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With Brace on the lam and calling in from an undisclosed location, Liz talks to Noah Kulwin, co-host of the podcast Blowback. They discuss Elon Musk's recent bid to take Twitter private, the Elon circus, and the Pump 'N Dump aspirations of web3 futurist investors. Also: whats up with Madison Cawthorne’s thrusting?

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K

gen~

Hiii.

meyer

third?

tMinozaJ

An episode for my birthday? From my two real life best friends Liz and Brace??

meyer

i live in nc and have been hoping you would talk about cawthorn lol

Sander Emerick

ur in her dms im in her ring cam we are not the same

texas_tankie

I lol'd when Liz was talking about pressing 0 repeatedly to shortcut hold times. I did that too. They shut us down, Liz!

Maura Willey

look up the story of how they met, it's insanely spooky

Jake Scalia

It’s the GOP blackmailing Madison not the democrats. It’s because of his cocaine and orgies statement

em

Batman and Pangolin, perfect 😆

Lucas

Communism when😭

Regan

I'm guessing Brace is in Ukraine working for the CIA again

BruceInAdelaide

if black hammer is not an "op", that is what an "op" looks like!

Andrew Irwin

Ship my bush did 9/11 tee shirt or I will me too all three of you

Graham Hoese

That's what I heard first but now I've heard it's the other way so I have no idea what to believe 🤷

Graham Hoese

But that definitely makes sense

Graham Hoese

You don't have to say my name on the show but if you just say it in private, that would mean a lot to me <3

kenton

the true take is always the offhand joke

orc

he said somewhere hot, maybe Syria?

NYCM&AHole

Lol it’s called a breakup fee, Liz

NYCM&AHole

It’s part of the purchase documentation

Junior Carmichael

Really looking forward to Brace recording a podcast from the Azovstal tunnels.

Patrick Cleary

I bet Brace is in Chiapas interviewing North America’s second-most prominent Maoist (after Brace), SupMarcos.

Oliver Crane

have fun on birthright Brace

Lionel Boyd Johnson

I heard Brace eloped with Cawthorn's ex- wife and they're honeymooning on Little St. James

CJ

Noah is the only person i can listen to talk about tech for this long. He’s very very good at explaining things. Also, he likes Pile which is unrelated but more people should like them.

Jake Zydek

Oooh, puttin chapo on hold for this one

Evan Scott

the drop after Liz said "vaporwave" scared the shit out of me. I jumped at my desk

Aaron Christmas

I hear you loud and clear, Brace. Dr. [redacted] is a bounty

Ian

Brace please wear sunscreen!

Andrew

Cute how Liz pretended to have not seen the vid

AKorgar

Maoist birthright. Yan'an

AKorgar

If Maryland was a woman, she would have crabs

AKorgar

YC getting the jump scares on us

Migz

A man after my own heart with the Marie Davidson samples

Lowell Phillips

To be fair it does blow me away that it took two years to hear "Batman and Pangolin".

Andrew Irwin

If you don’t ship my bush did 9/11 shirt by the end of NEXT week, I will metoo yung chomsky

K

Nick Mullen said 'Madison Cawthorn' sounds like the name of a southern blonde pornstar with big titties. I honestly thought the same thing when I first heard the dude's name.

Mateo

Brace joined the Shining Path in Peru 🤭

Derwood

Noah Is so great he should start some kinda podcast of his own

Derwood

Stav said that on Chapo a while back, did Nick also say it?

Cameron Young

Glorified AAU team ooooh Liz you wild for that one

5k Race Warrior

Defending Pedro Castillo's master's thesis with extreme prejudice.

Ethan

Brace you need to become a Memphis grizzlies fan immediately

TangiePower

“It was very easy to blow my mind.” He just like me fr

Isaiah C

he joined the reddit foreign legion in ukraine

Derwood

“Fuckcoin” is that a fuckin Conner O’Malley reference?

Alice Bennett

The last two episodes have been bugged on mobile and the scrub bar doesn’t make it to the end of the episode

otis

Is Brace fighting ISIS again?

TrueAnonPod

Try downloading the file or using the RSS feed to listen in another player

Danny

literally black hammer is on the corner near my house all the time like “we’re collecting money for the homeless” lol

Oatmeal

Trueanon has issued a Franczak Fatwa against dirty Dillon Brooks, will you answer the call?

Sam

I don't know, that might have some kind of unintended repercussions, some kind of Blowback, if you will.

carl

nice--coindexter got covid

Gillian

for SURE brace is in the philippines theyre abt to have an election 👁

Eoghan Flanagan

Can we please keep in mind that Twitter is a global platform? So all this stuff about "Well the first amendment" and "yeah section 123" it really doesn't mean anything in terms of FREE SPEECH as a capital letters concept

John

I think brace is doing something with andrew callaghan. Wherever that is i don’t know !!

DumbDumDumbDumb

Sure but have you considered: Musk fans are braindead

HATERSLAYER420

i hope so, andrews great and i feel like him and brace get along real well. gonna go listen to that Q conference episode again now.

triplevalaska

Did I not need to hate Steph enough now he is hawking crypto. Jaa

J P 3

I assume that Musk is buying Twitter for reasons that are similar to Bezos buying the Washington Post (who also took the company private). e.g. media companies are one way that rich people exert more power and influence. If he takes it private too, there is less disclosure and oversight. The user data may end up being valuable as well. What would prevent Musk from using the platform as well to promote his own brand and products, while amplifying negative information about his competitors?

gene82

I like this podcast when I’m wasted cus I smash all the clay in my house

JKEN

I literally listened to this episode while wearing a fanny pack around my waist. (Holding my podcast listening device)

Alec

Why is brace in Tijuana?

Zachary Sloan

Good episode, but I've noticed from both this and past podcast appearances that Noah Kulwin seems to actually buy into the idea that Musk is some sort of talented visionary (even if he's a bad/erratic person) and generally buys into some tech hype stuff (which isn't that surprising given his past career as a tech journo). A good example is the old Chapo episode where he talks about self-driving (which, while absolutely a real technology, isn't actually anywhere vaguely close to being used by regular people and might not ever be; everyone, including the people working on self-driving, just have an incentive to act like it's perpetually "just around the corner"). Noah Kulwin is cool and Blowback is possibly the best podcast ever, so I don't want this to sound like any sort of condemnation; people buying into tech industry hype - which includes the idea of Musk being a talented engineer/visionary - is just a pet peeve of mine. With Musk specifically it feels like I'm going insane, because it could not possibly be more obvious that Musk has virtually no actual technical skill. He is very-much a Trump-like figure who only has a sort of "low business cunning."

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2026-09-09 19:00 u have a collect call from THIS DICK
2022-05-09 03:24

Ellie Voyyd ⚧️

machine learning is so fucking stupid... you arent making machines better your just making humans worse

Titivilis

Given where people end up with it, probably shouldn't refer to it as "low" business cunning. Somehow becoming a lynchpin of American finance is an incredible achievement, shouldn't even be possible, really. It's genius the same way getting rich off of selfies and a sex tape is genius.

Titivilis

The reason why our futurist overlords are all charlatans is that the idea of the future most people have is incredibly fake, and also one of the most deeply held conceits of American culture, so it's avatars are con artists by logical necessity. It's really hard to explain to your standard chud that pixel count isn't actually a yard stick of technological progress.

Lionel Boyd Johnson

His pronunciation of multiple words is hilarious, but "Tezzzla" takes the cake

Lulu

Liz, Im begging for a Warriors playoff pod

joseph

section 230? more like section tooth hurty

Ian H

Sorry, just listened to the outro and have to add this quote from my state's anthem: "She breathes, She burns, She'll come, She'll come, Maryland my Maryland!"

Scooby

Booooo

George P

can us paypigs get a markets update episode with Liz and Alexandra Skaggs?

Ansef

Where the fuck is the emergency crypto crash pod. I'm in the process of writing a strongly worded email to Yung Chomsky for failure to capitalize on the latest circus.

Mateo

Brace is partaking in Protracted Peoples Warfare in Peru with the Shining Path

K

Oh shit you're right it was Stavvy Baby

triplevalaska

Love your potcast, hate gsw. I'm from Memphis. Staples center sucks

Kate Baldwin

While baby Brace is abroad you should talk basketball playoffs and fashion.