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Episode 321: Dude Where’s My Dad: POW/MIAs (Part One) (Patreon)

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2023-09-22 15:01:05
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2026-06
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We begin our multi-part series on the legends and myths swirling around the POW/MIAs allegedly left behind in Indochina with an explanation of how we got there in the first place: The Vietnam war, the Golden Triangle, secret bombings, aerial campaigns, army wives, and Ross Perot.

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Tom

Hell yeah can’t wait. 5 seconds in its great.

Emioly

Thank u for a little Friday treat for us <3

Johnny B

I needed this little treat this morning

original gay pussy eatah

Coindexter is my father I am his cursed demonic brood I shun the coin I want only his love please

Jasper Petty

Called in sick and got rewarded for it with this ep

Neil Jones

The screenshot brace posted of the DIA investigating a lying kids tale of GIs living in tunnels and tying themselves to trees has been cracking me up all week hopefully we get the full story

Peanut Horse

Making the first five seconds my morning alarm now

Anon Ibid

The Knights of Columbus have something called the Silver Rose program that's about linking the us with Canada and South America. I dunno much about it but they always seemed very fash to me growing up in texas

dominic

All libs are pows (prisoners of woke)

Natalie

dude where's my dad is so funny

Owen

as someone who constantly thinks these govt buildings are flying the isis flag, i feel so seen by brace this ep

Soda enthusiast

Why wasn't liz cast in Pixar's Sodas? Was it anti polish racism

dam

Fantastic title

Daniel Valentine

This podcast references a lot of books, it would be cool if you put a list together of the books you recommend throughout the episodes. I don’t want to put any pressure on you guys but I pay for this subscription instead of paying my child support. It’s the least you can do.

Alex

Omg please have Alfred Mccoy on the show! 🙏

NYCM&AHole

What about the soldiers who never came home because they became trophies for the predator?

Clarp Blarpkiss

I used to go on road trips all the time to visit family when I was young, and I always assumed Pow Mia was so e sort of Che Guavara-type figure that only people who ran truck stops knew about.

Corey Reynolds

What is “Po-Mo”? Not everyone speaks internet as fluent as you guys..

Zach

tampons + check out the fantastic film VIVA from Anna Biller

Doug Cartel

the last time America had a POW we just wrote him off as a traitor so eh

Peter G

Would love to read a book JUST about George HW Bush and Ross Perot fucking with each other in the deep state

thotberg

ok does knowingly going into an old folks home when you have covid fall under a specific crime? treason against humanity? attempted murder of Love itself?

Victor MIII

Cold open so raw I got salmonella 😤

Eric

My dad’s cum had agent orange in it and that’s why my brain is dumb.

K H

I got COVID recently. Sucked. Probably be wearin your masks and getting your vaxxx update. Throat kept swelling up and I was briefly worried I'd get owned and have to go to the hospital, despite easily defeating it on at least one other occassion. Be careful unless you smoke really hella strong weed in which case you are protected based on a tiktok I saw of Joe Biden.

Mitch

Not to give advice to these people, but they could go with God(s), guns and Grites. It's a little more inclusive and flows better.

Michael S. Judge

My 8th grade teacher was an army reservist, and he had all these military and historical tchotchkes all over his desk that we could "win" if we got the best score on a test or something. One time I won and took the POW/MIA flag, not knowing anything about it as a phenomenon, and he was confused and asked why I wanted that, so I said, "Well if there are all these POWs and MIAs, this flag should probably be somewhere people can see it." I didn't understand why he got mad

Broadway Joe

Stars and bars. The War of Northern Agression… I didn’t realize this was a neo-Confederate podcast.

Gordon Schmidt

In the Invisible Bridge, Rick Perlstein recounts a story where POW wives approached the North Vietnamese delegation at the Paris Peace Talks, demanding the release of their husbands. These were hardcore Vietnamese cadres, they'd survived decades of war and party intrigue. Not the sort of people to be trifled with, in other words. Seething, they told the wives that their husbands were being punished for crimes against the Vietnamese people. Apparently, the wives were absolutely shaken. Can you imagine walking in that self-righteously, only to be met by people who have experienced things you cannot imagine? Also interesting that WWII had so many more unrecoverable bodies than Korea or Vietnam. That's probably because of the Pacific War- when a ship sinks, it can be very hard to recover the bodies, even if they know where the wreck is. They're still finding wrecks from the 1940s today.

Pte. Parts

The POW/MIA flag does legit look just like the ISIS flag

Broadway Joe

When I was about 7 I asked my dad—who was about as apolitical as they come—who his favorite president was. He answered, “Richard Nixon because he brought the troops home from Vietnam.”

Braedon

Petition for brace to open the next ep “good morning being gay” in robin Williams voice

Ryan Dahmer

Doesn’t “stars and bars” refer to the confederate flag?

Brian Ward

I sense an impending long COVID arc

nadia

I remember being a child at a basketball game and noticing that flag for the first time… always something deeply unsettling about it. The stark black and white combined with that big ass silhouetted head… bonechilling

nadia

Knew you would come through with the George Stephen Morrison Gulf of Tonkin connection 🤝🏻

Petrorenminbi

Am i crazy or is stars and bars the confederate flag

K H

Bring back our dang boys.

Evan Scott

They didn't get the flags mixed up this is actually broadcast from an alternate reality where the confederacy won the war

Shiv

Brace does your funky ass really hauve coivid?! avoid vigorous activity long after you start to feel better. maximum resting correlated w better outcomes. if you drop dead we’ll have to accuse the CIA and no one wants that

Petrorenminbi

It’s so crazy you could not support the war, get drafted in the war, go “missing” in the war, then finally have your wife used as a political pawn to slow roll peace talks to end the war. Hell of a life

Shiv

Me Talk Pretty Someday is too NPR-core for BB

Phillip Harris

My brother and I argued about Nixon vs Humphrey. My brother said Nixon had a “secret plan’. I liked Humphrey because his name was fun to say. I was 3. My brother was 5.

Seth Aronovich

So, I'm mostly onboard with this. But, to suggest that Nixon was somehow any worse than LBJ, who worked with the zionist entity to orchestrate the murder of Kennedy for trying to stop their nuclear program, and who got dozens of good draft-dodgers on the USS Liberty killed as part of a plot to nuke Egypt and Syria, is problematic to me. I also think it's quite possible that the heroic Communist government of the Vietnamese people passed some American POW's over to the USSR to extract their information and some of them may have been tortured to death in the process. Fine by me, entirely justified. Every American babykiller sent to Vietnam had the opportunity to frag their officers, those that didn't deserve no sympathy. EDIT: Also, while 'POW/MIA' has technically been used to 'justify' continuing American aggression against Vietnam, well into the 1990s and beyond, the same aggression has continued to happen to Cuba and China and Venezuela and Iran and other human countries that stood up against alien aggression under succesive evil American regimes like the Biden and Trump crime families, despite the fact that they hold no Ammurrican prisoners. Vietnam would have been attacked regardless of the POW/MIA narrative. The American empire is incapable of truth or humanity or reason or morality.

Claire Simon

Do you think the POW MIA shadow guy and the Neighborhood Watch shadow guy ever explored each others bodies

Connor Green

I came to Bo Gritz via Gary Webb’s Dark Alliance, wanted more, happy to hear this

A_ZO

why did brace make that noise at 36:45

malpertuis

I always think Richard Armitage is part of this story, but I can't remember where I got it from. - also feel better, be safe and love love love love love

CJ

LizStrong BRACElets when

Pedro

My great grandfather was a POW in the Burma campaign, but I wouldn’t call him a war hero. “I like people who weren’t captured.”

Marina

Came to the comments for catboy nixon posting and I'm leaving severely disappointed

Natalie

only got 20 mins in before i gotta clock back in but i'm already very invested, i love these kinds of episodes on political influences we see everywhere but don't know the long history behind. brace get well soon 👑 take time to heal if you need it

Chungo Bungo

Link to Nixon Cat Boy video?? Asking for a friend

ffffffff

when you said that you read a long bio of pol pot and came away with him being kind of a dipshit, I immediately knew you probably read the same bio I, which made me reach the same position

Angleton

What is this massive biography on Pol Pot you read?

Ian

Flag drop when

Clint Pelvis

did u guys know that stars and bars is the civil war flag ? 🙄

Christopher Price

The French ate shit so badly in Indochina their north African conscripts realized their commanders were trash and were inspired to go home and start their own revolutions.

Brian Long

I went most of my life not knowing what that flag was until like, 6 years ago when I looked it up and was like, k.

Randy Hendrickson

Great episode! Everytime I see that flag I grind my teeth. Appreciate the nod to us oldies, though I'm not Bob Dole old yet. Braceman, get better soon and stop catching that shit. Every time you get it you increase your chances of getting a plethora of other diseases. That shit fucks with your immune system, long term. #CovAIDS

ectoslavia

Hillary Did the Gulf of Tonkin

Kerri

General Vang Pao let's fucking go!!!

Will

pow/mia GIs are the focus of the classic bangerino “ballad for the fallen soldier” by The Isley Bros. very excited to hear about Bo Gritz training the Muj in the Nevada desert in the coming weeks.

Thomas Côté

i love the smell of a cold open in the morning.

itsjenjen

Google antritust ep soon?

Maura Willey

you guys are most on form when you're doing a mini series about shit that happened in the 60s

Arielle Curtin

Subscribe! Have you read “Year One” about Pol Pot in Cambodia? Thanks for shoutout to the “old heads.”

Kerri

Liz/Mr. Slithers/YC y'all hear back from Dr McCoy yet and have you listened to his discussion with Peter Dale Scott? I'm considering contacting him myself to tell him to get his ass on your podcast

Emily

I believe the image in Liz’s mind is viva paper towels, the superior paper towel brand

John Reeves

This fucking episode title almost made me do a spit take. Might be my favorite so far, well done.

Alex

Stars and bars is the confederate flag

Lucas

Boys home by Christmas type shit

Cale

I wonder if Vietnams Mia numbers are so low because that would mess up the whole sending heroine home with the body’s opp

Nosreffej

Its actually crazy that this series came out a week before Oct. 7th and Isreal using hostages and Hannibal Derective victims to justify their genocide and ongoing invasions.

Swimaroo

I can't believe that dads everywhere are still being POWed and MIAed to this day :'( sad.

io blanchett

guys. PLEASE sell DieWeak bracelets