafty beaver

gemboi

dudes rock

Chris Car

Is there one big rope around both your necks?

regan

Damn I ate my poop again :(

orc

Yess #freejussie

justdave

And what number isn't in the fibonacci sequence? 200, this was all forseen by nostradamus, we are all living in prophecy brothers and sisters

Sam F

There was a great protest today by the mayor's house in Chicago. 18 or so anti-mandate (not sure which mandate tbh) bolstered by their children went and shared their covid with the cops. True freedom fighters

Yeahman

Never sucked on my own wood, but I know someone who has, makes me wonder if I could

Bryson Martinez

Depends on length and flexibility. Many instructional videos online. Thank you.

McNuggie

Used to work by the crafty beaver- pretty sure once the story broke they started marketing themselves on it.

Char Kelly

Holy shit did we bully Liz and Brace into a #Justice4Journalists4Jussie episode??

Paul O'Neill

Damn, I was wondering why Wrightwood was blockaded at Kimball. Had hoped it was a CTU solidarity thing but anti-mandaters are an acceptable proletarian vanguard

big microbe

For a second I thought it was a new version of the theme song, with saxophone

Jon Juan Travis Hallowell

I haven't watched this yet though, I will soon, but I enjoyed the piece on this subject on this blog Www.samkriss.com

Nicolas

He ordered a salad at a subway

Mike Mccann

it’s mf free jussie over here 🤞🏼#twin

Justin Hastings

Did brace shart his shit or did Liz frame him? Or did yungchomsky gaslight them both with wizardly producer sound effects?

Louie Van Patten

Thank you for making this show, I love listening to you guys and the production is wonderful.

Jessica S

I got your back, Liz. I don’t think I ever say it written, I always thought “Mighty Mighty Boss Tones”. Whatever those are. Lol.

justdave

Ok, so goin to a bath house and masturbating with a famously gay actor means your gay now, then I guess Im gay 🙄

Lulu

I will not accept the Santa Rosa slander. It is in the NORTH Bay!! People from SF always gatekeeping the Bay smh

Zack Burke

How is Concord not in the Bay Area, bruh?

Taggart

🥳✨200. Thank you 🤩

Tia Benedict

So Elaine Guggenheim et al are off the hook?

m

multi-hyphenate brace-belden-gay-retarded

Josh

Barry Bonds Bias

pat

thank u for everything!!!

Brad

It’s was actually way colder than 7 degrees on the 29th. An actual polar vortex hit that night and wind chills were -5 to -10 degrees

Samuel Matthew Hilton

Wait, whats the consensus on food not bombs? I thought it was cool 😎

Patrick Cleary

Yeah schools were closed if I recall correctly. Walking around outside on one of those nights is unimaginable.

Ian H

CPD=domestic GLADIO From August 68, to Fred Hampton, to (Phoenix Program vet) John Burge, to the Homan Square black site, to Laquan Mcdonald. It has been a key test site for domestic counterinsurgency since, arguably, the Haymarket stitch-up.

lolwuthappend

Does anyone else think it's wild that these upstart commies are now making, what, about ~$300k a year each? Does Patreon take a cut? I wish they would talk about their new found wealth sometime. Does it affect their praxis

Jonney Weab

Brace being a ska hater is disappointing

I_Am_BaBa

I had never seen the Jussie Smollet threat letter lmao thank you so much for bringing this to my attention. The stick figure sideshow Bob tree was the best.

John Bruehler

For non Chicago people the “attack” was actually nowhere near the suburbs, it was about as downtown as you can get

Will McCauley

I will not tolerate any Concord slander. Unsubbed.

TrueAnonPod

It’s fine w me it’s just a funny lil memory

Soapy

finally

Sarah Hunt

on the note of absolutely corrupt chicago political institutions; there's a whole book called Ghosts in the Schoolyard about the absolutely disgusting closure of a lot of public schools by the CEO of the chicago public school system who later got arrested for fraud of some sort i believe. insanely awful, racist and corrupt story

Oatmeal

I love it when you can hear Yung Chomsky laughing quietly in the background. Like a lonesome ghost that haunts the pod

Zack Burke

That's 30 miles away from Concord, my guy.

fried egg

brace belden fartgate the most controversial since mike francesa’s

Eoghan Flanagan

Nobody outside the US cares about this guy. Dull a f.

TrueAnonPod

Closer to Concord than Bay Proper. I started saying concord wasn’t in the Bay Area in 2005 when I found the drummer for my band who was from concord would get really mad if I got people to say concord isn’t the Bay Area and I’ve stuck with it

TrueAnonPod

I do not like ska music though I did see Desmond dekker in 2004

Zack Burke

Hahaha... that's mean, dude. Are you still doing music- if this is Brace?

Kompromatic

I think they were saying the suburbs of Chicago would be more “trump country” than where he was actually “attacked.” I was confused at first too

justdave

I played 'vapefest' 2015 and boy was there a lota vests and fadoras at that awful event

justdave

And you shouldn't

Evan Scott

it's not 2014 no one is pretending to be nostalgic for ska anymore

Jonney Weab

A lot of the modern Ska music is just horrible but Three Cheers For Disappointment never fails me

Nicolas

The only thing that REALLY matters in this case is how the hot brothers stole the show. 🤤

Danny

black sites in Chicago likely never ended, the homan location was finally shut down (I think?) in 2015

lolwuthappend

Their Patreon page says they earn ~$90k a month. 90k*12 = $1,080,000 / 3 = $360,000

lolwuthappend

YES. Also love references to his chiseled bod

lolwuthappend

Isn't Brace actually from Marin too? I grew up north of the bridge so I know what it's like to pretend to be from the city ;)

CT

Remember the part where anyone asked if we gave a shit?

Bess C

Nah it still exists

TrueAnonPod

Yeah not surprised at this chicago PD are scum bags

Mike Penix

I write like a serial killer child with my dominant hand. Also south side suburbs and where the black people aren't literally kept in Gaza style open air prisons south side of the city are deffo maga country.

James Bush

Fact: Until having himself fake-beat up, no one in the entire world had ever heard of this guy.

Bess C

Brace kinda perfectly summed up the vibe I was getting from cpd while the investigation was going on, like “hmmm this doesn’t seem like a real hate crime, take it from us, we know how this shit works”

Bess C

In August a woman was found dead ODed in a Chicago cop’s RV and he immediately resigned, and last month a woman was found hanged in a holding cell, basically nothing released to the public in both instances. Back the blue baby!

Mario Melara

My wife is from Santa Rosa and I'm from Concord dude. We're hella Bay Area.

Bess C

Both were black woman, and the one who was hanged was gay. So I guess that’s a less than 1 month old example of how a real racist and homophobic hate crime would actually happen in Chicago

Internet jones

Do a chicago ep! Or a CPD episode. Fred Hampton was pretty close to brokering a city wide multi union strike that would have ground everything to a halt. It would have been on the same scale maybe as the Pullman strike that landed debs in jail and lead to the city widening the streets and putting a military base close by to quell any potential riots and to break a large enough strike. Fred was pretty close to brokering a major shutdown of industry in the second biggest city in America at the time. Lesser known people(outside of chicago) who die mysterious deaths that probably are fbi related are boogie gonzalez and Rudy Lozano, both killed by gang members, Rudy was definitely killed for his labor and civil rights activities 100% for sure. There’s also Ben Lewis the first black alderman in chicago, who it’s been speculated was killed by either a professional hitmen or by the police https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/07/25/freedom-square-activists-imagine-public-safety-without-police-near-homan-square-black-site/ The story in here is pretty harrowing. But this is a police department that in the 70s killed multiple activists while coordinating with the FBI and most likely street gangs as well and the people responsible for those crimes have seen zero consequences.

Shiv

halfway in- living for the Barry Bonds FACTS. PUT HIM IN THE HALL OF FAME 🐓

Shiv

concord is also in the Bay —i mean you can at least Bart there! allegedly

Shiv

ok Brace you win I love this backstory and when you said it like Concorde the ✈️

Shiv

Baby Chomsky’s chuckles rule

Bess C

Did you hear about those lawyers in Oak Park who were murdered in their home in April 2020? I’m pretty sure that was a cpd hit too, the husband lawyer helped convict Jason van dyke. I really don’t think cpd ever stopped with this kind of shit. I agree they should do a Chicago/cpd episode but cpd and the city are so good at covering shit up it might legit be hard to research lol

LL

Please do a show on the black out sites and the torture victims of Jon Burge!

LL

I always just thought it meant the tones are boss

Jon Juan Travis Hallowell

Nooooo don't call me out for bleaching my jeans 🤣🤣🤣🤣 my best friend was an Egyptian skinhead

Juliette DeMaso

Based. I seriously did not want this one to end. Chicagoan, btw, and we can’t stand Rahm here. The neoliberal outside invasion has brought us Walgreens, Home Goods, Baby Optimization gentrifier preschools, Teeth whitening Med spas, shareholder urgent cares, Target, and plastic climbing walls in place of our stunning bulldozed historic neighborhoods. Daley, Blago, Washington, etc had their issues with corruption but it was local corruption. Daley told Big Box retailers they couldn’t develop anywhere in the city unless they paid fair wages.. which of course kept them out. Based. (Let’s just chalk up his asinine parking meter “deal” to insanity over having lost the Olympic bid, his ultimate dream of making Chicago a fully World Class city) since the gentrifiers entered the picture the cops have occupied so thoroughly, especially Mag mile, and the “local news” (another thing which used to be based here) has amped up the “black people are violent and steal stuff, and that’s it” coverage, along with shilling for developers and medical fash. Look into Illinois using Equifax to track vaccine status, followed by Chicago implementing full vaccine mandates. The city is a damn mess. Streets and San used to be everywhere, now the whole city is filthy and stinks like an open sewer. It’s segregated like never before, PMC’s putting up Unity murals to cover their plastic takeover. The unions have no support, except for the cops. Which have Bloated to hell.

ET

I want Liz's delayed and reverbed "Buh Byye" to echo through my brain as I pass away peacefully at the age of 69.

Jack Conlon

hey brotha me and the homies have gone to steamworks at 2am, nothin gay just vibing

Preston

how much did subway pay you for this episode

Acetate909

Would this be considered a false fag attack?

michaelkuca

on december 13th in a country that does DMY for the date

Bess C

The only maga country within Chicago’s city limits is Mount Greenwood on the south side because most of the cops live there and because they were literally the only neighborhood in the city to vote for Trump in 2016 lol. Fun fact Chicago is the only big city that has always required cops to live in the city and despite that being somewhat of a reform talking point, in Chicago it has only resulted in neighborhoods that are historic white cop enclaves

Bess C

Also I apologize to everyone here if I’m being annoying by commenting so much I probably am but I just hate these motherfuckers so much and I will not shut up about it until they get the reckoning they deserve so prob never

greg

liz is so edgy :)

Internet jones

Greenwood is on the edge of the suburbs in the south, Jefferson park is on the edge of the north, both cop enclaves. The requirement is that they live in there when they’re hired but the applicants can apply from any city, the majority of applicants are shitty suburbanites who are racist and think chicago is a warzone. Love that everyone from there or who knows about it is writing essays LOL

Bess C

@Internet jones I always forget about Jefferson park lol I’m not as familiar with the north side in general. And oh yeah you’re right about that hiring thing too I forgot about that fun little detail lol that really prob is the majority of cpd. And same I love it too lol

justdave

I was organizing my fingerless gloves and assortment of vests as I heard Brace MOCK ska music, and got so angry I yelled at my wife's boyfriend, Fernando didn't deserve that, and I blame you Mr Belden (If that is your real name)

Shiv

you think you gotta story? you don’t got a story

Jessica S

Yes! Totally boss tones, exactly.

Ebby

9 Shocks Terror ruled

Ben Silver

Jussie Smollett killed Laura Palmer

Nicolas

Wow nick mullen over here, counting out the seconds until he can cut the episode off. Its giving gay work ethic

Holy mountian

I think bad luck 13 did that too at one of their shows Barricaded the doors and started a fire hehe

justdave

🤼‍♂️

Mr. Lobotomy

great breakdown of this story

Joseph Boyle

I'm with Liz, I thought they called themselves Bosstones because they were just a band that produced boss tones. Also, Dropkick Murphys isn't ska. They do suck tho

Elsie Hupp

Regarding shooting in Chicago versus shooting in New York: I didn't know about Empire being Chicago-as-New-York, but "The Good Wife" on CBS was New-York-as-Chicago. In the case of "The Good Wife", apparently a significant factor was that the casting agency they used also did Broadway, so a number of the actors on the show were doing stage productions at the same time as the television production. Chicago does have a nationally significant theatre scene, but it's nowhere near as large as New York's. (Also I remember from when Cynthia Nixon ran against Andrew Cuomo that she credited him with introducing film-production subsidies. These sorts of subsidies vary and fluctuate wildly, and they lead to some unusual choices, such as the "21 Jump Street" reboot being filmed—but not explicitly set—in New Orleans.)

Elsie Hupp

Streeterville is immediately to the east of Chicago's flagship shopping district, so the NYC equivalent would probably be Turtle Bay. (The Viagra Triangle in Chicago is northwest of the flagship shopping district, though.) Alternately one could compare it to Battery Park City (being, as it is, built on landfill). In general the high-rise residential neighborhoods around the periphery of downtown Chicago do have a weirdly suburban feel compared to most high-rise residential neighborhoods in New York. Chicago has parking minimums, so most condo residents have cars, and there are suburban-style big-box stores within a stone's throw of 30-story condo towers. It's like a parody of Giuliani's or Bloomberg's vision of New York. (I'm from suburban Chicago; my brother lives in the Loop; I've lived in Brooklyn for seven years; and before that I lived in LA for eight years. I've been around.)

Elsie Hupp

By contrast, in NYC the people we find hanged in holding cells tend to be wealthy pedophiles with friends in high places...

Elsie Hupp

Everything north of the Tejon Pass is San Francisco, or, as I call it, Upstate California.

Elsie Hupp

Obviously (and I say this as someone from suburban Chicago), Chicago's primary defining feature is its constant overcompensation for its inferiority complex. The parts of the city that aren't being managed like Detroit have fresh annual flowerbeds and literal piped-in Muzak next to homeless panhandlers. Chicago is Guiliani's and Bloomberg's dream version of NYC.

Elsie Hupp

Scratch that. The San Fernando Valley is Upstate, too.

Dohn Jenver

gary webb was the iran contra/pentagon papers guy who died from shooting himself twice

hater

alex murdaugh episode when? it’s got abuse and drug trafficking conspiracies

Bess C

Speaking of Laquan McDonald, it was just released that Van Dyke will get early release. Feb. 3rd. 3 years 3 months total behind bars

justdave

Hella, Hella started in reno and you know it bro!

Evelyn B

so when is the chicago liveshow

Evelyn B

funny you mention this bc i live in northwest indiana and a chicago cop lives down the street from me.

Bess C

Interesting.........wonder how long they've been on the force and if they have plans to move soon or if they have a residence in the city or some shit. FAQ on CPD's website clearly states you are required to be a resident of the city of Chicago if hired. Also wouldn't be surprised if that rule is very loosely enforced and some cops have fake residences at abandoned properties on the south and west side or some shit like that

Jack Lansman

TrueAnon needs to dig deep on his parents. You must, it's who you are. There's no way a black panther could spawn such an egomaniac.

Becky Clough

Bring Nenye on to talk about this or his next press case. In no universe will he disappoint. My favorite lawyer in all the land.

Bess C

Went back to this comment section earlier today and read your reply Elsie and I've been thinking about that last sentence ever since lol. Spot on.

Floyd Hill

DM's were good in the 90's, that's about it. The band they tried to emulate then will always be better (Murphy's Law).

Floyd Hill

I've been aware of that horrid rendition-like place since a long time and I'm Canadian...I used to listen to the deconstructed ex-lib Peter B Collins (his retirement in Dec 2020 is a tragedy, thankfully he keeps his entire archive available online. He's had 4 of the NSA fives who were pre-Snowden interviewed, before 2 of them went insane (Binney, Wiebe). Russ Tice though, I wish he spoke to someone else again since his last interview in 2015, that dude dealt with Black World NSA shit, not stuff Snowden had access to, stuff a lot more black than Jussie Smollet too.

Floyd Hill

ofc patreon takes a big cut, it wouldnt be sustainable otherwise. no one twisted anybody's arm to sub to their paywalled content. people on patreon are like musicians (sometimes actual musicians, hey Chris Hannah!) or people discussing politics and rambling on a soapboax being thrown quarters, dollars (oops, I'm Canadian, anyways). I don't like everything about Brace, Liz is fine with me and I'm sure they manage to make money the social-democratic way, without big sponsorship and fat cats backing their shit, so I respect the show and the concept of patreon and its small competitor subscribestar (I wish it was bigger) or bitbacker if you play with crypto, the one podcast I pay with bitbacker, I literally support by paying less and less everytime I pay monthly. I'm sure the money they make is put to good use, aka in the US right now, staying alive cos there's no fucking jobs.

Floyd Hill

Propagandhi, the best band on earth, warned us on their first LP (which is terrible compared to what they do since the year 2001) in 1993 with Ska Sucks making fun of the Specials and "apolitical skinheads". All of those peripherally-into-punk-kids were the ones getting into emo-pop punk mixtures when it became cool to do so after 9/11 when punk-adjacent-but-annoying-unpunk-unhardcore music became commercial, it was the same ska kids who were always saying they were into punk and hardcore and listing a bunch of emocore, emo pop, pop punk bands etc. as their fav bands in the early '00s. The Bosstones cover of the almighty legendary Boston hardcore band Slapshot, "What's At Stake" is mighty fine though.

lolwuthappend

Patreon takes 5% I think, maybe slightly more with other fees. That would still prob be over $80k a month for the pod. That's a boatload of money in my book. I like them too, I'm happy for their success. I think the best way to get rich is by spreading knowledge about the depravities of the ruling class. But it kind of staggers the imagination that these commie podcasters my age are making so much damn money now.

Natalie

come to subway and get the Jussie Smollett meal, one tuna fish sandwich. only available 2-2:30am