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Episode 341: The Clean-Up Crew (Patreon)

Published:
2023-12-18 14:20:46
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2024-03-05 17:31:47
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2026-06
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We have Nick Bryant, author of the Franklin Scandal and the first to publish Epstein’s black book, back on the show to talk about David Boies, Stanley Pottinger, and his organization Epstein Justice. 

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A classico ep!

N0tagayman

Nick Bryant is a real hero. He had his promising career completely destroyed because he refused to be silent on these issues. I really hope he's still pulling decent residuals from The Franklin Scandal.

tyler

it’s refreshing that they’re talking about Epstein and Boies because usually when the topic is Epstein it’s little GIRLS that are relevant. thank you, i’m here all week

Doug Cartel

you see my cold always starts in my toes and I crinkle my nose Wherever it goes I always know That you make me smile please stay for a while now Just take your time wherever you go (I grew up in a family where random phrases trigger song lyrics it's like a manchurian candidate thing, it's my most basic troll attack for my build)

Graham Hoese

Back to the bread and butter letsgooooo

SPENCER PIBBLES

My coat also hurts my neck. Liz get checked for fibromyalgia

joshua emery

Just turned this on, so I kinda hope it or at least an adjacent topic comes up... I've been a fan of Nick's for a minute but his buddy relationship with Roger Stone has me really uncomfortable

John McElroy

Nick is hilarious. How many Pottingers exist (who trains these guys)?

Matt Jolo

"Starts in my toes"... And then I crinkle my nose?

Camila Sol

Chilean General Carlos Prats, along with his wife, were assassinated a block away from my home in Buenos Aires. This is who you guys are referring to.

kwrob

A link for the socks would be much appreciated!

L

I love nick

J98

Boomer episode

Ian H

As a PA resident I'm compelled to set the record straight: COINTELPRO was exposed 5 years prior to the Church Committee by a group of activists who broke into the Media PA FBI office during the first Ali-Frazier fight.

NYCM&AHole

That’s why you fire up a 100w all tube amplifier and play death metal riffs and the tubes heat the recording space

Negative Affirmations

I knew a guy who sent friends and family affiliate links to make money when they'd get him gifts. Total asshole.

Carver Eller

"Missing" is the Costa Gavras movie Nick is referencing with Sissy Spacek and Jack Lemon, any fan of this pod would LOVE this movie!

Cletus Bocephus

I don’t think I want the right and left to come together

wailing ken jennings

do I just put my cc number here? i have been sending it via DMs all day. TA puffer vests for my entire family. tyvm.

cori

YC i cannot believe you didn’t add colbie caillat’s 2007 hit Bubbly after liz said “starts in my toes”

Adam

Great episode. But it’s not going cause any change. What are we gonna do? Storm the Bastille?

Peen Israel

It sucks that Epstein type shit attracts grifters like Nick Bryant, and that Brace and Liz fall for it. This dude is just so full of shit.

NYCM&AHole

That’s some suits tv show level conflict of interest shit

Sarah Stinard-Kiel

Liz, I am with you. My big sweaters, especially ones with cowles, constantly test my neck strength.

John Swan

Let’s sit down and uncritically listen to this super pilled person we can all call friend :)

Corey Reynolds

How can the Iranian hostages being released be an October surprise if it happened in January?? It wasn’t an October surprise. It was a “fuck you” to Carter.

Your Guide AL

Speaking the infamous Pinochet dictatorship, the US declassified documents on American-born DINA hitman Michael Townley on the 60th anniversary of the JFK assassination.

Hank

He may be a bit of a grifter, but he's still done more for the Epstien case than the vast majority of media figures.

Ryan Ford

but what brand of socks

SF

Nah he rules

Nick

He does sound very annoying :(

Graham Isom

COINTELPRO tried to kill a professor I know lmao

John Kennedy

Yeah how? As far as I know he's done the hard yards for child and teen victims of sex traffic. Have you heard his interviews with some of them? Hard to see this as a grift.

K H

True Socks Groks woke and happy holidays all.

Tryg

Nadelik Lowen gumshoes!

linda jean

im not going to let this make me spiral

Ricardo

Drop the sock link pls. I’m a diabetic my feet are always cold lol

K H

R u a empath type troll?

Maya B

The pins in the crocs are just the right amount of Maximalism (which is woke) if you're a tween in the early 2000s-10s.

Angleton

The film that Nick Bryant is talking about at the 28 minute mark is called Missing by the great filmmaker Costa-Gavras.

Go'Thrak

When are we getting a United States of Africa episode?

Ben

World most swagged hassid

Mark Owen

They were released on Inauguration Day, not Election Day. The surprise would have been if Carter got them released before the election.

Pantry Raiderz

Liz I get what ur saying about the coat hurting ur neck

R. Karchnyak

The group in question was the Citizens Commission to Investigate the FBI. One of the members was the late Professor John C. Raines who taught religion at Temple University. There’s a historical marker in Media that marks the location. I like stopping by it every so often to pay my respects.

pixelsnbits

Documents to be unsealed Jan 1st!!

Ian H

Dude, his and his wife's literary salon/chemical weapons lab/black site in Lo Curro is the grimmest real-life Bolaño shit I've ever encountered. Haunting.

Ian H

That's sick, I'll make sure to see it next time I'm in DelCo.

Your Guide AL

For sure, undoubtedly Bolaño was 'inspired' in part by nasty folks like him. That's why it would be reaaaaally cool if someone could run the print the feds declassified and find out if the bastard is still kicking ;) ;)

aarinsanity

Is this Nick guy credible? I thought Franklin was a hoax. Just not sure of his credentials and some of this sounded sensationalized. Some of this pedo talk just kind of sounded QAnony at times.

Jameson .

That’s never meant anything

Christopher Price

Liz is showing superhuman strength not to go down the ig influencer route.

Christopher Price

As for the right and left uniting, it won't work, not just because of basic politics or unease, but also to someone on the right, if you have everyone from the Clintons to Chomsky implicated, is there anyone trustworthy? Also, given the right wing belief in hierarchy all liberal-left leaders have been tainted, and any leftist types, like this pod, would just be counted as leaders of CCP cells.

sono

liz the coat hurting ur neck is sooo real

Hal Warren

Yung Chomsky missed an opportunity to put in the Ohio riff on mention of Kent State shooting

Steev Hise

I think sometimes you should let Brace say “buh-byeee…”

Luke F

Yeah, this Bryant dude's a hack at best, a grifter at worst. What a clown

Luke F

He is not credible. You can tell by the way Brace and Liz engage with him that they don't fully believe he's credible either. Why have him on the show?

aarinsanity

I was thinking they were pretty half ass during this interview too. I think I may have listened to him on a Subliminal Jihad and i didnt really buy what he was selling

csalyer .

Yeah the last 20 minutes are like, "oh we got an old crank on who still somehow believes 'official investigations' will lead to waking up america

Mackenzie

I would also buy everything liz told me to

Jed Levin

Probably been mentioned, but the movie about Pinochet’s soccer stadium murders is called “Missing.” Would also recommend “Death and the Maiden,” which is historical fiction. So is “Missing,” I think.

jess

embarrassing to admit this but if Liz started a shopping recommendations substack i would subscribe day one. i want to know what these great socks are!

Peanut Horse

Brace has said “facts” it seems like every episode for like 6 months

Andrew Rassling

It's unclear if Franklin Credit Scandal was a hoax or not. Inconsistencies and strange elements of the way the fallout were handled, along with a basic understanding of what Epstein was and may have been makes it very concerning. Nick Bryant MAY be a very dogged investigator to the truth, he may be a loon boxing at shadows. We can't know because the reality of politics and power has turned these sorts of issues into a black box that we can only trace the outlines of. Moreover, Bryant is a "conspiracy theorist" in the vein of what is fostered by the liberal understanding of the world. He's not making class analysis, which is why he's latching on to the shadowy cabal explanation, instead of Brace and Liz who've mentioned repeatedly why Epstein was a potential moment to reveal the face of power. He's an actual investigator though, doing interviews and dredging up documents and doing analysis. I think anyone interested in this stuff should be enough of an adult to approach him critically but with an open mind, I think it's not too hard to see the flaws in his thinking (which are obvious) and try to piece together what is valuable in his research. This dissection of the fund is useful in and of itself.

Dyana Prewitt

Hostages weren’t released the day Reagan got elected. They were released, plane landing split screen, one hand raised, one on Bible, the day Reagan was inaugurated. And people just saw it as a coincidence or a preview of good days ahead. I remember because I was in high school and my wacky teacher wheeled a tv into the classroom so he could watch the guy I had laughed at for months, her guy, sworn in.

Luke F

Bryant is a fool, a grifter, or both

MD

Nick has 'weird uncle at Thanksgiving talking about the Kennedy assassination' energy and I'm the niece who's like 'hell yes tell me more'

aarinsanity

Im a “crazy if true” kind of guy. I don’t take podcasts as fact. Mostly just entertainment here.

Shiv

well said

Antipaganda

You can't think in a binary way if you're making a serious effort to improve politics. You'll never fix everything. You can improve things, though. When judging his efforts, Nick should simply ask: did I leave things better than when I arrived? Or, even more practically: Did I make things better than they would have been if I wasn't there?

Antipaganda

Why not? Why don't we show the incompetent Jan 6 crowd how you REALLY storm a centre of government and get shit done?

Antipaganda

Except in a sexual manner, of course.

kyle

I’m late to the party, but By Night In Chile makes allusions to this very thing. You probably know this already.

MojoMan

This is in my mind the most important and significant podcast you have done on the effort by our own Government to bury truth about genuine evil. We are so goddam gullible as a people…

MojoMan

There are no coincidences

MojoMan

I knew one of the people whose body was found there. His father was one of Chile’s leading intellectuals.

Ian H

Hah, no I was thinking of Nazi Literature in the Americas which has a few characters like them,.I clearly need to read By Night.

Cassandra

one of the first retweets on the “epstein justice” twitter page is a post saying the pizzagate is real and tagging qanon influencers. epstein’s victims deserve better than grifters like bryant and you should be embarrassed for boosting this guy

Cassandra

the entire feed is trump supporters and blatant antisemitism, this is awful. a non-profit supposedly for helping victims of sexual exploitation sharing tweets defending known pedophile Russel Brand for his crimes. disgusting

spanky bulldog

The credit union involved was able to embezzle 10s of millions of dollars because the FDIC wasnt auditing them. The Nebraska Legislature hired a private investigator whose plane disintegrated mid air during the investigation. A victim went to jail for 4 1/2 years for not pleading guilty to perjury. I dont get how you can even be interested in trueanon and not see something really disturbing in the franklin story

Return of The Mac 2nite

“Woke philosophy” what the duck is this guy talking about lmao I like how yall close the interview right after the guest destroys their own credibility

pants

Bryant’s the guy who got Epstein’s Black Book published in Gawker. So he’s got that going for him.