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A DA accused of ritualistic sexual abuse and cannibalism. A sheriff who damns the law. A sex offender dead and reborn as a porcine professor in the UK. In this episode, we solve Utah.

(Editor's note: The podcast Brace forgot to name is BYMPodcast)

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Sneakaboard

I dunno mate both my parents are geordies but I still mispronounce both occasionally, yanks can't help it sometimes.

ChelseOrElse

This series of episodes and the sf dog attack series are some of the wildest rides of my life

Peanut Horse

This is easily the craziest Truanon saga lmao from the names to the locations to the topics, all for Nicolas Toasi to dm brace is just insane

Watermane

that sounds good, I'll check it out rn

Watermane

Glass gau to the polls

Olivia

“That AI thing where people get photos generated”

Josh

If the Utahns want to have a stupid ass demonym like “Utahn”, then we gotta make sure we don’t give them the grace of adding the extra syllable in there for them. Keep it at two syllables; just add an “n” sound to the end of the state name. If they want to have three syllables and be called Utah-an, then they gotta change their fucking name.

PACMKEInk

San Fran natives being very confused about needing licenses/tags to hunt tracks.

Flesh Colored Subaru

Everyone below write a comment less than 50 words challenge 2022

Emioly

“Just like my pioneer ancestors, I'm trying to blaze a new trail”

Mads

I’m a leftist I’m incapable of writing anything that’s less than 50 words

Heavenly Father69

In still pissed about that wackass clueless Depp episode. I'll listen to this one and consider...

Natty

I'm from Utah. It is a deeply strange place.

Olen Koira

Mormon Ritual Abuse has a long and sordid history, anything involving these creeps is more than plausible

William

Mormons taking over the CIA, Christian right wingers taking over the Armed Forces - who will win the battle for the deep state?

Quincy Judd

Exmormon here, this is not the place!

Louie Van Patten

thank you for reminding me to use my hongo killer

TrueAnonPod

I agree it’s a normal thing that everyone does

justdave

I'm jus sittin here on my property in a bollo tie and my hair greased back as I watch my herd of sister wives do chores in their floor legth dresses and those weird pompadores they wear, thinkin, 'brace and Liz, if you come for my way of life, you better come pack'n' *chch* (trueanon sound)

ptime

soaking is exactly as real as the knockout game

sir peepus

PissPigGranddad. put some respect on the name, bitch

justdave

Gross but true fact, Mormons and Native Americans weirdly get along and like eachother

hater

When you take cheap shots, always expect a hangover

justdave

We're all friends here people were not kink shaming, we're all jus havin a laugh at the evil sorceries that somehow govern this plain of reality- which is why I know your all cool with me dm ing you for feet stuff, thanks everybody who sent pics for being supportive! If you haven't gotten a message I just haven't gotten to ya yet ✌️✌️ (also I have two left hands)

Noah Cutts

Married to a former Mormon, can confirm all male Mormons have a doughy face based on in-laws I’ve met.

justdave

Pretendians are such a problem in the native community (white, black, even asian!) That growing up my native friends, AND their parents would die laughing when I did my bullshit white guy indian voice 'ihaav spoken, the wind teaches aahhl'

Noah Cutts

This is completely false and something a Mormon person lacking self awareness probably told you. The Mormon settlers were as awful to Natives as the rest of us white settlers and the native people have not forgotten.

Noah Cutts

Counterpoint: the concept of soaking is funny and okay to laugh at.

Degrassi Knoll

My favorite suggestion ever (I think i heard on CTH: Soaking, then skydiving for max thrust while retaining God's favor.

Bobby Volcano

City kids, there are a lot of situations where you can poach deer even during deer season. 🦌 On private property for starters, like if you're sitting in the bed of a moving truck cruising around the neighborhood shooting into people's yards. Or just trespassing on foot.

TrueAnonPod

It’s the one by my ear the doctors are always just like yeah it’s fine, it’s only a little swollen

justdave

Were I live, they're all right wingers

Héctor

this was clásico at its finest 🤌

Kristen

hearing yung Chomsky chuckle really makes my day

justdave

My grandfather HATED Natives, not because of racism (I mean he was a rascist) but because they got an early start to the season, and he couldn't trespass on indian land (my mother has an actual eagle feather from the tribal counsel for her charity, not money, charity, so she can go anywhere she wants)

The Pissler

Ex-Mormon living in Utah and I think that is lacking a LOT of context to the point that f being functionally useless

The Pissler

Thank you for finally centering Mormon voices

Leilani Doneux

That title is the funniest fucking thing I've ever heard.

justdave

The Mormons paid those Ute ta rustle them square heads

Graham Hoese

Every time I see a mormon parallel story I cringe, especially when it's related to Utah. I want to clarify that Utah mormons are a different breed than the rest of us. They have been born into and raised in a completely different culture. I get when people are put off by Utah mormons or those who have transplanted out of Utah. Half of them have never met someone who drinks coffee, of course they're weird. I'm a member who grew up an hour from our closest church and in Catholic country, I grew up surrounded by a culture of alcoholism and fish fry's lol. The point is, the Utah culture is not the church or the doctrine that it teaches, as much as my fellow members living in a cultural bubble might think so.

justdave

People who do medicine are touched by the divine

TrueAnonPod

Realize I accidentally call Provo “Provo Canyon” in the ep because since childhood Provo has been associated w Provo Canyon

Treppy

y’all should check out Under the Banner of heaven on prime video i think. very good show and some of the historical shit mentioned in this ep is portrayed in the show. staring andrew garfield.

justdave

Indoor basketball, on carpet

Brian Long

For real with the names.

Graham Hoese

I can promise you that any member who believes they can "loop-hole" God, is uniquely delusional, and 99.9% of the church has never heard of "Soaking"

Brian Long

Anytime YC happens it warms my heart

Yup

Make Brigham Hung University sweaters plse

caroline

last night i had a dream the real brace died in 2018 and liz was running some kind of stolen identity operation. then when she was found out, she just claimed he died fighting in ukraine. although after hearing the part in this ep about faking brace’s death, i think it might be more like a prophecy.

The Pissler

Non-Utah Mormon cope. Mormonism is extremely weird even if you live outside of Utah

Graham Hoese

I'm sorry you feel that way Devin lol

DoctorShields

You guys should put Kanakuk Kamps on that list of shows to do eventually someday maybe

phil

before i start this if this is at ALL related to that crazy 4chan thread from years ago where there was like a creepy dungeon vibe daycare center in SLC i'll have an aneurysm

justdave

Alright graham, explain king David, the original gamesman

justdave

I'll still be allowed on the space ship though, right?

justdave

To imply that all native Americans are quietly seething in rage of their conquered land is the definition of white man's burden, the vast majority of people I meet (who actually do shit like run smoke stores, fireworks stands, and that other 'rascist' shit like run horses for meat to Mexico) have a pretty 'who cares' attitude about racial revenge, they like ATVs and drinking in backyards, like basically everybody.

justdave

For great anti imperialist actual native art, look up Jack Mallote, he's a local hero

ptime

David took Bathsheba to Las Vegas for a 24 hour marriage-divorce to fuck her sinlessly

Gibbs fka Leroy

fun fact; there's actually a Boys Town in Rhode Island. It's directly across the street from a Raytheon missile dev lab. Happened to drive thru that area twice while listening to this episode today.

Graham Hoese

I think you're thinking of scientologist or Heavens gate brother lol

Arjun Jayaraman

I have no idea what's going on in this story. Seems like they had a good time making this episode though. Five stars.

Blinky Palermo

Good thing nobody gives a fuck what you think

Kamran Husain

i volunteer for a decade in the trueanon underground

James Whale

This is some serious fucking cohen brothers shit right here

Eddie Sanchez

10/10 to Chomsky for using the LA Noire theme. Also wow this comment thread is totally normal and not weird at all.

malpertuis

THE BIT AT THE END ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Matthew Osborn

Not only she’s weird shit happen in Utah, all of their alcohol is under 5%. Also I second the Brigham Hung merch.

tMinozaJ

Imagine losing your whole career for some Utah Jazz tickets

orc

I know Cary Fukunaga was a hack!

Kevin M

Y.C. with the LA Noire menu music 😅

Monica

Obsessed with Liz's pronunciation of Scottish cities

bugsick

GlassGow and Edinburg, classic

Sheep

The storm is coming. Utahans are in control. The secret underground Mormon sex cult is being uncovered AS WE SPEAK.

TrueAnonPod

This is a developing story as Rossi’s now in the twitter mentions…and getting the Documents asap

a clash of purple

I think on RWN John Dolan said (or quoted, whatever) once that victims of atrocities rarely carry a grudge, because it's too heavy a weight to bear. In fact, it's the people who perpetrate atrocities who tend to resent those they victimized, no matter how little sense that makes.

Bulfinchie

LMAO, I just wrapped a pilot that Nafsika Antypas paid for out of pocket. What a small world.

Isaiah C

Idk what's going on but I have decided that they did the crimes, my opinion will not change

riley bowers

Ima be honest I’m still confused but it is a wild ride lol

Emioly

Mormon Gun Kelly

Graham Hoese

Also a lot of people aren't aware of this, the whole reason Mormons ended up in Utah is because they tried to stay in Missouri, but the governor signed an extermination order against Mormons, so y'know kind of had to dip out of there. Google Mormon Extermination Act, wild stuff.

syd

I’m on adderall and I’m still only partially following who is who here, I need to create some kind of chart for this

syd

alternatively I could just take more adderall

Spencer McKee

This is so insane. Love a good trueanon deep rabbithole

Sam G

I'm too dumb to follow along, I need a visual aid.

J T

I recently went to the LDS church in DC. Creepy mix of hotel and church. No windows, all the plants are fake, and all the paintings are actually digital prints. Children put covers on our shoes as we entered. We were shown “instruction rooms” and “sealing rooms” that all looked bland and corporate. There was a small pool atop a circle of white bull sculptures for baptisms. Mormonism is truly the most American religion.

Ian. Ingraham

mormon face is 100% real. Wide brow is a characteristic.

G. Gordon Litty

One of my favorite gun facts is that there’s a college called Dixie State University in Utah

Brendon Crave

I concur with Graham. I was raised in the faith outside Utah, still actively practising, and I have always felt out of place in Utah. But Devin's also got a point. It is sort of cope to blame the weirdness on Utah culture alone, which often discounts the problematic parts of the Church and culture that I agree do exist. But religion is also a personal thing for everyone and I know where Graham is coming from as I've also had to spend half my life convincing people I'm not some sort of lizard person. David, different thing, but yes. Devin, religion is weird so what. Most of us are just trying to live good lives and do good things. Some find the answers from Marx, others from Christ, and still others from both. Incidentally, BYU is where I was actually exposed to positive takes on Marxism and eventually got into left-wing politics.

Graham Hoese

Thanks for your thoughtful take Brendon. You're definitely right, as a leftist member I've always felt alienated by the conservative culture surrounding the church and I guess I associate Utah Mormons with more of that conservatism, whereas where I am from, There is a healthier amount of leftist or at least liberal members. For me there isn't a contradiction between leftist ideals and the doctrine of the church, and I guess I get obsessive about wanting people to understand that not every member is a CIA asset :/ Edit: yeah I am coping, we are pretty weird here too but I'm still blaming all the members west of the Rockies on the bad rep 😅

Josh Woods

I was sent to northern Utah on my mission. really weird time in my life.

Brendon Crave

Oh yeah dude Utah is definitely on its own level. But I do want to say that it's also full of super cool people with an active left-wing community and some of the realest punx I've ever known.

Shiv

+1 Brace! pls send Michelle a pic xx

Alias Dan Davis

OK. I enjoyed this episode at least as much as the one about the "murder by presa canario dogs" thing. Still, I have no fucking idea what it was about. This was a complete fever dream - culminating with them singing "Good Vibrations"? I'm glad I'm not the only one that has no idea what I just listened to, but still loved it. Whatever this was, it's amazing. Also, Yung Chomsky is a master. If there was a Yung Chomsky/Chris Wade cage match, I'm putting all my $$$ on YC.

Shiv

i very much second desiring of a visual aid despite my stim rx

Zachary Bills

I think the soaking stuff is an urban legend/ troll that nobody actually does. Anybody who is willing to go that far would just have sex. Brace should be more skeptical of this stuff because he actually had sex with a Mormon girl. That said I was a non-Utah Mormon and I'm sure that everything is more deranged and bizarre over there.

David shamie

I think you guys should do some sort of overview early in the episode because this was incredibly hard to follow

TrueAnonPod

got dm confirmation from someone who, as a young Mormon, got caught soaking. It’s real

HATERSLAYER420

i just watched an interview with this fucking psycho. at one point, the interviewer asks if he can see his left forearm to see if there's a tattoo. nicholas arhur knight rossi alahvedian svengali responds with "im honestly too exhausted". too exhausted to pull his sleeve up. shortly after, he asks the interviewer if he can "attempt to stand" to show that he is wheel-chair bound, which he then does. my man, you don't get to say youre too exhausted to roll your sleeve up and then immediately attempt to do the most exhausting thing possible. how the fuck has he gotten this far? does his wife legit believe him or is she in on it? what the fuck is going on lmfao the interview: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-60676092

justdave

What's their name?

Angel Khaosa (edited)

Comment edits

2026-09-09 19:00 Born and raised Utah-n here, my mother was a second-wife to a man 20 years her senior when she was 16 and my uncle is a big-wig-plyg with three wives and a best-seller book and has been on several tv shows like Oprah, Dr. Phil, and is a big business man/political guy who literally got polygamy decriminalized a couple years ago. Lol Utah sucks and it's creepy and weird. Joseph Smith was the highest level of Free Mason one could get to, and they absolutely culture-vulture every single sacred thing. They do call non-mormons gentiles, and we even have there's a lot of creepy shit here, and it goes into all sorts of weird places. Also, the adoption of Native American rituals is nothing foreign to polygamy, my extended family goes to Columbia all the time to do Ayuahuasca and all sorts of other shit.
2022-06-14 21:05

Marsha Pimentel

In short, never come to Utah. The mountains are gorgeous though.

justdave

-dontyoudaresaymymom

Katerina

My God! (Brace voice)

Katie Ettl

The ending was so sweet

JD Sanchez

If anyone is interested, earlier this month the podcast Swindled released an episode about Nick Rossi and his fake death attempt. I haven’t listened to it yet but I’ve listened to other episodes of this show and it’s generally pretty good. Ep title is “the crusader” in reference to his foster children “activism”

Lionel Boyd Johnson

But Crave, have you convinced YOURSELF that you're not a weird lizard person? Deception starts at home, my man. True Man in the Mirror moment, queue the Michael Jackson... I'm pulling for you bro

NigelBOpinion

Sorry if someone pointed this out already but there is a part of Utah called "Utah's Dixie" and a state university named after it

Shiv

thanks, I am definitely interested. he’s so clearly alive!!

Steev Hise

This ep is dizzying.

BB

Yeah, this ain’t it. I felt the same way till I left the church a few years ago. The actual doctrine is what breeds weird ass people that do weird ass shit that makes the culture what it is. Utah is over saturated with it, obviously. But my wards in California and Arizona were filled with weird freaks too. Maybe one day you’ll give up on trying to make it all make sense like I did 😂

Graham Hoese

I'm sorry you feel that way my man, regardless of what you believe I'm living a happy life and my religious beliefs don't keep me from doing that and still advocating for my leftist ideals. ♥️

DH

This was peak trueanon performance. Pynchonian networks, demonic sex pests, ratfucking, crooked DAs, fake deaths, peyote, SOAKING, and many gags, goofs, and laughs along the way

Fred

The voice was insane, fake ass English accent

Emma

Can anyone give me the list of clasico style story episodes...I need to get through the back catalogue

Char Kelly

Brace explaining soaking over and over again was EVERYTHING 🤣💅🤣💅🤣

justdave

Also what the fuck do you mean by 'us' white woman

George P

108 and 110 on the San Fran dogfucking couple are in this same mold and are incredible.

GD

Jesus they ended the episode with that extremely creepy lens on The Beach Boys and now I’m listening to them, as I enjoy their music, and I can’t stop picking up school shooter vibes ☠️ Pet Sounds album, Don’t Worry Baby, In My Room. I know Brian suffered a lot of mental illness but they really put a dark lens on for that lol

WHJ

Well first they went to Illinois and set up the city of Nauvoo. And then shit went wrong there which ended in the assassination of Joseph Smith which caused an insane power struggle within the church. And then they went to Utah

WHJ

They committed genocide against the Timpanogos. Also look up the Black Hawk war in Utah

WHJ

Same. This place has cursed me with intense emotional trauma

WHJ

Hi Nathaniel

justdave

The tribes of North America, to a person, were warrior cultures. They participated in genocides. It is improper and hateful to infer an entire peoples identity through their torture, this what I learned playing native basketball as a kid

justdave

Also tall men don't mean shit

Shiv

don't forget the Charles Manson connection!

Shiv

& the fact that one could, unexpectedly, play a drinking game wherein one takes a sip for each mention of Machine Gun Kelly?!?

justdave

I wish I fukn mormon *kicks can down lonely dirt road*

Natty

Hi bb, hope you're doing very well

Bingo Bongo

you're not alone brace. my own roommate was fully convinced women have a prostate and as a last got ya! asked me with much passion "if they don't then why do they enjoy anal so much!?"

HATERSLAYER420

im listening to it now, 30 minutes in. the host keeps reading from nicholas' own writing and oh my god is it complete self indulgent dogshit. it's awful what he (allegedly (but likely)) went through but what an incredibly unsympathetic person. a piece of shit and, even worse, cringe!

HATERSLAYER420

been looking into nicholas rossi and i dont know if ive ever hated someone this much

Starry Pr1nce

Liz too pure to already know what soaking is despite how hilarious it is

HATERSLAYER420

wikifreak and the recent shrimp boy episode as well as the ones george mentioned

justdave

The ones on colognia dignidad with the effervescent michael judge are really wonderful

JV

really love being able to hear yung chomsky's lols on this one

Mackenzie

yc sweet perfect angel giggles 👼🏻

danny

lol nice la noire

Treppy

yes, hulu sorry

c quinn

was going insane trying to figure out why i recognized that, thank you

Jake

44:48 Brace goes into Mikey Miles erghhh mode

Char Kelly

I listened to this episode two times to try and understand what was happening, but I was still SO CONFUSED that I watched all 8 hours of Under the Banner of Heaven to try and understand. Thank you to the commenter who suggested it, unclear how accurate it but was good show

lyz olko

Read Under the Banner of Heaven it's incredible. (I don't have Hulu and haven't seen the show yet but the book is really really good)

Tmoney

I’m watching the show right now. It’s very good. But after I saw Silence, I was down for anything Andrew Garfield touched

lyz olko

I should subscribe to Hulu for a month to watch it. I have heard the series is incredible.

Joel

edin-burg? glas-gau? come on now liz