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We wash ashore on the banks of the Dnieper with Radio War Nerd’s Mark Ames for a Special War in Ukraine????? Two Parter. In this first hour we detail Ukraine’s complicated road to independence, the various oligarchs, gangsters and western leaders jostling for control and the bloody coup that set the stage for todays conflict.

Ep with Moss Robeson about Ukraine: https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-101-oun-41883859

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Sara Z.

Kinda funny to make a point by calling it “Lvov” and in the next sentence stating that it’s historically a Jewish and Polish city… refer to it as Lwow/Lemberik then, sex tourist! Ain’t nobody calling that shit “”Lvov”” 😭

Sara Z.

Also what is an “ethnic Russian speaker” 😭😭😭 some of the most insane Ukrainian nationalists are Russian speaking

Benjin

M 7 10mm. ...7 .

Benjin

V . o

Carlo Reyna

Mark’s voice sounds like Roy Casagranda

Josh

Thanks, I’ve been wondering what the hell is happening in Ukraine

Olivia D

Question four years after this ep aired: Can someone tell me what Brace says at 7:28 - right after Ames finishes his sentence about the Poles and Jews were exterminated by nazis and Ukrainian nationalists?

Charliemars

Dropped right as I'm getting ready for work, what a nice feeling.

Jack kessler

Slava TrueAnon! Svabodnayo radio nasvegda!

Graham Hoese

Yo thank you, I needed an episode today <3

swervegriffin

Did brace ever watch Richard Jewell?

Evan Scott

my supervisor asked me to go out on a call as soon as i got in this morning denying me my union mandated two hours of sitting at my desk and 'reading emails' to start the day off so thanks for this

Scott

Finally you guys bring on Ames Tha God, I appreciate this very much bros

Adam Jung

Best cold open in a minute

no

Love a little dezinformatsiya with my coffee ☕😌

orc

What is this, a crossover episode?

Patrick McAuliffe

Dang, y’all are like super smaht. Great couple episodes though. I’ve been needing my fix!

Peter Annee

I think there was an earlier episode discussing Euromaiden, does anyone remember which one?

Jack kessler

What did he mean at 27:35 “in those countries”? Like the former Soviet Union? I’m unfamiliar with that argument about civil society. Or was he referring to the use of “civil society” or claiming to know the “will of the people” via currents in civil society as a pretext or justification for intervention when real civil society has been (to use a soviet term) expropriated? I don’t disagree that civil society is part of governance. In spacial terms it occupies much of the state-society relationship in countries with both liberal and illiberal societies. But he said it like it was a bad thing. Like it’s inherently some sort of ruse.

Nicolas

Had to think of Liz when i saw that bitch Anne Applebaum on german primetime television talk about Putin yesterday on a talkshow. Too bad they didnt ask her about her russia gate faceplants throughout the last years.

Fuji Prince

I will not stand for this U2 slander

ClownBabee24

The funniest thing about this is all the pro-Ukraine invasion progressives and liberals ive been seeing recently. Nobody has learned anything from the last two decades of permanent war. I also wanna add to Liz's point on the power of the US propaganda machine. I think its greatest strength is to be so spectacularly wrong like it was in the Middle East, and be able to pivot to another conflict and still string along the same rubes.

Olen Koira

did Mark Ames just plug Vladislav Sukov???👀

Mark Owen

Civil society! I remember when they rolled that out as a talking point.

cwen

Mark Ames🙄 who's next, yasha Levine?

_tarrvis

I discovered radio war nerd because of this podcast and it's one of my favorites now. So excited to see them back

J HUTCH

What book about hooligans?

j

Hey brace what is the Emory style book you mention at 8 minutes?

Spoils

Men on the left hey can’t resist leering at ol Yulia

Nikodem dyzmy

that same deindustrialization and privatization happened in Poland too (thanks to anne applebaum and her crew). its now just a wasteland of big western corps and fast food chains 🙄

absoluteboi

please have abby martin back on :pray:

someperson

small correction - Chrystia Freeland is no longer Canada's foreign minister, she got promoted to deputy prime minister AND minister of finance. That said Canada's policy of intervention in Ukraine to support Ukrainain "nationalists" has remained exactly the same.

Mike Malloy

Hmmm departing from the normal production schedule with an urgent Ukraine episode...seems like something a deep state-funded podcast might do idk

justdave

White people arguing about who/what is white is so funny

justdave

As one of only three men in the Belden harem (we do the heavy lifting, whip work, stand around in oil with palm fronds), I can say there is no sex, in fact there is almost nothing 'sexual' that happens- pretty easy job actually

otis

@ 7:24, Liz said there would be links

Alexander Cobb

Thank you guys for the wonderful content.

K

45:00 Let's not make fun of corn too much. Mark is good to point out the interest in arable land. If Putin is aware of ecological collapse possibilities, Ukrainian black-soil could become a crucial asset amidst topsoil depletion, decreasing fertilizer manufacturing viability, extreme weather, etc. But who knows how likely these things are or whether Putin is considering them.

Monica

Which TA episode did Mark say discussed the earlier history of Ukraine? I couldn't quite make out

Travis Dalenberg

3 hrs? Shut the fuck up. I just worked 8. I don't care but what's with podcasters saying they hate their fans, don't care if people cancel subscriptions, or find it such a burden to engage with people when they are extremely well paid? It's ridiculous but still entertaining.

Steven P Schiesser

Think tanks are more dangerous than military tanks because people are so distracted and believe the western propaganda

SammyG

Great ep

justdave

Fuk you Liz, fight me! We have death and injury waivers at the mustang ranch I work on for the volunteers, they'd totally work in a 'Kumatay' situation. Anytime chica!

michaelkuca

liz brace is right us poles are dumb lol but not bad carpenters

Rhod

That hit the spot.

Daniel Petrovic

That Canadian guy was a lecturer in the military college in Ottawa

justdave

*making armpit fart noises with my hands as I make my eyes crossed* that's polish for - I love you guys

jeff

brazil should not be your example for radical football hooliganism… maybe try argentina where away fans are banned and players get pepper sprayed or turkey where fans fire literal rockets. Or maybe Italy where they’re out there doing nazi salutes

gen~

ukraine, known for its corn and runes...

prance rasner

What’s this book on football hooliganism ?

Shiv

lots of language rights deprivation in the history of the ol’ US of A with indigenous language speakers, Spanish speakers (on CA ballots in my lifetime) and more

Rarmeme

is this the my big fat greek wedding guy? uncanny

Jack Lansman

No cold open... as you cold open... is cold open... THANK YOU

Mostly__Sunny

Go and listen to the series Mark did on Yeltsin and the shelling of the parliament

Olena

Your treatment of the topic of Ukrainian nationalism was extremely jarring and ignorant. This and part II was a painful listen.

Ian Haave

Good related reading?

Andy

I love when, five minutes in, your guest adds the caveat “I’m no Ukrainian expert.” Great work guys!

J fraser cartwright

Insightful, witty, & funny(as needed). So difficult to hear another side of things. Thank you!