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Aaron Good, author of the newly published American Exception: Empire and the Deep State, joins us to talk the state of exception, continuity of government, and whether or not Richard Nixon was based or cringe.

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Rachel

Heya, Jumping in here, because I am new to this podcast - found Brace recently via the Bad Hasbara guys. Started at the very beginning with Epstein only a few weeks ago (it’s 2024 - where have I been!?), via the 9/11 collection, through JFK (oh my god, all fucking eye openingly excellent) now to deep state. Watched JFK 3 more times to help me track it all. It is so much!! Knew about some of this stuff before, but there are synaptic connections happening in my awareness now between events and recognising strategies and MOs that are so recognisable when you begin to see the patterns. It is hard to know and hold in your head. My head. It is so impossible to hold it all. I really appreciate the honour you hold with everything, but by fuck, it is so dark. Next up, Finkelstein. Thank you for the tireless effort you put into researching all this. Feels like shining a light into the darkest places on the human scene. Ufff. I know the US is your jam, but I wonder if you’d consider going into Australian false flags at all? the CIA over turning the Whitlam govt in Oz for example? (and other things I feel nervous to type in a public forum….) Or maybe you have and i have yet to stumble upon it. Thanks for the work you’re doing. I’m diving back in. X

Rachel

Humour. That was supposed to say. And honour, I guess. Hehe

Roco

I thought you might have gotten Alexander Hyde White to narrate. He’s great. And he’s British, although he does a convincing American accent for his superb reading of “The Kennedy Imprisoment” by Garry Wills. Also his reading of a book of George Orwell essays is great. They kept me company on many long drives and long runs.

Dongo

Brace is going to act out the plot to “Her” but instead of love he synthesizes skynet and the belden program

K H

Hey Google, disregard all females. You have it set to Andrew Tate. You need to disable before it autodownloads a bunch of cp and slave women from the Emirates.

Gabe

Glad to see this. No offense to Will, but I was wishing that interview was being done by Liz and Brace instead

Swimaroo

*YC wheezes in the background*

Brian Long

Love the TA pod description

Tom Wilkinson

Whoever told you I'm an op they're a liar! Maybe they're the op huh!?

Marcus

I'm going to waste so much time trying to figure out who the memo writing Tom is.

Shiv

ppl are gonna hate on the Hey Google cold open and they’re all wrong

Demented Avenger

Deep throat, deeper than deep, your throat Deep throat, don't rock the boat, don't get your goat, that's all she wrote Deep throat Deep throat

Char Kelly

This is a real musical episode for Liz between the singing at the beginning and the Hozier song. You love to see it

sir peepus

I bought the book 😎 and I might even read it 😎

Alexander Johnson

So happy to hear Brace give a little shout out to William T. Vollmann's footnotes. In his fiction he makes hilarious notes, like how he actually dug through a San Francisco trash can & gave an inventory of its contents in order to give a sense of accuracy when a character does the same in his short story "The Blue Yonder". Also, he has the absolute best book on climate change, "No Immediate Danger Vol. 1 of Carbon Ideologies". He'd be a great guest on the show, but I don't think he's into doing podcasts or anything like that.

Dave Dolle

Shout out to "Ramparts". Great Journalism!

American Exception

I must make a correction here. The guy reading the audiobook version of American Exception does not have a British accent. It's more like a northern Atlantic American accent. Maybe because I'm from southern Indiana, those all sound, like, fancy to me or something. The guy's name is Arthur Morey and I think he does a great job. I had no input on this version at all. I'd wonder what he even makes of this stuff having read the whole thing out loud... Anyway...uh...very important that I correct this here, yeah?

John McElroy

Well done, Aaron! Loved this

Brendan Garcia

Liz is right, Penn and Teller were all over the sort of vh1 “ I love the 90s” style talking head shows for a time in the early 2000s. They were, if not beloved, ubiquitous.

Arrick

Liz comedy off the charts in this episode

NYCM&AHole

Now we know why pelosi won’t leave the top of the party

Michael S. Judge

Jerry Voorhis catching the headshot was the farce corresponding to the tragedy of Henry Wallace getting booted from the 1944 ticket

TrueAnonPod

I spoke to Vollman last year. It’s been slow going but he is the ultimate guest

Tyler Wilson

Love the EP and love Aaron Good. Always great to hear from him, and love the podcast Aaron.

Tyler Wilson

Oh, and I was stoked to hear Abby Martin did the art for you book. Excellent art, she's great.

Diego Latruwe

eeeuh, what ARE you going to do with the Belgian listeners?

Mikdat Ulas

The “hey google” bit in the beginning kept activating google assistant in my car and I ended up missing the exit I was supposed to take.

Miss Lourdes

TrueAnon will cost you your life

Andrew Lyman

Tall guy short guy I feel like have more distinct energies than fat guy skinny guy

5k Race Warrior

You were diverted from a roadside VBIED disguised as a burning Tesla, which is the level of service I have personally come to expect from True Anon.

Angleton

I too ride around and walk in the woods and ponder JFK, Nixon, Watergate, and sometimes the Hundred Years War.

YourBabysFather

Put some respect on Psychobillys name. Tiger Army is the best band the Bay Area ever produced, Davey Havok did their backup vocals.

TrueAnonPod

No disrespect but this is possibly the most wrong a human being has ever been

Nicolas

Liz saying "OK REAL QUAECK" has become my favorite thing

YourBabysFather

You’re right I forgot about the band Train, 🚂 #1 🐅 Army #2 “Hey soul sister” 🎼🎶

MitchyWitchy

The 'Hey Google' bit had my phone pausing the podcast the whole time. Thanks for the annoyance Brace.

Seth Aronovich

Sure, Ghislaine's dad was one of the Mossad terrorist organizations most evil operatives, but Epstein had nothing to do with Mossad. Hilarious

TrueAnonPod

I don’t know what that has to do with this episode or really any other ones

Nick

We love Aaron

Jameson .

Holy shit its trueanon

Natty

Penn and Teller captured my imaginary as a 14 year old. Now I'm a communist.

Zzz

AbeLinkin

I think Brace and Liz’s last show should be them getting engaged because I’ll be honest they’re a wonderful team from my delusional point of view. And this should be in another year or two because I really like this programming.

Mike Bilbe-Taylor

New tee with 'Christ Cucks' emblazoned on it pls

Chas Padunski

norm macdonald-artie lange is a gold medal skinny-tall, fat-short team

The Dee's Knees

I'm just really glad that you started podcasting sort of casually bc the Epstein story was so crazy and a few years later you're running errands to Peter Dale Scott's house, it's really incredible

PAPA3231

Aaron articulates these convoluted situations/histories the best! Glad I was introduced to him via the JFK series and y’all brought him back on.

John

Fantastic episode

Zachary White

Peter Dale Scott recognizing Frank Sturgis during Watergate is like De Niro seeing E Howard Hunt on TV in Irishman

Dan

Why do they have a Google Assistant ? Be a little bit wary about a listening device connected to the internet ( that would apply to phones as well ).

AKorgar

Love the idea of Yung Chomsky as the podcast deep state

AKorgar

You're literally saying this on a podcast about conspiracies, on an episode about the Deep State

5k Race Warrior

When there's a power outage you have to set it up again to make it respond to "Yo Yung Chomsky."

Sardonic

ok but for real, watch monkeybone if you haven't yet, it's full of the imaginary

Emma

That's...that's the joke

Doug Cartel

they broke in, they looked around, yada yada yada, they got arrested

Doug Cartel

ramparts was a magazine right? that's why it's called "the ramparts scandal" rrather than LAPD having some kind of Ramparts thing? I feel like every time I hear "ramparts" someone is talking about something different every time

Clean Shirt Piggie

How do you know you’re in the deep state? Is there a secret handshake?

Clean Shirt Piggie

The ramparts WE watched were so gallantly streaming is code

xasquim

From a dainty caterpillar into a majestic butterfly

justdave

Oh, there's a fukn handshake, fore-ssurrr

Francis Mahlie

Y'all have given me more 9/11 info recently and another person I patronize has a 4/20 9/11 banger out. I think you all will enjoy it: www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR58LKLe/

J.P. McD.

Was the blank space during First Reformed talk YC cutting a spoiler, YC cutting Brace talking about doing crimes, a mistake, or just a legit conversational pause? 61:30 or so

DH

Fat guy skinny guy, hands down

Daniel

Lol would also like to know

J.P. McD.

I listened again - it may just be YC saying something off mic in the background and then Liz responding to him. It’s not as exciting as I once thought.