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Episode 306: White Hammer (Patreon)

Published:
2023-07-21 13:01:01
Edited:
2024-10-11 00:15:14
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2026-06
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We discuss the Q Diffusion movie Sound of Freedom and the pushback it got from the right — including from Owen Benjamin, who we use as a case study in the non-existent line between “online” and real life.

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CT

Foisted

Franklin Shepard Inc.

I know this is a chapo thing but boi howdy im ready for my yummy slop

Henry

Rip Brace

JV

brace's voice sounds all grizzled and deep like some kind of man

Ben

Lmao Owen Benjamin’s moms book is titled Called to Healing: Reflections on the Power of Earth's Stories in Women's Lives

edschi

Caviezel is a Swiss mountain 🏔 name. Romantsch to be clear. It is pronounced in a really Swiss way. Ca = Ca_via Vi = Vi_deo Ez = Ets_y El = El_dorado

Dick Waglin

Never thought about it but Brace is right at some point you start saying we're having a party for my birthday. Also I now have to watch Alls Faire in Love and thats on you guys.

cagey eye

sword & the rose is 100% real and anyone who says otherwise is gonna get haunted by randy

aarinsanity

Brace’s voice is hot with a vocal fry

Liam Farley

Yung Chomsky being a bard is iconic, but also if the Allister Crowley bit is real and u r gonna ask an expert you absolutely should collaborate with otherworld/jack again and see if he can summon up an expert

NYCM&AHole

Now you need a no legal advice disclaimer in addition to a no financial advice disclaimer, Liz.

King Suck

Alright, "someone plays a lute to buff you" is extremely reductive and honestly constitutes an erasure of bard culture.

Alec

A izza a izza should i save her?

Gabe G

Greta Goebbels

Karl Childers

thank you. exactly. sometimes its a lyre.

steak

BJ novak

Brian Ward

I respect you too much to ever send you a super chat brace

James

Brace, I have a PhD in archaeology and have been waiting for that shit to be useful. My thesis was studying a weird, largely unknown society from the Bronze/Iron Age in Arabia that worshiped snakes, so I spent a year in the desert out there getting spooky with some old ass cultic objects. Hit me up, would happily help you rid yourself of a curse

sir peepus

ATTN: Liz check out the wombats at the Satsukiyama Zoo in Ikeda City for the cutest animals on video. wombat-tv.com

meyer

This kinda reminds me of the Love Has Won cult - would love if y’all looked into them, that would be a banger ep. They had a weird streaming aspect too for keeping the cult afloat and also paying for “mother god” to play games on her phone and drink herself to death with whiskey (and colloidal silver). I think there was supposed to be an hbo doc about it but as far as I know there haven’t been any developments on that

carl

"I am a doctor--its just a word"

owen

weed can 100% induce psychosis, unfortunately speaking from experience

owen

must be an Owen thing

CJ

Oh, to be a bear stuck in honey…

james

a normal dose of edibles is.... 5mg...? hahaha

demisays

what is the wizard store called i’ll be in sf next week

james

great episode, thank you

Mitchell

Liz sounded so innocent talking about edibles it was adorable:-) aww

Petrorenminbi

I have no concept of mg dosage for weed. My unit of measurement is “bowl”

Mitch

Lizzy Woo-Woo standing somewhere outside Oracle Park decked out in orange and black

Mike Malloy

So funny to calculate that your scheme is only possible if everyone in your audience gives you $400, and you pitch it anyway. "Look if we all just skip one car payment..."

emalco

Flight of the Conchords should also be grandfathered in with Weird Al

tyler

not buying that they don’t know how to pronounce Jim Caviezel’s name

Joey

Brace starting to sound like Joey Diaz...

K H

I have a hard time discerning when Rachel Jake has a dry humor story vs something that has actually happened to him/he has done. Did he steal a Crowley artifact? On a related note I'd like to see a single artist rendition of the of the crew based on all the ways they have previously described themselves. Just every description in a single picture. Maybe one of those perspective puzzles where Brace looks gigantic or tiny depending on how you interpret the image.

K H

Adam is already dead. You would only be relieving him of the curse and taking it into yourself.

Danny

how do we heal brace but keep his voice exactly like this

Jess

this is so earnest but people used to get into politics through the Internet and now they get into these weird scams about living in the woods... total psychic failure of government

NYCM&AHole

Maybe the curse is why brace is sick

Petrorenminbi

Names very famously can be pronounced however you want

Alexander Johnson

Liz accidentally let it slip that she has signed an arbitration agreement, presumably when she signed her contract with the CIA.

Christian Kiddle

Every thirty years an American tries to reinvent the original Mormon communes

Joelio

There are 100% people who are anti antibiotics.

Zzz

Deep quote/ question Liz pointed out: “if you built a life around an identity that springs from your own imagination is it ever inauthentic?” 🤔

Aaron L

Y’all doin Zappa dirty

Nicholas Moore

No Brace, I don’t recall the David Hogg pubes incident

K H

"To a machine all reality is virtual." - Animatrix

K H

Does Brace take the full anti biotic regimen? Because he definitely isn't supposed to take antibiotics and just stop once he feels better. You have to take and finish them on schedule.

K H

Hungwy

will michel

love you guys. thank you for never asking me for $1000 or to move onto your compound in idaho

Zzz

For Bay Area folks — the name of that woo woo magic shop they mention is called Sword and Rose in the Haight. Unique hidden gem.

Trazdat

Kept having to remind myself that the 1972 Chicago Bears had nothing to do with any of this.

Joe Zapata

Was there a few years ago they had RFKs book 😤

Cabral Comrade

Brace’s vocal fry giving Liz a run for her money this episode

Gillian

@liz did yall mean sword and rose in cole valley👀 i may wanna take my own lil treck over there if yess

Sneakaboard

I'm now extremely concerned that Brace isn't covered by your D&O policy and is about to take the fall for something nasty....

S. Walker

That incense tho

Jaime Christley

Liz, before sealing Brace shut in the hole: Who knows, Dr. Belden, in a thousand years, even you may be worth something!

Luke

Brace you should hit up Greg and Dana Newkirk, they deal with cursed objects all the time, it’s literally their thing

B Smith

Glad the cult my dad was in are all old as hell so they can’t be streamers they just sell Amazon autobiographies their compound looks like shit, swagless

Jaime Christley

My go code is when Liz says "Deboonking"

michael hillson

This is great, listened while cleaning coils

Jaime Christley

Especially when they cite the QAA episode devoted to the guy, mere seconds later

Jaime Christley

I guess you could say………. You’re on your Owen

Alice Lilitu

I can’t tell how serious you are about the Crowley artifact thing, but if that’s for real, I’m a member of the OTO and a pretty formidable witch and I will *gladly* take it off your hands and remove any ill effects you may be feeling in the astral/etheric from taking it.

Dr. No No No

You guys need to watch wranglerstar on YouTube. Dude went from homesteader to full descent into madness now every video and YouTube short is him preparing for the coming “struggle”

Casey

Weed and stimulants can induce psychosis in certain people btw and varies as to the amount/longevity it takes to induce it. 🤙🏻

Aidan of California

Return the artifact to the foreign land exactly as you found it, official advice from an archaeologist

Jaime Christley

Gather round young ‘uns, and hear the tale of a lost Ark and its “raiders”. Twas nigh on 42 years ago this very night…..

Juan Barredo

Brace is a Jungian. If that isn’t wu wu, nothing is™️

Zach

The cynical posture” part is so real. There are so many streamers now where part of their branding is them “sincerely” urging the viewer not to establish a parasocial relationship with them, as if the parasocial relationship is not built into the medium, as if the purpose of their faux-sincerity is not to establish an even deeper parasocial relationship with their viewers. It’s pretty disquieting.

Doug Cartel

something tells me they dont realize it, but then they could also be cynically exploiting it too. kind of a coin flip I guess.

Peanut Horse

Was this entire episode sped up I feel crazy

Doug Cartel

mormons are the coneheads of americans

Doug Cartel

oh shit, that hugo awards thing was mentioned in The Old Iron Dream (good essay about fascism in sci fi) also 'N-word stole my bike' was a meme from like 2005, good god what is this moron on

Don Aldin

Brace being friends with Dasha from Red Scare, makes this episode psychotic

Stephen Longcoy

I will file whatever lawsuit y'all ask me to file 🫡

J C

Brace cough super cut when?

Zzz

I'm curious to hear Liz's review of Barbie. Do an episode on that lol

stinkface

Unthinkable that this creature was once engaged to all time dime Christina Ricci. No god

J98

How to have 0 charisma and start a cult??? Help

A White 1993 Camry

honestly everyone really slept on dungeons and dragons honor among thieves (DND:HAT)

Hot Rod

Thought Maron was cohost for a sec

archipelago_go

it makes me sad whenever i fly a little too close to the event horizon into madness that lurks behind homesteading/permaculture/gardening-type stuff. it’s sad because a lot of that stuff is not only really interesting but also genuinely useful and therapeutic, but the slide from chickens in the backyard to homeschooling to prepper to full-on insanity is well greased

Alejandro Pepsi

It really is a shame about Caviezel being loony. He's a good actor, tho I heard he flopped in SoF. I've always thought he'd play a pretty convincing John Brown.

John H

I don't know if I qualify, but I might: I'm against the overprescription of antibiotics (WAY too many doctors still prescribe antobiotics for viral infections because patients expect to get medicine when they go in) as well as non-therapeutic use of them (Antibiotic handwash! Antibiotic tissue!) because it creates an evolutionary boost to microbes developing resistance so the antibiotics no longer work when peopre are sick with things they might have cured. Antibiotics aren't magic cure-alls, and any particular one only works for some subset of bacteria, so taking any given antibiotic without a specific reason to think it will help fight a specific bacterial infection (as it sounded like Brace was considering) is bad not only for oneself, but for all of humanity.

John H

My girlfriend has to eat at least 20mg to feel it. I've eaten up to 200mg in an evening with no effect (I told my friend it was a waste, but he didn't believe me) - I think oral delivery doesn't work for me at all, though smoking/vaping work great.

Natalie

am i crazy or was the sound of freedom movie not really discussed in this episode

Ncswann

Would love a TrueAnon series on WWII, especially in relation to the current discussions around Oppenheimer.

Axel H.

Yeah this episode ended up being about the last line in the description: Owen Benjamin and the line between online and real life. They didn’t really go deeper into the objections to the movie.

Kryn Benski

They did say up top, that they hadn’t watched it. (Might have just not wanted to, or felt the actual movie was already over discussed)

Natalie

trueanon clickbait moment

Tim Mullaney

Neuro-divergent in an extreme way

ARLIE

I tried to get free sound of freedom tix from the website but it wouldn’t work so I’m trying to say that my house is a church to get a free showing

Robert Young

I want to watch a 24 hour live stream of Braces life as he navigates a series of alleyways and sewers hunting down various artefacts.

Gordon Schmidt

The guy she eventually married was a real piece of work too! Apparently they divorced because he got abusive during COVID- hope the guy she's with now is worth her time!

Max

Test

loafman

glad brace isnt bouncing back from covid faster than me

Mia

brace vaped too much again

John

I’ve 30 mins left and it hasn’t been mentioned yet. I think owen benjamin criticised the movie and they mentioned at the start that there’s competition and rivalry between right wing figures.

Maya B

There's kind of an anti-antibiotics thing. There's ppl that are way too obsessed in like an anti-vaxx way. But then also there's definitely an issue with overperscribing antibiotics when u don't know if someone even has a bacterial infection and then bacteria can build up immunity to them.

Karl Childers

i wouldn't mind hearing her thoughts but tbh movie episodes aren't really a TrueAnon thing and imo that's for the best. fwiw my review barbie is movie of the year and it's not even close

Keanu

weed burrito

Joey McIntosh

Shameless "ekstriplexeks" plug Funny+Music done in a way unique from Weird Al... yay or nay?

Mojo55

Wanted to message on Twitter but musk forces you to be verified now, but there’s a anti conspiracy JFK video that’ll likely be getting a lot of views you may wanna be aware of: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5u7euN1HTuU

David A. Banks

At the risk of doing exactly what the last 1/4 of the episode was about, it has been weird to hear recently --in a few different places-- talk about the internet being "real life." For years I wrote for a blog called "Cyborgology" (I invite you to lol at the title, we did) that kept trying to make the point that the online/offline distinction was goofy and wrong. The Discourse at the time (2011-2016) was mainly NYT columnists and ivy league professors trying to justify liberal positions that would a) allow capital to invest just the way it always had b) turn the issue into a etiquette / moral hygiene issue that would divert attention away from regulation and c) use a and b to set up meaningless “solutions” further down the line like those things in your phone that tell you how much screen time you’ve had. That blog eventually turned into a conference called Theorizing the Web and a paid web magazine called "Real Life" that was bankrolled by Snapchat (we were always very upfront about that in the masthead) until the first round of tech lay offs. The conference seemed to lose the plot in the last few years before covid killed it. This ~20 year history has been like watching a monkey paw curl its fingers because all of our critiques seem to have been fully metabolized and the result is just that everyone is cynical and crazy.

Brian Long

72 bears? You mean my dating history? 😏😏😏😏😏😏😏

Andrew Radespiel

If you don’t know what “piercing the veil” or who Joey Diaz is, don’t pretend you do.

Sam G

I would absolutely watch if y'all streamed.

Golander

hosted for owen benjamin once in my brief standup career. one of the dumbest, tallest people ive ever met. he can play piano a little so i tried to talk a little music shop with him, how i played tympani and stuff and he seemed barely able to understand/hold a conversation. oh ALSO he was constantly mentioning jimmy fallon in his act AND just in conversation. like alot. pretty sure he thought a clip would get back to jimmy and get his attention

Dick Waglin

I watched Alls Faire in Love "starring" Owen Benjamin (second billing behind Cristina ricci). The jester in it has a hand puppet called Horny the Unicorn. This film would be bad in 1996 and its unbelievable it came out in 2009. A goat peeing on Matthew Lillards dick is a joke in this film. Had some real rocking corset tits throughout though.

Julian Gricksch

Anti-WooWoo comment from invalid nerd incoming. Stop it. Be materialist.

Cameron Young

Guys Do not show up to the meet and greet wearing a Jordan Poole Wizards Jersey and holding a fake stat line like 6 for 24 and 0 punches dodged. You will not get a photo and will be asked to leave. Bouncer didn’t have to be so rude tho.