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Patreon Security Poll (Patreon)

Published:
2022-09-13 09:22:17
Imported:
2026-06

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Hello Patrons. I am aware of Patreon's recent dismissal of their 5 member security team. Some patrons have expressed discomfort at this recent turn of events. I am currently investigating why Patreon made this decision, as well as the viability of other platforms. Please don't panic. Patreon has my personal information as well as yours, and I see no concern for alarm at this time. But the situation has caught my attention.

In the meantime, I'd like to know your thoughts on this topic. How concerned are you about Patreon security?

Comments

Bryan Stephens

My concern is they are entering a death spiral. Which is nuts. They have a secure business modl3. How can they have money issues?

Daniel Gray Webb

It's sad that this has become so common place. I am going to guess that info was sold or not protected. I am also going to guess that Patreon will cover anyone who has issues too, but it's still crappy if that's the case. I will see what the issue is and then make my decision. I know one of the people I support uses Locals as their support program, seems to work pretty good.

PrimaFacie
>>91536728

I also recommend Locals plus its a good back up for YT if there are any snags there.

Dylan Small

I’d also look into, if you have the money, having a web developer basically make you your own Patreon for a website you own. Basically cut out the middleman and increase the amount of the money you see.

Brady

Patreon has shown they'll do nasty stuff and steal creators money. I'm only on here to support the Prof. Maybe check subscribestar?

MrGunn

I am very concerned by this move, the company's lack of transparent communication as to why and how they intend to ensure their network remains secure going forward is very concerning. However, I only support 1 creator on Patreon, that is you Professor, so I am taking a wait and see approach. However, it would be in your best interests to have a back up plan.

MrGunn
>>91538856

Yeah, PDM would need lot's of help, he has a day job, and as he stated he is 'techno challenged'

Andrew Johnson

Parallel Economy or subscribe star far less shady options I am onlyon here fr you

Cal Pearson

Everybody has your data! It is shared / lost / stolen-or- has been already. Evidenced by the continuous stream of breach notifications. Best you can do is be choosy, Hop you credit cards routinely (request number changes). Monitor, Monitor, Monitor. This is the price of modern digital life. I'm an IT/MIS director of 30yrs. If you don't HAVE to do something digitally then DON'T.

Jay

PDM, here are some other platforms many creators are using in addition to YouTube and Patreon. I’m only familiar with a few of them but not all. So, they might be worth looking into. Anyway, hope this helps. Locals.com, Substack, Subscribe Star, Bitchute, Odysee, Minds, Twitter, Gab, and Gettr. Having a voice on multiple platforms might be in your best interest as there seems to be a trend lately in others duplicating their work or outright migrating to alternative or newer tech platforms for various reasons. Just my two cents.

Callias

We don’t know — and probably never will — the whole story from either side, but let’s assume everyone is publicly saying things in good faith. And so while I am concerned, what I don’t know is the actual impact this will have in tangible effects (will this be the elimination of a security project planned for other business plans that’ve now been shelved, have they decided to outsource security to a third party, etc.). Time will tell and this is probably something to keep an eye on but not take a sudden knee-jerk response; wait three months, see what comes out, and so on. This has garnered international scrutiny so more will emerge to give us a better idea which way to go (IMHO).

Jim Van Cura

Right now, no harm no foul. However, a security breach of usernames and passwords is one thing. Recognizing that Patreon is a pay for play platform, there is a lot of credit card information to be had when the Russian Internet Research Agency hacks it.

Timon

this is my very personal and subjective opinion: i am working as a infrastructure guy since two decades. only for top 5 companies. security is just a fig leaf. they just throw some antivirus and some nextgen firewalls onto a pile and hope that will work. even that seems to expensive and now security is being outsourced. when the data breach is happening, they all maunder something of high criminal energy or represent the breach as something like a natural desaster. firing the complete security team and state that their methods imply security on their own is pathetic. this looks like profit maximisation, nothing else.

JoePest

Only here for you

Daniel Defazio
>>91545825

Thanks. I would be migrating. I can't create any new content. There are not enough hours in the day.

Andrew Johnson
>>91542093

No problem love your content, you have been a big influence on me as a DM. Thanks so much.

Chuck Thorin

At first, I wasn't that concerned but from what I've seen of Patreon's response seems to be "Yeah, trust us." That doesn't give me warm fuzzys when a business says things like that. As far as alternate platforms. Confession time. Yeah, I blog and I have a creator account here on Patreon. Over the years, I've had a few but nothing really stuck. It's still there but I tell folks up front that it's just a revolving tip jar. I've recently joined up on Locals.com and personally I like it better. It's free to join up for community members too. Creators can have paying tiers just like Patreon. Creators can post PDF's, MP3/Podcasts, video files and even have an AMA text chat with followers. Creators can live stream within Locals. The catch is the amount of bandwidth that you get depends on the size of the community. Payment processing is handled via Stripe. While we're talking about alternatives. Odysee may be a good backup for Youtube. If you have a enough followers you can set up an auto synch. It looks like Ben "Questing Beast" has that set up.

Declan Riordan

I literally joined Patreon just to support your channel; it's the only thing I am a patron for. I attached a credit card to it and I don't know about Patreon, but I have full confidence in Capitol One (LOL)

Saltheart

Somewhat Concerned... just now reading / watching vids on this whole thing. Didn't know much of the "underbelly" of Patreon in the past few years... I will follow you where ever you go... or will stay as long as it appears "safe" to do so. ---- Where you go... I will follow! ---- You are a River Unto Your People! (glorious reference to Matt Colville vids!) :-)

knghtbrd

Admittedly, I haven't heard anything about this and have no idea what the deal is. When I tried to search for it, I found two groups of people making a lot of noise about this: 1. People who make their living rage-baiting people over people they're saying are just rage-baiting over "wokeness" and "cancel culture". 2. Folks whose other content suggests they don't respond well to opinions different from their own. Those and something like about UFOs or something? *shrug* That might be unrelated. I hope. As always, I'll reserve the option to reassess when/if I find more information from slightly less hyperbolic and incendiary sources, but I'm leaning toward _massively_ overblown. It's a recession. Several people I know are facing layoffs right now.

knghtbrd
>>91545710

It kinda doesn't sound like this "security team" dealt with protecting user credentials so much as ensuring that the wrong sort of people weren't using Patreon. Unclear on this point though—I'd be a lot more concerned if they're the people making sure user credentials and data aren't posted on billboards and the like.

Agile Monk

I have concerns as part of my professional career is that of a chief security officer. And I know how challenging issues like this can be. To remove their security team the. How are they protecting their systems and customer PII data. And credit card data.

MrGunn
>>91545710

Yes everyone has your data, but you expect them to at least make a cursory effort to protect said data. Sure, there are determined thieves but there is no reason to make it easy and leave your doors and windows unlocked.