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We get online to talk a little shit and go over some of 2023’s biggest losers, from two of the biggest haters.

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big nephew

i love brace and want to give him a big kiss!

Megan

hope brace is surviving the ebola 🙏🏻

Zach B

when is brace going to address the avicii virus allegations

Bryan

Still G.A.Y.

Zhandra

Everyone wanted to be the first to comment and nothing was the same :(

Sam

The tweets attract the type of audience you guys complain about having on the podcast. I'm confused and annoyed.

Peanut Horse

Brace this is a safe space so you can come clean if you like, but the sex plane was your idea wasn’t it?

Blank

I didn’t spend four years in gay medical school to be called Mr. Gay, thank you

lcnrs

YC dropping tiny ‘they might be giants’ snippets is my medicine

Juan Barredo

I had a sociology professor who is now retired but his name was Dr. Gay. No big deal about it I dunno

Natty

I’m making eggs and sausage that i got from the farmers market right now. I’m just like Brace fr

Donald

I have the Andromeda Ebola. Help.

Brian Long

“Brace. He, they.”

Demented Avenger

Possible merch slogan: “I got gay with Liz and Brace.”

square coats

PSA: Prigozhin wasn't the sole leader of Wagner, they have a council of commanders, you can read one take on the remaining commanders (aka not Utkin and Prigozhin) and possible future directions of Wagner here: https://ilyavaliev-livejournal-com.turbopages.org/ilyavaliev.livejournal.com/s/9297832.html I'm not try to come across as agreeing with what's written at the link, it just seems like a decent overview of some significant figures in Wagner and dispels the Wagner=Prigozhin misconception.

Kryn Benski

Didn’t know what you had

aficionado

the name is gay, doctor gay

helvetica.hottie

Great ep, guys! I love the discussion based current events type shows. Thanks for delivering!

Oliver Crane

I read an article years ago about rich people in CA who were insisting on watering their giant lawns during the drought and one of them was named Gay Butler.

MurseInDaPurse

Can you guys do an ep about Civic Development Group? I’m watching Telemarketers on HBO and it’s blowing my tiny little mind.

Government Name

I was at the market. Brace was eating a $5 foot long and picking out essential oil concoctions. The one he was holding was “for height gain.” You’ll never silence me Brace.

Matt Pierce

Yoooo shouts out to Brace, a fellow R.A. Salvatore kid 😭

Char Kelly

Dark Brace’s (he/they) daily schedule: -wakes up in the morning -takes a girl bath -puts on zoomer pants -goes to the farmers market -cooks a gas-free girl dinner -gets the zoomies (fogle style) -goes to bed

original gay pussy eatah

I am curious what was meant by “it gets bitter,” with regards to Liz’s “queer awareness campaign.”

J98

Liz is giving alot of insecurity. What does it matter what the haters have to say, girl? Keep it coming. You think people like your show because they want you to heed the h8ers and losers

Michelle

“Hot dog in a wig” is my new screensaver.

Professor Idiot

Speaking of gas, please do ep on PG&E San Bruno explosion

aficionado

those cruise vehicles are so fucking stupid god i hate them so much. the mlb just put advertisement patches on jerseys and the Giants have the ‘cruise’ logo. also to anyone living in the city: grab a nearby traffic cone and place it in front of the car or on the hood, thanks.

Oliver Crane

A while ago I was thinking I should get submissions for a zine called Others Find Pleasure In Things I Despise that would just be a compendium of hating on specific things (nothing boring/played out, need some niche hating)

C. J

About the morality of film, we have to remember that so many people are entirely ignorant about events themselves, so worrying about the perfect moral framing is missing the point that we actually just need films so people can learn that we nuked a couple cities. How many people knew that before going in, vs when they walked out? I'd imagine around 50% of the audience didn't even know the realities of those bombings. That's the real role of cinema now. If we want more depth, we gotta sub to TA and buy books.

AKorgar

Brace still able to get ahold of $5 footlongs because Subway is grateful to him for cracking the Jared case

Emma

On behalf of the girlies I’m formally requesting more Liz thoughts on fashion/personal style

Doug Cartel

'you got your peanut butter on my chocolate' but the peanut butter is NATO Air Land Battle Doctrine and the chocolate is the Soviet Recon Strike Complex Doctrine i'm very funny

Doug Cartel

from what I've been told, the Wagner freaks called off their 'protest march' the instant Putin went on TV and accused them of betrayal. I don't think it helped that no other high ranking officials backed up Prigozhin and that anybody with a modicum of power lined up behind Putin. I'm not a think tank policy wonk but that doesn't sound like a government teetering on the brink of collapse.

Jessie Cherbak

Nolan’s Batman movies were filmed in Chicago because he thought the network of streets was especially dark and dystopian

AO

Timmy?

Brian Long

Liz, you’re very right about the economy. Fuck LinkedIn, but as someone who spends time on there for my job, it’s fucking insane to see how many people I know who have been unemployed for so long. Many, many months of my friends and former colleagues not getting offers after being laid off. It’s terrifying that this isn’t a bigger deal.

Brian Long

It’s insane to see headlines about the economy being good, then seeing 10s upon 10s of your friends and former coworkers on LinkedIn be “open for work” MONTHS on end.

Brian Long

AND!!! student loans are back in action. For what? What winning strategy do the Dems have here?

Kyle Petty

The self-driving car point I couldn't agree more with. I don't know why the self-driving car is being pushed so hard when we already have that same experience in trains. I guess someone could argue that a self-driving car is like your own personal train, that will take you directly to where you want to go, but if we just build out train systems then it would be the same experience. It's not like self-driving cars can negate traffic, pedestrians, construction, crappy roads, car repairs, gas, etc. Yet, a train system does circumvent all of those occurrences.

Matelda

They are saying the economy is good for workers because you can finally get any job you want that pays the equivalent of $2.50/h in 2010 money

Brian Long

Btw, love this episode. So fun to listen to people talk shit about things I hate.

John Swan

Also filmed in Pittsburgh

Ian H

So Francis Suarez gets paid in Bitcoin in the same sense that I get paid in Yuengling?

Christopher Price

AMC theaters get the chk chk noise from me. Thankfully I do not have to deal with them now, but for a couple of years while in the midwest I had to deal with them. That theater regularly showed movies out of focus and let the curtain hang over parts of the screen.

Alex Tidwell

girl…. you and your žižek

Posadist Tutor

Liz is right. The vibes are off in the economy. I'm converting my retirement to plantable wheat.

Degrassi Knoll

Holy shit I can't believe I hadn't seen those "disguises" until now!! 👨😎🥸

Robin Palmer

100% agree with BB on the big pants (trousers, cos uk listener). Young people dressing in a way that got u bullied by normal kids in the nu metal era

Emma

Is he/they on the Wikipedia yet

themaroonlagoon

Re: the TrueAnon "don't get in a small plane" rule discussion at 1:23ish, you just know there's now going to be some future scene in a Dictator-esque comedy where a high-ranking general who's on the outs with the regime tries to follow the TrueAnon rule and fly commercial but since he's a social media star everyone knows what he looks like so every time he boards a plane all the other passengers immediately bail and the flights gets cancelled. Cut to him trying to flee the country on his daughter's scooter.

SMO

Sausage for breakfast each morning is concerning.

Jess

prigozhin on his 2020 vibes

sir peepus

more vivec, n’wah!

kmd

I always knew brace was a drizzt-head

TrueAnonPod

To be real I don’t really eat breakfast most mornings

kmd

I have to refinance because of my divorce. I'm fortunate to afford it, but it means I'll have to work so much longer since that extra money will go to interest instead of principle

Grace

Pretty disappointed Brace didn’t talk about the meth movie

drewb

it's so funny that Livejournal was the Tumblr of the early 2000s and now it's almost entirely solemn Russian war diaries

weedworf

Sideshow Bob committed voter fraud with dead people when he ran for Springfield mayor: who are the Bart and Lisa who will stop this Miami fellow

evelyn 💗

Brace coulda upped the ante and said meats by gay but that’s just me 🤷🏻‍♀️

em

Thank you for sharing your takes on Oppenheimer! I felt like we were all being gas lit with all the praise for it.

Felix

brace is not beating the trans guy allegations

Phillip Harris

Pretty sure Prigozhin is a weight loss drug that I get from Dr. Gay

Jack Rogers

The McChicken went from $1 to $3.09!!!!

Galen

*parasocial freindship intensifies*

Karl Childers

forreal you don't even get to see cillian murphy's dick

🤷🏼‍♀️

Elf and Dwarf man here, Batman/Superman dumb and bad

w

Self driving cars could potentially prevent a lot of accidents. Like everything else in our world though, it’s being done in a very stupid way and rushed to market before it’s ready. Obviously public transit would be a better solution but that’s never happening so in the meantime, it would be nice if I didn’t have to pay attention in traffic. Unfortunately, our entire economy is focused on short-term growth over building an actual product and I don’t know if we’ll ever actually get a real self driving car that doesn’t suck

Simon

One metric that the "economy is actually good" crowd usually ignores is life expectancy. Along with the experience of inflation, knowing of a lot more people who died is going to have a big effect on how you view quality of life and the economy, even if more people have jobs.

Charlie M

Transmasc brace confirmed

wolfgang

Interesting point Yum Chomsky made about Michael Haneke, however I though he would point out that if you watch any Haneke film you will never hear a score(non-diegetic music) because he has the same criticism as Brace; the hollywood score is manipulative and corners the viewer into feeling a certain way about what’s on screen instead of letting the film itself do that work.

wolfgang

Dark Brace def doesn’t have all those breakfast meats. i’m thinking a raw juice.

Petrorenminbi

I know a handful of people in their early 30s who are “homeowners” and every single one of them got help from their parents to buy it. Parents covered the down payment and in some cases also pay a portion of the monthly payment. Good stuff

mira

Liz was so right about Emily Blunt's bad plastic surgery. She has an incredible eye for this stuff.

Robbie H.

NGL me nd mines went from renting in the hood to owning a home near the hood, mostly from unemployment and stimulus.

H

Brayce’s ironic gay jokes are officially boring as fuck especially given how often he feels like he has to say “as a dude who doesnt want to sleep with dudes”

meyer

listened to this on my way to work and couldn’t stop thinking about how big my pants were thanks guys

Lionel Boyd Johnson

Not to mention an explosion of homelessness? The decrease in life expectancy? Suicides and child poverty on the increase? How the hell is that a sign of a good economy? What's the point of an "economy" if this is a good one? Roll it on back to feudalism if this is the best we can do today, WTF

chronye

biden tablet time is real

Joshua J Marx

You felt the need to post that? Why?

Joshua J Marx

Capitalism is just a reengineering of Feudal Mercantilism anyways so..

Gabby S

so sad, should’ve seen greta’s Barbie instead

Grock1199

horrible interstellar take, easily nolans best movie after the dark knight

Anon Ibid

Loved liz's mustard seed rant

Vicky

liz had a guy debord awakening

Michael Lawlor

Love these eps, feel free to bitch on mic anytime

Shiv

you’re just missing the girlie insomnia vibes

Shiv

i got real bad giggles picturing him watching The Good Place to get ready

Char Kelly

As the trazodone-consuming-girlies know, dark brace sleeps like a champ…no night terrors, no night snacking

David Constine

i don’t think Österrreicher Michael Hanneke has any right to tell Steven Spielberg what he’s allowed to do in a Holocaust movie…

Maya B

I literally just watched Dark Knight Rises for the 1st time 2 days ago so I looked all this up. Gotham is in a world where all the real cities also exist?? And also Gotham is in New Jersey??? Also that movie is definitely propaganda and I think they want us to think Bane is a communist idk

ch

biden's presidency is like when a little kid wants to play video games with you and you give them a controller that isn't plugged in

JoMike Milly

I loved oppenheimer. Watched it 4 times. I think if you like the music and not trying to moralize about the bomb it is a nice movie. Sex scenes aside

Lionel Boyd Johnson

I liked the move, but Liz had the best take on it, hands down. Now I'm not sure how I feel about it. The whole interrogation scenes were so weird, but reframed... still very weird but in a totally different light. Thanks for the on point critique!

Lionel Boyd Johnson

But the whole point of a movie is to take a viewer on a journey, and tell a story, why would the score be a tool best left in the tool box of the director and artists trying to tell an emotionally compelling story? If a director said " I'm not going to have visuals, just dialog, just a swirling kaleidoscope on screen, and a score" then we'd think they were crazy. The whole point of a movie is to communicate a certain "feeling" and tell a story, and if you don't like that... maybe don't watch movies

Cole

it's a good movie, they're dead wrong about it. They don't think a movie that features a bunch of hollering Americans cheering on the detonation of a nuke, while the protagonist envisions himself stepping through a charred corpse, in an auditorium that hey come to think of it is kinda like a movie theater, isn't critical of 1) that protagonist and 2) the audience watching the film. Nolan isn't contemptuous of his audience though, unlike like Haneke, so maybe he should have been more didactic and unbearable to get the point across good ep otherwise :]

triplevalaska

That is an embarrassing take on Ukraine.

TowerofOil

No need to lie, we know you didn't give up your love for Drizzt Do' Urden

DH

An honestly trump-like precision

Lizard

sleepover ep

Hunter Ladd

My favorite episodes: Brace and Liz just being dudes, hanging out, complaining.

Karl Childers

oppenheimer review: "all sound and fury, signifying nothing" -- the extensive use of emotionally manipulative music evokes an impression in the viewer that they have beheld something meaningful, yet the text of the film deliberately says as little as possible so as not to court controversy, leaving the viewer with a false catharsis which reassures them they have engaged maturely with a difficult topic when they have actually been inoculated against the threat of genuine confrontation with the subject matter

Ian Firstenberg

Love the shout out to City Smoke the worst/best smoke shop in the city

CC

Liz’s should play Bane in all upcoming productions, including Batman on Broadway™️

A Yee

bro you guys are the Statler and Waldorf muppets with all the heckling over here

ABH

please get Pete Pespas on the show 🙏

ZeeBee

Solidarity with Brace. Olives can suck my fucking dick ✊

JT

You guys need to do an episode on Strong Mayor 💪 Jacob Frey of Minneapolis who got downtown real estate to buy him his re-election, his strongmayorship, and a city council majority, after eating shit through George Floyd summer 2020 (and there’s the charter commission, proposed department of public safety, etc. it’s fertile ground..)

Houthi & the Blowfish

The self-driving car follows you like the Johnny Cab in Total Recall and tries to run you over again for swearing at it

Shoshana

does liz have a list of what brace isn’t allowed to do on the podcast. she’s my hero

MrMojoRisin

Biggest shock was Liz knowing more about Batman than the boys

SF

Will Stancil is such a gimp

Claire Ellis

self driving car take: I'm a pedestrian in SF (no car - I walk, bike, scooter, or lyft everywhere). when I'm biking to Caltrain there's an intersection at 7th and Townsend that I almost get merked every morning. self driving cars are the only cars who ALWAYS see & wait for bikers and pedestrians. they're the only cars I trust to not kill pedestrians. I've never ridden in one so I have no take on that aspect. I also don't work in tech so I have no tech-y bias. trust me I distrusted them too (Waymo and Cruise anyway**)

RedJon

I would have liked more Stancil hate. He's such a fuckin goon

SF

100% he needs to be roasted like an Yglesias-sized pig

MinkL0af

My original comment on Oppenheimer still stands: Oppy was fine, calm down. Loud boom! good.

Wesley M

Liz the economy is legitimately good though, folks are just on Tik tok too much

Wesley M

People think the economy is bad bc housing and transportation costs are so high, the solution is to build denser housing and more public transportation. Will lower the cost of housing for everyone, provide an alternative to car ownership for low income people who spend a ridiculous amount of their paychecks on transportation

Wesley M

Read an article recently that low income people are spending 50-70% of their income on housing/transportation. That’s not sustainable and it’s local govts fault that is the case.

Natalie

who let will stancil in these comments

Natalie

"the economy is good but here's how it should be fixed" but i thought it was good?

Wesley M

Well this was trying to explain the phenomenon Liz discussed in the episode - if all the conventional data (unemployment, wages, GDP, etc) is signaling that the economy is strong and getting stronger… why do we have an ever growing population of homeless people; and why does everyone seem to share the belief that their paychecks are being eaten away and money isn’t going as far as it used to. We can point to inflation as an explanation… but again conventional data is telling us that inflation isn’t actually that bad, and hasn’t been for several months now. Therefore it is my belief that the reason why the economy FEELS so bad is bc of housing and transportation costs, which if you have been paying attention you would have noticed have risen faster than any other essential cost like food/groceries. And it should always be noted that the government has more control over housing and transportation costs than any other!! We can build housing and public transportation, and should, where there is a shortage of those things.

Wesley M

And I will also add that your comments and Liz and Braces discourse in this episode is the reason mainstream society has no respect for the modern left. We are capable of recognizing the problems, but no one dares have the conviction to stand behind a solution. That is reactionary, just as reactionary as modern day conservatives are. Be proactive, not reactive

Paul Shaver

Finally someone with a reasonable Oppenheimer take. Felt insane seeing people whose movie opinions I generally respect fall for that shit.

Rosie

Just about to finish my first trueanon marathon, had to take a moment to thank Young Chomsky for the pet shop boys drop in this episode <3

bangoduck

scratch a yimby and a landlord bleeds.

Nothingburger Burgerreich

Everything you said about movies is completely incomprehensible to me. I would like to know where you learned those words and how to use them in context.

Nothingburger Burgerreich

Please tell me how to formulate an opinion on movies. I see a movie and it’s either neat costumes and colors or it isn’t. I don’t understand what that part of the conversation was even getting at

Nothingburger Burgerreich

I thought the R rating was going to be language violence and such not boobies to the mf face otherwise it was cool

Nothingburger Burgerreich

I’ve learned to tolerate them since they will appear on a sandwich without warning but I don’t seek them out