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Jason turned away from Thadwick, once more looking out at the city. The sun was on the verge of dipping below the horizon, painting the sky in glorious teal and gold. Long shadows were cast by the ruined buildings, and the wandering giant’s distended flesh took on a strange green hue. It continued to shamble through the streets, giving no indication it had noticed their presence.

“I’m hoping you’ll take the first option,” Jason said, “although I don’t think you will, based on our conversation so far. It’s the one where you turn against the people who have been using you and stand with me. Maybe even help me clear the corruption from this place before we all get out of here together. I have places where vampires can find sanctuary, where Knowledge or Umber or whoever else will never be able to reach you.”

“The people that have been using me,” Thadwick said. “Wouldn’t I just be swapping them for you?”

Jason turned to look at him again.

“You don’t have to help me, Thadwick. Just stop hunting me. Either way, I’ll take you and your people out of here.”

“That sounds reasonable. I’ve learned that the people who are best at using others often do.”

“Can’t argue with that. I guess that brings us to option two, which is you and I duke it out. Plus, the vampires you’ve got skulking about. We both know they can’t win, even with those replica weapons they’ve got, which leaves the question of how much difference you make. How much will that sword affect me, and how well can you wield it?”

“We shall find out together.”

“No need to go jumping the gun, mate; there’s still option three.”

Turning back to the roof edge, Jason frowned.

“You’d think there’s be a railing or something. Does the afterlife not have occupational health and safety?”

He walked to the edge and sat down, his legs hanging off the side.

“Sit down, bloke. No one’s going anywhere, and neither of us would even get hurt from the fall.”

Thadwick stared at the back of Jason’s head for a long time before joining him on the edge, two arm-lengths away.

“I’m not going to lie, mate: option two feels kind of right to me. You didn’t exist when I knew Thadwick, and the last time I saw that weapon of yours. The two things came together and here you are. I’ve changed too, in all that time. It kind of feels like that sword has been chasing me, ever since I first saw it. You and me being here, it feels like coming full circle, you know?”

“I understand what you mean. You and I never met before this, yet I feel like I have been deeply shaped by the hatred of you in my memories.”

“It would be a knock-down, drag-out thing. One for the ages. But it’s not the smart play. You see, I am wary of that weapon. Without the more cosmic aspects of my power to hold it together, this avatar is very vulnerable to that thing. Not to mention, this avatar is more of a first-draft situation. My next one is going to be stronger, but that doesn’t do me any good now. You take it out here and I’ll just be a corpse doing nothing until the binding on it finally expires. While that’s happening, a lot of people are going to get hurt. This place will probably fall back into corruption. My avatar might even go undead and fall to the corruption itself.”

“I was sent here to make that happen, and I will honour my promises.”

“Like I said, there’s three options. The thing is, you only get to decide whether to take option one. If you don’t, options two and three are on me. Option two feels right, but option three is the smart pick.”

“What is option three?”

“You’ve got your vampire army, but I’m sure you’ve noticed that it’s only the third biggest army here. The corruption is number one, and number two is all the people I’ve saved from it. They’re a big army, full of warriors, hunters and the like. They’re smart, they’re skilled, and they’re very grateful to me. They’re also not big on the idea of you killing me.”

“The shadow man didn’t seem to think that killing you was possible. Just slowing you down.”

“Yeah, pretty much. Time is the one thing you can cost me and the one thing I can’t spare. Which is why that army is waiting for my signal. Eyes in the sky. And when I give it, a bunch of portals will open and they’ll pour through, dealing with you and your vampire horde. While they’re doing that, I’ll go see what I can do about fighting the Jolly Green Jason. They’ll deny you the fight you came here to have.”

“It won’t be that simple. My agreement was not to keep the other vampires alive. I can ignore that army and go for you. I know the cleansed souls will be wary of returning to a corrupt state and will not want to go near the giant thing that looks like you.”

“Maybe. And you’re doing this to, what did you say? Honour your promise?”

“Yes.”

“Because honour and integrity are what make you different from that body’s original owner.”

“Yes.”

Jason let out a sigh.

“What are they for, Thadwick? Honour and integrity. What’s their purpose?”

“They are the purpose. Upholding them as principles is the very point of them.”

“I don’t see it that way. They have value, don’t get me wrong, but they are ultimately rule systems. Structures. And like all structures, they are rigid by nature. They might work for most situations, but not all. They can even cause harm when strictly adhered to in the wrong circumstance.”

“It is easy to justify surrendering one’s integrity. I have seen it many times in my memories.”

“I know you have, and I’m not saying that your principles are without purpose, but they are means to an end. For you, that means not being like Thadwick.”

“Yes.”

“Why not?”

“Thadwick was a bad person. He made everyone and everything around him worse.”

“Yes, he did. You could say that being a good person is leaving things better, or at least no worse than you found them. It’s a simple enough concept, but simple is not the same thing as easy. That’s why we have structures like honour and integrity to help us navigate it. I’m not going to tell you what you are or what you should be, Thadwick. But if you’re looking for the opposite of Old Thadwick, it isn’t a man of honour and integrity, it’s just being a good person. That’s a lot harder to navigate, trust me, but it’s much more worthwhile.”

“Are you a man of honour?”

“No. I try to be a man of integrity, but it’s hard to know what that is sometimes. I can tell you that I’ve made allies, with the intention of betraying them from the very start. I’ve told lies and killed without mercy. Manipulated friends and enemies alike. Through it all, I’ve tried to be a good person, but the right answers aren’t always easy, and sometimes all your options are bad. Having power means being responsible for it. It’s not good enough to watch people that you could have saved burn and say that you made the honourable choice. Sometimes the right thing means sacrifice. I’ve sacrificed honour and integrity both to do what I thought was right, and I didn’t like it. What that did to me. That’s what makes it a sacrifice.”

“What you’re suggesting doesn’t sound so reasonable anymore.”

“Oh, good. I thought I was losing my touch.”

“You are positing a situation where breaking my word does more good than harm. You are also assuming that doing good is what I want, because that is the opposite of what Thadwick was, but he never did anything to be bad. When he hurt someone, he believed that it was because they had wronged him. Taken what was rightfully his, or failed to give him the respect he deserved. He was selfish, arrogant, greedy, petty and self-deluding, but he was not evil for its own sake.”

“No one ever is. In the end, most evil comes down to selfishness and lack of empathy. Someone wants something and don’t care enough about who they hurt in taking it. Thadwick, there are moments that define who you are. They might be big or small, but usually big when you have power like ours. What matters is that you have to look at yourself and decide if you’re the person who does this thing, or the person who never would. I’ve had a few of those, and I haven’t always liked the conclusion I came to. Sacrificing your principles may be the best option you have, but that doesn’t mean it feels good. Or right, even when it is.”

“You think I face such a choice here?”

“I do. You see, the corruption in this place is changing, almost certainly becoming more dangerous. Going forward, I can’t face it while worrying about you at my back with a knife in your hand.”

“That’s why you came here now,” Thadwick said, looking at the horizon as the sky grew dark. “You were giving me the opportunity to confront you in as favourable conditions as I could hope for. With another enemy ahead, one your allies would be wary of, and a battle without sunlight.”

“Yes.”

“And you still believe you can win?”

“When Umber brought you here, I’m guessing that he told you something along the lines of that without access to my cosmic powers, I was just a gold-rank adventurer.”

“Something like that, yes.”

Jason nodded.

“Yeah, I thought he might. He’s the type to focus on the power and not the effort. All the cosmic power stuff, it mostly just happened. Right place, right time and a lot of luck. My skills and accomplishments as an adventurer get overlooked under all of that, but I earned the strength of my arm. I was taught by good people; I trained diligently. Pushed everything they taught me to the limit and then past it. Sacrificed to get stronger, not for the strength itself but because that was what I needed. A lot of times, it almost killed me. A few times, it did. I’m not just an adventurer, Thadwick. I am an Adventurer, and woe betide anyone who looks down on that.”

Jason got to his feet.

“Mercy is a luxury of the strong, and the people who sent me here sealed my strength away. I can no longer have you lurking in the shadows, so today, you either step into the light or learn that there are worse things in the dark than vampires. If you fight me, I will kill you and all your people. Every one of them. Then I’ll take your weapon and probably turn it into my next strange power. Maybe I’ll find a way to make an avatar out of it and become a true terror to the messengers.”

Thadwick stood up and the two men faced each other.

“That’s the choice, then,” Thadwick said. “Fight, and risk all of my people, or break my word. Sacrifice my integrity.”

“If that’s what you think integrity is. For me, integrity is being true to myself, whatever that costs. And your view of the choice in front of you isn’t complete. Let’s say we fight and you win. I go down, and however many of your people survived are safe. All the people relying on me, here in this realm and back on my homeworld, suffer the consequences. Knowledge gets what she wants. Umber gets what he wants. Millions die. Souls fall back into corruption. But you get to feel good that you kept your word. The thing that mattered to you happened, however many had to suffer for it. How exactly does that make you any different from the last Thadwick?”

Thadwick flinched.

“Now, what happens if you break your word? Your people live, and I can get to work saving mine. And you have to start figuring out who you are when you don’t have simple, rigid principles to hold onto. When you have to take responsibility for your choices.”

Thadwick turned from Jason’s gaze, looking out over a city now plunged into darkness. He stayed silent for a long time before he spoke.

“You said that you knew I would come tonight.”

“It wasn’t hard to guess. You’re not headquartered far from here. Right timing, right circumstances. The opportunity you’ve been waiting for.”

“You know where we’ve been hiding?”

“We found you years ago. Eyes in the sky.

“You could have come for us.”

“Yes. The others wanted to, but I held them back.”

“Why?”

“I wanted to give you this chance, on as close to your own terms as I could.”

“Why?”

“Mercy.”

“I thought mercy was a luxury of the strong.”

“I have strength enough for you, Thadwick, but only if you choose it. I’m not strong enough to force you to accept it.”

Jason paced running his hand through his hair.

“This has been a long time coming, Thadwick, but maybe a story doesn’t have to end in a fight. Maybe it can end in a choice. What do you think?”

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Timothy

Why is Jason sounding like Colossus from Deadpool 1??? - " One or two moments, Wade."

Psykohamster

[INSERT PROFANITY LADEN RANT ABOUT CLIFFHANGERS]

Fi

Tftc :3

Nathan

“I like giving people choices.” -Jason Asano

Kingsley

That final line feels very foreshadow-y for the end of the series.

Christian Kalemkiewicz

Look at Jason, learning from his mistakes. Assuming Thadwick takes him up on his offer, I wouldn’t be surprised if Shade appears later and compliments him.

David Harshman

I could see it. Except...Jason definitely doesn't have the strength to offer Mercy to Knowledge. At most, he can offer Mercy to her people.

Malnayil

Even a broken clock is right twice a day, Mr. Asano

Maximilian Riedl

So they could ne finally Friends? Please Take choice one

Jordan Jones

I like this conversation and find it persuasive. Also, Umber arguably acted in bad faith/the vampires didn’t have much choice but to agree to this, IIRC, even knowing that they are being played and have little expectation of safety after this is done regardless of the outcome. Commitments made under coercion or threats, explicit, implicit, or circumstantial, should not be binding under any sort of ethics I am aware of. If the vampires are mercenaries and the contract has these problems, I’m not sure it would be a violation of honor or integrity to break the commitment in self preservation.

Andrew

Fundamentally, Thadwick would never be Jason's friend. So, that's probably the biggest thing he could ever do to be different from the original - being friends with Jason.

Josh A

Much better than I had been thinking. I'd considered Jason threatening remuneration that lasts an eternity, if Thadwick cost him family and friends, but that's not the Jason we have now. Thanks Shirt!

scrombles

To protect the world from devastation

PapaJohn

It would be glorious if Jason and Thadwick can be friends at the end of all this! They’re similar enough! …but it always ends in a fight.

Jeff

I...I kind of hope they fight. Jason turning that sword into another weird power boost sounds great

NicN

Tftc

Marter

Oh good, I’m not the only one lol.

Andrew

Okay, it's getting to the point where you could make Jason saying "I’ve made allies, with the intention of betraying them from the very start" a drinking game. It's starting to feel like he says that to everyone he meets now.

Darth Bob

Ok I’m starting to get back on board with this Thadwick thing?!?!?

Dalth

Option one: Meet New Thadwick! With options and features including selfishness and pettiness. Same features as Old Thadwick! Option two: Meet New Thadwick. He doesn’t get everyone around him killed for his own ego.

Dalth

And unfortunately, Knowledge’s people would never accept it. Because they have all those divine essences and awakening stones; their only options are do as Knowledge says, or a whole lotta pain. And the pain part requires conviction.

Samuel Britt

I'm sure most of us saw this coming. I also think most of us hope Thadwick accepts mercy, someone finally seeing Jason's monolog for what it is; honest hope for something better. I do still wish Jason mentioned option 4, Thadwick does something Jason and his allies didn't predict. The recognition that he isn't infallible and makes mistakes. It's a lesson he's learned enough times.

Champ Bob

So it's New Thadwick's turn to have some self revelations... oh no... Jason might accidentally bring Thadwick to Diamond Rank and make a much bigger problem for himself

Xksi

She's a goddess, the means to kill her are nebulous. Semi quoting jason in this episode: he probably absorbs her and turn it into his next strange power xD

Gotrek65

Thadwick redemption! I hope him as a new being can choose better for himself!

Chuck Haeberle

"Hi, my name's Jason. Making allies with the intention of betraying them is kind of my thing." "Sir this is a Wendy's"

Stephanie Washburn

Yeah this is really nice. Also upon reflection, we've got Jason giving another version of the villain speech again. It's just this one is the "are you sure fighting me is the end of your little quest?" Speech.

Stephanie Washburn

Wait a SECOND. I was so caught up in this being Jason's kind of honor, that I didn't notice. But this is Thadwick the Hero finally confronts the villain conquering the afterlife, only to receive a tired speech interrogating his morals - Tune in next time for "Will the hero fight the final boss?!"

Kaelan Spears

This is great, problem is, Thadwick made a soul binding promise to Umber. This is going to cripple him, unless Jason does some soul engineering Edit: I might be wrong. It said "strong contract magic" but I assumed it was a soul contract like the one Jason made with Death

Willow Peak

I hope Vampwick accepts mercy. On some level, he has to recognize that Knowledge, Umber and the Messengers view him as at best a tool and at worse a loose end. Even if he succeeds in destroying Jason's avatar, Umber has no incentive to extract him and the other vampires from this realm. But regardless of how that song plays out, I cannot wait to see how Jason incorporates that sword into his own powerset. It'd be a handy tool for his upcoming jihad against the Orthedoxy and maybe even offer insights into how to slay a God.

Marcus Billups

I was kind of looking forward to this fight Thadwick couldn’t possibly win but more allies is better.

Jose Alvarez

Shoot her power remains in the essences and awakening stones, just like purity and her power that didn't dissipate from the active purity priests.

Jose Alvarez

I dont know about this choice. Arbor got the choice based on him needing help, and now Thadwick based on mercy. If Thadwick takes choice ONE it would be cool to see another of his abilities go up to Diamond.

Darkdragon

To denounce the evils of truth and love!

Zazaan

Man, Jason has changed so much over this series. I wonder if Thadwich will make the smart choice or the easy choice tho.

Jacqui Andronicos

This is a good discussion, and it gives Thadwock something to actually consider. And Jason is right in saying going through with it is exactly what Thadwick would do, because it's what he wants consequences be damned.

Adrian

I think New Thad wick is a little smarter than Old Thad wick. he can read between the lines 😉

Adrian

I'm looking forward for Jason beta testing his plan to end Knowledge on Umber first...

Samuel Britt

Hubris has always been Jason's greatest weakness. I suppose 1000+ chapters can't change that

Stephanie Washburn

I feel like if they fight, this version of Jason dies and he loses the progress made here. There's no connection remaining to his greater self. Or the connection is wrong. The man was "forced" to modify his own soul to wind up in this place. Who knows what changes they forced upon him.

StarkRG

Take the out, Thadwick. It's someone old Thadwick would never have done in a billion years.

StarkRG

Sanction Umber to be Earth's death God, then sanction Knowledge to be the god of nowledge of some random space debris in deep intergalactic space. She will never learn anything new ever again.

james foster

I still prefer Vladwick to Vampwick.

StarkRG

An energy vampire with the mangled soul of a Reaper cultist sounds good to have on the payroll. I wonder how the Reaper feels about what Umber did to his adherent.

StarkRG

As If Jason would eat fast food. Or did you mean the Australian ice cream shop?

Tim

Because there are only so many ways you can say a thing, and Colossus wouldnt be the first to have said it.

wyatt

A big thread in this arc is the choices jason makes while ascending into something greater..will shape what he becomes. The fact he is offering mercy at this point will likely have an impact.

Timothy

It just popped in my head.

mockery jones

Epic monologue. Right up there with Humphreys “I am the geller” speech.

Arakrin

Because he is repeating what he heard from his teachers, and what he learned the hard way. It was put to him pretty much the same way by others, including Rufus, Arabelle, and most importantly his father.

Arakrin

Thanks for the chapter :)

granndfunk

Question is, does the choice happen here and the fight happen later, or does the fight happen here and the choice later?

granndfunk

Nice, that's the growth I like to see

Teddy Torres

I hope Jason knows that in this moment his brother and everyone else he lost would be so gods damn proud of him

Reaperess

If you know the other person isn't going to keep their word and hold up their end of the bargain even if you do, whaf incentive is there to do the thing? You KNOW they're going to betray you, and you KNOW that doing so holds no benifet to anyone except the one who is going to betray you. And not doing it will save lives. At worst, Its the Trolly Problem, except Umber is telling you to kill and enslave an entire planet.

Damaddino

Jason out there using Talk no Jutsu.

Kyle Hunter

I hate how much Jason had grown as a person, solely because him pissing on Thadwick was hilarious.

BBjace

Jason used Talk no Jutsu

Joe

I loved how casually he mentioned taking his weapon and making it his new weird power / avatar. 😂😂 Would enjoy for Jason to flip the script and come out of there with Thadwick as an ally. Ready for diamond rank & reuniting!

ReadingObsessed

Chills. Genuine chills. A multi screenshot worthy chapter. 10/10 best series ever.

Gh0st-Hunt3r

Ooooooooo! He totally just pretty much told Thadwick like that he's pretty much the same old thaddy LOL and he was right🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

CaptainYumYum12

Jason must have spent some time reading Naruto with that talknojutsu

Bitterblue Songbird

C'MON THADDY I'm rooting for you here!!! Make the right choice! God I love these books.

Nathan

Shirt… I want to thank you. Jason’s mental journey and mine have been mirroring eachotherZ

Nathan

Shirt. I’m so thabkful

Nathan

Shirt, I’m so thankful. Jason’s journey through our effects on others lives has genuinely helped me so much. His maturation has been something that helped me process thoughts I had been having at the time when I started reading your books. Watching him make mistakes is notices in myself. Then seeing him see them the same way I did immediately hooked me. I’m not sure everyone who reads your books will all love the shift to fighting with ideas and concepts and philosophy. But it’s why this is my favorite series of all time. And will be a series I recommend to every person to help get into thinking in this way.

Kaladin

He who fights with the morally grey

Christopher Findlay

But Jason as a great astral being can offer essences and dawn is building him a cult of the system

A. Person

An Essence of the System... What kind of powers would that unlock? Metamagic, powers that solely interact with other powers either of yourself, your allies or your enemies? Analytical abilites?

Tim

Well, the Reaper Cult is just that...a cult...there are no contracts. Umber is the shadow of the being they glorify, I doubt he even had to try that hard. But then you have whatshername, the vamp he turned, she wasnt very happy with the situation, but once youre a vamp, whatya gon do yo? 🤷

Roguefalcan

To extend our reach to the stars above!

Roguefalcan

Half expected a power to reach diamond in the middle of that speech lol.

David Yow

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought GABs couldn't do Divine Essences or Awakening Stones. I think it's in Book 2, during the Reaper Trials, that we find that out. They get their Authority Tokens and Blessings; Gods get Divine Essences and Awakening Stones; and Astral Kings are weirdos with Voices of the Will. Not that Jason isn't a blend of all three and couldn't knock a few out as Hegemon... I just imagined Jason giving someone a Divine Essence, an Astral Blessing, and then promoting them to Voice, and the other GABs just looking at him like, 'Dude, wtf? No fair.'

Ben

It's nothing flashy, no fighting and no tears (RIP Garry), but it's some of your finest work Shirt.

Scrubzero66

I now want to see a Shab as a Pokemon

Scrubzero66

Oh that should be the next plushie... Shabby the Shab

Phil

Evidence says that it’s a lesson that he has received multiple times, yet has not learned.

David Harshman

@Christopher Findlay. Great Astral Beings don't offer Essences...they offer Starseeds... That said, Jason does have a Deific element, and those do offer Essences.

Dalth

@David Yow - Awakening Stone of the Reaper would like to have words with you. That’s the one he got the ability to summon Shade from. GAB can do awakening stones, blessings, and gift modifications, but they have no ability to pull those back after giving them. GAB cannot do divine stones or essences, yes.

Paul Birchenough

It's the old trope from The Iluminatus Trilogy, well it's probably some famous philosopher's work, but I first read it in Illuminatus. It's the idea that any agreement can only exist between equals, otherwise there is some form of coersion implicit in any negotiation.

Troy Telford

I am in LOVE with who Jason has become! And With this chapter! ❤️❤️❤️❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

KyoDaDungeon!!

Is this really a Thadwick redemption cause its been said several times hes not Thadwick

Kalanaere

Jason says he has enough power, Umber told Thadwick that Jason was just another Gold with no access to cosmic power Now we add in Jason training with Raythe and my thought is Thadwick now has to contend with a Diamond Jason

CritHappens

Ahhhhh. The Thadwick redemption arc. I’m so happy right now. He probably won’t go for it, but he might.

CritHappens

On reflection Jason probably needs that sword and a crazy new power to deal with Knowledge and Jamis Fran Muskar ( who for some reason I have nicknamed Fenton in my head). There still could be redemption though even after new Thadwick is defeated as long as he doesn’t kill him.