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Eeekko

Oh howard.... this isn't looking good.

Rain

Why must you hurt me first thing in the morning D: no divorce arc please god no. NO. NOOOOOOOOOOO!

Jovee Winters

Valid question, even I'm confused why he didn't answer 🥺

AL

Howie shaking in the 5th panel UGH IM NOT READY IM NOT READY

Stephanie Stewart

I'm kinda glad they're talking now, cause at least that concern can be cleared up before Howie sobers up. Boundaries going forward should wait until he's sober, though

Misa

I CALLED IT ON THE HIGH CARD CONFUSING AND FRUSTRATING SOOCHY

oldmanbecca

OH, I forgot about that 😭 no wonder Casey is unsure

SharkBoyKade

Howard, can I call you Howard..? You better get your shit together and quickly...

Unknown2.0

Our hearts poor babies 🥺🥺😭 I knew it it’s all the fishy guys fault

Giovanni

Liam hung up Howie’s phone

Kaylynn Bousman

I thought the authors note was a comment Bittie and I was about to reply with YES EXACTLY THATS WHY MY BABY IS SCARED

Leeeeish

This made me laugh so bad 😂

Noel

The caption D: omg this is killing me

Kaylynn Bousman

These dark times are when I wish this was swapped with my IDCC updates 😭 I need my wholesome boys to make me feel better after you squeeze my heart threateningly

JoastyJoe

Ohh my god Howie starting to shake I’m gonna cryyyy 💔 Bittie w the steel chair…

Daisy

HOWIEEE 😭😭 I can’t watch he’s so stressed

Lily

THE CLIFFHANGERS, THE SUFFERING, THE YET ANOTHER WEEK OF WAIT AHHHHHHHH

Sea

Scariest Halloween of all time 😬

Katerin

The 2nd time. Howie ignored it the first time 😖

Hunne

OMG Howie WAS high when he first kissed Casey — ooohhh my Shaaayla 😭He’s starting to sweat and shake and everythiiing 😭

CactusMan

oof if i were howie i maybe would feel kind of betrayed by sooch’s assumption. it did look bad in that room but when has he ever broken sooch’s trust.

Teri Hano

😭😭😭 I GOTTA PUT THIS DOWN FOR THREE WEEKS I CAAAAANT

Nadsnator

Scaring me on Halloween CONGRATS 😭

Matthew

…i would like a refund on my feelings, pls

Amtonril

I have faith in their communication. They've always been good with that. I have faith. Now Liam on the other hand... Come outside and let's "talk" 🤺🤺🤺

Gogo

When else did he call? I skimmed back thru the party pages and i only see the one

Daisy

I CANTTT 😭😭😭😭 you’re telling me that second panel where Howie cuts himself off and they just stare at each other is because they BOTH know it’s not true that Howie would NEVER do such thing when he’s high because Sooch knows their first kiss was pretty much the same circumstance and Howie didn’t even remember their first kiss??? IS THAT WHAT YOU’RE TELLING ME PLS STOP IM ALREADY CRYING

JoastyJoe

LITERALLYYY they’re all “happy happy tra la la!!” after their divorce arc ended meanwhile over here we’re in the TRENCHES. For every fluff there must be an equal and opposite angst….

Bez

Howie feels high every time he kisses Sooch.

Kaylynn Bousman

😭 sad but true or the fluff wouldn’t hit as hard

alimac

I think Sooch’s assumption is completely fair considering he doesn’t know what happened in the room the same way we do as the audience. All he knows is that he walked in on his boyfriend – who’s crossfaded – kissing someone else after ignoring his call.

Charlie

He only called once, Liam hung up before kissing him. I looked back too and hes been watching the time/waiting for a message which i think makes people think hes been calling?

Teri Hano

😭😭 Gotta call em that in these times

Ace_Otaku

Liam hung up not Howie. On the post two or three weeks ago.

alimac

I’m absolutely gobbling up this angsty arc! I need more 🤤 hurt me, I like it 😂

thedistortedeye

Seriously? When ao3 is down and all?? Just shoot me, why don’t ya?

Am

I actually understand Howie here - he needs to clear things up right now! Tell him your bitchass friend declined the call!! Rahhhh!!!!

♡ShutUp☆I'mReadingBL♡

Howie, you need to let this one go for the night, fam; you're just digging the hole deeper. Bc the next thing he's going to say is "I didn't ignore the call, Liam did" and then Casey's gonna say, "and why tf was he sitting so close to you that he could see me calling and bang on me?" And Howie is going to have to admit that he didn't even *think* about if it was appropriate to be sitting that close to someone who wasn't his bf bc he knows he would never be unfaithful, and he trusted Liam (why, I have no idea 🙄). I've rapidly gone from feeling like Howie is a victim in all this, to feeling like this is a situation of his own creation. Not all bad behavior should be ignored/forgiven, especially when everyone else in your friends group *AND* your partner have said they don't like/trust the person exhibiting the behavior

LV

🥺

alimac

I can imagine how panicked Howie feels right now as well. It was only a few days ago that he was telling Ben and Steph how scared he is to do anything to scare Sooch off or jeopardise them, and now this huge thing has happened that’s going to have repercussions on their relationship regardless of the circumstances surrounding it. Poor guy is going to be spiraling.

Sarah B

Omg I forgot that howie was high when he and sooch kissed the first time

steph.24

Everyone’s fear over this conversation is so real but I’m so scared that once Liam sees how bad this affected sooch he’s gonna throw it in his face and leave him more unsure like pls he’s gonna try and drive them apart 😭

divinetrouxa

I wanna A CONVERSATION i want this thing CLEARD UP TOMORROW

Clarissa R.

I said it. I knew as soon as the call was ignored, Sooch would think that's why. Ugh. Howie, I told you to take your *ss home! 😒 This is why I stay in the house. 🙎🏾‍♀️ Side note: I also totally forgot about Howie being high when he first kissed Sooch. Now it's also going to look like a pattern, like with certain people who get drunk that just starts kissing people. 😬

jello

empaths, how we doing?

divinetrouxa

LIAM!!! LIAM WHEN I CATCH YOU, LIAM!!!! LIAM WHEN I CATCH YOU!!!!!!!

Mar

How could you ever think that ? Umm maybe cause he just saw some other dude lips on you HOWIE 😭😭

jello

why would you say this😩 my chest omfg

Clarissa R.

I know they say never go to bed angry, but Howie needs to chill and for real get his wits about him. He is going to end up saying something he doesn't mean and make it worse. He knows Sooch well enough to give his the space to just collect his thoughts as well. Also, I wouldn't want to have that conversation with him on a substance either. Side note: If I was Sooch, I wish Liam would ever have the thought to give me a side eye glance again. I would sock the sh*t out of him. That's why you were all aggy? You wanted my man? That raggedy POS. 🙎🏾‍♀️

Sleeepy

It is so hard to watch... Sooch is so vunerable right now, in new situation for him, romanticaly and emotionaly, with new drugs which also mess people up more that they should. He feels insecure and Howie doesn`t seem to understand yet. However I know they compatibility is very good and they know how to comunicate, I have hope this will sort itself out.

janelle

right but howie had had a crush on sooch for an extended period of time before that kiss, no?? so that wasn’t a random event.

Breezy

That's not enough we need his middle name thrown in too. Full government smack down

divinetrouxa

Harassing my baby boy Sooch, Assalting my other baby boy Howie, Liam you going down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!¡!

AlexLBJD

I will not survive a breakup arc. Please no. Not with these boys.

ivynova

On the one hand, the ignored call and kiss were 100% Liam. But on the other, the bad decision to go hang out with Liam while knowing he’s not great (even without knowing what he did to Sooch) and then the further bad decision to get high and put himself in a vulnerable position with said Liam are fully on Howie. Gotta take responsibility for that dawg

Samuel

Being high isn't drunk. You have to listen to Howie, Pooch. It's what's going to decide if yall make it 😭

flowerpond

Now it’s a good time to share everything

Shauna Ayers

Wonder when the comparison to Sooch's drunken marriage "contract" incident will come up...

mixhelle

I think, even though this hurts, that it’s a good thing they have this conversation now. This is their first relationship and I think it’s a process to learn to trust, even though they’ve been best friends before. They will drink and they will get high while they’re in a relationship, especially because both of them don’t have a problem with that. Now they have to learn that even when they do they can trust each other. Howie kissed Sooch while being high BECAUSE he‘s been in love with Sooch. He DIDN‘T kiss him because he was high - that‘s a difference 🥺

Ms.Hellsing

Ahhh I see, thank you Bittie for informing us about that. I forgot that happened, I hope they can figure this out. Howie better start explaining 😬

Amanda

This is absolutely a full name situation

Amanda

Bittie’s comment coming in to twist the knife 😬 I understand wanting to talk right away - no one would want to leave that festering overnight - but I feel like having this conversation when Howie is still somewhat not in his right mind is not… the best idea

Cierra da Cruz

Also correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Liam decline the call

justsomeguy

i think Liam is too internally homophobic to see this as a win. like i think the fact that he was seen is gonna have him spiraling too much to truly revel in smugness over it at first. i hope Casey and Howie get on more solid ground before Liam gets it together enough to start being a menace again

steph.24

Oh I agree, I’m hoping they’re on more stable ground before Liam even attempts making a comment but he’s also made comments towards sooch while liking Howie so I don’t put anything past him

Kris

“My reflexes were slow because I was smoking. Liam pushed to phone down before I could answer. Then he kissed me. I’m so confused and then I was assaulted. I love you so much. I know what it looks like and I’m so sorry this is upsetting and hurtful. But I’ve loved you for so long and you know that. I’m happy to never talk to Liam again if that would bring you comfort. I’m also happy to go back and punch him. Literally whatever you want because again I don’t care about Liam I care about you.”

Kris

For real tho - I’m so proud of Howie for wanting to clear this up now. Letting anything fester can make things worse. Also I want them to talk it through for me and my heart 😂

Pheobe Jackson

I think if they can clear up that Howie didn't cheat on him, they can figure out the rest in the morning and Sooch can let him know everything that's been going on with Liam then. I think if he reveals that info to Howie tonight, he's getting arrested

Ira Iscandari

Wait, so Sooch thinks Howie likes Liam?? Huhhh?? Or is Sooch finding it difficult to make sense of things bcs Howie's high? Or both??

justsomeguy

damn not the emotional horror scene for halloween. you did your big one this time Bittie 😭😭 Also, as a person who has been high before I’d like to advocate for Howie. He was crossed (drunk AND high) the first time when he and Casey kissed if I recall correctly. ie he was more sloshed and more likely to act on impulse. His impulse to kiss Casey was because he liked Casey! This circumstance is kind of completely different. He is just high and also very tired. This doesn’t necessarily make him impulsive- it actually would make him slow to react and respond. Which is why he took so long to see Casey’s phone call and why he didn’t push Liam away immediately. It doesn’t necessarily mean he is unable to have this conversation right now. When Sooch came in his high was probably blown straight out of the water lol. BUT that doesn’t mean Casey is ready to have the convo now. With that being said, if your partner smokes or drinks or you do and have a partner, these types of conflicts are opportunities to discuss boundaries and underlying concerns with each other. Howie did invite Sooch so he wasn’t trying to hide anything and was not trying to prioritize Liam. I really don't think he understands Casey’s level of concern regarding Liam specifically (which makes sense since Sooch did not elaborate on it, and I don’t think he wanted to for fear of the drama/conflict of asking a new romantic partner to stop being friends with someone). It would take a major event for Casey to open up and be honest about his true issues with Liam, and unfortunately this is the major event. So this is all for the best imo since there wasn’t any malicious intent going on, it just created a situation that will drive the communication that they were lacking before

justsomeguy

I’d like to clarify that Casey being hurt right now and confused/sad about how he found Howie makes complete sense and my analysis doesn’t involve a complete surrender of responsibility for Howie like he def needs to take responsibility for how his choices led to a situation that hurt Casey. i just feel like theres a nuance to the situation that was worth mentioning. being in a relationship with someone you love who also love you and doesnt want to hurt you does NOT mean you wont still get your feelings hurt. people are people. conflict and misunderstandings happen. it just means you have a chance to learn communication and vulnerability, to choose to hold space for each other’s feelings, fears, and truths and to confront it all together.

Misa

Chapter 2 for the first too high don't remember kiss

Kris

I agree with everything here so hard. It’s super fair for Casey to be freaking out right now and this would be so upsetting to see. But it would be nice if they could get to a point where they both clearly know Howie was assaulted not cheating. It’s one thing to be so high you act on impulse when you’re single and kissing a boy you like. It’s another to cheat just because you’re high. I think if Howie could alter the sentence and instead of “I’d never kiss anyone high” instead be “just because I’m high I wouldn’t cheat”. It’s clear he’s not cheating sober - he spends all his time with Casey and is so supportive. Up until now Howie has never proven himself to be dishonest or unwavering in his love. Deep down Casey has to know that. I also doubt Howie understood how much of a problem Liam was until now. So hopefully they get into it enough where Casey opens up and shares the information and it clicks for Howie and they talk about it. OR if the people want some drama then he marches over and goes off on Liam in a fictional story hero kinda way haha.

Luna_Lena

Thank fuck they're actually talking, though. This could be soooo much worse.

DDonovan

For the amount of pot Sooch has smoked, he’s cutting Howie no slack. Come on man! Howie is so in love with you and has been so patient and wonderful with you, you need to give him the benefit of the doubt! You know Liam is a weasel!

Adanka

Sustos para halloween, muchas gracias💔

Vivia

Oh god, Howie is shaking too, pls I feel so bad for both of them dkdkdd

Mm-ft

Never thought I would see Sooch feeling so insecure about Howie's love. I know he doesn't understand why this "friendship" with Liam exists (and honestly, us'all either), but he must know what he means to Howie, and how these two situations have nothing in common, right ? Ugh, I want the assaultness of what Liam did to be talked about rn !

Jovee Winters

Ohhh! I forgot about that, you're right!

Kingsley

Stawwwwwp 😭😂😭😂

underwraps

conflict after conflict after conflict 😫😫😫😫😫😫

Jade

Homie plz reel it in GET IT TOGETHER BABES 😭😭😭😭🥀🥀🥀🥀 MY HEART

Mari

i think it’s more so that sooch doesn’t know WHAT to think, on the one hand he knows rationally that cheating isn’t in howie’s character. and on the other hand sooch is seeing that 1. his phone call to howie was declined/rejected , 2. he walked in on a kiss that was actively happening between his boyfriend and his friend, and 3. howie was/is under the influence, which increases the likelihood of any “cheating” happening if only by accident.

Ira Iscandari

Okayyyy that definitely makes sense. Sooch's got all sorts of conflicting info and it seems like he'd rather speak through it when hes ready and when Howie's sober, he cant make sense of the situation just yet. Its a shame tho since Howie seems super anxious and probably wont sleep/wont feel relaxed until they talk it out now. Its gonna be tense 🥲🥲 Good luck to them!

Shrimp

OK, yeah, Howie kissed Casey for the first time when he was high. HOWEVER, Casey was the person who Howie always wanted to be with. He loved him even then, so of course when he’s high and relaxed the only thing he wanted to do was kiss Casey. Now he’s ACTUALLY WITH HIM, so why would he ever even think (even high) about kissing anyone that WASNT Casey?? Unfortunately… he’s too high to explain this 😀 (This is my train of thought to help me not cry about this, excuse the rant)

ChessMixxd

SOOCH. SOOCHICUS. SOOCHICUS OCTAVIOUS THE THIRD. Do not tell me that after EVERYTHING you two have been through; after how hard the both of you have worked on your relationship, after how hard Howie FOUGHT FOR YOU, that you GENUINELY think this man would ever cheat on you in any given universe. No. Sooch? No.

J.K. Hogan

I can't handle third act breakups. I hope that's not where we're headed. Someone tag me when the fight is over. 😭

Catherine Gibson

"That would never cause me to..." yeahhhhh cause you were the first time you kissed Sooch BUTTTTTT he'd been attracted to Sooch for a while and was hiding it😭 he love you Sooch

A.R.Walker

Someone said that if you read between the lines, Howie in this scene almost seems to have forgotten not just the first time they kissed, but the second and I don't know if I'll ever forgive them for that 😭

snappyfixture

Me at a party, explaining the comic so I could read this comment to friends because it’s perfect

Kittycat

When was that again, which episode? I don't remember the "incident" that's in the room with them No idea how to word it better 😅

ChessMixxd

Unrelated: I love your icon so freaking much

Zillixe

Is the L word gonna be dropped 🥹

Cameron Miyao

Brother man did it ever occur to you to look at your phone. Like once. Also Liam better go back home, right the ever loving fuck now, or I will commit arson on his house. Rage aside, you know damn well Liam is gonna have a crisis of faith about this and then try to apologize. Or maybe he'll cop out. Idunno. Iduncare. Bro's sleeping with one eye open tonight as I slowcruise outside his house.

ALICE

Oh Howie…… 😖

Nour Bahri

OH NO I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT 😭