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“…and that was when the Reaper accepted my humble petition,” Jason said, wrapping up his explanation. He looked around at a room full of people looking back in various states of confusion, surprise, disbelief and, in Farrah’s case, pointed scepticism.

“Humble petition?” she asked.

“Yep,” Jason said shamelessly.

They were in the observation lounge of Jason’s space station, the planet below dominating the view through the glass wall. Along with Farrah, Raythe, Thadwick and Melissa were four disembodied souls, Lalia, Baloc, Aeora and Yujin.

“The Reaper hates resurrecting people,” Raythe said.

“Really?” Jason asked. “He brought Farrah back.”

“And worked with the Pallimustan goddess Death to make resurrection magic weaker across the entire universe,” Raythe pointed out. “You have no idea how wide the impact of the things you do is. Earth and Pallimustus are just singular planets in vast universes, yet the ramifications of events there have affected whole galaxies you will never see. Planets that will never know why disaster struck.”

“I’d love to meet aliens.”

“You’ve met numerous species from across multiple dimensions,” Farrah pointed out.

“Dimensional aliens are great, don’t get me wrong, but aliens from space? There’s something special there, you have to admit.”

“I really don’t.”

While Jason, Farrah and Raythe bickered, the translucent souls in the room were processing the bargain Jason had struck.

“We can come back to life?” Lalia asked, still not believing it.

“If you like,” Jason said, his amusement at prodding Farrah shifting to a sincere smile. “It’s not a decision to be made quickly or lightly. There’s no going back to the life you had before. You lived billions of years ago. Only Raythe here might know how many. Whatever world you lived on is almost certainly gone. Maybe your whole universe. If your society still exists, it will probably be unrecognisable to you. If you do choose to come back, you’ll need to start over from scratch. You’ve earned your eternal reward, and that was taken from you. Honestly, going back to it is probably the best choice.”

“I still don’t see why the Reaper would even offer this,” Yujin said. “It seems antithetical to its purpose.”

“Its purpose got more than a little lost,” Jason told him. “The Reaper was at least partly responsible for the sundering of the throne and the corruption of an afterlife that should have been its first responsibility. I doubt yours was the only one to go wrong. You could see this as a form of penance.”

“The idea of penance would not even occur to a great astral being,” Raythe said.

“I’m a great astral being,” Jason pointed out, the amusement gone from his voice. “It plays on my mind a lot.”

“That is the thinking of a mortal mind. Even when acting through a vessel, penance is not a concept that would even enter the Reaper’s conception.”

“Agreed,” Farrah said. “It’s more like the thinking of someone with a grudge and more power than sense, forcing the Reaper to do the thing it hates most.”

“How would anyone force the Reaper to do anything?” Yujin asked. “Is it not the embodiment of death itself?”

“That’s more gods of death,” Jason said. “The Reaper is more about post-death aftercare, but you make a solid point. You can’t just make the Reaper do things.”

“What did you do, Jason?” Farrah asked. “Threaten to overthrow the whole cosmic order if the Reaper didn’t do as it was told?”

“Of course not. Didn’t you hear the bit about the humble beseeching? What even is the cosmic order, and how would I even go about overthrowing it? I probably haven’t thought about it at all.”

“Did you just say ‘probably?’” Melissa asked.

“I don’t think I did.”

“I will resume my place amongst the living,” Baloc said, the imposing orc’s voice cutting through the banter. He had been standing with his back to the group, eyes locked on the planet below.

Jason rose from his luxurious cloud couch and walked over to the much bigger man.

“You don’t have to make that choice quickly, Baloc. In fact, I strongly recommend you don’t.”

“I could do nothing about the corruption,” Baloc said. “It was an enemy I had no weapons to fight. I died believing that I had reached the end of my path as a warrior but I realise that it is a road without end. You have shown me, Jason Asano, that a true warrior can makes the stars themselves his enemy in the boundless pursuit of conquest.”

“Uh, that’s great, Baloc, mate, but maybe we table the ‘rampage across the stars’ plan for right this second. A lot of details still need to be worked out with the Reaper’s bloke Velius. Enough time that we can have a few chats on the virtue of not murdering your way across the galaxy.”

Baloc let out a bellowing laugh and slapped a heavy hand on Jason’s shoulders.

“You will make a fun enemy, Jason Asano.”

***

“I do have a vampire planet floating around,” Jason told Thadwick, “but I think I’ll leave your people here for now. It’s something of a prison planet for the bad ones. Not entirely, but it’s a whole thing. I’ll put you and yours in my populated city on this planet for now, and eventually the vampire city I have back on Earth. I just can’t send you there right now; if I touch the Earth with an active power it will get invaded by diamond-rankers.”

Farrah took Melissa, the afterlife’s singular living refugee, to the city of New Water. As for the dead souls, Jason didn’t want to drop a planet’s worth of ghosts on the locals, especially with so many freshly uncorrupted and even more confused than the rest. He created a continent-sized megacity made of ice to float on one of the larger oceans and sent them all there until more permanent solutions could be organised.

Jason and Raythe remained on the space station. They sat across from one another, sinking into the plush cloud-stuff of the furniture. She took the opportunity of not being surrounded by people or the aftermath of planetary destruction to look him over.

“Your avatar is much better,” she observed. “Did you use the phoenix form to somehow remake it according to what I taught you?”

“That was always part of the plan. Building a fresh avatar to hold my diamond-rank power would take too long. Since my prime avatar was being recreated anyway with the phoenix rebirth effect, I took the opportunity to make some tweaks.”

“Those are more than tweaks. You’ve redesigned it from the ground up.”

“You’re a good teacher.”

“Now that you have your freedom and a functional prime avatar, what will you do?”

“Find my friends, figure out how to kill Knowledge and then put her down.”

“Any thoughts on how?”

“One. But I think you already know what it is.”

She nodded.

“I believe so. It’s the right choice.”

“Because it will give me a way to kill a god?”

“Because it will lead you where the cosmos needs you to be.”

They sat, Jason’s face marred with a scowl.

“You’re not happy with me,” she said.

“We made a deal. I back off on the time travel and allow my world to be invaded, and you promised to help me when no one else could. Now, people on earth are dying because I acted in good faith. You didn’t.”

“I helped you.”

“You know the help I wanted. To escape, so I could help my world.”

“There were limits on what I could do, but even if I could have returned you to Earth, you weren’t ready. What I did give you was what you needed. How many years would it be before you were able to act outside of your astral kingdom if I hadn’t taught you how to craft better avatars? When would you have reached diamond-rank and gotten free of that afterlife if I hadn’t pushed you? I gave you the tools to escape and move forward.”

“In the direction you wanted. Funny how the second you don’t like what was happening, the rule about not being able to take me out of that place went away.”

“There were specifics circumstances—”

“There always are. Always reasons that I have to do what I’m told.”

“Yet you never seem to do it.”

“I ALWAYS do it when it matters!”

Frowning, he closed his eyes and leaned back into the cloud couch, letting the glorious softness envelop him. He took slow, calming breaths as Raythe watched in silence, waiting to see how volatile he would be when he spoke again.

“Justify it however you like,” he said softly. “Say your hands were tied and that you did what you could. Pick over the details all day long, but it doesn’t change the fact that I upheld the spirit of our agreement and you did not. Everything else is noise.”

“What I did was for your own good.”

“But you don’t really mean my good, do you? You mean the greater good, as you see it. You don’t care about what I want, only what you think I need, and it’s not really my needs you’re concerned with. You were putting me in a position to serve the needs of the cosmos.”

“You would have chosen that path for yourself, if given the choice.”

“But I wasn’t, was I?”

“No.”

“Why not?”

“If you could have seen the right path clearly, you would have chosen it. We know this because you’ve made similar decisions in the past. This time, your vision was obscured and you couldn’t see the correct way forward. You’re too young. Too caught up in mortal concerns. We had to guide you onto the road you would have chosen for yourself if you could.”

“Do you have any idea how condescending that sounds?”

“Yes, but we treat you like a child because, cosmically speaking, you are one. I’m sorry, but that’s just the truth. You aren’t old enough to see that ephemeral concerns simply don’t matter in the face of eternity.”

“Ephemeral concerns like my family. My friends. Every person on the planet I’m from.”

“Yes.”

“And what is this great purpose you have for me?”

“I think you already know. You all but admitted as much a moment ago. Perhaps you’re denying it in your own mind because it isn’t what you want.”

“So, I should what? Let myself be a pawn of fate to the end?”

“You still don’t understand. The reason you are here is not because it’s where destiny put you. It’s because this is where you put yourself. Your actions, your choices. You keep accusing us of manipulating you; we’re simply clearing the weeds from your path. You think we’re getting in your way, but the truth is, we’re getting out of it. What we want is for you to be who you are. Who you’ve chosen to be, time and again. We didn’t come out and tell you because it was a choice you had to make for yourself. We simply accelerated the arrival of that decision.”

“I told you.”

“Told me what?”

“That you can pick over the details all day, but it means nothing. Look at who you’re speaking to; I know all about talking and talking until you convince the other person that the sky is down. At the end of the day, you pushed me where you wanted me to go. The rest, as I said, is just noise.”

“I will acknowledge that we did not respect your autonomy, or understand the degree to which that was important to you. A blindingly obvious folly in hindsight. You feel that I have not lived up to my side of our agreement, so let me ask you now, what can I do? There is still much I can offer.”

Jason sighed.

“Raythe, I know that you and Dawn are friends, as are Dawn and I. But you and me? We can’t be. I’m well aware of Dawn’s divided loyalties. She serves the World-Phoenix, whose goals don’t always align with mine. The reason we met is that the World-Phoenix wanted her to nudge me in certain directions, to make certain choices, just like you’ve been doing. The difference is that Dawn actually cares about what I want, not just what I can do for her. She’s conflicted about her loyalties, and when she is able, she does what she can for me, instead of the best she can with me.”

He smiled, looking off at nothing.

“I used to say that I was good at people, not with people. Looking back, I think I’ve been trying change that about myself. For all her conflicts of loyalty, I can trust Dawn to do her best for me, within whatever boundaries she finds herself. You, I can’t trust. You’re good at people. We can be allies, but we can’t be friends, and I’ve never liked allies. They keep betraying me. At least Dawn stabs me in the front.”

He leaned forward on the couch.

“I know you don’t care what I’m saying. I’m going on and on, as I’m wont to do, while all you’re hearing is the babble of a child. Someone too young to see the world as it really is. But you’re overlooking that in all those words is the thing you need, and you don’t even realise it. My power isn’t special, not on a cosmic scale. There’s plenty of diamond-rankers and messenger originators. I’m not even the first mortal turned great astral being. What I have is youth. You ancient immortal types are too smart, too sensible. Too accustomed to eternity. The idea of sacrifice is completely alien to you, but I do it. My friends and family grow up, grow old, while I’m off repairing the cosmic throne. They fight and die without me at their side while I’m purging a corrupted afterlife. Eventually, time will take them, if nothing else, while I’m off somewhere, doing the right thing.”

He looked out at the planet looming beyond the observation window.

“Do you not understand that they are the reason I do what I do? That their fleeting lives aren’t what makes them irrelevant but what makes them precious? You need me because I care, even as you manipulate me into setting aside the things I care about. Do you not realise that you’re working to destroy the very part of me that’s valuable to you?”

“We do care, Jason.”

“But not enough. Not enough that any of you will do what you’re pushing me into. Not because you can’t, or you won’t, but because you know that it’ll go wrong. That you won’t care enough to sacrifice your needs for everyone else’s. You don’t trust yourselves any more than I trust you.”

“You’re right. What we want from you is too important for someone who will not subordinate their own desires, their own wellbeing, to the greater good.”

“It’s a big cosmos. There’s enough people out there who’d make the same choices as me to populate a trillion worlds. What makes me the one?”

“You’re not the one who would make those choices, Jason; you’re the one who already has. I’m willing to sit here and listen for as long as you need because we both know that, in the end, you’ll make the best decision. Not for yourself but for everyone else. You always do. All we did was provide clarity, a space to make that decision with clear eyes.”

Jason scowled and got to his feet.

“It’s time for you to go, Raythe. Helsveth took my friends from Pallimustus, so tell me where I can find them and get out.”

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CJ King

Biscuits

SlimJim

I'm not going to lie, the way Jason doesn't even try to see things from the perspective of the GABs is really irritating

mhaj58

Really hope the Hegemon commands what the cosmos have taken from him. Jason has been selfless since the beginning because he internalized his mother mistreatment as something he deserves. If there’s anyone in the cosmos who deserves to live happily ever after it’s Jason

Agent P.

*tear* poor Jason.

Mason Ryel

I totally disagree but that’s ok!

Crow Says Caw

Tbh, not really a fan of “the greater good” - ever since Hot Fuzz! Too easily abused to justify heinous acts. Yarp TFTC!

Kristy Riedel

Dry biscuits. I want the big emotional reunion that has been delayed a week.

bukuwawa

Yes, because it's important that all of the established powers always drive everything and that there's not anything to ever buck them. That works great with humanity, too.

Christian Kalemkiewicz

So, the GABs are Boomers and Jason is the youthful, more mortal viewpoint the universe needs.

Shazbaz

He's finally gonna get the gang back together again!

Pycubed

Gods Travis. That was beautiful. Im actually reading the first book to my fiance every night and she's been getting into it. You really seeded everything in this story very well from the beginning. It's been a privilege to follow your story for the past few years.

buca117

Totally unrepentent. All it would take is an apology, but that requires acknowledging wrongdoing. The GABs and their vessels are so stuck up their own asses that they are fundamentally misunderstanding his motivations. "Stop thinking so small", when thinking about every individual life is exactly why he is who they want him to be. The moment he stops, he's no longer what they want. Too old to see the forest for the trees. Apparently, everyone that reaches power enough to be a GABs vessel is too disconnected from mortality to actually accomplish what they exist for, namely giving GABs a mortal perspective. Seems like a very flawed system.

jess-alino.

i snort laughed at this.

Derek Scheller

Jason is not happy, and there will be repercussions. I’m really curious to see when Farah’s defier of the will power is going to come into play though.

Josh A

Enjoy your week off! Thanks for the excellent chapter!

Phat32

I'd have to disagree. He has articulated their position multiple times and willingly got himself trapped in the corrupted afterlife for the greater good at their behest. Instead, it is they who can't see his perspective. Even just now Raythe admitted as much saying that was blindingly obvious in hindsight. Their position is "these handful of mortal lifes dont matter in the grand scheme of the cosmos" and that is something Jason simply cannot abide

Owen Kaz

Glad Jason's telling it like it is. The truth is most of the GAB could have fixed these issues, but refused because of the cost. Even now after the fixing of the throne they could ha e do e it, but instead used it as an asset to get something else they wanted. Ultimately it wouldn't surprise me if Jason becomes the Throne

Cyrille Van Daele

It is the one thing I’ve dreaded. I do not want a plot point where farrah needs to stop Jason. It’ll probably be ‘for his own good’. And keep him from a satisfying revenge because ‘it isn’t him’ or ‘this is a path you don’t want to take’

Memoryleak

Probably become Earth’s god. Lots and lots of “sacrifice” talk.

Derek Scheller

That’s what I’m thinking also, she will have to pull him off the edge when even shade can’t.

Ligeia

I really do not like the way that Raythe and the GABs only look at the Great Big Picture. Who cares if a planet full of people is destroyed if its destruction serves some grand cosmic purpose? I am 100% with Jason in valuing the lives of his family and friends even if they're "just" insignificant mortals. Jason acts to protect THEM, not the Great Big Picture! And he appears to be the only GAB -- except possibly the World-Phoenix because she recognized that Dawn needed to have a mortal perspective to be useful to her -- whether current or incipient, who recognizes that they need to remember the peoples' mortal lives, too! Raythe just doesn't get it.

Martin Tomsic

I'm guessing he either has to open the door to the Throne again, or become the true god of Earth. There is so much that Shirtaloon is still hiding though that I doubt I'm right. Neither option feels like something Jason would do, even with his back against the wall.

Austin

I'm honestly ready for him to say fuck the cosmos and be selfish for once.

Cyrille Van Daele

That would be about the least satisfying end to this wild journey. It was all a dream would be just under that. Do you really think that’ll be the end? I’m truly hoping not. Ending it with a large nerf would disappoint me greatly

shahar noach

I completely agree with you, all the other people talking in the comments, about how the cosmos keeps messing with jason are acting like children. Sometimes the greater good is more important Then the individual

Cyrille Van Daele

That would be uncharacteristic, but I’m hoping he’ll whip the GAB’s into shape one permanent time. Doing it for the greater good, but for once, the greater good aligns with his own desires.

joseph peltier

You know, with the whole “sacrifice yourself” motif, I’m getting a really bad premonition that Jason’s going to figure out how to kill himself as an immortal, and drag Earth (Knowledge/Gaia?) down with him. :(

Aizen Weeks

I love the irony of his mortal mind being what frustrates the Great Astral Beings but their most mortal act was getting whiny and breaking cosmic law. You all made the mess, and didn't fix it for billions of years. You can get off his back for doing his way!!

Memoryleak

I am also hoping it isn’t, but it has been leading that way.

Ross

I'm curious how "figure out how to kill Knowledge and then put her down." Is really two separate things. I get it, it's like diamond rankers coming back after dying and needing to keep them down - but that seems like the real definition of "killing" as opposed to "scattering their atoms/energy until they can reconstitute...

NicN

Tftc

Martin Tomsic

Of the prime vessels that we've gotten to know, Raythe is the only one that is like that. Dawn, Velius, and even Shako have had contrasting perspectives to their GABs to one degree or another. They just have acknowledged that they do not have the power to countermand them. This actually adds more credence to my thought that Raythe is the Keeper of the Sands, or has somehow merged with the Keeper of the Sands and is not truly like the other prime vessels of the GABs.

Cyrille Van Daele

I’m really hoping this series doesn’t end on a sacrificing note where he gives up all this power for friends and family. It would be anticlimactic even if it fits his character. Even if he still gets to be with his friends and family after, and technically gets what he wants. I’m truly hoping Shirtaloon ends the series with a big win, and big middle finger towards Knowledge, and the GABs. It’s time he truly wins.

james foster

I'm afraid the only way to do that will be to sit on the throne.

Gh0st-Hunt3r

He could just put everyone he cares about and loves and put them in his astral kingdom and turn off death there, they'll never die.....PERIOD thats what I'd do for the ones I love.

Yzergin

It tweaked Earth and Palli at the same time, they are in different universes, they are not close, their closeness is by accessibility through astral bridge, not through low distance.

Ross

I don't see how becoming the God of Earth is (a) for the greater good at all (it would be the selfish thing to protect the people he cares about directly), or (b) how becoming God (first) would kill Knowledge instead of just preventing her from transporting to Earth because there isn't enough magic for two gods. If she transfer to Earth first AND he kills her, there is no requirement for him to become God to fill the void. Earth has enough magic for a god now and survived just fine without one. I think the real answer is destroying Earth once she binds herself to it.. . Because Knowledge has already said (to Gabriella at the end of Book 13 iirc) that she plans to become the God of the universe and beyond - to transcend being God of a single planet. I expect that's a threat to the cosmic order. I lean towards accessing the throne again. There was a recent chapter where Jason remembers the door to the cosmic throne in his space station and realizes he was wrong to think it would never be used again.

Kevin McKinney

I am very much hoping that Jason can point out the consequences in a very real and personal way to the GABs and their vessels.

Yzergin

Well to be clear it tweaked their universes this way, not just the planets. It was universe seeds, not planetary seeds if I remember correctly...

Cyrille Van Daele

That was comprehensive, thank you. I agree, but would Jason truly destroy Earth? Only when absolutely forced, I guess

Kemizle

Whatever Jason is supposed to do I hope he makes all the GAB’s pay the cost instead of him they’ve played this game too many times now

Cyrille Van Daele

Oh, that’s even better than winning. Show em where it truly hurts. Yes, sir!

Volfan89

I think it's more 1. Find out how 2. Do the thing

Samuel Britt

I might see where this story has been headed all along. Its not like its been hiden even. I think it ends with Jason finding his place in the cosmos as the Adventurer, a transcendent thats a mix of many things so he can be what an adventurer is. The one that stands between an uncaring cosmos and the people caught in its wake. The System Administrator guides. The Hedgemon judges and intercedes. Jason cares and sacrifices and keeps the rest of himself in check.

JW Saxby

Great set up 👍🏼 can’t wait to see his reunion with everyone before the big battle 😁 Tyftc 🍻

Cyrille Van Daele

Love this take! Very fitting. A filter between the immortals and the people feeling the consequences.

james bates

You know i think all the prime vessels and perhaps the other GAB all see jason as a child that loosely has the authority for the GAB power of "The system" and dont really see Jason as a GAB yet. I think they dont yet realize "the system" doesn't exist as a GAB. Jason awoke as the GAB called "The Hegemon" and "The Hegemon" just happens to be the administrator for the gift he gave the cosmos called "The System" Note: I maybe wrong in my theories of things.

Cyrille Van Daele

Oohhh! Exciting! Maybe he didn’t give up the throne at all, or he made it so that he is the judge.

Martin Tomsic

They have said before that the Builder's job is to create "universe seeds", which are the singularities that are the birth of universes. They are supposed to be hands-off after that point. The Builder made twin seeds that were nearly identical except for their magic levels and then let them grow on their own after the creation. Earth and Pallimustus are where the twins ended up being conjoined.

viperfan7

So raythe is a prime avatar, not prim vessel

Dalth

This. Raythe and Vellis. They are mortal minds because their owners cannot think that small. And Raythe and Vellis in turn push for things to go how they want them to, without understanding Jason’s position at all. Dawn was the only trustworthy one because she was explicitly trying to Transcend, and no longer be a mortal tool. Phoenix’s last orders to Dawn were pretty much “remember what it means to be human.” It’s like eternity and diamond rank calcify into a toxic cycle. The whole pull back for diamond rankers is the lead vessel for GABs. And it’s disgusting because it’s entirely possible to be humane at diamond and still interact with society. Remore runs a school. Yarish diamond Alleyeth just hangs out. Moon Kingdom is run by a diamond ranker, with respect for laws. Sorimar still exists and helps his dynasty. Yes all those have flaws but it’s not to the nature of vessels and really old diamonds who basically treat everyone as a tool. Shako is an excellent counterpoint to Sorimar. They both founded a dynasty. Shako steps in to prevent consequences. Sorimar has hierarchy and an expectation of duty. But repeatedly. For the five good diamond rankers, every single other one has this policy of “you’re diamond now. This means everyone below you is now a tool.”

james bates

Jason may have let go of the power of the throne, but I dont think the throne let go of Jason. The cosmic order is still broken and I think the throne recognizes someone needs to use it's full power to fully fix it.

Jaq Thorne

I wonder what happened to the original being that sat on that throne. Hopefully they don't take offense to Jason taking their place.

Ross

Reading it again, I'm almost certain it has to do with his connection to the cosmic throne. “I believe so. It’s the right choice.” “Because it will give me a way to kill a god?” “Because it will lead you where the cosmos needs you to be.” My fear based on that text is that Jason is going to have to bind himself to the throne permanently and give up being an individual (shifting into "overseer" mode forever like the other GABs).

Cyrille Van Daele

Jason could choose to go in that mode permanetly, while Farrah can pull him out from time to time as the Defier of his will? I’m not good at remembering the facts, but that sounds plausible? It would be a plot point for the Defier that I’d like actually.

Geoff

Become the Hegemon. The GAB's need someone to police them. To constantly evolve the Cosmic Throne / System as time drones on and conditions/necessities of the GAB's change.

james bates

I think both sides are right. One is saying "for the greater good of the cosmos" and the other is saying "and who decides what the greater good is?" Both sides are in the right here. Jason is angry and hurting because what everyone more powerful then him have been telling him from book one is "do it this way it is for your good" and no one will answer the "why" questions of "cosmic child jason". It feels like bad parenting never letting the child make a mistake or explaining why to them or saying sorry it hurt and sympathizing with them. But this is just my opinion.

m meh

to kill a god you need to kill their planet...

MentalLogic

Ugghh sensible Jason is just wayyyyy to frustrating.... Once this shit is done with knowledge he needs to deal with all these morons who keep messing with him "for his own good"

Justin Crisler

I am going to be perfectly blunt. If he ends up as “the god of earth” and is stuck there and that is how it ends, well, that would be book fucking version of how GoT ended. Completely disappointing and utterly stupid.

khil01

No, it will be her sacrificing herself instead of him.

Thalamus Dredge

I really want her to save him from himself at the last REALLY BIG sacrifice play. I'm worried that the "power to kill a god" that the GABs want him to have is going to sanction him into something that actually can't be a guy who gets to hang out with friends/family. Like a proper GAB or something of the like. And I want Farrah to be like "no, not this time." Which would be really interesting because its almost the opposite of the reason why Jason gave her that power. He wanted her to be able to stop him if he ever went full villain, but in this instance she would be pulling him back from his last big heroic sacrifice.

WallacetheNPC

Every time Shirt brings sacrifice into the conversation, I remember the snapshots we've received of Emi's life. It was a well-used device to get us to care. Hats off to Shirt!

Nebulous

This is the first chapter I've read that I was physically angry with Jason for intentionally misrepresenting things. Raythe DID do exactly what she said she would. She did help him, exactly how he needed it. He needed to be Diamond-rank for a short at the upcoming battle, Dawn has said that from the beginning. This is Jason lashing out at one of the only people that has given a crap about him (if only on behalf of others). Honestly a disappointing chapter after so many great chapters in a row. :(

Michael Romo

Not me listening to book 9 abd as soon as I finish reading "His power wasnt that of a hero, it wasnt even of a villain. It felt like the vegence of a wrathful god"....abd shirt foreshadows....a lot... haha

J

Raythe is also 100x older than the both of them. She serves the Sands and I think her time management and manipulation is far far far beyond anyone else in the cosmos. I would be surprised if Raythe is the GAB the Sands of Time in some oroboros time loop. Where is is a mortal version of the Sands always out there in some point of time to train as an avatar.

J

Did anyone catch how Jason is gonna Kill Knowledge? Hahaha I though back to in the transformation zone how he killed the Demi god of undeath. He’s gonna eat Knowledge hahahaha he’s gonna consume her like a Skill Book and every God, Astal King and GAB should fear what they made. The hegemon stirs

Bitterblue Songbird

Every time I see 'the greater good' typed out it brings me back to that Invincibles scene. Raythe: 'it's for the greater good!' Jason: ' Greater good? Greater good?? I am your Hedgemon! I'm the greatest good you're ever gonna get!'

David Benjamin Newman

*Finally* getting confirmation on something I've wondered for a long time. There are other inhabited planets within the universe.

rainydays

The thing that gets me about the argument about eternal vs ephemeral concerns that Raythe is making here is that it's inherently contradictory. if they knew that that was the choice that he'd make them they didn't need to accelerate it. If they have eternal problems they also have eternity to wait for him to be ready to make it and no reason that we know of not to. From an eternal perspective even the extended lifespans of the gold rankers his family might become are so short it makes no sense not to let him live out their lifespans with them before he heads off to do whatever he needs to do.

Thunder Common

Way back when Jason met the dream version of himself as the god king emperor who kept saying you will always become me...sitting on the cosmic throne seems kinda like foreshadowing in what book 2

Youkai-sama

The "greater good" is a frelling Delusion! Something is either Good, or LESS THAN good; guess which one the appellation falls under? It's based on the false-ass Sacrifice doctrine. "Can it Really be good if it doesn't cost something valuable?", and "The greater the price, the greater the commiserate reward, right?" Just glorifying Destruction, which is itself the Actual 7th Circle of Hell. Fuckin stoopid!

Stephanie Washburn

But like, a satisfying revenge would probably actually be terrible for Jason? That smells entirely like the bad places he got to when he was angry at everyone and taking people out by inflicting lethal aura attacks.

Stephanie Washburn

I think he already is the Cosmic Throne. He's just processing what that connection means now.

Stephanie Washburn

Yeah, I kind of agree in a way. Like, Jason does kind of have permanent "I hate you, Dad!" energy where he refuses to recognize that folks were just trying to do the best they knew how to do. Like he sees it all as evil manipulation where some of it was just giving him opportunities and letting him make something of himself. But mostly, I agree that Raythe doesn't understand how to interact with him properly beyond manipulating him.

Stephanie Washburn

I think I agree most with the feeling that both Jason and the other Great Astral Beings are right. You both need to care about the greater good and to care about individual lives. And the Great Astral Beings seem to know this, or they wouldn't have been working on raising Jason to whatever their version of adulthood is. I think that maybe they're both saying kind of the same thing in the end, which is the frustrating part - Jason will sacrifice for a mass of individuals, ultimately supporting the greater good, and they'll focus on the greater good ultimately creating what all those individuals need in order to live. Their methods and priorities are really different. But they're not really enemies the way that Jason says they are.

buca117

Pretty sure you're trolling, but on the off chance youre not, the GABs and their vessels and diamond rankers in general see the world from high up and as such can see the trends, the ebbs and flows of power, the way sometimes a butterfly here and there can affect change, but none of them are powerful enough to see things from so high up that they can see every individual life and the way each of them impact those trends, those ebbs and flows. None of them are powerful enough to truly see the whole cosmos as what it is: a collection of powerless and weak individuals going about their lives trying to survive an equally large number of weak threats to their peace and the whims of those powerful enough to think their opinions matter. As a brilliant salarian once said, "Big picture made of little pictures" There is no big picture. The cosmos is a collage. Without the little pictures, there is nothing to see. Jason understands that. He focuses on the little pictures, expanding his view only as much as he needs to to see the full impact his choices have on those little pictures. Its important to step back and observe the big picture, but if you stay back there, you let a million lives become a statistic instead of a million individual tragedies.

Malcolm

Definitely feel like one of these days Raythe is gonna realize she fucked up

Charles Dahl

More like too old to see the trees for the forest.

buca117

You guys seem to be forgetting that Jason is a diamond ranker now. As soon as things settle, he transcends to full GAB status. He's no longer subject to their plans or what they think is right. He's off his leash. That means that he can finally really, truly, just tell them all to fuck off. He can finally be Captain Kirk, finding that third option and executing it because he has the authority to do so. There'll be no one more powerful than him to tell him he can't, that the greater good is something else. He doesn't need to sacrifice from a position of weakness just to get the good end for those he cares about.

Invalid Slot

wow i completely forgot that movie existed. now its all coming back to me "narp" "yarp" was from that movie right? the weird dude from the super market

Michael Cain

I believe that is the solution as well, I'm thinking Knowledge coming to Earth is all apart of the greater plan for Jason to destroy Earth and thus remove his ties to that planet and free hik up to take on the role of sitting in the Throne, being the Hegemon overseeing everything. The hiccup in the plan is Jason considers Pallamastas as his home, so maybe those assassins of the Reaper or whatever are setting up to destroy Pally thus removing ties to either planet. Which is going to piss Jason off more than anyone thought.

Namorat

Damn, are you a real life hot fuzz villain?

Michael Romo

Its been happening He gave her the power to question him without repercussions. She talks about how she can feel his emotions, and he talks to her after the bolo thing

CompulsiveReader

I like the talk about bigger picture and as we age our viewpoint and how much we want to act now changes As you get older your viewpoint changes and you don't like change since you are constantly upset with changes you can't control. As friends and family leave and die and you have to create a new normal for you as the one that goes on.. the concept of having to do that forever...

Ocellus

I feel like it’s time for him to be a little selfish and satiate his own desires…. Not go full evil or anything against his character, but at least a little something.

StarkRG

She mentioned at the beginning that there was some big knot in time that she couldn't see through. She claimed it was Jason's doing, but what if it's hers?

StarkRG

Maybe they *have* been accelerating his development for his benefit, get him to the end as quick as possible so that he can have whatever time remains with his friends and family. Perhaps, left to his own devices, it'd have taken him a couple centuries to get where he needed to be to protect them, meanwhile they've all died.

StarkRG

Maybe, that seems a bit too simple, though.

Feu et Glace

Someone said maybe Raythe is a GAB over time herself. Maybe that explains the patience and lack of understanding, maybe she was once mortal and shares Jason's path? Maybe she's saving him from her mistakes but it's been so long she's forgetting a few important things.

StarkRG

*Maybe* she helped him, that's not a definite. What is a definite is that she didn't help Earth and that she manipulated him for her own purposes. Which is certainly something that Jason's done to others, and I hope he's taking this as a lesson why doing that really sucks.

Sloth

I feel like it’s worth considering Raythe’s perspective here. It’s my understanding that she’s basically already seen every conversation she could’ve had in multiple timelines plus the one we’re seeing as well as conversations in the future. I feel like, when you live like that, it’s kinda hard not to manipulate people no? You’d constantly be choosing which timeline is the best one to actualize. We don’t even know if she’s capable of just… not choosing? Like, the only way for her to not manipulate someone is to never interact with them in the first place, and for anything she interacts with to never interact with them either.

Rowan Merante

Well, he did just destroy a planet and reform it in his domain. He knows how now. He can go back to Earth and send the whole thing into his astral realm. Knowledge will die there. Then he can send Earth back into place again.

Crow Says Caw

Yeah that’s right. I commented a quote from the movie but I think it was removed 😅😂

J

I don’t think eating a god is ever simple, “he who fights with monster should be careful lest he become one himself” Jason has fought some serious monsters and now he is one of them.

Joe

I want to know what this way to kill knowledge is that Jason & Raytheon know. And that it’s somehow tied to his place in the cosmos. 😮‍💨 so good

Dalth

@sloth - That makes Raythe more culpable not less. Because if she can see all those dialogues of what she wants versus what matters to you, and her ignoring all of those because you are the easy piece to place as Raythe. It’s raythe’s fundamental aspect to go “this is good for you, don’t question it, and get past all this pain that this brings you” while simultaneously being the person going “it is absolutely the best option for the greater so it’s what you need, you need to do your best to save everyone, free will is important (even if you have none)”

CottonMod

The theories about "becoming a god" all miss what just happened. Jason transported a planet into his own universe and killed a demigod being. There is little stopping him from trying to do the same with Earth and Knowledge, as soon as she crosses over. IMO It is a much better alternative to just nerfing himself from GAB status and presents the same moral dilemmas Jason struggles with. Like his refusal to deprive Earthlings of their autonomy and free will. Also, future dialogue basically write itself: General: "After years claiming you don't want to be a god, you want us to agree to be transported into your personal universe that is basically the extension of your soul and where you control every aspect of reality?" Jason: "Yes, it also has free sandwiches."

Paul Birchenough

Inverse Ship of Theseus. If the H.M.S. Jason has the mast, and prow, and keel, etc. from the S.o.T. bolted on to it. When does it stop being the H.M.S. Jason and start being the resurrected Ship of Theseus? It's all very Catholic, rebuilding God by sticking all these old bits of divinity on a random Japanese-Austalian guy until he's more God than not. Hopefully the little bit of Jason that is left is his conscience, cos that God guy they're rebuilding didn't have one.

H3ll

I have more questions than anything since we have had the curtain of “death” pulled back. Where do souls actually come from? How do they have they have a factory reset before each reincarnation? Do they have to allow the reaper permission like a star seed to wipe the previous life away? The more we have seen I think leads into the way most of the immortals behave. They can see at least from my pov is that most of it has no meaning. Someone dies, eh so what they will just pop back up eventually with another chance. Now that we have seen what one afterlife is are they really any different than “regular” life? Before the corruption took over those souks seemed to have an existence similar to a Valhalla. The could fight and hunt or whatever for eternity. Honestly I’m more surprised that the truly immortal beings are not more nihilistic. From their pov it would seem like endless repetition.

RedBlitzenwood

I once read a book. I don't know if I could ever find it again but it starts with an orphaned young man stuck in a pseudo-medieval fantasy town full of people who tolerate him instead of caring for him. One of the only things I remember from that book is a scene where we're being introduced to the young man and his situation. A woman yells at him for stealing pies and accuses him of greed/gluttony. Yet the boy has seen that she's the (literally) biggest glutton in town. A man makes a snide remark (loudly) about how lazy the kid is, yet the man himself is the laziest worker in town. The boy observes that it's odd how often people accuse him of their own flaws. Looking back on that book, there's an almost tangible sensation of an idea being set onto my metaphorical table of ideas. The idea that people often see their own flaws in others. I don't know how accurate or widely applicable that idea is, but it has stuck with me. I wonder if the various immortals of the astral foodweb are in a comparable situation with Jason.

SlimJim

Damn this blew up quite a bit. Shouldn't have commentated a loaded statement like that in the middle of the night without explaining it properly lol. I actually agree with most of what was stated above in response to my comment. The GAB absolutely need the perspective Jason gives and they also need to come their high horse with the "The Needs of the Many" thing they have going on. Even though I love Star Trek and Spock, that position has it's limits and should never mean that a single person or small groups do not matter. What I was going about was more how Jason puts his feeling and positions into words, especially in this conversation, but also in general. I also want to state that I don't call that bad writing but rather a bad character trait that he has. I think someone that is as old as Jason is at that point (even though he is really young in cosmic terms) should really have better communication skills. I understand how cranky he can get and all, but man he really needs a sit down by Arabelle and/or Danielle at some point. I think in general I have a problem with people who believe in their perspective and opinions so hard that they are not willing to acknowledge that the other party might have a reason or, at the minimum, isn't acting out of malice but because they feel they are doings what right/neccessary. That doesn't mean you have to compromise on every issue or need to let the GAB run over you or anything, but the way he handles himself in that case was just irritating imo. Especially since they really did help him evolve, even though their motives and methods are more than questionable. Sorry if I rubbed anyone of you the wrong way, I didn't want to start a fight, just give my initial feelings about his way of handling things. Tldr: I agree with most of your comments, but I see his handling of his conversation with Raythe as less than ideal considering what he should have learned from Arabelle and Danielle.

Liy

I agree. Raythe has cosmic foresight. She has seen the person Jason wants to be and is helping him get there. This also happens to be the person they want him to be. For Raythe, everything conversation is probably more like a script, and she is performing a part to lead the conversation, which sometimes means deception. She may not actually disregard the little people, but she's pushing Jason to focus on them again. It's manipulative, yes, but all of her interactions with people have to be since she can see future possibilities already. Raythe isn't the one who took him from his family or attacked his planet. She's not the bad guy here.

Martin Tomsic

You're ignoring a key point of HOW the planet got transported into his universe. IT WAS BLOWN UP! He didn't shift the whole thing into his universe, he blew it up and had to collect it and reconstruct it in his universe. And the only living beings that were on the planet were gold rank or above and they got severely beaten up in the process. There is no way that normal rank Earthlings are going to survive, much less all of the plants, animals, and everything else that is living on the planet.

Martin Tomsic

I can't believe that I forgot about this until re-listening to Book 6, but Jason is "intrinsically linked" to the bridge between Earth and Pallimustus. That means that he effectively IS the bridge between the worlds. I know that this was meant as a way to keep him from dying, but we know how he ends up taking items that were meant for one thing and using them for something different. I am probably misunderstanding how it works, but does that mean that Knowledge will have to go "through" a now fully transcendent Jason to get to Earth???

Jostein 🇳🇴

I agree with what you write, except for who you direct your conclusion at. It’s the GABs, gods, diamond-rankers, governments, and organisations that always fuck things up but never listen. They don’t even try to see things from other perspectives. These same powers constantly use excuses like “for the greater good” and “seeing the bigger picture.” But where was the greater good when the Cosmic Throne was sundered? It was cosmic forces, supposedly acting for the greater good, that did it based on their own individual needs and wants. And it was those needs and wants that created the ramifications Jason has been dealing with and fixing since day one. And how has that been received? With suspicion, constant betrayal, reprimands, anger, envy, and loooong speeches about what he should do, how he should think, and why his perspective is supposedly flawed. Jason is in the right here, in my opinion, and these powers should take the perspective of the Hegemon far more seriously. Raythe and Velius did him no favours here; he would have reached diamond anyway. Can Jason be petulant and petty? Heck yes. But that’s what happens when people refuse to listen to what he’s saying while constantly expecting him to listen to them.

Martin Tomsic

It's a common trait in humans, though I don't know if it's universal. People often see their own characteristics in others. I've heard it explained that it is a way to assuage one's guilt, to a degree. Cheaters often assumes that their partners are also cheating on them. People that commit petty theft (stealing a candy bar) think, "everyone does it." And as you pointed out, greedy and lazy people often seeing and magnifying the trait in others around them. This also goes towards good traits as well. Innocent and naive people are often taken advantage of because they trust or see the good in other people, even as they're being swindled. People with natural talents for things don't often realize how much better they are at a certain thing than others and down play how talented they are, or mistakenly assume others are capable of things that they take for granted.

Martin Tomsic

I forgot until I reached the point in Book 6 earlier today, but Jason is "intrinsically linked" to the bridge between Earth and Pallimustus. Now that he is fully transcendent, how much control does he have over the bridge? Would he now be able to "catch" Knowledge while she is crossing from one planet to the other and is temporarily untethered? Perhaps he installs a Looney Tunes style of detour in the bridge that sends her to a fake Earth in his own universe rather than letting her actually travel to the real Earth.

Martin Tomsic

From the POV of Jason did a terrible job of explaining his perspective and reason for his anger, I 100% agree with you. He has been around the GABs and their vessels long enough to know how they view the Cosmos and should know better how to explain why they screwed up with the way they handled him. By this point of the series he should have been able to lay out that caring for "the greater good" of the Cosmos and caring about a handful of people on a planet are not necessarily oppositional views. In some ways focusing on the little things helps to keep the bigger things running smoothly, otherwise you end up in the situation that they are literally dealing with currently, in a god trying to break the rules of the Cosmos and go beyond their station. A small cut that is left untreated can fester into an infection that may lead to catastrophic problems for the whole body.

Paul Birchenough

Not sure you've thought that one out bloke. You're saying that anything that is not the perfect representation of 'good' is by definition 'not good'? Mundanity wants to have a word with you.

Paul Birchenough

Nah, I don't lnow if Short planned it from the beginning, but Jason isn't going to be the God of Earth. He's going to be the God of everything. Heck, he already is at this point. What I'm desperate to find out is how Shirt writes the book after Jason has to sit on the Throne and put everything to rights. Will he abdicate? Will he become a Tyrant? Will Team Biscuit kill him to remove Jason Tyranos from Thebes (or should it be Athens? Just going to point out that Medea is a comedy. Tragedy is where the protag gets punished for their flaws, a comedy is where the proteg gets what they want and everybody else suffers) Gods are small fry, even IRL, it's priests and worshippers and heretics that hold real divine power.

Paul Birchenough

Inverse Ship of Theseus. The dinghy that was the H.M.S. Jason when he arrived on Pallimustus has had the keel, hull, mast etc. of the Ship of Thesues bolted onto him. He is in all respects now, the Ship of Theseus. He's the ultimate power in the universe, god the father, the demiurge, the big cheese, the head honcho. What is fun in this story is that yeah, the H.M.S. Jason no longer exists, but the helmsman is still the same guy. The boat goes in the direction the helmsman points it in. Even if its into the the rocks because the alternative is worse.

Crow Says Caw

What did the person say? Their comment is gone it seems

J Holmes

I thought Raythe was a voice or whatever, similar to what Dawn is. Not the GAB, just the person the GAB uses for a mortal (ish) perspective.

Darth Bob

Ok I’ve been quite but 12 books to get to Silver?????? Just 2 to get to 💎 smh

StarkRG

Simple in the sense that it's not complex not in the sense that it's easy.

Ligeia

Yup, Lurch, as they called him. A fitting name. 😆 Yard indeed!

Youkai-sama

I meant that good is already at the top, and there's nothing you can add to it to make it "better". Trying only ruins it, and claiming otherwise is a lie. And your mundanity requires bloody settling. 😝

Steve Parks

HIIIIII SHIRT!!!!! - boxers with hearts on them crew

Kyle Hunter

Speaking truth when its needed most.

socialleech

I think an interesting thought is what if she actually is the big bad (or her GAB is)? There's a lot we don't know about Raythe, with 2 exceptions: (1) She is old, really old. (2) She can see, and possibly travel, through time. Jason's comment about her possibly knowing how long the afterlife was corrupted tells us that she could have been around before The Sundering. If I'm remembering correctly, the GAB for time didn't participate in The Sundering or the restoration of the throne. But that also doesn't mean that it didn't actually have a hand in it either. If Raythe has been around since before The Sundering, then her ability to manipulate events goes back an incredibly far amount. How much of the current situation was engineered? Did she and her GAB manipulate the other GABs into sundering the throne? Was there a master plan there that ultimately lead to the restoration? Could all of this greater good talk really be billions of years in the making by Raythe/her GAB? I could see an entity that governs time taking an extremely long position on it. Like engineering The Sundering with foreknowledge that: * The original Builder would create twin universes. * Those twin universes would play a huge role in ultimately restoring the throne * A god on one of those worlds would kick off events (maybe with a nudge or two) * That god and the other GABs would do things on their own to bring a man across dimensions that could/would ultimately restore the throne I don't know if the plot/conspiracy goes so deep. With what we know it could. She may not be the bad guy here, but that also is just a matter of perspective.

Betsy R

Ok…hear me out…what if the play is for Jason to eventually suck the earth into his astral kingdom after he baits knowledge into thinking she has won and takes up the goddess of earth position then once she is in his kingdom he just poofs her out of existence? The bridge between worlds is already linked to him personally so connecting one planet inside his kingdom to one outside isn’t so big an issue perhaps? He would be sacrificing his desire to not be an actual god which we know he never wanted anyways but that he totally is all the same and he’d have to finally acknowledge that officially to everyone else as well…just some random thoughts….

Sean

I love that Knowledge knew Jason would manage to find unlikely allies but likely dramatically underestimated how fast. What are the odds that some of his Valhalla buddies that choose reincarnation become Diamond rank before Jason returns?

Kristy Riedel

Is anyone else listening to book 13 today? Isn't ice cube supposed to be the US president? Heath has made him sound Texan.

phil

i mean technically it was 4 to get to diamond he hit gold in book 11, so 11, 12, 13, 14

phil

she did not help him she helped like 10x less than dawn and at least she had a pretty good reason to not help with all the pacts in stuff, the time wizard and Raythe herself don't enter agreements often if ever and Jason did as she ask but she didn't follow though on her end. She might have helped in the letter but not the spirt and that's the point you know this man his character is always about the spirt of the agreement and not the letter. Raythe is like a stingie megacorporation nickel and diming Jason like if a McDonalds coupon said "free large fry" Raythe would hand him an extra long fry singular. You already know he's never gonna listen to her or the time wizard again, she knew what he meant and purposefully mislead him that's just a dick move.

Martin Tomsic

Ice Cube was only the VP, not president.

Martin Tomsic

I'm guessing zero chance. It took the Builder 16 years to reach Diamond and he started at Silver in an adults body. They are starting from scratch, which I'm interpreting to mean that they are starting from birth, not just getting bodies to start where they are right now.

Darth Bob

Thanks for the correction Point remains the same

Kristy Riedel

What the heck is up with Emi's Shade scooter talking in a squeaky voice? Very odd

Logan Williams

Soooo what if Jason completely destroyed then remade the earth? Like made a copy in his astral kingdom which has the added benefit of keeping the earth alive for eternity? It is the one way Jason knows to kill a God after all🤔 Alternatively what if he brought the whole earth into his astral kingdom and do some soul mumbo jumbo to get rid of her?

Jamie

I hope you’re right.

Jonathan Kiviniemi

I really hope we get 5+ more books. There's so much I want to see fleshed out in the story!

Dion Stratford

They aren't being reincarnated. They are being resurrected. They will come back as they were when they died. While there are a tonne of Gold Rankers, there will also be Diamond Rankers. When he says start over from scratch he doesn't mean "start from Iron Rank again". He means that they need to build a new life, new friends, new home (universe probably), new path even.

phil

i think he said book 15 is the when the story will end

Malnayil

Letting someone nake choices on half truths and curated information is not letting jason make his own decisions... it is activly manipulating his choice so that he makes the one they want him to....

DarkLilElf

How far do you think he would go if Shade's previous summoner were to tell Jason that it was Shade's soul that was the material he used? Do you think she would stop him or back him up?

Jamie

When you consider the level of manipulation the GABs used to guide Jason to these specific decisions, I see why he feels grossly betrayed. Yes, they helped him get to diamond quite quickly by using the corrupted afterlife as a crucible. However, the one person who can see multiple timelines is sent to push each of those decisions. She saw the precise times she should show up, the precise words to say, at the precise moment that Jason would be best manipulated to make the choice they needed for their own ends. For the greater good, yes. By disregarding what’s precious to Jason and makes him who he is. Rather than being the System GAB or the Adventurer GAB, he’s more like the Pawn GAB.

socialleech

@martin The idea of Raythe being the GAB everyone thinks is who she is the prime vessel of is something I've been wondering about as well. Add the connection of avatar creation training and it raises some questions/ideas. Who do we know can create avatars? Astral Kings, Dawn, and Velius. Astral kings seem to have it inherently, and maybe specifically prime avatars, but we've generally not heard of other diamond rankers that can create avatars. Just those 2. How can they do this? Is it some inherent ability that one can learn at high diamond? Or maybe must learn to actually get to that level? I am leaning more towards the idea that it must be some skill or essence ability that they have that allows them to do it. Otherwise I think we'd have heard of more non-astral kings with avatar abilities. But it being a requirement to advance would make sense and we have just mostly seen/heard from diamonds in a backwater. Anyway, I'm getting a little off track. What if Raythe was/is an original and Jason really isn't unique with the builder as being former mortals that became a GAB nor is he unique as an astral king becoming a GAB? If she is the GAB and used to be mortal (or, something akin to it), what does that mean for the other GABs? We don't know if GABs are akin to Gods where they come into existence with enough magic and, I'm assuming, some religion that brings them into being? Maybe GABs are created in similar manners as Jason. That rule or piece of the cosmos needs to be seized by someone with the power. Which opens a whole category of questions about the true lore of the origins of the cosmos, how the GABs came to be, and maybe even about Authority and how that came to be and what it really is.

ThrokFellhammer

Random chapter for this comment and question, but is Jason's GAB nature The System or The Hegemon? Dawn is trying to start his cult but as the cult of The System, yet the system calls him The Hegemon when hes not restricted. Maybe im just a bit dense but I really can't tell which is him vs what he does if that makes sense

joker ledger

Raythe betrayed his trust. They disregard his feelings on the matter constantly, banking on his sense of responsibility to fix their mess and ignore everything he got to sacrifice. Raythe even told straight to his face those things he value don't matter, lie and gaslight him constantly through this whole mess. These guys never tried to see things from Jason perspective, they understand but not sympathize, and their understanding only go as far as how much they can exploit him, so expecting him to see things from their perspective is a little rich considering he never got the same courtesy, in fact, they dont even care if he survive the ordeals they put him through.

joker ledger

No, she promised she would help find him and implied she would get him out, but then proceed to renegade on the deal. Raythe said as much, she knew where Jason would be thrown into but conveniently didn't mention any of the stupid rules that would prevent her from acting, and like Jason said, those rules conveniently goes out the window the moment something she doesn't like happen. She could have explained all of these from the beginning but only wait until Jason is in no position to act against her or outside of her control. He even promised to not mess with time travel. She put her needs first just like all the GAB and gods that have been using him and renegade on the deal when it convenient, just like WP and Reaper.

3z3ki3l

I think he is currently the GAB of The System, and is becoming the GAB of The Hegemon. He’s said he’d like to expand The System to everyone, not just potential essence users. I suspect he’ll have to sit on the Throne again, and will do so then. His job then as The Hegemon, I’d assume, would be to plug the loopholes the GABs have used to circumvent the Throne. He’d serve under the Throne, essentially providing the Will that it inherently lacks.

3z3ki3l

Did he just leave Thadwick, the Messenger-killer, with the Messenger killing sword, on a prison planet full of Messangers?

ThrokFellhammer

Think it might be something like he's The Hegemon and the first thing he decided to do was share The System? I mean while the other main GAB have names similar to their roles they all aren't. Like what the hell is the role of Legion? And The Celestial Book seems more focused on knowledge than magic by name. Plus World Phoenix seems more about restoring dead worlds than dimensional boundaries. I dunno maybe its just my ADHD kicking in lol